Will we see Elgton Jenkins at Right Tackle?

As uncertainty still surrounds the right tackle position for the Green Bay Packers, could we see Elgton Jenkins make a move?

While the wide receiver position dominates the headlines, my biggest concern entering Week 1 is the state of the right tackle position. 

With the always under-appreciated Bryan Bulaga out in Los Angeles, the Green Bay Packers turned to veteran Rick Wagner to help fill that void. Prior to joining the Packers, Wagner had spent his NFL career with the Baltimore Ravens and the Detroit Lions, primarily as a starter. He has battled through injuries, playing in all 16 games just one time since 2014, and he's coming off a particularly down 2019 season. 

We know that Wagner is a downgrade compared to Bulaga; however, the question is, how much?

As the offseason rolled on, it was assumed that Wagner was going to be the team's starting right tackle. But even before training camp began, Matt LaFleur made it abundantly clear - and he has several other times since then - that when it comes to the right side of the offensive line, "nothing is set in stone."

Unfortunately, after about a month of practices and Week 1 right around the corner, those questions surrounding the right tackle position still remain largely unanswered. 

Wagner would miss about a week of practices with an arm injury, and when he was on the field, from the sounds of things, he didn't really standout. In Wagner's absence, that left Billy Turner to take many of the first-team reps at right tackle, in which he surprisingly performed quite well as Packer Report's Andy Herman pointed out recently by saying Turner "has had almost no issues in Rick Wagner's absence."

Yes, this is encouraging, but I still have my doubts. As I've mentioned in previous articles, Turner is better suited at the guard position rather than out on an island working in space. However, as of now, I'm not sure that Turner is even an option for the Packers as it was reported by Rob Demovsky of ESPN that "Week 1 may be unlikely" for Turner after tweaking his knee in last Sunday's scrimmage. 

So against a stout Vikings' pass-rush, that leaves the Packers with Wagner at tackle, who is still new to the offense, coming off a training camp injury of his own, and still unproven in a Packers' uniform. Or they could go with Yosh Nijman, who has the size and athleticism that team's covet at the tackle position, but no regular-season NFL experience. 

Yet perhaps there is one other option, a less conventional option, that moves Eglton Jenkins from left guard to right tackle. In a recent Zoom call with reporters, LaFleur was asked about this, and he didn't shut the idea down:

“Yeah, I think we’re looking at every combination. The goal is to always get your best five out there. We’ll look at everything.”

Jenkins is, of course, coming off an excellent rookie season in which he didn't allow a single sack and gave up just one quarterback hit in 694 pass-blocking attempts. In fact, Jenkins was one of only two guards, Zack Martin of Dallas being the other, who had at least 650 pass-blocking snaps, and didn't allow a single sack. Certainly not bad company for the rookie guard.

Before settling into the starting center role at Mississippi State, Jenkins made six starts at tackle during his first two seasons. Overall as a redshirt freshman and a sophomore, he was one the field for 934 snaps and allowed only two sacks

Jenkins' strength is as a pass-blocker - as was evident last season - but with a Relative Athletic Score of 9.34, he has the movement skills along with his 34" arms to be successful on the edge. Although as a guard, we didn't see him working in space often, there were several examples from last season where he held his own just fine. 

As LaFleur mentioned, putting the best five offensive linemen on the field is their goal, and there's certainly the possibility that that means having Jenkins play right tackle. Now, if Green Bay did go this route, Lane Taylor would likely shift back to left guard where he spent much of his career, and Lucas Patrick would take over at right guard next to Jenkins. 

Earlier this offseason, Demovsky reported that the Packers weren't considering moving Jenkins to right tackle, especially with how successful he was at guard. However, things change quickly in the NFL as we've seen before. While I wouldn't rule this out depending on how things unfold, and it's an enticing proposition given the uncertainty at the position, my guess is that Jenkins is going to be at left guard next Sunday; at least for now.

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Born and raised in Green Bay, WI and I still call it home. After my family, watching the Packers, sharing my opinions on the team through my writing and interacting with other fans is my greatest passion. You can find me on Twitter at @Paul_Bretl. 
 

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 12:33 pm

Just sheer roster building negligence to do next to nothing to fix the tackle position over the course of an entire off-season.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 07, 2020 at 12:35 pm

They didn't give Wagner a 3.5 M bonus to work the bench.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 12:37 pm

Based on his injury history, yes, they did.

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marpag1's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:04 pm

Um... he's missed 10 games in seven years, which means on average he's played in 14.6 out of 16 games per season.

