Packers Vs. Bears: First Impressions

My immediate thoughts on the Packers - Bears game without benefit of a re-watch.

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It's going to be real interesting to see what the Packers running game looks like tonight...
 
- Ty Montgomery takes the first snap at RB, then Don Jackson.
- On the first drive, what's not working is the slower developing play action passes. What IS working is the quick routes in the 5-8yd area.
- Speaking of which, Packers go for it on 4th and three. Simple 5yd pass to Jordy who just runs at the DB and turns around. Ball is there as he turns. First Down. Drive continues. Simple. 
- Gunter blanketing Alshon Jeffrey so far. Hoyer's first completion a 25yd pass beating Demetri Goodson. We're going to hear Goodson's name a lot tonight.
- Rodgers with ten pass attempts on first drive. Another eight on second drive. 
- McCarthy being aggressive on 4th downs here, and it's the right move. All or nothing against a weak opponent.
- Don Jackson headed to the locker room and questionable to return. Are you kidding me?
- Packers with 12 plays inside the thirty and no TDs. 30 pass attempts by Rodgers.
 
Packers lead 6-3 at halftime. A real barnburner.
 
- Wow. Rodgers fumble into the end zone. TD Bears.
- Knile Davis see his first snap. Rodgers verbally tells him what to do on the play after they break huddle and line up.
- Davante Adams with what might of been the best catch of his career so far. Poorly thrown back shoulder pass, reaches over defender and makes catch with defender's arm betwen his two arms.
- McCarthy wins a challenge!
- Rodgers finally getting into a rhythm. 
- Davante Adams again hauls in an inaccurate pass from Rodgers in the end zone for his second TD of the game.
- Have you ever seen a guy more confused what to do with a football in his hands than Blake Martinez?
 
 
Final Thoughts:
 
- One very good thing about no running backs - it let Rodgers get the game reps he missed in preseason. Just joking... kind of...
- Brett Favre broken thumb, no problem. Jay Cutler sprained thumb, out for weeks.
- To think Ty Montgomery couldn't get on the field the first four games.
- So this wasn't the 1985 Bears defense, but I've been preaching to take what the defense gives you and stop forcing things. Packers did that the second half.
- Out of necessity, this was the closest the Packers have been to a traditional West Coast Offense in years.
- Seems like ages ago I was complaining about Rodgers' inability to throw an accurate 5yd dump-off pass to a RB. Still an issue.
- Gunter redeemed himself nicely after an awful performance last week. 
- He has his faults, but the Packers haven't had a hitter at safety like Kentrell Brice in a long time.
- Ty Montgomery will know a new level of sore tomorow.
- This was a definite confidence builder for a team that desperately needed it. 
 
 

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:39 pm

And that's why I've always backed Adams... Hopefully this is just the start

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Chad Lundberg's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:31 pm

So. Much. RELIEF.

Aaron should have had 5 TD's tonight. A lot of encouraging stuff on offense tonight. Definitely a rebound we all desperately wanted.

That said, don't get your hopes up on the running game. Montgomery took advantage of a few great running lanes, he didn't throw off tacklers like Lacy does. Hope to God he comes back in 8 weeks.

That defense looks downright dominant. Demetri Goodson needs to go, as soon as Rollins or Randall comes back. Team looks positive again, despite the lowly opponent, very VERY encouraging night.

And I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Blake Martinez is better than A.J. Hawk ever was.

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stockholder's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:10 pm

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stockholder's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:11 pm

Maybe that concussion did some good after all!

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Chad Lundberg's picture

October 21, 2016 at 01:04 am

Thought the same thing myself. Whatever it is, I hope it keeps happening. Offense needs all the help it can get.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

October 21, 2016 at 01:36 am

Why the dislikes???? Are people seriously hoping Adams fails? True Packers fans indeed.

I for one am happy that Adams is officially turning things around for the better. Yes, people like me and Spud have earned the right to say we were right about Adams.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:15 am

Some did not catch the sarcasm...

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Savage57's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:22 am

Don't get injured patting yourself on the back.

For the first game in a long time, he played like he belongs on a NFL field.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:20 am

Take your blinders off... he had 5 for 85 and a TD vs. the Giants as well, the hate for Adams is unwarranted

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Farts_After_Wins's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:39 pm

*poot*

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm

**taps mic**

The crazy guy is checking in.

