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Senior Bowl Highlights Packers Options With Two First Rounders

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Senior Bowl Highlights Packers Options With Two First Rounders

All 32 teams had their eyes on yesterday’s Senior Bowl as it was the final impression prospects could make for their future organizations in a game environment. Players practiced for three days during the week showcasing their abilities in front of scouts, coaches, and GMs who were all working on their draft boards. This week was especially huge for Green Bay who is in a unique position with two first round picks in April’s draft. While Saturday’s game didn’t feature a ton of top-end talent there was plenty of first-round potential on both rosters. Luckily for the Packers, there were a couple of standouts they can target with their own pick at 12 and the New Orleans Saints 30th overall pick. 

Montez Sweat, Mississippi State, Edge 

Height 6-6 Weight: 245

Sweat entered the week considered by many as a late first rounder. Now, after a week of dominating in one on ones against some of the top offensive linemen in the country, he could be off the board towards the middle of the first round. He put together a decent outing on Saturday but lost a few reps to Kansas State tackle Dalton Risner which could have dampened some of the buzz he generated earlier in the week. Still, Sweat will more than likely be gone toward the middle of day one of the draft. 

During his time at Mississippi State, Sweat racked up 30 tackles for loss and 22.5 sacks. He originally began his career with Michigan State but transferred due to lack of play and disciplinary problems. It didn’t take long for Sweat to regain his footing after he broke out in 2017 as one of the top pass rushers in the SEC with 10.5 sacks. He followed that up by earning first-team All-American and first-team All-SEC honors as a senior in 2018 finishing with 12 sacks and 14.5 tackles for loss. 

Currently, on the heels of a solid few days at the Senior Bowl, Sweat is inching up draft boards due to his ability to get after the quarterback and his awareness defending the run. He played defensive end in college but his play style may be best suited as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. Sweat is deceptively quick off the edge and he possesses enough hand strength and length to ward off would be blockers. The Packers are in serious need of an edge rusher who can do a little bit of everything and Sweat fits that mold perfectly. If Sweat is available with Green Bay’s first selection he will be hard to pass up. 

Deebo Samuel, South Carolina, Wide Receiver

Height: 5-11 Weight: 216

30th is probably a bit early for the receiver out of South Carolina, but Samuel may not be around for the Packers in the second round. Senior Bowl week almost felt like a one-man showcase for Samuel after he comfortably dominated in one on ones with his impressive route running and soft hands. He doesn’t have an imposing physique, however, his explosive footwork and ability to pluck balls away from his frame make up for lack of size. 

The Packers will soon be in search of a replacement for Randall Cobb and Samuel looks like an ideal fit. As a sophomore, he caught 59 passes for 783 yards and also displayed his shiftiness rushing for six touchdowns. Unfortunately, his junior season ended abruptly during the third game when he fractured his leg. Samuel returned to form as a senior in 2018 with 62 receptions, 882 yards, and 11 receiving touchdowns. 

All in all, Samuel looks perfect for Green Bay’s opening in the slot. He has a strong build and is capable of getting quick separation off the line of scrimmage. He was easily the most impressive route runner at the Senior Bowl considering the sharpness in his routes and attention to detail in his stems. A strong combine will certainly have everyone buzzing about the former Gamecock if they aren’t already. If all goes well, Samuel will be available in the second round but if receivers start to come off the board sooner than expected then the Packers may have to take a chance on him at the end of the first. 

With the offseason rapidly approaching Sweat and Samuel would satisfy two huge needs for Green Bay in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft. We should have a clearer scope at their draft projections in the coming months but the Packers pair of first rounders are looking better by the day. 

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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Monsmoy's picture

Whilst Deebo would be great to have, I really struggle to believe a WR is a priority pick. We have a stable of WRs, including 3 x rookies from 2018. The 2019 draft is strong on TE and it is obvious that the Packers failed to utilise this position during the 2018 season and we only have 2 (if Graham stays). Deep in quantity, there are purported to be only three Y TEs that can run/catch too. Hockenson and the 2 x Smiths and to get one of these we would need to pick no later than 44.

PAPackerbacker's picture

Agreed that a WR is not a top priority in the 2019 draft. For sure a top DE should be one of the first round picks. I would think that a TE or OL should be targeted or maybe even another DE in the top 44 picks. The Packers can get some top quality players in this years draft at their position of need. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out during the draft.

HankScorpio's picture

I'm totally on board with drafting a TE no later than 44. And a 2nd one by #118 (their 2nd 4th). If the Packers want to run the ball more, giving ML a decent 2 TE formation is a very big deal, IMO. As of today, they don't even have 1, IMO.

I'd also like to see 2 OL by that 118th pick for the same basic reason.

Rak47's picture

Agreed, I don't get the drafting of a WR sentiment that's going around. I'd argue that QB,WR, and CB are the 3 units the Packers need not address with additional personnel in the draft or FA this offseason.

4thand10's picture

Because all of the receivers after Adams are not available enough (Cobb) or they flat out suck. We absolutely need another clutch game type WR.

ShanghaiKid's picture

Agree with 4th and 10 here. If they let Cobb and Allison walk (I actually think Allison is likely to come back) that leaves an awfully thin margin of error for injuries or poor play from that position group.

WR is not as high a priority as say Edge or OL, but I think it comes in right behind those two position groups. A TE isn’t going to come in year one and light the world on fire, it just doesn’t happen.

HankScorpio's picture

I think TE is a bigger priority than WR. I agree that rook TEs face a learning curve. So do rook WRs. That's pretty much a wash, IMO.