Did you check his injury history before you wrote this?

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:24 pm

I did check his injury history before posting. 4 of the 10 games missed were last season, and didn’t look spectacular in the games he did appear in. PFF graded him at 59.0 overall. 60.2 in pass-pro and 53.9 in the run game. For a team that wants to run a lot of outside zone, Wagner’s skill set doesn’t appear greatly suited for this offense.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:55 pm

Do you actually believe that the Packer staff didn’t watch the film of every single snap he took last year?

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CoachDino's picture

September 08, 2020 at 05:36 am

Go back and look at our boy Brian Bs games missed in the last 4 years, I am assuming, its even worse. Wagner also was a Top Tackle in this league not that long ago.

Guys get hurt, and fewer and fewer can make it through a season without missing time.

Yes, some guys are injury prone, but the worrisome injuries are recurring injuries, most often but not exclusively Knee and Back. That hasn't been kirksey or wagner's injury history and bodes well for the future but is no guarantee. GMs can't be frozen by fear, there is risk in the decisions they must make and there is one thing for certain. Guys will get hurt and mistakes will be made.

One of the Factors with BB was his injury history and the risk of long term investment. Wagners contract on the other hand is remarkably team friendly. Plus do you think BB is going to be as good and as healthy in 2020 as 2019? History say no, though I know we Packer fans wish him all the best.

When they drafted Elkins there was talk of his ability to play tackle in the NFL, hopefully it doesn't come to that but between signing wagner, Turner, developing Yosh and keeping Taylor, I would say they have done a great deal to bolster the RT position. What I would say is they didn't prioritize it in the draft, I do wonder why. Until I see a young RT step up for the Pack I do hope they draft an OT in the 1st few rounds in 2020. Even better if Yosh steps up. They need to start developing a LT behind Bakh as well. He's a stud but looks like his body is breaking down a bit. Hoping for a 3 year extension.

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Coldworld's picture

September 07, 2020 at 02:31 pm

I think that’s blowing Wagner’s history completely out of context. One would think that he has sucked for his whole career. Bulaga was nit exactly issue free on the injury front. Which established tackle was available? First round draft pick? Starting week one? Something of a gamble. Wagner seems less risky than that. Big name FA? Who would we cut/trade to pay for that? Maybe not resign Clark?

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September 07, 2020 at 03:27 pm

He played with a bad wheel for a chunk of 2019 and next to a revolving door at RG in Detroit. The interior line in DET has been a dumpster fire for years.

Milt Hendrickson was the OL scout in Baltimore for many years while Wagner was there. I'm sure he did a pretty strict evaluation of Wagner before the Packers signed him. The question is: what role did they have in mind for him?

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Qoojo's picture

September 07, 2020 at 12:59 pm

I am guessing you think roster building is like fantasy football, right? Starting RTs are everywhere, and hindsight + selective memory makes everyone a genius.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 01:18 pm

Even Ben Fennel said it was negligent to not do anything at T this off-season. Could have drafted a guy like Niang, or Cleveland to be RT2. Instead GB got RB3 and FB3 In the second and third rounds. That’s not hindsight, that was said real-time about the right side of the OL.

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Stroh's picture

September 07, 2020 at 02:23 pm

What teams staff did Fennel ever work for? Oh thats right NONE!

Nothing against Fennel, but he's little more than a fan like you or I. I hardly rate him as any kind of roster building expert. If he knows so much he should be in an NFL front office, But he's NOT! Hell I trust my own judgement more than his!

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:19 pm

Andy Herman also agreed with Ben on his assessment, are you going to discredit him as well? I’m going to go out on a limb and say both are more accomplished in this area than you or I, Stroh.

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Stroh's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:57 pm

And what NFL team has Andy worked for? Again, he's just a fan and by no means any kind of expert! I like Andy's work and agree w/ him on alot discussion points. But yeah, again I trust my own opinion as much as Andy's. LIke I said, I like alot of his work, but he strikes me as very much a yes man who agrees w/ whoever is on the podcast with him.

I've actually taken time to study the Packers and their decision making processes, instead of watching like a fan. I try to impart what I"ve found, but most like you don't pay attention. Your Loss!

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Leatherhead's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:58 pm

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the Packer personnel people are more accomplished than Fennel or Herman.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2020 at 12:34 am

Yes, and if we were to write off players who have missed most of a season during their careers we might have lost some great ones. Wagner has been an above average tackle for most of his career. As Dobber has noted, he played last year on a bad leg because he was still better than any other option they had.