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EdsLaces's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm

He played well .....he wasn't 2014 AR though. Careful with that mic as my father al ways says ..."put that down its expensive".

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:19 pm

We don't **NEED** 2014 Rodgers. That's the thing. Just give this Offense some consistency. The plays are there to be made. His inconsistency is what's hurting the Offense. There are tons of plays to be made. We see them every game. This game was no surprise to me. Not one bit.

Let Cobb drag his right foot on that backshoulder pass...

What if Rodgers stayed with Nelson on that double-move outside and threw the bomb...

What if Adams wasn't held on his double-move that led to a Defensive Holding...

That's 3 potential TDs added to his stats.

The energy and fun this Defense is having -- the Defense no longer needs an MVP Rodgers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:01 am

The defense probably doesn't need an MVP AR, but the offense still does.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:51 am

You think so?

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dobber's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:42 pm

1-0 this week. Not super pretty, but effective.

Get Randall and Rollins back after the mini-bye and off to ATL. Isn't Matt Ryan due to fall off the edge of the map?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:04 am

Yeah, Dobber, you've got your very own personal "dislike every comment regardless of content" person dogging you. I've actually been liking your posts just to even things out (don't want you to get a big ego here - some of the likes I gave you were on iffy comments!). I'm sure you know to ignore it.

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:13 am

It makes me feel like a celebrity...maybe I'll run for President...

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cpheph1's picture

October 24, 2016 at 08:20 pm

Hopefully #24 will be back vs Atl. #23 is out for a few gms. Gunter is the number 1 cb right now...wow!...and Goodson is #2 over #28...which I question...Micah Hyde is playing decent @ 5th DB...in a 3 safety look & I believe I've seen 4 safety on-field including Brice in six DBs / dime.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:43 pm

1. Let's keep in mind that we played a TERRIBLE excuse for an NFL team tonight. Yes, it looks better on offense, but that doesn't really tell us much.

2. That said, the offense did this thing called "different" tonight. Not the same 11 personnel. Not the same iso routes. Short, quick hitters. Monty out of the backfield. That is good.

3. I'm still skeptical. But GPG.

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Idiot Fan's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:47 pm

What I'm encouraged by is that Rodgers was much more accurate tonight. Don't get me wrong, some, including two of his TD passes, were quite off, but he had some really nice passes, including two beauties that should have been TDs. After last week, this is a step in the right direction.

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Nick Perry's picture

October 21, 2016 at 05:57 am

That 2nd pass to Cobb which should have been a TD was a great play by the Bears DB. He shoved Cobb just enough so Cobb couldn't tap the the foot down otherwise it's a TD.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:06 am

You're being very kind to Cobb. Too kind.

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Nick Perry's picture

October 22, 2016 at 09:38 am

TGR... Look at the play again. It looks like the Bears DB shoved Cobb out of bounds before the foot could get down. Not saying Cobb has been great by any means. Just saying on "That Play", the Bears DB made a good play.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:50 am

Your moniker should be all the celebration we need today. Any time we beat the Bears is a good week. I know they are not the rivals they once were, but we are one game away from tying the all-time series. Not to mention, there is no such thing as a meaningless division win. Especially since we are 2-0 at home against division foes. That's 2 more than last year.

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Kyle Graham's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm

Nice to see Rodgers getting in rhythm. Still some work to do but the pack did what they should do against a weaker opponent and that's win. On to the mini bye! Go pack!

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Idiot Fan's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:45 pm

Playing the Bears and then getting ten days off to rest is just what this team needed. Get some guys healthy and then start stacking successes.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm

The offense finally got on a roll in the 2nd half. They actually moved the ball well in the first half just didn't put the. All in the end zone.

Good win. Needed win. This was a game to get some rhythm back in the offense. It's a work in progress. But took a step forward.

A few players really worthy of mention.

-Rodgers. No running game, WRs not getting open. He just did what he had to do. After the Bears scored a TD on the sack fumble, he really got on a roll.

-Adams. The offense really seemed to click when Adams started making bigger plays. We need more games like this from Adams.

