The Lass Word: Watson Outperforming First Round Picks

Lotta ball game left, but so far he looks worth the two second rounders.

The Green Bay Packers went into the 2022 NFL draft with a desperate need for receivers.  Fortunately, this particular draft seemed to be deep in quality receiving talent.  After the Davante Adams trade, they were sitting pretty in the first round with picks 22 and 28.  Surely they would be able to land one, if not two, of those quality pass catchers with those selections. 

What the Packers probably didn’t anticipate was an early run on those receivers.  When the Atlanta Falcons used the eighth pick to take Drake London, the rest of the league seemed to panic.  Five of the next nine picks were receivers.  By the time the Packers were on the clock at number 22, the top six wideouts were already gone.  General Manager Brian Gutekunst decided the value at that point was on defense, and used both first rounders to fill needs on that side of the ball. 

When Day Two of the draft opened up, Green Bay again had two picks in the second round, but the first was not until number 53.  Not having addressed the position on Day One, Gutekunst traded both of his second rounders to the Vikings to move up to number 34, where they selected Christian Watson, a small college player who had never had more than 43 receptions in a season.  The move had the look of desperation.  It didn’t help that the North Dakota State rookie missed most of training camp with an ankle injury, and then dealt with concussions early in the regular season.  The knee jerk crowd was already starting to label him a bust. 

We are now thirteen games into the season.  Here’s how those first round draft picks have done so far, compared to Watson.  The touchdown figures represent total scores, rushing and passing: 

Drake London (Falcons)  8th Pick, 13 Games, 4 TD's, 47 Rec., 533 yds

Garrertt Wilson (Jets)  10th Pick, 13 Games, 4 TD's, 63 Rec., 868 yds

Chris Olave (Saints)  11th Pick, 12 Games, 3 TD's, 60 Rec., 887 yds.

Jameson Williams (Lions)  12th Pick, 2 games, 1 TD, 1 Rec., 41 yds.

Jahan Dotson (Commanders) 16th Pick, 8 Games, 5 TD's, 19 Rec., 233 yds.

Treylon Burks (Titans)  18th Pick, 8 Games, 1 TD, 25 Rec., 359 yds.

Christian Watson, 34th Pick, 10 Games, 9 TD's, 25 Rec., 401 yds.

As you can see, in terms of points on the board, which after all is the most important stat, Watson dominates.  He has more than twice as many touchdowns as anybody else.  He ranks fourth in receiving yardage, behind Olave, Wilson and London.  Not bad considering Aaron Rodgers has only begun throwing the ball to him for the past four games.  Wilson and Olave appear to be future stars.  London shows promise but the jury is still out.  Williams has just returned from knee surgery and likely won’t be a meaningful contributor until next year.  Dotson and Burks have both had trouble getting on the field because of injuries. 

Looking at this list, is there anybody on it you would trade Watson for right now?  Wilson and Olave would be tempting, but neither has Watson’s speed.  Williams has the speed, but coming off a serious knee injury, you wonder if he will ever be the same.  Obviously, there’s a lot of football still to be played, but if he can stay healthy and cut back on his tendency for drops, Watson looks to me like a better long term prospect than all of this bunch.  By the way, Watson was also a kick returner in college.  Might be fun to see that speed on display running back kicks for the Packers.  The risk of injury probably makes that prohibitive. 

I was also curious to check out the numbers on Alec Pierce.  The Colts took him with that 53rd pick, the one the Packers would have had if they had kept both of their second rounders.  To date, Pierce has 32 catches for 510 yards and 2 scores in 12 games.  That’s not bad, and I think Pierce is going to be a good player.  So the question is, was Watson worth two second round picks, when Green Bay could have had Pierce and another selection in the round?  Time will tell, but so far the answer would seem to be yes. 

GAME PREDICTION 

I felt pretty good about the Packers beating the injury-riddled Rams on Monday night, until I saw Baker Mayfield rally the team to a dramatic comeback win over the Raiders, despite having practiced only once with the team.  If he can do that on one day’s preparation, what might he do with a week and a half to prepare to play Green Bay’s leaky defense? 

