They didn't give Wagner a 3.5 M bonus to work the bench.

I am guessing you think roster building is like fantasy football, right? Starting RTs are everywhere, and hindsight + selective memory makes everyone a genius.

They already had Turner who can play RT (and by all accounts he had a great offseason at the position) and they signed Wagner. You are completely blowing Wagner's injury history out of proportion, it makes me wonder if you are basing your opinion on a few headlines and nothing else. He did not play well last season as he played through injuries, but he has tape of being an above average starter over multiple seasons in the NFL. They were never going to resign Bulaga and unless they could've gotten him at discount on a one or two year contract they shouldn't have... We have too many important longterm pieces to resign by next offseason and the salary cap dropping to 175 million next year is a unique problem (it will very likely jump back up to around 200 million in 2022, but that's not a guarantee).

Have a problem with them drafting Love in the first round? Fine, that's reasonable given we made it to the NFC Championship game, but people hated when we drafted Aaron Rodgers too. Have a problem with them not drafting a receiver in what appeared to be a really, really good draft class? Fine, that's reasonable, but they did sign a guy who has put up #2 WR numbers over multiple seasons. Unfortunately, he opted out. That also doesn't take into account the possibility that MVS or EQ will make jumps. MVS especially was playing well before he hurt both his knee and ankle. People seem to forget that Jordy Nelson didn't put up good numbers until the playoffs of his third season. Davante Adams' had almost the exact same numbers as MVS through two seasons, he also struggled with injuries in his second season with some idiots calling for him to be cut before he broke out in his third season. The NFL is built on guys making jumps and becoming more consistent. The Packers have developed guys as well as anyone in the league over the past decade plus, especially at O-Line and WR.

Gutekunst took a roster that was devoid of talent and depth at several positions because TT's last few drafts didn't work out and got them to the NFC championship game in two seasons. No team is strong at every position group, the salary cap doesn't allow for that unless you have one of the rare high level QBs on a rookie contract and even then it takes a lot of luck. You can question certain moves, but not giving Gutekunst the respect that he knows what he's doing is insulting especially if you aren't a coach or a scout or watch a ton of All 22 film.

What would you have done about RT this offseason?

Keep in mind, we had to resign Clark to close to a record contract (which he deserved, he's young enough that he can still improve on his already stellar play instead of just hoping he plays at the same level, his deal will probably look like a bargain by 2022; just like Aaron Rodgers' contract does now). Next up is Bak on another huge contract then Aaron Jones, Corey Linsley and Kevin King are all in line as well with next year's salary cap dropping to 175 million.

I'll wait...

Ninjman is like Bruce Campbell drafted by Raiders about 10 yrs ago, go ahead look him up. Amazing athlete at 6'7 315. But has no clue how to play football in general. Campbell was out of the NFL before his rookien contract ended. Ninjman is an absolute project. He's not ready for the NFL and TBH I doubt he ever will be!

Technique sucks and debate over willingness to take training (vs coaches just letting him use his physical advantages). So far looking like lazy coaching, but jury is still out. More run ready than pass ready.

They are going to be playing w/ 2 TE sets alot more this year. In many cases, Lewis could be on the field, inline next to the RT. That would largely mitigate the RT deficiencies if they have them.

The other option is after Week 1 to sign Veldheer. They don't want to guarantee his full years salary by signing him before the 1st game. If they feel like neither Wagner or Turner can handle it sufficiently, they can make that call. Veldheer showed last year he can come in and start and play well w/o much practice. I wouldn't want to count on Veldheer for a full season, but who knows. Its the future and we're all guessing/predicting, at this point.

Money in Part perhaps. Next year’s cap outlook is scary. After game one Veldheer can be signed without a guaranteed contract for the season.

Turner was on the sidelines working out at last practice. Wagner is practicing. We may not miss anyone week one. Nijman may be more advanced than we thought. Taylor has played left tackle before ... could be a to. Of reasons why Gute hasn’t panicked.

I think we'll be just fine with Turner at RT. He's not going to play at the level of Bulaga, but he's not going to be a liability either. As Packer fans we've really been spoiled with Bak and Bulaga. We've really been spoiled with offensive line play across the board for the better part of the past decade plus. If it was a long term injury concern I would be a little more worried.

Wagner has tape of being a slightly above average RT over multiple seasons so idk what's going on with him. Last year he did NOT play well, but he has in the past. I haven't seen enough tape of this offseason to know if Wagner isn't playing well or if Turner was just playing really, really well... It's likely a combination of the two because I have consistently heard reports of Turner having a great, albeit truncated, offseason at RT.

However, I will say that I think your underestimating Jenkins ability to play RT. I loved the pick and thought he could eventually move to RT after watching his college tape. He has all the attributes necessary to play the position well and he was dominant last season at guard. The kid just doesn't get moved backwards even when he doesn't have the best foot position, he has insane, ELITE strength at the point of attack. He has the length and foot speed necessary, but the one issue I saw last season was not utilizing his foot speed into great footwork (likely because he's so strong he's never really needed it, but that would definitely have to change if he moved to RT - it's something that's teachable though).

You make a good point about possibly making two spots on the line weaker, but if that's the case it would only be for the short term and that's sometimes necessary with injuries in football which makes Jenkins (and Turner's) versatility all the more valuable. Tackle is a more important position than guard, that's just a fact so you have to take that into account as well. You can scheme around subpar play at RT if the rest of the line is solid with a guy like Mercedes Lewis (and possibly Degura, he has some work to do as a receiver/route runner in the NFL, but his blocking should translate) and chipping to an extent, but that's really limiting in the play calling department. It also throws off route timing for both RB and TE.

In the short term, I'd be okay with Patrick starting at one of the guard spots (rumor is they might be signing Justin Britt although he wouldn't be available week one, he's a solid starter and a very, very good backup at C/G). That would allow Jenkins to shift temporarily (again from his tape, I really think he can play RT longterm, but that's obviously not guaranteed).

I think the most likely scenario is rolling with Wagner at RT week 1 and scheming help because Bak doesn't need any, but it would be really nice if Turner is able to play. Veldheer is a great emergency option for spot duty, but I think some Packer fans think too highly of him as a starter over several games. He played pretty well in spot duty, but he was given a lot of help... If we have to sign and play him at RT for an extended period of time this season I can guarantee that will not go well.

I'd also like Aaron Rodgers to make it a priority to run the offense as intended.

Good comment as usual TGR. Hanson struggled w/ snapping because he played in an offense where the only thing he did was shotgun snap. They had absolutely zero snaps under center. So that was completely foreigh to him.

Agree about Patrick. He's on the team because he can cover both OG and C. A players 2nd contract is generally a good indication of his ability. The fact he barely has a 1M per yr type contract speaks to his overall ability and play.

Britt would be a good sign but I doubt they can afford him. They are most likely kicking the tires of a play in case they have a need in the future and he's still available. Due dilligence, not much more at this point.