They don't have a single TE that is worth a darn. I expect ML would use 2 or even 3 TEs looks if that was a legit option. I think it needs to be a major point of emphasis to try to get him that option.

Having said that, if a WR drops into their lap in the draft or vet FA, I hope they jump on it. With the way colleges are cranking out WR talent, I think there is a good chance that will happen in rounds 2-4.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

If Deebo is there at #44, you pick him because what's really needed is talent, not position. Now, my mind will freeze up if Deebo and Hockenson are there are #44, but that's more of a "you probably can't go wrong" situation.

At #12, I think there will be a pass rusher more than good enough to justify using that pick. Short of someone really dropping like Little or Williams, that probably ends up being an OLB. Again, pass-rushing OLBs only come in round 1. That's what history says, barring massive red flags.

At #30, again I think there will be multiple good prospects available at a variety of positions. We will have to wait for the combine to make sure guys are really that height and weight (see Burns, for example).

FA probably changes things as well. Some acquisitions probably don't change who or what position we draft, but some might.

Rak47's picture

So you actually believe the Packers are thinner at WR with ESB, MVS, Allison, Kumerow, Adams, and Moore, than they are at RB with the Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones with 3 ACL tears in 13 months? Even though the RB's take 3x the amount of punishment the WR's do? So drafting a WR should take priority over even having enough competent running backs on the roster to field the position on Sundays, much less drafting another difference maker in the backfield? Really? Seriously? Last time I checked LaFluer and Hackett both predicate their passing game on the ability to run the ball effectively which they both did at a rate of over 55% of the time on first down alone. I like Deebo but at 44 if Josh Jacobs is available you take him and pass on Deebo. Especially if they bring in a slot like Jamison Crowder in FA. It doesn't matter who your WR's are if you can't scare or threaten anyone on the ground the passing game will be a disappointment again. And while TE's and WR's face a tough learning curve RB's don't nearly as much. Just look at Aaron Jones, Alvin Kamara, Phillip Lindsey, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michel just over the pat two years. All dynamic backs in their own rights that contributed 'immediately" to their teams.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

What an aggressive reply. If you're done imputing beliefs to me, I'd be happy to discuss this. We're talking about 2 prospects who most likely won't be there at pick #44 in Hockenson and Jacobs, and one who probably won't (after the Senior Bowl) be there either in Deebo Samuel. If these three were there at #44, that would be a wonderful problem to have.

Of the three, I'd choose Hockenson. If we cut Graham, we'll be very thin at TE, much thinner there than at RB. Hockenson should help both the pass and the run game, something Graham won't even if he returns. As a caveat, there are a couple of intriguing mid-round TEs, but I am not sure if they last to #75, and probably not to 107 (which probably will be 115 or so after compensatory picks are added to the end of the third round).

I like Jacobs' balance and that he doesn't have tons of mileage on him. I am curious about his top end speed, but it should be good enough. I covet Deebo's route-running, a prerequisite in GB. I've moved him up on the board because of it.

I'd like to wait for the combine before getting into serious arguments about the draft. And of course, GB might sign a FA TE, OL (if Cody Ford, Cajuste, or Edwards were available at #44, would that change things for you?) or a WR, or (Heaven Forfend) re-sign Cobb.

Rak47's picture

Sorry TGR for any misunderstanding. But I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to Shanghaikid. But I agree with the post you just made. honestly I'll be happy if Gute just drafts some solid players. I don't think for a second he's going to draft based on what I'm saying, lol. It's just my opinion on what I'd do in his shoes.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

That makes more sense. So you didn't impute belief to me and I do see that Shanghai makes his belief clear. Oops on my part.

I just read the Keep Cobb? article. I liked dobber's comment and your's was kind of similar, IIRC. The offense also needs fixing (though it is closer to having what it needs than the D). It isn't just tweaking AR. It needs another weapon. It can be a running back, or a slot receiver, or a TE. We could keep our fingers crossed that Jones and Williams stay healthy, but another RB at some point seems a must.

The offense also needs one OG and a RT. I'd prefer to have an option to Bulaga after the 2019 season.

Rak47's picture

I think were on the same page pretty much. I can't disagree with any of that.

The TKstinator's picture

You had me at “impute”, as in: “Something does not impute, Will Robinson!”

carlos's picture

Agree with you thegrest...

HankScorpio's picture

"So you actually believe the Packers are thinner at WR with ESB, MVS, Allison, Kumerow, Adams, and Moore, than they are at RB with the Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones with 3 ACL tears in 13 months? "

For me, it's more like I believe the least important factor in running game production is the talent of the guy actually carrying the ball. The biggest factor, by far, is the o-line and blocking. 2nd is a playcaller that keeps the defense guessing wrong on run or pass. If those two factors are in the run game's favor, you can find RBs that will produce anywhere.

All those "dynamic" backs you list run behind fantastic o-lines. It's not a coincidence. It's cause and effect. Those teams have other RBs that produce. You mention Alvin Kamara. I say Ryan Ramczyk was the more important draft choice for the Saints run game. Sony Michel might be the 3rd best RB on his team.

The team that have superior o-line are going to undercover 'hidden gems' RBs with regularity. The team that chases after RBs that can make a difference while letting blocking slide is going to be looking for a long time. Because very few RBs can make something out of nothing. And literally 100s of them can make something out of big holes and wide running lanes.

Adding OL early has a much better bang for the buck when it comes to improving the run game than adding RBs early.

fthisJack's picture

my hope is they can bring Golden Tate in as a slot receiver. the guy gets open, catches everything, and has RATC. that would plug a hole on the offense and free up a need during the draft.