Rams  28  Packers 24 

Standout of the game:  Christian Watson 

Upset special of the week:  Browns over Ravens 

 

                                                             

 

 

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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BradHTX's picture

December 15, 2022 at 03:32 pm

I’ll be the first to admit it: I was a Christian Watson skeptic. To me, he had the feel of Darrius Heyward-Bey 2.0 - blistering speed with poor skills that make a complete player.

I’ve never been happier to be (probably…) wrong.

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DoubleJ's picture

December 15, 2022 at 11:07 pm

Darrius Heyward-Bey went to a bigger school and had far worse overall production than Watson. Watson also wants to work at getting better, where as Heyward-Bey never seemed to want to do the hard work. Not surprising that Watson is looking better at the moment.

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splitpea1's picture

December 15, 2022 at 03:48 pm

We'll have to check back after three seasons to make a more accurate comparison and judgment. Durability is still a concern; if we can keep him on the field, it looks to be a great pick.

The Packers obviously didn't have the opportunity to draft either Wilson or Olave, but they both have impressive catch totals and yardage; and both have caught over 40 first downs (Lazard is our leader with 36), which I think is also a pretty important stat. So right now I'm not ready to declare any of these rookie receivers head and shoulders above the rest.

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BirdDogUni's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:31 pm

How many TDs do Wilson and Olave have?

Well, I'll tell you.

Wilson has 4

Olave has 3

How many does Christian Watson have again? Oh, that's right 7. (On only 25 catches.)

Oh, almost forgot, plus 2 more TDs rushing.

I think Watson will be just fine.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am

Watson is the best WR out of that class, period. I liked Olave and Wilson, no doubt, but they cannot bring the vertical game like Watson or high point the ball on the sidelines. Quite a few of these smaller WRs are getting rag-dolled by the safeties/LBs as the Games intensify.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:04 pm

Now it won't be the first time I would be proven wrong but, I don't get the "Packers traded 2 second round picks (#53 & #59) to draft C-Watson".

In my thoughts, the Pack only traded one 2nd Rd pick for the right to move up in the 2nd round to pick #34.

Okay, back to the drawing board and the PACKER SWEEP baby!

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MooPack's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:22 pm

Yeah, people seem to want to mischaracterize that little nugget.

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Heyward's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:02 pm

Right, they traded only one second-round pick. That's still a lot for an unproven rookie from a small school. Watson looks promising, but we're a long way from saying Gutekunst did the right thing on draft night.

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Rarescope's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:11 pm

That “small school” also produced Carson Wentz and Trey Lance. They’re not the crimson tide but they must be doing something right.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:08 pm

Yo Rare, it was cool reading that you and your pops took the Lambeau Tour and sport the same Pack jersey.

That is what I love most about the Pack = those moments shared with family (and friends).

Keep on keepin' on Mr Mister! 👍

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Rarescope's picture

December 15, 2022 at 08:52 pm

Lol the folks just showed up for their reprieve from the North Dakota winters here in balmy Madison. Monday night pops and I were both sporting our Douglas jerseys and Christmas puppy dog pajamas. I swear you can’t make this shit up. The wife thought it was quite entertaining :D

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 09:01 pm

Under her breath, as she is looking at you adoringly, she is muttering..."for better or for worse".

Just like the Pack...love em, for better or for worse. :D

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Rarescope's picture

December 15, 2022 at 08:54 pm

And right back atcha man. Lot of negativity out in Packerland, it’s been nice reading your comments recently. Nice to see some of us are still trying to enjoy the game ;)

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 08:59 pm

Oh, almost forgot...your sister says howdy! :)

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BirdDogUni's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:34 pm

Lol, no we're not...

"Watson looks promising, but we're a long way from saying Gutekunst did the right thing on draft night."

I was happy as a pig in slop when Gutey traded up for him and said so, and I'm not the only one. Ask old Mr. CHTV Aaron if he wasn't happy about it.

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Rarescope's picture

December 16, 2022 at 09:30 am

"I was happy as a pig in slop when Gutey traded up for him and said so, and I'm not the only one."