Wagner has been pretty healthy and a good tackle over his career. Doesn’t mean he will stay healthy but as good a bet on that front as Bulaga. When he has been healthy he has been a good enough player to be the highest paid at his position (albeit by Millen I think). Don’t let the facts hit you on the way out.

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Oppy's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:30 pm

You're right that Fennel isnt employed by an NFL franchise, but Fennel has demonstrated a technical understanding of football that most fans, including you and I, have not.

Don't kid yourself. Fennel knows more about football than the average fan, and I definitely trust his judgement more than mine or yours.

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Stroh's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:59 pm

And I've taken the time to study the Packers decision making process, not just watch as a fan. Has Fennel. He seems to know his stuff, but I don't think he knows any more than I do. Same for Andy who seems to have alot of the same opinions as I do. I Ain't no average fan!

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 05:01 pm

I’d be interested to hear what “taken the time to study the Packers decision making process, not just watch as a fan” encompasses. You seem to have a pretty high opinion of yourself when you compare your body of work to two guys who actually do it for a living. Please, enlighten the group.

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Oppy's picture

September 07, 2020 at 07:45 pm

With all due respect, you are average at best in your knowledge and understanding of the Packers, at least around these parts. This place is full of people who know a great deal about the Packers and football in general.

I've read your posts over the years, and you have decent opinions to share. You are nowhere near as informed as Ben or Andy. Frankly, it's almost offensive to suggest you would.

Imagine if I claimed to be just as informed about sports medicine or athletic training as you are because I read a few articles and talk about it with others in my spare time, while you have gone to school and practice the craft 40-60 hours a week professionally. That'd be ridiculous, right?

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2020 at 12:37 am

Can’t support you on the talking heads must be better front. A few are and earn respect. But if facts contradict it’s typically unwise to go with the professional talker. In this case, a dubious premise supported only by “he said so” remains dubious.

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September 08, 2020 at 05:44 am

I think we are at another one of those there is no right or wrong. It's easy to say they should do this or that, what I seldom see behind it is who they then will need to cut or not draft or resign/Sign. Not pointing at the writers mentioned but all of us. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum, I wish we would see more of the cost side of all of our Benefit discussions-

Pack obviously prioritized the critical missing pieces in implementing this offense over a future RT and decided they would benefit greater from plugging in a veteran to a position that needed to immediately start. Fricken Spriggs was supposed to be the guy - loser!!

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Oppy's picture

September 08, 2020 at 01:48 pm

Andy Herman and Ben fennel study the game Film careful and the team as well; I would not lump Them in with local or even national sports figures who are often More or less just talking heads as opposed to truly knowledgeable.

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September 07, 2020 at 02:31 pm

Niang opted out for the 2020 season and beside was still rehabbing his hip surgery. A redshirt year for him.

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September 07, 2020 at 03:12 pm

A guy who red-shirts because he opts out gets dinged, but everyone in our fan base hails a 5th round pick who’s going to miss 8 weeks is a savior of a position group? Doesn’t make much sense to me.

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September 07, 2020 at 03:38 pm

They already had Turner who can play RT (and by all accounts he had a great offseason at the position) and they signed Wagner. You are completely blowing Wagner's injury history out of proportion, it makes me wonder if you are basing your opinion on a few headlines and nothing else. He did not play well last season as he played through injuries, but he has tape of being an above average starter over multiple seasons in the NFL. They were never going to resign Bulaga and unless they could've gotten him at discount on a one or two year contract they shouldn't have... We have too many important longterm pieces to resign by next offseason and the salary cap dropping to 175 million next year is a unique problem (it will very likely jump back up to around 200 million in 2022, but that's not a guarantee).

Have a problem with them drafting Love in the first round? Fine, that's reasonable given we made it to the NFC Championship game, but people hated when we drafted Aaron Rodgers too. Have a problem with them not drafting a receiver in what appeared to be a really, really good draft class? Fine, that's reasonable, but they did sign a guy who has put up #2 WR numbers over multiple seasons. Unfortunately, he opted out. That also doesn't take into account the possibility that MVS or EQ will make jumps. MVS especially was playing well before he hurt both his knee and ankle. People seem to forget that Jordy Nelson didn't put up good numbers until the playoffs of his third season. Davante Adams' had almost the exact same numbers as MVS through two seasons, he also struggled with injuries in his second season with some idiots calling for him to be cut before he broke out in his third season. The NFL is built on guys making jumps and becoming more consistent. The Packers have developed guys as well as anyone in the league over the past decade plus, especially at O-Line and WR.