-Montgomery. He isn't a pounder, but get him the ball in space... what a weapon he will become.

-Clark. He was all over the field. Definitely with the 1st round pick.

-Gunter. He really played well overall. Night and day from Sunday.

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:55 am

I thought it was telling how ARod bounced back well after the sack-TD. He could have gotten sullen or too into his own head and rope-a-doped it from there on out. Instead, he kept plugging away. It's clear he's going to have to be better about hitting those tight throwing lanes from here on if they're going to continue having success, but I was encouraged by how he rebounded last night.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:06 am

Completely agree... That play just seemed to wake them up.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:28 am

- I think that shows that Aaron is not in decline, but that he has/had some issues in his head. Let's hope improvement continues...

- WR played as usual, but play calling was better, more mixed and Aaron lets things develop. Soemtimes not long enough, but mainly he did.

- Montgomery showed that at the beginning of the last year. I think Randall Cobb should be in danger...

- Packers DL starts to click and that helps young lineman to show their potential (Lowry was also good, Mike Pennel had one pass batted)...

- LaDarius Gunter was playing well because he studied Jeffry and follow him all over the field, but primary playing on the right side of the defense, which suits him much better. Last game he was covering left side, whoever was there and that is why he failed...

- I know that Clay did not made much of impact on the first sight, but he allows Perry all those nice plays, because opponent DCs are still more concern about him, than about Perry. I say OLB team did nice job last evening...

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:47 am

"- Montgomery showed that at the beginning of the last year. I think Randall Cobb should be in danger..."

You mean the Randall Cobb who has caught 27 passes for 256 yards and 2 TDs in the last three games? That Randall Cobb?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:18 am

Croat, I completely disagree. Chicago doubled Perry much of the night. CM3's sack came on a play where Daniels got some push and CM3 pinched in behind Daniels and had a free lane to the QB. CM3 showed some nice speed, but he didn't beat anyone on the play. CM3 did have several pressures though where he did beat his man, including the sandwich hit on the Bear QB.

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Since'61's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:55 pm

Monty was great tonight. My question to MM would be why hasn't Monty been playing since the first series of our first game? D. Adams finally had a big game!
As I mentioned in a previous post, this is the offense that Rodgers and the Packers can execute, again why haven't we been doing this since week 1?
Rodgers is obviously OK physically so let's keep this going until someone can stop it.
Clark and Perry had strong games on defense.
What happened to Jackson? He seems to have some speed but he disappeared by the 2nd quarter.
I know it's the Bears but we needed this win and now we can enjoy the mini-bye, get our CBs back and find some RBs. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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EdsLaces's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:08 pm

Jackson had a hand injury....go figure.

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EdsLaces's picture

October 20, 2016 at 10:55 pm

Crazy game...soooo proud of these guys.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:10 pm

Montgomery is becoming a hell of a weapon out of the backfield.

Unfortunately Jackson did get hurt. I was actually really looking forward to seeing him play. He has some really good quickness.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:50 am

Monty has always been a weapon. Were lucky he recovered. Sad it took so long to put him in. Its been like pulling teeth. Now we need to do the same with Janis and Davis.and not wait til another injury.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:55 am

Yeah, I really don't get why Montgomery wasn't used until last week.

Why does it take injuries to happen to get some of these guys involved. Hopefully what it did was get McCarthy to wake up and become more creative. Last night was a good start.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:22 am

I've been saying for years that MM doesn't always put his best players on the field. Neal with 734 snaps to Perry's 351 last season. Monty and Abby (well he was hurt last night) are just this year's issues.

Adams looks like our best WR. [Jaws drop from those familiar with my comments.]

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:33 am

Look at the Dallas playoff game when Adams started getting our hopes up...he benefitted from defenses paying a lot of attention to Cobb and Nelson. Last night, the Bears were paying attention to Nelson and shading a safety to his side of the field. Adams is a complementary guy who, when he's catching the ball, will be able to make defenses pay. Maybe he's getting past last season and emerging as a real #2...but who's #1?

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cpheph1's picture

October 24, 2016 at 08:36 pm

I usually give you a thumbs up...& did again. The most amazing fact was the 39 completions...team record...which Rogers could break later in the season. 50 or more throws a game will be the new norm?...who knows.