No doubt. This was the first year that I actually watched any draft coverage. My uncle was driving from Jefferson to the far west side of the Madison area to watch it with me, which is about an hours drive I think. He was still on his way here when I called him to tell him that the Packers were trading up and HOLY SHIT THEY GOT WATSON!!!! Now, the way that the season is playing out it looks like they should have just taken him in the first round, but I'm not ready to write off Wyatt yet either.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 16, 2022 at 11:03 am

Me too. Watson was my #1 WR for the Pack. I received negative comments for my preference for the big, fast, multitalented athlete who was also on the Walter Payton Award list for the best high character player in college football.

I was lectured he was going to be a small school bust who never faced any top competition and was a ball drop machine. He did have drop issues early in college but last year he only dropped 2. Dropping his first NFL pass that would have been a TD and then Rodgers ignoring him and his early injuries made my case more difficult to make.

But I "endeavored to persevere". ("Outlaw Josey Wales")

For the record, my #2 WR for the Pack was Doubs. Can't believe Gutey got both! Christian and Romeo!

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 10:42 am

Here's a thought. If they had chosen Watson with the #22 and not have an ILB, who had less accrued college playing time, ranked higher on their Quija board, then both Two picks would have been there for the taking. Could have added another WR in Alec Pierce or a TE and Lucas to fill the RT spot lending a smoother start to the '22 season.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 10:47 am

Watson was on the radar of any qualified and hopefully, sober NFL regional scout. Watched him take them to the house a couple of times his Freshman year. The playmaking dynamic was there from day one.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

December 16, 2022 at 06:07 pm

Yeah unproven, but he produced even in a school that was run-heavy. He's got the right attitude, the best measureables of just about anyone since Randy Moss and he's just getting started. The fact that he has been that productive after missing parts of training camp and the season bodes really well for his future. He's not on a long learning curve. He'll just continue to get better. I'm all for calling it . . . Gutey did the right thing, just like he did with Rashaan Gary.

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WTFcheesheadChuck's picture

December 17, 2022 at 01:41 am

Not sure which I’m a bigger fan of, your take or your pic but either way good stuff….. God Bless America!

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stockholder's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:30 pm

I was never a skeptic. I wanted him taken before Walker. I was fine with Walker. But Wyatt shocked me. I said Jones would be on the All Rookie team. Before Wyatt. And that Watson was now a Steal. Before Both. Was he worth two picks. Well, it did put all 3 in the top 50.
And Jones was strictly a NT. But I saw him as Clarks equal. Which would let Clark move like Raji.
Truthfully I still liked they got Watson. And taking Wyatt screwed up the draft. But at 53 and 59. Think what Pierce and Jones would have looked like.
Gutey made up for pierce by getting Dobbs. And Rhyan looked solid. But I would have gambled on the ILb from Wi Leo Chanel.
This was Gutey's best draft. But it could have been better.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:44 pm

Who is Jones again? 3rd-round NT Travis Jones of the Ravens?

Rhyan has shown nothing so far. I would have gone Safety in round 3. Kerby Joseph and Nick Cross were 2 pre-draft favorites of mine that we could have gotten at #92 instead of Rhyan

We still don't know if Wyatt is a bust. He is actually one of the highest-graded D-linemen on the Packers. My suspicion is that if his peers are better he will play better. He was great on a stacked Georgia D-line; maybe he needs better peers to unlock his full potential.

If anything, I would have taken LB Devin Lloyd of Utah, now on the Jaguars, instead of Walker. Both have been having up-and-down seasons, though. Dean can't crack the Eagles' starting lineup, even though they aren't that strong at LB. Walker was the right pick, I believe, because of his upside. If we can get him some better coaching next year to help restore his tackling to the elite level it was in college, he will become a perennial all-pro! He has been getting better in coverage as the season goes on.

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stockholder's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:54 pm

Travis Jones - Cinn. Dean was gone. Leo Chanel - Wi

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 15, 2022 at 05:44 pm

Travis Jones plays for the Ravens, and Dean was selected in the 3rd round by the Eagles. Chenal was a 3rd-rounder of the Chiefs. You can look it up and see for yourself.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:52 pm

Ken, I disagree with you on the outcome Monday night and I expect the Packers to win the game.