ShanghaiKid's picture

@fthisjack Bearmeat and I had a similar conversation in another thread. Kills two birds with one stone, fills the slot hole, and also becomes the defacto #2 it'd be a great signing.

Rak47's picture

Of course Hank, but whether you think RB is important or not doesn't change the fact the Packers have only 2 backs under contract. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I look at the teams in the playoffs and only 2 teams had average backs in Houston and Indy. And where are they now? The Rams have Gurley, and yeah Hank their line is great and McVay's a genius so anyone can do what Gurley does in L.A. They could pick up a street FA and get the same production I'm sure. Then we go to N.E. and the two players absolutely dominating and carrying the team on offense in James White and Sony Michel. Personally I'll never understand why the great Bill Belechik used a first round pick on Michel when he could get the same things he needed from a street FA now that I know anyone can be a great RB behind a good O-line. Now let's get to the team who was robbed of the SB appearance in N.O. where they have Kamara, and Ingram, yet again another team that wasted high round picks on difference makers when they could've gotten the same production from street FA. Maybe if they had spent their picks on more O-line depth and WR's the game wouldn't have been close enough for the refs to help the Rams? Idk, just saying. Btw Hank you're assuming that it's always the lines run blocking that makes the RB look good when in reality it's the great RB's that make their average lines look good most of the time. Every year we also see RB's have great years when their entire team is 6-10, 4-12 or whatever because their lines suck [ ie; Saquon Barkley, C. McCafrey ] both first rd picks btw. Just because you can run and hold a football doesn't qualify anyone as a difference maker.

HankScorpio's picture

"Of course Hank, but whether you think RB is important or not doesn't change the fact the Packers have only 2 backs under contract. "

As Mr Miyagi once said "Afraid facts mixed up". Kapri Bibbs, Jamal Williams, Aaron Jones, Tra Carson and Lavon Coleman are listed as under contract for 2019. You may not think much of 3 of those 5 but then again, no NFL talent evaluator thought much of Philip Lindsey either.

And it's not just me that de-values RBs. It's been a trend among the professionals that assemble NFL teams for years. A well-known trend that has been much discussed. I'm comfortable embracing that trend,

Rak47's picture

Lmao, and so is the Janitor under contract, maybe we could get him to play RB Hank. After all he only needs is a good o-line right?

HankScorpio's picture

What's his 40 time?

Rak47's picture

Kudos, Hank!

Rak47's picture

Also Hank PFF ranks the best O-lines every year using very technical formulas to uncover all aspects of a lines performance. Some of the rankings are 1.Eagles 2. Browns 3. Steelers 4. Titans 5. Bears 6. Falcons 7. Raiders 8. Packers 9. Cowboys 10. Bills . How many difference makers in that top 10 at RB other than Zeke? 16. Saints 18. Rams 19. Pats. Well 3 teams in the Championship games with average lines and high draft pick RB's making the line look good while they dominated. 21. Chargers 25. Broncos 28. Giants 31. Bengals 32. Hawks. Now we get to the worst lines in the league that all had great years by RB's in which all but 1 of them was a high draft pick. Sorry Hank but a good offensive line is not the reason dynamic backs produce as you can see from many of the teams on this list and their RB's

ShanghaiKid's picture

Rak First off, Jones never tore his ACL lol. He sprained his MCL and ACL not coincidentally twice on CHI's crappy turf, big difference between a sprain and a tear. If you go back and look at the response to 4th/10, I never said WR was or wasn't thinner than RB. I mentioned I'd prioritize WR behind Edge and OL.

While LaFleur was OC for the Titans. They ran the ball on 51% of their plays for a total of 454 attempts. By comparison (depending on what site you look at) the Packers ran the ball on 35% of their plays for a total of 333 attempts. If you believe the Packers will run the ball 51% of their snaps in 2019. It's an increase in 121 carries, which breaks down to 4 carries each to Jones and Williams over a 16 game season. It's a negligible difference in workload. Do they need to add a RB to the room for depth, yes no doubt.

Your logic is flawed and the stats prove it. Even in a run heavy offense that LaFleur coordinated Tajae Sharp played 9 less snaps than Dion Lewis their #1 RB and Taywan Taylor outsnapped Henry. Don't mistake quantity of receivers for quality. Just because you have guys like Kumerow and Moore on the roster doesn't mean they're good.

You're also ignoring guys like Julio, Green, Thomas, Evans, Keenan Allen, OBJ, heck even Ridley and Cooper who came in first year and made an impact. RB's are a dime a dozen, you can go out and find guys in the mid-late rounds or even UDFA like Lindsay and make a difference.

Rak47's picture

"I never said WR was or wasn't thinner than RB. I mentioned I'd prioritize WR behind Edge and OL." What a novel Idea Shanghai, let's prioritize a unit we spent at least 8 draft Picks on in the last 4-5 years while ignoring a thin and injured unit where we drafted 3 players in the last 5 years, lol. you prioritize your weakest link not one of strength. No one in NFL circles is confusing the Packers RB's unit as even one of the best units on their team much less in the league. I mean damn how many WR's do you need to draft before you figure it out? They drafted 3 more just last year. Let's draft one high so he can get beat out by most of the receivers we already have like MVS, ESB, Allison, Moore, and Adams and he can ride the pine and contribute in 2020 or 2021. It quite literally seems the Packers only draft O-line, DB's and WR's while everything else is an after thought sprinkled in here and there.

ShanghaiKid's picture

"It quite literally seems the Packers only draft O-line, DB's and WR's while everything else is an after thought sprinkled in here and there."