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Nick Perry's picture

October 22, 2016 at 09:44 am

TB...Did you see that slant route by Janis where he ran straight into the Bears defender? The DB never moved and Janis made his cut, was looking back, and BOOM, right into the DB. UGH!

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:59 am

I have to admit that I was a little discouraged when Adams was active for last night. I was looking forward to seeing how the Packers divvied up snaps among the remaining WR who bring different traits and skill sets to the lineup. I'm glad he had a big game.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 10:48 am

In the last three games, Cobb had an amazing game, Monty had an amazing game, and now Adams had an amazing game. This reminds me of when Jennings, Driver and Jones or Jordy would have good games. You never knew who it was going to be from week to week. Hope Jordy gets his again soon. Also, I like Janis as much as the next guy, but can we temper our expectations of him a bit. Not a fan of him running out of the end zone and losing us 10 yards to start each drive. His downfield blocking was pretty shy. And his route running is far from crisp. Hope he cleans it up. Good to see Adams gain some much needed confidence. A building block for sure.

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stockholder's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm

Great Game plan by MM. The short stuff to Montgomery and Adams was terrific. My first thoughts was to calm my heart after seeing Adams catch all those passes above his shoulders. But As the game went. I felt A-rod tried to much to go long, and that nearly swung this game in the Bears Favor. I think the packers caught a break when the bears QB went down. Still the game plan worked to KEEP ADAMS SHORT! And Adams finally responded. And as far as Janis goes. A-rod still hates the guy. Instead of waiting for him to clear his man, A-rod just threw it and bitched him out on a 3rd and 3. Clarke and Brice made some nice plays. And the secondary was tough after the lead was established. Nice win.

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pacman's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:01 pm

Once again MM changes only when practically forced to. Rodgers still not throwing well. A couple years ago there would have been dozens of back shoulder throws/catches and the score would have been 52-0. Beat the Bears - nothing to be too happy about. Hopefully, I'll calm down in 10 days.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:07 pm

If Cobb drags his right foot on that backshoulder pass your comment would be 2 sentences shorter.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:14 pm

Should have had 12 more points in this game. 2 TDs, extra point and FG.

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dschwalm's picture

October 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm

"Shoulda", "woulda", "coulda"

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October 21, 2016 at 06:17 am

Cow??? Are you OK??

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Tundraboy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:53 am

Lol. Was wondering the same thing. Did he get electroshock treatment or something.

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:00 am

He's in the blog's concussion protocol. Should be out in a couple weeks... ;)

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 04:46 pm

Lol. Is this really cow? I feel like Nagler is coming in here in disguise or something. Either that or cow feels like we have reached bottom the last few years and reset expectations.

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Rossonero's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:07 pm

The first half was painful, but I liked the adjustments in the second half. Loved the quick passes. The stat about Rodgers' 74% accuracy with under 2 seconds to pass was eye opening.

I hope Knile Davis learns the ropes over this mini bye. We can get by the Bears with no running game, but it won't fly vs. the better teams. Gunter bounced back, Perry is on a tear we just need more from Clay Matthews. Nevertheless, a win is a win and we needed it bad. Now to get ready for Atlanta.

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Point-Packer's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:28 pm

Like kissing your sister

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:01 am

My sister is hot.

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October 21, 2016 at 12:40 pm

Logged in just to like this. Well played sir. lmao

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm

1) That's why you don't give up on draft picks prematurely (y'all know who I'm referring to)

2) We FINALLY seen more double moves!!!!!!!!!!! Y'all don't know how bad I wanted Adams to get that 3rd TD. CHTV would have had to temporarily block me

2) Rodgers sure didn't hesitate to go to his checkdown(s) this game. Results.....expect more. Especially if/when Davis gets acclimated

3) 14 carries between Ty & Cobb is probably more than enough, but their damage comes from those checkdowns. There's so much open field and neither one of them waste steps after the catch. I love it. That might be why Rodgers rarely checks it down to Lacy/Starks/Rodgers. Now, why it took so many injuries to get them this involved beats me.

4) Wait until the Offense starts playing with the same amount of energy and fun as the Defense.