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Heyward's picture

December 15, 2022 at 05:59 pm

To be fair, most of those rookie WRs are playing with dreadful quarterbacks. Watson's going to have to be a lot better than Pickens and Pierce to justify the very high price paid.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:11 pm

This hasn't been Rodgers' best season, though. He is still better than Pickett and Ryan

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Leatherhead's picture

December 15, 2022 at 08:04 pm

That's how I see it, Heyward. I'm not really a fan of trading up in most cases because I think you can just stay where you are and get a guy just as good.

Early on, one of the posters here mentioned Watson and Pierce as the fast, rangy, physical guy who could get downfield. And then I got to watch Pickens a lot, and I thought we might get a shot at one of these guys at 53. So I'd have probably passed on Watson and ended up with Pickens and Pierce.

Once Upon A Time, people put eggs in a basket and knew that you didn't want to put all your eggs in one basket. Financial advisors are always stressing diversification. So I like the idea of getting more players in the draft because it gives you protection against injury or slow development.

\ Watson and Doubs look to be main guys next year, even if we resign Lazard and/or draft a WR. Cobb and Watkins will depart. Toure and the rest will have the inside track for the remaining spots,

It'll be interesting to compare Watson to Pickens and Pierce over the next four years.

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PhantomII's picture

December 15, 2022 at 09:46 pm

Neither Pickens or Pierce have the potential Watson does. Watson has potential of generational talent. I just hope ML has enough coaching ability to scheme him into favorable circumstances. There are zero GB packers WR's that have impacted their team the way he has already in the last 25 years. Let's just start there as a foundation.
Draft picks are there to get the player you want. Gute did exactly that. We're fortunate to have him because 33 teams made poor decisions before us....including GB 2x. You're gonna eat a lot of Crow as well as others here. GPG

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croatpackfan's picture

December 16, 2022 at 03:06 am

"Once Upon A Time, people put eggs in a basket and knew that you didn't want to put all your eggs in one basket."

Are you talking of ACR contract or what?

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

December 17, 2022 at 11:16 am

Many of us remember passing on both TJ Watt with the Steelers and Derwin James with the Chargers when both were there when we picked. Both of those guys are Pro Bowl players and perhaps the best at their positions in the NFL. I would gladly forego the extra picks and have those two in Packer uniforms. I understand your position that the NFL draft can be a crap shoot and that occasionally you can strike gold on lower level picks, but sometimes those generational talents are there and are quite identifiable like the two mentioned above. I remember being concerned that both Watt and James were going to be picked before the Packers came up and I was excited that we were going to land them only two see our GM...

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PhantomII's picture

December 15, 2022 at 09:08 pm

LOL...The price paid...Really. He was a #1 WR in the 2nd round and has already surpassed the price paid for both our #1 Picks. He's nearly rookie of the year already and unless he gets hurt..he will be. Look at our teams #1 picks on defense and tell me Watson is not undervalued already. It's okay, you're not a believer but you don't know how to judge talent cause this kid is oozing game changing ability before our very eyes. Take off the blinders. He's a Star in the making. He's gonna have 4 score games when they figure out how to get the ball to him consistently in a multitude of different ways. GPG

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 10:56 am

You are talking to people who were waiting with clutched pearls for Geronimo Allison to make the cut a couple of weeks ago during a tryout camp. Some still stuck in time capsules from the bronze age.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

December 16, 2022 at 06:22 pm

They went up and got a guy that they really liked and even more, that they really needed. I think that doesn't have to be justified. Scouts are not perfect. Watson has already shown us why they wanted to go after him. As for the others, Pickens has already been seen screaming "throw me the effing ball" on the sidelines. We don't need that in GB. Watson is both taller and faster than Pickens and yes, there were questions about his maturity prior to the draft. Watson is also taller and faster than Pierce. But it will be fun to see how the 3 of them, plus Olave, Williams, etc do over the course of their careers. But I sure can't fault Gutey for taking Watson with an extra pick after the big run on receivers in the first round. He may just end up outperforming all of them.

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PackfanNY's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:09 pm

Thanks for the article Ken. I always find your work to be objective and honest.