The fact you included OL tells me you don't know anything about this team. Since the 2012 draft the Packers have drafted 7 lineman. Datko, Tretter, Bakh, Linsley, Spriggs, Murphy, Madison. In comparison RB/FB has been drafted 6 times. So they draft the backfield about as frequently as OL. You're talking out of your ass.

Rak47's picture

First off I said it seems, I never said it was fact. But since you want to act like a know it all a quick fact check on profootballrefernce shows you left out Caleb Schlauderaff, Derrick Sherrod, and Kofi Amechi. Stop trying to cherry pick years. I noticed you cut of at 2012 because the Packers drafted a few in 2011. No one said jack about fullback genius but you. They were never part of the convo you just added them to make a point but you sound stupid. In reality the Packers have drafted 5 rb's since 2014 Eddie Lacy, Johnathan Franklin, Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams and Devante Mays and 6 since 2011 if you count Alex Green. If you hadn't noticed bright guy only 2 are with the team still, and the team only ever got any production from 3 of them with Lacy producing the most. Great production wouldn't you say seeing how RB's are a dime a dozen, lmao. But yeah genius we should prioritize WR because AR throwing on average for 4500yds and 35 TD's will go up significantly with a rookie wideout added to the 7 we have already under contract. And while we drafted 6 RB's since 2011 we have drafted 13 WR's and 12 Db's the most by any position since the Pack last won a SB in 2011 with O-line having 10 drafted which is 4th most behind D-line. If you're going to correct someone you should get your facts straight first. And if you don't know football you should keep your uneducated comments to yourself that way no one knows how clueless you really are. Also, stop talking out your ass yourself and get your facts right.

ShanghaiKid's picture

I’m sorry, my memory is a little hazy, did Rip never receive a single carry? Was he never in pass-pro? Did I split hairs because they share the same meeting room and have the same responsibilities. Yes. Glad we got that out of the way.

I love how accuse me of cherry picking years. How about you cherry picking players. Bringing up guys like Schlauderaff and Amichia who didn’t play a single snap in GB. And in case you hadn’t noticed bright guy, there’s only 3 of 9 lineman drafted since 2011 still on the roster. Get your facts right and come correct. I still have yet to hear how the extra 121 carries split between 2 backs spread across 16 games requires a game breaking RB. Dunce.

Rak47's picture

I'm done, you really are obstinate. Wth does whether they played a snap or not have to do with them being drafted? You do know the Packers don't get the draft picks back if they don't play a single snap, right? lol. A FB is a FB and a HB is a HB. The discussion was about rushers /HB's not blockers/FB's. If you think 2 backs are going to make it through the entire season, and one has already missed a half of season worth of games and ending up on IR at least once in his first two years there's only one dunce you need worry about, and his handle starts with Shang and ends with kid. I would call you a troll but that truly would be an insult to all Trolls worldwide. Once you become Shanghaiman, come back and we'll talk kid.

Rak47's picture

"RB's are a dime a dozen, you can go out and find guys in the mid-late rounds or even UDFA like Lindsay and make a difference." Honestly that's a pathetic argument that someone in the league came up with because they don't want to pay RB's big bucks when their average careers are so short [4 years avg] from all the punishment they take. And I see you swallowed it hook line and sinker. An even weaker argument is using Philip Lindsey, lol. The only RB in the history of the league to make the pro bowl as an undrafted rookie. Lmao, yeah you can find a Lindsey under any rock in each round. But as you can see the league only turns those rocks over every 100 years or so. I hate to say you sound like you don't much about football if you think you're going to find a Zeke, Gurley, Gordon, Bell, McCaffrey, Michel, Chubb, Gore, Ingram or anyone of their caliber in the Middle rounds in every draft. They were all picked very early for a reason and it's no coincidence they all except Gore are the elite young backs in the league. There were 8 drafted RB's this year who finished with over 1000yds and the only single one who wasn't a 1st or second round pick was Chris Carson who went after TT drafted Devante Mays in the 7th round. Oops another TT blunder, but yeah quality RB's are a dime a dozen. Sure they are.

ShanghaiKid's picture

I think it's funny you praise how dynamic Kamara is in one post, but go out of your way to leave him out of your argument because he doesn't fit the narrative you're going for. He was drafted 3rd round, finished with 1000 more yards from scrimmage than Ingram the past two years, and is a top 10 back in the league. You're a clown, go back back under the bridge troll.

Rak47's picture

Oh little boy you can stop now I concede, there's an Alvin Kamara waiting in the third round of every draft under the rock just like there's a Philip Lindsey in every UDFA class. You got me, great points kiddo! I must confess your knowledge of the game is too deep for me.

ShanghaiKid's picture

Backpedaling faster than Revis cause I called you on your BS context, FOH Rak.

The TKstinator's picture

Two first rounders could be Tony Bennett/Darrel Thompson Part 2.
Or even better!
I think that was the last time GB had two first rounders.
I definitely think we all agree on the areas of need, but not necessarily in what order. What I’m REALLY hoping for is GB to add some real talent, even if I don’t agree “positionally” at the time of the selections.

Hawg Hanner's picture

We do need to get better at WR but there is a solid base to build on and if you do want to pick one in the draft I hope it is a later round and a guy who is bigger and can win the jump balls. I think the additional first round pick should be an OT or safety

Turophile's picture

I don't think Sweat gets around the corner well enough, we'll see how stiff he is at the combine. I listened to what Tony Pauline had to say about him, ie not a first round pick, He said he was a great college player who (he thought) would struggle in the NFL, he had him as a high second rounder. Heck. I'd rather bank on hoping Burns could put on enough weight to be effective in the NFL. I'd be ok with Sweat at #30, but not #12.