Gutekunst took a roster that was devoid of talent and depth at several positions because TT's last few drafts didn't work out and got them to the NFC championship game in two seasons. No team is strong at every position group, the salary cap doesn't allow for that unless you have one of the rare high level QBs on a rookie contract and even then it takes a lot of luck. You can question certain moves, but not giving Gutekunst the respect that he knows what he's doing is insulting especially if you aren't a coach or a scout or watch a ton of All 22 film.

What would you have done about RT this offseason?

Keep in mind, we had to resign Clark to close to a record contract (which he deserved, he's young enough that he can still improve on his already stellar play instead of just hoping he plays at the same level, his deal will probably look like a bargain by 2022; just like Aaron Rodgers' contract does now). Next up is Bak on another huge contract then Aaron Jones, Corey Linsley and Kevin King are all in line as well with next year's salary cap dropping to 175 million.

I'll wait...

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ShanghaiKid's picture

September 07, 2020 at 04:55 pm

First I’m not going to bother to comment on Love because I never mentioned him. Also never mentioned having a problem with the current WR’s, or the non-selection during the draft.

The entire premise of the conversation is, and has been, centered on the OL.

I’m not blowing Wagner’s injury history out of proportion. He missed 25% of last season and looked below average while playing. That’s concerning. While it’s nice that Turner has reportedly looked good in camp, it’s not real game action. Turner graded pretty poorly while playing tackle in Denver. The tape (for now) says Turner’s sample size at Tackle hasn’t gone well.

What would I have done? Personally, I would have liked to have seen a Tackle(s) of the future drafted, with a better stop-gap option than Billy Turner or Rick Wagner. Dennis Kelly is a pretty cheap option that signed with TEN. Kelvin Beachum and James Hurst are younger or cheaper options.

I’m glad you brought up Bakh and Linsley. What’s the plan there if one or both aren’t back next season? You just lost 3 elite OL in 2 years with no experienced talent behind them. Keep in mind Jenkins can’t play everywhere at once.

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September 07, 2020 at 12:46 pm

I kinda agree with you on Jenkins, though I'm really hoping Nijman develops quickly into the permanent ROT. Nijman's tape at VaTech and Combine numbers were both very promising, and I don't understand why he wasn't drafted https://nflspinzone.com/2019/03/02/nfl-draft-offensive-linemen-risers-co...

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Stroh's picture

September 07, 2020 at 02:19 pm

Ninjman is like Bruce Campbell drafted by Raiders about 10 yrs ago, go ahead look him up. Amazing athlete at 6'7 315. But has no clue how to play football in general. Campbell was out of the NFL before his rookien contract ended. Ninjman is an absolute project. He's not ready for the NFL and TBH I doubt he ever will be!

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 07, 2020 at 02:34 pm

Good tackle prospects to look over next Spring from the draft. Leatherwood maybe Trey Smith can go RT...

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Stroh's picture

September 07, 2020 at 04:54 pm

The Packer draft philosophy is to always (or almost always) to draft the premium positions in round 1. OT is clearly one of those positons. I was a little surprised they didn't take Josh Jones OT Houston in rd 1, but they obviously thougtht (rightfully so) that a QB for the future was more important. They probably had Love rated alot higher than Jones as well. I had him as the #2 or 3 QB in the draft and just outside Top 10 overall (ahead of Herbet).

That all said, I definitely think OT will be among the positions they would look at first in round 1. I'm not even thinking about who it might be. Somewhere in round 1 or 2 would be likely to have the best chance to start as a rookie.

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GLM's picture

September 07, 2020 at 08:03 pm

It's too early to look at next season... let's focus on this one.

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Coldworld's picture

September 07, 2020 at 02:33 pm

Technique sucks and debate over willingness to take training (vs coaches just letting him use his physical advantages). So far looking like lazy coaching, but jury is still out. More run ready than pass ready.

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September 07, 2020 at 01:02 pm

There are options. Teams with a suspected area of weakness or uncertainty use TEs on that side or incorporate a FB. Others use an extra OL and call them a TE. Im not ruling anything out.

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September 07, 2020 at 04:13 pm

They are going to be playing w/ 2 TE sets alot more this year. In many cases, Lewis could be on the field, inline next to the RT. That would largely mitigate the RT deficiencies if they have them.