I will disagree on the outcome. The Rams have as many problems as our Pack. Given the weather this is going to be a “who wants it more game”. The Packers are home. Jones and Dillon grind it out. Watson makes a difference on a couple of end around runs. Packers 24-21.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:11 pm

If it is truly a "who wants it more game," I'd have to think the Rams would win if the rest of this season has told me anything.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 16, 2022 at 01:40 pm

Oof! You make a realistic and fair point. Hopefully the Pack comes out of the bye screaming with their hair on fire. Clearly this is their most winnable game of the rest of the season.

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jont's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:32 pm

What is it, eight TDs in the past four games?

Jalen Ramsey might be over-rated, or at leat hitting a rough patch, but I've got to believe the Rams see Watson as the #1 threat and will be looking to smother him this week. It'll be interestinng to watch the young receiver work now that he's not a secret anymore.

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PatrickGB's picture

December 15, 2022 at 06:49 pm

I guess that means more balls thrown Doub’s way.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:10 pm

Like that commercial many moons ago: "a little doubs will do ya......" [Brylcream ?]

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 16, 2022 at 11:14 am

Rams can't double cover both Christian and Romeo. If they do, Lazard, Jones and even Cobb will make them pay.

I think Doubs will have a big game on Monday. Watson has the speed to take the top off, and Doubs' route tree is going to benefit him in the middle of the field.

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MainePackFan's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:01 pm

The ultimate question is are the Pack better with Watson and Doubs then they would be with Pickens and Pierce? Only time answers those questions, but at end of the day the argument can be made either way.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 16, 2022 at 01:45 pm

Ya don't get the benefit of all that on draft day. Pack was looking at Watson for round 1. Getting him in round 2 was a good pick, but rookies are always a risk. They threw away Amari Rogers after the trade deadline and got NO value for him, an expensive mistake they simply can't afford. And they seem to be throwing away Sammy Watkins, who's reception % and yards per reception equal Lazard's (slightly better, even)

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MainePackFan's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:51 pm

You may be misunderstanding me. I am, and was, extremely happy with drafting Watson and Doubs. The two receivers I was hoping the Pack would end up with were Watson and Pierce. but I was thrilled to get Doubs in the 4th.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 15, 2022 at 07:19 pm

Yep, happy we have #9. I hope he can maintain his upward trajectory (not forever, but for a while provided he has good health, work habits and attitude).

What if he was drafted by Buffalo? About as fitting as Luck playing for the Colts and their horseshoe emblem.

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PhantomII's picture

December 15, 2022 at 08:48 pm

Christian Watson is only going to get better.....If ML can scheme enough places for him to exploit on the field. He is a Weapon, much like A. Jones. We just need different ways to unleash him. After the Cowboys game...There was no secret. I have liked this kid pre-draft and he is doing exactly what I knew he would be doing...I just thought it would be much sooner, but injuries and such changed the timeline. Let's hope he is healthy for the rest of the season and finishes strong as well as Doubs and Toure. Watson and Williams are the most athletic WR's in the draft. Watson is similar to Megatron of old in RAS score. Packers win 27-20....GPG

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canadapacker's picture

December 15, 2022 at 11:42 pm

I believe that Watson can be our version of Deeboo Samuel - but I have a couple of concerns - he takes too many head shots. Given Lafleur's recent lack of innovative play calling and our bad red zone results - Will he use Watson to the maximum without getting him hurt. I fully believe next year that we have all that we need with Doubs Toure and Watson and all we need is Lazard back as a safety blanket and for cripes sake get us a new style tight end . I wouldnt mind Tonyon on a prove it 1 year ( if he wants more good luck RT) - but the game runs around guys like Kelse Kittle Shultz ( last year)

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T7Steve's picture

December 16, 2022 at 08:07 am

Exactly!

TEs make the world go round.

A very important part of a dominant O-line which is required to have a dominant offense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 11:02 am

This is Tonyan's prove-it year.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 16, 2022 at 01:54 pm

At 6'5" Watson and Lazard can't be covered if they're on the perimeter and AR12 has his normal accuracy, which requires protection. (Being free from injury helps, too)

Does ANY team have 2 WRs that tall? I can't believe all the obvious ways coaches are failing this year. Too easy to scheme somebody open. Maybe they'll start doing that now?