At this time I'd prefer to go with Polite (who to be fair has his own character issues). Ferrell is even better, if he should fall (I doubt he does), but the Ferrells and Ed Olivers at #12 are more a dream than reality.

i wouldn't go WR with pick 30 either, let the young guys the Packers already have there develop another year, to see what they can do and (if necessary) go there in 2020. I'd roll with OT Andre Dillard (Wash. St.), the best looking tackle at the Senior Bowl, at pick 30.

In round three I could happily go for OG Chris Lindstrom (may require a move up to the top of the round), and you have the makings for a superb O line to protect Rodgers in his latter years. however, that round three has plenty of good prospects, so if the Packers could manoeuvre to get two third rounders, it would be excellent. An alternative to Lindstrom in round three, is OG Javon Patterson (Mississippi) in round 4

That leaves (free) safety and TE to address. I'd like Mike Bell (Safety, Fresno St.), but he also looks like a third rounder and we might have used that, maybe he'll slide to round 4. If Nasir Adderley slips to round 2 (he's undersized, so he might) or Chauncey Gardner-Johnson is there as an alternative to Bell in the third, I'd go with any of them as free safeties, most safeties this year look more like the SS type, but these guys look like they could handle a roving free safety role.

The Packers would need a good veteran free agent safety as well, to round out that position group......and it wouldn't be stupid to grab a THIRD safety, a developmental one, late in the draft.

In my scenario, TEs end up being pushed down to a later pick, so don't expect anything flash. Even so, there are a number of solid TEs who are not serious downfield threats, but good at everything else, someone like Drew Sample (Washington).

AgrippaLII's picture

I enjoyed your comment...well thought out and makes a lot of sense!

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

T,
Agreed!

Unless there is an all world WR that has fallen and rated significantly higher than #30 I preferably want another edge rusher, or an OL at this spot. One pass rusher is not enough and the Pack should have learned this during Clay's best day's. If we had a 2nd great pass rusher Clay would have been significantly more successful IMO.

I think it is hard to draft big bodies high on both sides of the line because it is way sexier to draft big name QB's, WR's, and RB's, but build the front 7 on defense and OL.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

I very much agree with most of what you've said, but I'm hoping/targeting a safety (Adderley or Thornhill) at 44, with consideration at 30 if my higher-ranked guys are gone. I'm not taking a OL at 12/30/44 unless I have a REALLY high opinion of him compared to whoever else is still on the board, and that seems unlikely to me. I'm still hoping for a free agent RG pickup. I could take a TE anywhere from 30 (Hockenson/Smith/Fant) on, depending on who else is there. I see this year's TE group as strong in the middle rounds, so I'd be fine with one in the 4th or later. As far as receiver, I'm not sold on our roster, and there are quite a few really good WRs in this draft--Metcalf is currently in my Top-12 even. I'd also be tempted to get one of the scatback RBs as high as the 3rd. My real wish is that Devin White drops to 12, but I'm pretty sure Detroit will take him. :(

Rak47's picture

The Packers have done well for years drafting offensive lineman in the middle rounds. They now also have noted offensive line guru and former Ravens National scout Milt Hendrickson's expertise in the building. I think they will do well to pick up 3 lineman in the middle rounds and use their higher picks on defense and skill positions.

CheesyTex's picture

Rak,

A possible wild card is Nico Siragusa. Has all the measurables and Ravens took him in 4th round under Hendrickson's watch. They also thought enough of him to keep him on practice squad while recovering from serious injuries (ACL, MCL, and PCL as I understand). A healthy Siragusa could be a huge boost to the OL.

And, maybe, they know something about Cole Madison...

Just wishin'.

Rak47's picture

You're correct. I recently read an article that stated that Gute is expecting Cole Madison in camp this year. Maybe that expectation along with Sirgusa on the mend combined with Taylor on the mend is why Gute declared he likes his guards as a unit?

The TKstinator's picture

Linemen. All day.

stockholder's picture

Your draft ? J [email protected], I say LG. @30 Risner C- RT @44 Future all-pro- Lindstrom RG!!! @73 scharping Back up- Any where! These are the best Lineman after the Senior Bowl, that would fit the packers. Unless your thinking of replacing Bahk. ( Which is a No) Anyone would be a steal after the selection. You can watch film on U tube.

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

Rak,
You make a great argument!

I still like big bodies on line but always open to a great player falling to us and taking them regardless of position. Would be awesome picking up a couple starters in FA. Particularly at OL and safety.

Rak47's picture

Imho, Gute should try to sign at least one starter in FA to play on the right side. Someone like Donovan Smith or Ju'Wuan James, then add 2-3 more O-lineman in the draft to improve depth. On offense I think he needs to address the line, TE, and RB. On defense OLB/Edge, and Safety. Quality players at any other position is a bonus. If he can fill all those needs I will be completely impressed by his work.

HankScorpio's picture

"In round three I could happily go for OG Chris Lindstrom (may require a move up to the top of the round), "

I'd run the card up to the podium if Lindstrom is available at 75. I seriously doubt I would need running shoes, tho. I think he'll be gone by then if half of what i've read about his is correct.

stockholder's picture

Lindstrom and Kisner moved up. I say Kisner early, early, rd.2 lindsrtom middle to late. Most packer fans are looking for a TE here. The lions have the pick before. They will beat the packers to any Te in the 2nd rd.