The other option is after Week 1 to sign Veldheer. They don't want to guarantee his full years salary by signing him before the 1st game. If they feel like neither Wagner or Turner can handle it sufficiently, they can make that call. Veldheer showed last year he can come in and start and play well w/o much practice. I wouldn't want to count on Veldheer for a full season, but who knows. Its the future and we're all guessing/predicting, at this point.

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September 07, 2020 at 05:55 pm

I'm curious if Veldheer only wants to play in GB since no other team has signed him.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2020 at 12:39 am

There has been doubt over his ability to last a season. Other teams maybe interested, but probably would wait till after week one too unless truly desperate.

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September 07, 2020 at 01:04 pm

A lot of negative feedback on this site for a position swap. The real question now that Brian is no longer on this team, is Jenkins better than the alternative players available? If this was even a question, he should have had snaps earlier in camp at first team OT. It would be hard to view our coaching staff of being this lame if they did not do their basic fundamental jobs. Jenkins is easily a pro bowl level OG. Would he be a lesser or average OT? I think if Nijiman is healthy he takes over RT before season ends. Jenkins will stay where he's at unless something worse happens at another OT position.

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September 07, 2020 at 01:30 pm

Gutey better hope his RT holds up against Minny----there must be some reason were not seeing as to why he didn't being back Veldheer----money? lack of versatility? unwilling or unable to go the full 16? What? Didn't fault Gutey for not bringing back Bulaga---price , history, age etc

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September 07, 2020 at 02:39 pm

Money in Part perhaps. Next year’s cap outlook is scary. After game one Veldheer can be signed without a guaranteed contract for the season.

Turner was on the sidelines working out at last practice. Wagner is practicing. We may not miss anyone week one. Nijman may be more advanced than we thought. Taylor has played left tackle before ... could be a to. Of reasons why Gute hasn’t panicked.

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September 07, 2020 at 03:30 pm

I think you're right: Wagner is the safe bet going into week 1 if Turner can't go. Whichever guy plays on that side is likely to have Lewis next to him a lot. Would love to see the Packers run right through the Vikes' defense.

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September 07, 2020 at 04:18 pm

If Veldheer is on the field week one, he full salary for the season becomes guaranteed. That is a big reason why he hasn't been in camp or playing week 1. He has a lengthy injury history as well and would be unlikely to make it thru a full season. But he will be someone they can call if/when the need arrises.

I don't like playing musical chairs on the OL. It creates 2 weaknesses instead of one. So moving Jenkins or Taylor as anything other than an emergency is a Non-starter for me.

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September 07, 2020 at 01:49 pm

Let's hope we don't see Jenkins at RT. It would mean weakening 2 positions instead of just one. I like Jenkins... A Lot. But he was tried at OT in college and if he was great at it, he would have stayed at OT, instead of being moved inside. He could probably play RT, but it would be at a lower level than probably Turner. So it would mean making both RT and LG weaker! This is a No Brainer! Do Not Move Jenkins! Leave him at LG and allow him to become an All Pro, like Sitton.

If they need help after week 1 at either OT spot, they will resign Veldheer. But you don't want Veldheer on the roster to start week 1 since it would guarantee his full salary for the year. If you need him get him after the viqueens game.

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September 07, 2020 at 03:07 pm

I think we'll be just fine with Turner at RT. He's not going to play at the level of Bulaga, but he's not going to be a liability either. As Packer fans we've really been spoiled with Bak and Bulaga. We've really been spoiled with offensive line play across the board for the better part of the past decade plus. If it was a long term injury concern I would be a little more worried.

Wagner has tape of being a slightly above average RT over multiple seasons so idk what's going on with him. Last year he did NOT play well, but he has in the past. I haven't seen enough tape of this offseason to know if Wagner isn't playing well or if Turner was just playing really, really well... It's likely a combination of the two because I have consistently heard reports of Turner having a great, albeit truncated, offseason at RT.

However, I will say that I think your underestimating Jenkins ability to play RT. I loved the pick and thought he could eventually move to RT after watching his college tape. He has all the attributes necessary to play the position well and he was dominant last season at guard. The kid just doesn't get moved backwards even when he doesn't have the best foot position, he has insane, ELITE strength at the point of attack. He has the length and foot speed necessary, but the one issue I saw last season was not utilizing his foot speed into great footwork (likely because he's so strong he's never really needed it, but that would definitely have to change if he moved to RT - it's something that's teachable though).