Sammy Watkins' numbers equal Lazard's on reception % and yards per reception; a fraction better in fact. Yet they're throwing him away just like they did Amari Rogers. Don't forget about Winfree, he's pretty solid.

2 O linemen at 6'9" that have never played a snap. But throw for 30 yards on 3rd and short - because we like losing? Too easy to put them both at guard, give the ball to Quadzilla and PUSH.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 16, 2022 at 03:12 am

Ken I share your enthusiasm regarding Watson and I'll not discuss did Packers need to trade their picks for higher one, because we do not know what was the dynamic of the draft, and what info Brian Gutekunst had about interests for Watson from other franchises. This is in the deep dark for us.

But, even if Watson will be rookie of the year, I'll tend to keep my evaluation on him until his 3rd season in NFL. Some guys flourish early than drop and some are late blossoming types. Of course there are guys they are excellent from start and keeps that level constantly. I believe we will know soon enough which type is Watson.

I hope he is the one who keeps his excellence constantly.

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NoNonsense's picture

December 16, 2022 at 09:00 am

Here is the the truth. Christian Watson missed nearly all of training camp and all 3 preseason games because of "knee surgery" not an ankle injury.

Besides Drake London who hurt his knee in his first preseason game and got shutdown for the preseason and Jameson Williams who didn't play a snap till 2 or 3 weeks ago, none of the drafted WRs had to deal with the kind of adversity Watson had to start their career. Still on the very first play, in his very first game in the NFL Watson showed what he was capable of.

Does he drop that 75 yard TD if he plays in even 1 preseason game or gets more than a week of practice to prepare for that first opportunity. Obviously we can't know that but after that drop Aaron Rodgers does what I expected, looks over to the sideline as if to say, see I can't count on this rookie and proceeded to almost forget about him the rest of the game. Man how things might have changed if he only caught that first ball.

Only injury can stop Christian Watson IMHO and besides Megatron who had size on him or Moss who was leaner and more acrobatic with better hands than him, there is not really another comparison for the kind of athlete Watson is at his size.

Before the season I predicted Watson, Wyatt and Zach Tom would be our best performing rookies. Watson because of pure athletic talent. Tom because of excellent technique, positional versatility, athletic ability and calm demeanor. Wyatt because of amazing lateral agility and an explosive first step.

Watson took a minute but he's a proven game changing talent. No surprise with Tom he's exactly what I thought he could be when given the opportunity, he can start anywhere along the OL and will excel. Wyatt is the only guy I was wrong about but I don't think it's because of talent or ability, I just think he's been misused or more obviously not used hardly at all. That's kind of a shock considering Joe Barry coached on team with Aaron freaking Donald on it. Wyatt can be Donald like and you will see that in the coming years once they start playing him and allowing him to do the things that made him a first round pick in the first place.

Romeo Doubs is the one guy a lot of us thought might surprise and he showed that pretty quickly in training camp. Although he has had typical rookie struggles and missed time due to injury he looks like a keeper and potential number 2 next to Watson.

The future is bright with these 4 guys. Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 16, 2022 at 11:24 am

I, and several others on this board agreed Doubs would be out of the gate faster than Watson due to his sublime college career with TDs, yards, receptions and complete route tree....but also believed that long term Christian would be the real deal maker.

Neither of these young men have disappointed, except for the injuries. I wonder what Romeo would have produced by now without the recent injury. But finally, on Monday, the Rams will be heavily tested with these two studs...assuming MLF knows how to use them and Rodgers decides to agree.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:15 pm

He was in an AIR RAID offense. The route tree is vector and find the open guy. Doubs has the key ingredient for a possession wideout, great hands.

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Dragon5's picture

December 16, 2022 at 12:35 pm

Given our draft history, let's just make it work to draft ALL of our picks in the 2nd round.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:04 pm

Certainly nobody on the Packers can be declared "head and shoulders above the rest" while they're sitting at 5-8. Not even if they finish 9-8.

Many are saying the WR room still needs help from the draft. I just crunched numbers comparing Sammy Watkins to Allen Lazard this year and Sammy is basically identical in reception % and yards per catch; slightly ahead in both. It feels like they're throwing him away. He'll be 29 next season, was a first round pick, and isn't he our second fastest offensive player?

