SL, I question exactly who is making these decisions at this point. Is it truly a team effort? Is it lafleur not wanting to move on from vets? Or is murphy coming in and overuling gute and mlf to appease 12? Gute has twice now insinuated hes not truly on board with the direction this team is headed. He said it after they traded for Cobb that it was something he never wouldve done. Then, the other day he mentioned how the constant restructuring and pushing money down the road is a deviation from normal operating procedure which I think was basically a cry for help. He knows this team is going down the road to hell and theres absolutely nothing he can do it about it except draft players and sign cheap free agents off the scrap heap. Hes a thompson disciple. He knows that protecting the salary cap is paramount to having a stable on-field product year in and year out. No way he would ever consider any of this a good idea. This stinks of Murphy. He doesnt care about the fallout cuz he wont be around to deal with it. How hes allowed to bend this team to his and/or Rodgers' career timetables should be a criminal offense.

"Who'd have thunk that would end up biting us in the ass?"

Many of us, posting on this page...

Heres the kicker, if they didnt have Rodgers' contract on the books, they wouldnt have had to restructure Jones' or Kenny Clark's contracts which means neither of them would be $20 million dollar cap hits this year. Moves Ted Thompson or Ron Wolf never wouldve made. Moves i dont think even Gute makes if not for Murphy breathing down his neck.

Ah yes, the dime store shrink.

My thoughts exactly, from Jones to the band-aid. You always communicate the points very well.

Add Kenny "disappear for half of a season" Clark's $20+ million dollar cap hit to the "MUST GO" pile. Im not seeing many others talking about this but Ive been calling ever since they restructured his deal last year that he would like be cut/traded this offseason. Drafting Wyatt only furthered my thinking on this. Love Clark, but his cap hit is nowhere near justified by his play. Hes dominant at times (rarely and usually against backup centers for the vikings or bears) but not nearly enough. This all couldve been avoided if they werent forced into restructuring his and Jones' deals due to borderline criminal cap mismanagement. And yet here we are. Lord help this team.

Excellent counterpoints, RC. Without Jones in 2022, we probably would've gone 6-11. Whenever he was on, the offense was clicking. And like you said, he's not used like an old school back where he's getting 20+ carries a game. If anything, one could argue the Packers have extended his career because they don't ground and pound him every game.

Dillon took a step backward this season. Yes, the stupid shotgun handoffs are annoying, but the difference between Jones and Dillon was plain for all to see.

Jones is Alvin Kamara Lite. He's not as big, but he's a do-it-all back that I'm afraid without him, this team is going to tank hard in 2023. I'd rather trade Rodgers and find a way to restructure Jones' contract.

After accepting NP's take on this I'm starting to lean toward yours This team is not going to be fun to watch at all unless the Oline is drastically improved no matter who the Quarterback is, and especially if it's Rodgers And getting rid of him especially just isn't right. He is a real Packer

The smart play is to restructure.
And your point of grabbing Robinson was mine too.
But if they can't get Robinson.
Porter CB PS might be the next solution.
The Lions and Vikings have CB as their #1priority.
Taking Porter keeps him away from them.
It also moves Douglass to Safety.
Point- Take the player that hurts your opponent!

Well they had Tyler Goodson. He is, also, very elusive and with ok pass abilities. His problem is blocking, but he had 1 season to train blocking.

Who knows...

Agreed! Dillon is always someone who will need a Warrick Dunn to his Mike Alstott.

He's not Derrick Henry.

"The motive to trade Jones was his age. Not production".

You must mixed two Aarons and than pick wrong family name to put with the name. Because, talking about age A. Jones is 10 years younger than A. whatever, your life love. You are so hurting ACR will never hug you and gently kiss you.

D. Henry has more fumbles that Aaron Jones, even ACR has more fumbles than AJ. So, start with the most expensive, wasted, old and arrogant egomaniac first to save SC.

Belichick would have moved him after the NFC CH game turnovers. It came back again vs. Detroit. The LBs and DBs know they can strip the ball from him and his fundamentals are still in question.

We need to get younger. No matter what we do, we won’t be authentic super bowl contenders in 2023. There is no point, then, in keeping a 29 year old RB who has a 10 million cap hit. We need to get younger and find a different engine of our offense.

The savings to cut/trade Jones is almost the same as what the Packers could get out of a restructure, so the option exists if Jones is willing to buy in. It gets him a bolus of fresh cash when, if he hits the open market, he might find himself moving more toward a series of one-year contracts until he retires. Most teams--Packers included--are not going to want to make a commitment that carries too far into the future.

That said, the Packers still will need to find another back either through the draft, UDFA, or FA. They let Hill go. Taylor doesn't seem to excite them very much. They have Goodson on the PS, but he's more one-trick pony at this stage than feature back. This takes the pressure off finding a guy who can pick up NFL blocking schemes or run as many routes as Jones does from day 1...that means it takes the pressure off the first two days of the draft. There's only so much draft capital.

The Packers actually will have less cap space if we trade Rodgers. Still think it is worth it, though

No, do 4th round r!