Otto's picture

PFF said the same thing about Sweat. They also said Ms St used a lot of line rotation so his legs were fresh late in the game. A lot of his production came late in games because of it. They said Dalton Risner made him disappear.
I'm okay with OL, pass rush, safety, TE in 1st round.

CalPacker's picture

Excellent, Turophile. You obviously were paying attention at the Senior Bowl! Did you catch Voch Lombardi's YouTube breakdowns on the OL/DL one-on-ones? The guys who really stuck out to me were Lindstrom, Collier, and Omenihu. I'm really not a fan of Sweat, Burns or Polite--can anybody point to a single example on tape of ANY of these guys fighting off a block to make a play? All three of them are superb athletes, but football-wise none of them seem to have any fight or craft in them... Collier and Omenihu? Well, that's an entirely different story, as was confirmed in their disruptive play during the game...

Packer Fan's picture

The wide receiver I liked was Isabella from the north. Looks like a good slot receiver. Quick with an ability to break tackles. Scored on a WR screen and then on another pass in the flat was wide open and tip toed down the sideline for a good gain.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

I agree; I think Isabella is going to be a great pro. He is sort of a if-Jordy-and-Randall-had-a-baby player. He seems very hyper-aware, the kind of guy who always finds the opening and always makes the catch, then makes the first guy miss. I'd grab him with a 3rd or 4th round pick if he is available.

sonomaca's picture

Body catcher with small hands. Not going to work in the chill of GB.

Rak47's picture

I guess you didn't see that property of New England Patriots shirt he was wearing, lol. He will get snatched up by them and Belechik will make it happen, just watch. He will be their next slot receiver to replace Edelman who replaced Welker.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

I couldn't agree more, Rak. Isabella screams "Future Patriot." I wouldn't be surprised to see them take him at the end of round 2.

Pilprin's picture

There are very few positions that the Packers do not need an upgrade. Although I would find it nearly unthinkable that a OLB type would not be selected in round one (heck I might take 2) this team has a lot of holes and need impact players. There are few game changers on this team. This team needs to take best player available. There are no sure fire OLBs, but there are DL that are. Maybe we go DL in round 1 and take the WR approach (3 in the draft) to the OLB position. I wouldn’t be too upset about that. Remember Petine prefers pressure up the middle.

It will be interesting on how things shake out, but’s lots of time ahead.

IshpemingPackAttack's picture

I want me some T.J. Hockenson. He seems like the perfect fit for the Packers. He also seems to have that fire in his belly that true football players have because they just love to play the game.

phillythedane's picture

Brandon C., thank you for the analysis. I enjoyed it.

Brandon Carwile's picture

Thank you! And you’re welcome!

HankScorpio's picture

I was trying to find out the OL groups on the field for the 2nd half, when the scoring went nuts, particularly with the North. That kind of offensive outbursts (4 TDs & 1 FG on 5 drives) does not happen without good OL play. The South cranked things up in the 4th with 2 TDs

With 10 OL on each roster, it makes sense there would have been one set for each half but I found no confirmation of that. I read Garrett Bradbury, Chris Lidstrom and Dalton Risner were the right side of the North line on at least one 3d Q drive. I think Michael Deiter was LG. I'd love to see a detailed look at the guys up front. It's a big area of need for the Packers, IMO.

CalPacker's picture

Hey Hank, go to Voch Lombardi's YouTube breakdown of the Senior Bowl OL/DL one-on-ones...if you're like me, you'll come away with a pretty clear idea of the pecking order, which was only confirmed by the in-game performances of guys like Lindstrom, Collier and Omenihu...

EddieLeeIvory's picture

I wish the Draft was sooner.

Congratulations to the great Novak Djokovic.

Gort's picture

2019 Packers draft must be all about O-line. If someone else wants a WR at 30th, then trade down. No reaches, no basketball player projects that have great potential, no long shots.

dobber's picture

"2019 Packers draft must be all about O-line."

Depends on what they do in FA.

Gort's picture

There is only 1 team in the league that lets good O-linemen leave for free agency and we all know who that is.

Turophile's picture

@Gort. No pass rush, no TE, no safety ?

O line is important but it isn't "all about them". The 'good news' is that the multiple, fairly acute needs, means there is a good chance of taking one of the best available prospects when it's their turn to pick.

Gort's picture

Never said all draft picks should be O-linemen. The article talked about a an edge guy, which is a need, but also a WR. Never mentioned our biggest NEED, which IMO is O-line. 2018 draft took 3 WR and 1 O-lineman and 2019 must be different. WR just might be our deepest position, so I am not really interested in a guy projected as a 2nd with the recommendation that we take him in the first. We need solid players, no projects, no reaches, no basketball players that have great potential.

stockholder's picture

It's a defensive draft. Yet I feel it's on paper ,scheme, and hype. This is going to be a crap shoot on a pass rusher. And I'm not willing to throw away the pick @12. I think Wilkerson or T. Williams should be replaced first. The game is still won in the trench. Oliver/,Simmons would be my choice. But the character of each is an issue. And so is Daniels contract. If you want the pass rusher; Sweat is good. Josh Allen is better. Ferrel more physical, and Polite is the Packers fit. I think the combine time is the only way you can take one @12. I want a sure thing. Are we out to win the draft or football games? Who is the football player? My choice @12 is Simmons. The drop off on pass rusher isn't as great after watching the senior Bowl. And it will take at least a couple of years for any of them to develop. Desmond Bishop was picked way late by TT. I believe if Pettine is that good, they'll find a Bishop or pass rusher. Without questions and less of a gamble. Show me clay Mathews, or Pass!