You make a good point about possibly making two spots on the line weaker, but if that's the case it would only be for the short term and that's sometimes necessary with injuries in football which makes Jenkins (and Turner's) versatility all the more valuable. Tackle is a more important position than guard, that's just a fact so you have to take that into account as well. You can scheme around subpar play at RT if the rest of the line is solid with a guy like Mercedes Lewis (and possibly Degura, he has some work to do as a receiver/route runner in the NFL, but his blocking should translate) and chipping to an extent, but that's really limiting in the play calling department. It also throws off route timing for both RB and TE.

In the short term, I'd be okay with Patrick starting at one of the guard spots (rumor is they might be signing Justin Britt although he wouldn't be available week one, he's a solid starter and a very, very good backup at C/G). That would allow Jenkins to shift temporarily (again from his tape, I really think he can play RT longterm, but that's obviously not guaranteed).

I think the most likely scenario is rolling with Wagner at RT week 1 and scheming help because Bak doesn't need any, but it would be really nice if Turner is able to play. Veldheer is a great emergency option for spot duty, but I think some Packer fans think too highly of him as a starter over several games. He played pretty well in spot duty, but he was given a lot of help... If we have to sign and play him at RT for an extended period of time this season I can guarantee that will not go well.

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September 07, 2020 at 04:42 pm

Veldheer is a close comp to Bulaga IMO. About the same age and with as much or more of a recent injury history. You don't want to count on him for a full season, but a month or 2 he would be more than fine.

I'm OK w/ some combination of Turner and Wagner at RT for the time being.

I really don't like moving an All Pro type LG and making an average or below average RT out of him. And there are usually unforeseen issues arrising even if its temporarily. If he had been a great or very good OT in college, he would have stayed at OT in all likelihood. OT are much harder to find than OG/C at every level of football. High School OT get moved to OG in college and college OT get moved to OG in the NFL. Maybe Jenkins could break that mold, but I'm not counting on it. Let Jenkins be an All Pro LG!

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2020 at 12:43 am

Veldheer is 33. Bulaga is 31. Wagner is 30.

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Lare's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:22 pm

I think Aaron Rodgers' main priority this season should be to stay healthy.

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Oppy's picture

September 07, 2020 at 03:32 pm

I'd also like Aaron Rodgers to make it a priority to run the offense as intended.

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September 07, 2020 at 03:51 pm

Way too much spin from the writer on LaFleur's coach speak. Starting four OL set, only question is it Turner or Wagner at RT. With Taylor claiming the RG spot (starter last year at LG) the battle for the RT was between the two veterans. Real problem Packers had was eval on both in compressed TC in limited game like conditions. Moving Jenkins was a non starter even if the Packers had more time under the old rules. 1st game comes down to whose available among the two injured veterans. Beyond that, we all know there is a certain veteran tackle who keeps friending Gute's Twitter feed..... :-)

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September 07, 2020 at 07:17 pm

Any sentence that indicates the team wants to play its five best (six best since this assumes an injury) OL and then suggests Patrick is one of them is idiotic. Lucas Patrick is terrible. He is okay pass blocking and awful at run blocking. GB wants to run more. This does not compute.

Patrick: 48 PFF grade was well-earned. His SIS stats are awful. He gets paid $1.27M AAV on a 2nd contract because that is what he is worth.

That is one reason GB brought in OC Justin Britt for a tryout. Could be due diligence, but Hanson did little in TC other than have trouble snapping the ball one day (which I hope got corrected). I had Patrick making the 53 by default. If Runyan can show enough at LG by say midseason, I would expect Patrick to get some healthy scratches on games days.

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Stroh's picture

September 08, 2020 at 11:17 am

Good comment as usual TGR. Hanson struggled w/ snapping because he played in an offense where the only thing he did was shotgun snap. They had absolutely zero snaps under center. So that was completely foreigh to him.

Agree about Patrick. He's on the team because he can cover both OG and C. A players 2nd contract is generally a good indication of his ability. The fact he barely has a 1M per yr type contract speaks to his overall ability and play.

Britt would be a good sign but I doubt they can afford him. They are most likely kicking the tires of a play in case they have a need in the future and he's still available. Due dilligence, not much more at this point.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 08, 2020 at 02:53 pm

Stroh, I agree with your point that players 2nd contract is an indicator. Of his value. Most guys don’t sign second contracts. Patrick’s value as a veteran who has survived this long is $1 million per year. Do you have any idea how many players on our roster make less than that?

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GLM's picture

September 07, 2020 at 08:06 pm

I have no problem moving Elgotron to RT, if the team feels he's the best man for the job. Taylor and Patrick can man the middle, just fine.

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