I kept waiting for him to hit another gear or start playing with that famous "chip on his shoulder" and it never happened. I wouldn't put it past him to be able to do it next year (depending on the O-line however). Still would like to be able to just have a game manager for a QB. That would mean the O-line was fixed and the offensive coordinator's plan worked.

"His contract numbers were designed to require a re-work in this season anyways."

^^THIS^^

This deal was never intended to be in place in 2023 as signed.

Dillon can't pick the hole to run through even if its as wide as a truck..for a guy who's nickname is "Quadzilla" he sure isn't D. Henry...and Jones goes down at first contact plus the big game fumbles..

Your right!! They are Yo-Yos who want a rebuild.
And the Bitching will never stop when it comes!

I can help you understand. There is a finite amount of money. Jones takes too much of it. Also, he's 29 years old. The team is in cap hell. There is only one way out, younger, faster, cheaper.

jones was a 5th rounder. he's really good. you can't keep them all.

Running backs rarely win games..but they sure can help lose them..

I like it!

Very Valid reasons but Im gonna add one in favor of Jones:

If Lafluer is moronic enough to keep Berry then this organization has no buisness cutting Jones . He is a consumate pro , fantastic human being, and player.

Lafluer by keeping Berry is already setting the packers up for 2022 repeat in 2023. So since we will be 8 and 9 again with the might joe berry leading the defense why cut anyone ir add anyone makes no sense .

Clown Show At 1265 Lombardi Avenue continues

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Packers fan: Looks at salary cap website with a tenuous understanding of math
Packers fan: Oh no, 20 million is way too much for the best player on our offense
Scrolls down to see Darnell Savage, one of the worst players on the defense, will be 8 million
Packers fan: This is fine

It’s time for a rod to go

I don’t agree. I think we should stick with Aaron Jones but work on a restructure that works for both sides. That takes care of the contract issue.

The Age and importance of position are both WEAK arguments. Turning 29 get the wheelchair ready. Ridiculous. Plenty of good years ahead.

Position not worth the value? Nonsense. Every guy was screaming “run the ball” all…season…long. Now who do you think is going to RUN the damn ball. You guys crack me up.

Aaron Jones is a Packer and I want him to remain a Packer. We have some problems. He ain’t it.

Now you went and angered the man!👀

https://twitter.com/Showtyme_33/status/1616531008697892867?t=Bd4BB0j40YK...

Get rid of 12, keep 33. NFCCG in 2023 Because 10 WILL come to OTA’s and learn who his receivers are. No one’s gonna cry when 12 leaves. He’s too much. In the last 6 years with 12 we are 3-3 for winning seasons!!! That’s not cool! Cause, I don’t know what more Gute can do to motivate him than drafting 10 did!

If they don’t dump Rodgers, nothing else matters.

You think it was feasible to keep a depleted aaron rodgers? Pathetic stats the past 2 seasons! Rodgers had mirrored favre & not in a positive manner. His selfishess on the field, worrying abt his own stats & not giving a rats a$$ abt others or the end result of the season as a team..just the most selfish award of the year.. MVP!
Jones & Dillons talent has been wasted in green bay with rodgers under center. Many targets should & could have been utilized had #12 not lost his football IQ! Or thrown a temper tantrum when GB drafted a qb to develop
as they did with buttercup Rodgers! The same thing happened with favres attitude when rodgers was drafted! Snowflake needs to suck it up! His DEPLETED athleticism is a big part of why he ONLY has ONE ring in EIGHTEEN SEASONS unlike #TB!
Packers will get paid when 12 is gone n a cpl of months!
PAY JONES & the other worthy players what they deserve!
Tom Brady is worth that kinda money.. not Buttercup Rodgers!

That’s simply a bullshit take to get clicks. These teams pull all kinds of accounting moves to change cap hits. People like you put shit out here that a player sees, as AARON DID and puss them off. Sometimes it’s better to shut up and be a non inflammatory fan.

Straight trash opinion

Just in case Aaron Jones checks back in on this article -- which reportedly caused him some real hurt -- I wanted to leave my recent reply from a different article in which I advocated keeping Jones and Mason Crosby.
https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/corys-corner-pay-cut-or-no-pay-cut-128#com...
I left at least one other related comment in this thread, just in case Aaron or anyone else is interested, in which I suggested extending his contract for another year to help ease the immediate cap hit.
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It has seemed to me quite possible that Packers players read the articles and fan comments at CHTV -- especially as I know of no other site that has a good volume of ideas and opinions from fans.
When certain guys come through over the years for the Packers and us as fans, I'm much more likely to stick with them when it's a tough call due to age or other circumstances.
Football is not just a business. Our Packers aren't only players but also persons.
It's only human that players respond to how they're treated by us as fans, just as we care about how the players act toward us.
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I do think that good fans can disagree about whether or not to keep Aaron Jones, but all players are risks to not live up to their contracts.
Even based simply on football considerations, Jones is still young enough and dynamic enough to give us a couple more seasons of exceptional play as a runner and receiver. He is likely to continue to be elite.
Add in the kind of guy Jones appears to be as far as excellent character, and it makes a huge amount of sense to try to keep him around.
With players like Jones and Crosby still productive, give them the benefit of the doubt for future performance, let them know they are treasured, and find a way to keep them as Packers going forward.