CalPacker's picture

I agree, Simmons is best, but he's probably gone at 12. But more importantly, I really hope we can trade down with the Redskins at 15 in return for an extra 3rd round pick--and maybe even trade AGAIN with somebody like KC to get their extra 2nd round pick? After watching lots of tape and stuff like Voch Lombardi's Senior Bowl breakdown, I'd be more than happy to pile up on names like Lindstrom, Omenihu and Collier. The hyped players in the mid-1st round really don't jump off the screen the way some of the Senior Bowl standouts did, particularly the ones in the trenches... check out Voch Lombardi's Senior Bowl one-on-ones on YouTube, see what you think...

PackEyedOptimist's picture

I will forever be a "trade down" fan, because you ALWAYS get more value that way (the people trading up HAVE to offer better-than-average value for someone to make a deal). I'd even be completely onboard with trading #30 for a team's #1 next year plus this year's 2nd.

fthisJack's picture

I agree with the trade down rather than the trade up. look how it worked out for Gute last year. he got his guy and NO first round pick. if he could do that again I would be happy as a tick on a dog.

and I would draft BPA and don't reach for need early in the draft. the edge rushers that are mocked at #12 are not #12 material that I can see. Sweat, Polite, Burns all have question marks. they probably can be had later in the first round.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

Simmons often plays like "a man among boys," but I don't think I could pull the trigger on such a character risk at 12. What's your opinion on Zach Allen? He honestly looks like Rasham Gary on tape, both of whom would really improve the front 7 for the Packers. They don't LOOK like Simmons, but they pretty much have similar impacts in games.

stockholder's picture

Hitting a woman. Bad! But it didn't stop a RB draftee. TT brought him in. The thing about the pass rushers going in the first round is; Their 40 times! I've seen postings, and none are in the 4.5s. Their all close to 4.6 and up. And they still have to bulk up yet! Polite the guy so many want; Is 4.67. OLB? Look at Nick Perrys 40, Cm3, even mack. All 4.5s!!! True it's not the combine yet. But this is another slow Forty class. Kids that are Jrs and going to get slower. Yes the track can be helpful. Field speed is what you want. The kids that are 4.5- 4.6 are mocked near the top 10. Which makes the gamble that much tougher. I'm taking Simmons and moving on from Wilkerson. But Truthfully he may not be there @12.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Perry ran a 4.64, albeit at 271 pounds.
CM3 ran a 4.67 (4.58 pro day) at 240 pounds.
Khalil Mack ran a 4.65 (4.55 pro day) at 251 pounds.

I always add .05 or so to pro day times.

PeteK's picture

Risner, who was mentioned in article, would be my 30 or 44 pick. He played center for a season and then T for most of his college career.

HankScorpio's picture

Risner would slot in atop the RG depth chart, with the option to swing out to RT if Bulaga was hurt. I'd love to see him be a Packer.

stockholder's picture

I would take Risner too. But Gute likes are OL. I don't. I'd draft the trenches. Sign FA's elsewhere. I'm saying Risner, Lindstrom, Bradbury, and McGary in the second to third comps now. But thats not going to happen. Gone Perry, Mathews, Cobb, Graham,Wilkerson? Replacements first.

fthisJack's picture

what else would Gute say? my OL sucks and we need to upgrade it in this draft?

The TKstinator's picture

Another reason I miss Ron Wolf; so little of the ”GMspeak” that so many use nowadays.

stockholder's picture

Ron Wolf was good!

The TKstinator's picture

He was blunt and open, and he was critical of himself as well. He also was confident but admitted his mistakes. I miss that whole style.

stockholder's picture

Ok lets be Ron Wolf. Wolf said you build a team with Ots, Cbs, first. He traded for Favre. Built the DL with FAs. . In 1996 We had 8 DL. These Des= White, Sean Jones, and Wilkins,Clavelle. Dts = G.Brown,Santana Dotson, Holland, Kuberski. Safeties= E. Robinson Butler. Let's just face it. TT was no Wolf. So we have the Cbs, Bahk, and a part timer in Bulaga. Where is the DL or Safeties? You have 2 Starters in clark and Daniels. And people want a pass Rusher to replace who? Reggie White or CM3? Different Defense? yes, we went 3-4-4. I'm Wolf!! If Gute follows Wolf. Replace the safeties. Thomas , and Collins should be the FA Targets. Not a Rookie!! So Ha Ha Dix was a TT mistake. (Thinking like Wolf). The packers must stay with T. Williams, and possible move a cb like they did with Butler, to S. Or spend away$$. Breeland would be a good signing if one got moved. Still thinking like Wolf? Draft the DL. You can't get that good DL in FAs. Wayne Simmons was Wolfs best LB, koonce inside, McKenzie. Still 7 here. Are best LB now is Martinez. Wolf would change this. - I believe Wolf would trade Perry or Frackwell for a starting RG! Don't draft this position early. Most Guards are 2nd rd. Picks. @12 BPA for defense @30. He would take a LB @44 He'd move up and take another OLb. Even if it cost him! TE's He'd give Graham a second chance and draft another. So if I'm Wolf. @12 Target- Josh Allen, Pick - Simmons, Sweat, Polite @30 Target- Burns, Pick- D. Bush Lb D. Lawrence NT @44 Pick- Target , Mack Wilson ILB. /// Harris RB Lindstrom G @76 Jace sternberger TE. Wolf would take defense. If Gute doesn't. He's no wolf.

PeteK's picture

Risner, who was mentioned in article, would be my 30 or 44 pick. He played center for a season and then T for most of his college career.