We just watched them throw away Amari Rogers when they could have traded him before the deadline and gotten what, at least a fourth round pick? These are mistakes this organization can NOT afford, especially with the salary cap problems looming in coming years. They can develop the current room and be (theoretically) in good shape, or better. Lazard and Watson both at 6'5" is a one of a kind, right? They aren't using them on the perimeter where they're a safe target no matter how they're covered.
Hopefully all these guys play well the rest of the season, go Pack!

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:17 pm

How did the analysis work out for running the wrong routes and adjustments?

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13TimeChamps's picture

December 16, 2022 at 03:25 pm

"Lazard and Watson both at 6'5" is a one of a kind, right?"

No, they're not. Being the same height doesn't make them "one of a kind". Completely different players. Lazard is a middle of the field possession type who excels at picking up 1st downs. Watson is the homerun threat every time he touches the ball with his breakaway speed that Lazard doesn't possess.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:06 pm

CW was one of my draft crushes. I was over the moon with the pick. However, through training camp injuries, his big drop on the first offensive play of the season, then injuries again, I started questioning my unconditional love for him. I completely forgot to be patient. Historically, WR’s in the NFL take a little time. With all that said, if he stays healthy and doesn’t turn into a diva, his career stats will land him “within” the top 30 receivers of all time. IMO, that’s his potential. I realize this is a bit cringe, but I’m gonna hit submit anyway.

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Since'75's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:38 pm

"General Manager Brian Gutekunst decided the value at that point was on defense..."
So far i haven't seen that value.
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Up to week 8 i was saying that Doubs was outperforming Wyatt, Walker, and Watson.
Now your right, Watson is easily out performing Walker and Wyatt;
Either way....it's a pretty sad reflection of our two #1 picks.
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I'll go with the Packers Monday night, it will be interesting to see how our rookie's take to the cold.
I would think that Watson would fare better than the kid from L.A.
But we'll see.

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Since'75's picture

December 17, 2022 at 08:05 am

I love you boys that do the thumbs down.
It means you disagree right?

But then, you offer not one word why you disagree.

I wish i could offer you guys a cookie, or an ice cream cone.
Or maybe wish you more intellect, than simply clicking thumbs down.

But that's ok kids....you be you 😉

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Geezzzhead's picture

December 16, 2022 at 02:50 pm

Watson is just beginning. Confidence means so much.i would of love to see lazzard at tight end,sometimes, Watson, toure,doubs,Watkins on the field at the same time...I like our rookies....I would love to see Goodson on the 53.,then on the field. Watson reminds me of James Lofton ,
Go Pack Go 🧀

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NoNonsense's picture

December 16, 2022 at 09:19 pm

Completely agree with you here about Watson and confidence and Goodson being promoted. Gotta see what he can do before the year is up and before someone else snatches him off the PS.

Since someone mentioned Watson and head injuries I'd like to point out that he was only diagnosed with 1 concussion and the other time your thinking of, he wasn't diagnosed with a concussion but it was shortly after the Tua debacle so they kept him out of the game to exercise caution.

Speaking of that concussion. I think because of the big drop in the first game and then the hamstring injury early in the season, Watson was pressing or trying to do too much with the ball when he got it. He was trying to be a tough guy and trying to deliver a blow by lowering his helmet. I think that was a learning experience and now that he's proven himself capable of running away from just about anyone. He knows he doesn't need to prove anything and will be smarter about getting down without the big collision when he does get tackled. Big collisions at the catch point will pose a bigger threat but he's so tall that they may not reach his head or neck area.

I'd be more worried about lower body injuries like his surgically repaired knee getting reinjured or his hamstrings since what makes him so special is his speed.

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Since'75's picture

December 17, 2022 at 08:16 am

I remember watching Lynn Dickey to James Lofton.
Loved it.

To give younger fans an idea how good Dickey/Lofton was, he had 2 seasons over 1300 yards, and 2 two over 1200, with two of those seasons averaging over 22 yards per catch.

This happened in a time when the QB wasn't so protected, and corners/safety's could play you tough.

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