D Ernie's picture

I don't think the top players played. Many high first round prospects passed to avoid injury.
Most of these guys aren't 1-12 material.
I think the team needs a lot of skill players. Cobb may need to stay, too many shoes to fill

Lphill's picture

I would like Sweat and Adderley in the first round that improves the defense instantly , then the best tight end in the 2 Nd round. Then after that you solidify the O line and other positions depth .

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

Lphill,
Good thoughts as well. I see many good directions people point out. Pack have so many needs. I am thinking draft BPA rather than BPA in area of needs.

jww061356's picture

I would love a dream scenario; EDGE(Burns or Ferrell before Polite) Hockenson or Fant @ 30, and then Risner or [email protected] 44. If both of those are on the board, move up and try to grab the other. I know I'm dreaming, but if we found a way to package picks and get an big time EDGE, Hockenson, Adderly and Risner or Dillard, we could go BPA the rest of the way. Then we move Jackson to Safety, get another IOL and and slot receiver in the middle rounds. I know, I know, I'm dreaming, but it's still fun.

sonomaca's picture

Polite and Fant character concerns

Jared's picture

Are any of the top six players in this years draft worthy of the Packers using #12 & #30 to move up to get??

Brandon Carwile's picture

I’d say Kentucky’s Edge Josh Allen is the only conceivable prospect to trade up for

Rak47's picture

He would have to be available at #4 for the Packers to trade up. The 4th pick is worth 1800 points while the 12th is worth 1200 and the 30th is worth 620 according to NFL trade chart values. I personally wouldn't do it as the Packers have too many needs and there will be solid pass rushers/edge defenders available at 12. It's not worth giving away the 30th pick, who also should be an excellent player for the Packers for years to come.

HankScorpio's picture

With this Packer roster, I think the bigger issue is the middle of the depth chart than the top of it. They have enough star power. They have too many holes. I'd be more interested in going down than up.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

I would not trade #s 12 and 30 for ANYONE this year. I'd only make that trade to move up for a QB, if I had the need. Nick Bosa will PROBABLY be great, but I'd take TWO potential Pro-Bowlers for him every time. At least you're not one injury away from "empty."

Handsback's picture

Brandon, good work! I think the two guys you mentioned were the best long term prospects at the Senior Bowl.
Being said, doesn't mean either will be Packer picks.
I'm with stockholder in Simmons/Oliver for that 12 pick. Both can and have rushed the passers and can clog the middle. Teamed w/Clark would make a formidable duo.

North-Hudson's picture

The Packers will draft Nasir Adderley in the first round! The Adderley legend will again roam Lambeau Field! #26GOATJR

Skip greenBayless's picture

I believe that was Swisch's dream as well.

Dash

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

North Hudson
You go to the Village Inn?

Wilment's picture

Though I agree Samuel would be a nice fit for the Packers in the slot, I just see him as a bit of a stretch as a first rounder. I see him going mid to late second round. The Packers if they go for a pass rusher in the first round may have to settle for Sweat with the better ones gone by the time they pick. Its early yet though, we need to see what our Gm and coach have in mind....

Handsback's picture

BTW.....does Samuel remind anyone else of a WR from SC with similar size and speed?

Tundraboy's picture

Wasn't Sterling taller?

Handsback's picture

I think Sterling was 5' 11" or 6'. If there's a difference it's arm length. Either way, he plays a lot like Sterling Sharpe.

byu.tech's picture

WR???????????
are you crazy??????
we need edge safety and o linemen.
we drafted 3 WR last year...that´s enough

4thand10's picture

Everyone here makes it sound like we have 3 late round Donald Drivers behind Adams....which is NOT the case. I’d even argue taking a top RB early.

HankScorpio's picture

Maybe they are 3 late round gems that will produce. Maybe they are guys like Jarret Boykin, that flash a little but never take a solid step beyond that. I can see both sides of the argument. It's just too early to tell.

I would like to see them hedge their bets with a talented WR addition. I'd be ok if that didn't happen. I would not be ok if they walked out of this draft without a TE and OL by the end of rnd 4. And really, 2 of each is better than one of each, IMO. I don't think ML has the tools to run the kind of offense he says he wants to run. Years and years of heavy emphasis on adding defense have left the offensive talent razor thin.

Swigganz's picture

Baised on injury history alone, I don't see Deebo as a 1st round pick..he is likely a talented 2nd day guy. I could see GB surprising people and taking a slot receiver early. LaFleur's offense utilizes the slot often...but I would think if they did it early, it would be Hollywood Brown if they took one in the 1st...Otherwise if they wait there will be quite a few available prospects in the middle rounds and FA. Personally I see GB considering Risner as a replacement for Bulaga at tackle and a pass rusher like Ferrell, Polite, Allen or Sweat...but we will see.

PackEyedOptimist's picture

One of the guys that hasn't gotten his due, in my opinion, in the online draft analyses, is Zach Allen from Boston College. He plays like a clone of Rasham Gary (and is the exact same size). With Mike Daniels aging and coming off an injury, I think a great DE will be more valuable than a great OLB. (One little dream scenario for me has Gary getting picked at 12 and Allen getting picked at 30).

arthurl's picture

I am hoping Packers use their early round picks to fix their OL. They definitely need to go edge with one of those first rounders, but need to select tackle depending whose available at #12. They would be smart to go OG in 2nd if there's player on their board. I would go either RB, safety, or TE in 3rd. They need to try and lock down their OL once and for all.

4thand1's picture

We have 2 picks in the 1st round.

The TKstinator's picture

I don’t.

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