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October 21, 2016 at 07:04 am

1- Which one? I can name a number of draft picks that people said they were terrible picks and whatnot....

2- What a game by Adams! He finally had his break out performance. I was hoping for Rodgers to give Adams a chance to make a play on a TD throw. Adams is one of those types of Receivers that maybe covered but can make difficult catches. That play seemed to really give Rodgers confidence in him.

3- Montgomery... While they didn't have Montgomery pound the ball up the middle a lot. But when he did carry the ball all he did was average 6.7 yards per carry and had a long of 30. He creates a mismatch especially when they went 5 WR's and had him in the backfield.

4- Wait until McCarthy figures out exactly how to get the most out of this offense.

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October 21, 2016 at 07:58 am

Re Number 4. Wouldn't hold my breath. Just like last year in the playoffs, the only way some guys become part of the plays is when there is noone else left to play. Lets see what happens in next 2 weeks.

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October 21, 2016 at 10:27 am

@Tundra

I think that's where we're at as an Offense -- forced to play some guys. It's a damn shame, but better mid-season than post season. We had to use 2 WRs as primary RBs. I don't expect that to change much unless Starks comes back and plays much better than he has. I'm not saying the Offense is back, but if the Offense can match the Defense's energy and have some fun I think we'll see games more like vs Lions & Bears than vs the Vikings and Cowboys.

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October 21, 2016 at 10:12 am

@RC

I was talking about Davante Adams. There are very few Adams supporters here. One of my bold pre season predictions was he would have at least one 3-TD scoring game and that damn Defensive Holding killed me, lol.

I think MM is getting there - slowly but surely. It's a shame players have to be injured for this to happen, but it is what it is. I knew Ty and Adams will have their moment(s). Cobb too, but he left a TD out there. His huge game will come.

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October 21, 2016 at 10:20 am

Dre-

yeah, i knew who you meant... It just seems like every week all we hear about is how bad a certain player is.

My bold prediction prior to the season was that Adams would lead our team in TD's this year.

Completely agree about McCarthy... I really love how he is using Montgomery in the backfield. And basically how he just changed the offense over night. Definitely taking a step in the right direction.

Cobb left 2 TD's out there... The one he dropped, and the one he didn't get the 2nd foot down.

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October 21, 2016 at 11:34 am

@RC

"It just seems like every week all we hear about is how bad a certain player is. "

That's what kills me about the comments on CHTV. You're only as good as your last game here. It's not often you see support for a player in a slump.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:57 am

Not just on here. Twitter too...

I have been one that has been on Starks.. Now we will be forced to hope he comes back and can offer something.
He simply just hasn't had any production, and has dropped/fumbled way to many passes.

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October 21, 2016 at 12:34 pm

@RC

But that's different. We can get on players because we want them to play to their potential. Like me with Rodgers. I've been throwing majority of the blame on him. But I don't want any other QB starting for the Pack because I know when he's on there's virtually nothing a Defense could do to counter the Offense.

It only becomes funny when people begin to question if a player still has it just because he's in a slump. We really have/had people questioning Rodgers/Matthews/Peppers/Nelson/Cobb ability to be productive. That's crazy to me.

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stockholder's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:01 am

#2. I just went to the bathroom! Adams cannot make difficult catches. This was his best game but,-- His best catches are to the right and in his bread basket. This was the first game he caught multiple passes above his shoulders. MM played him perfectly. Short passes and down the sidelines. A-rod was still looking for him to much over the middle, leaving the crossing pattern underneath open. And the offense slowed because of it. But I still liked A-rod this game. Pass ,pass,pass. Remember this is the bears and not the Vikings.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:47 am

@Stockholder

Why is there a but? What's with the backhanded compliment?

If I'm not mistaken, his first TD was more inside and towards the CBs back than outside on Adams' backshoulder (adjusted catch) and his 2nd (which he was wide open for) was caught behind him and at knee level (adjusted).

A win is a win.

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October 21, 2016 at 09:50 pm

A win is a Win. Adams game last night was his best. I gave him a game ball. He adjusted low and to his right after 3 years. Thats why A-rod throws them there. If A-rod did not put them low, and to his right, they were never caught. Until last night. Last night he adjusted the proper way. I will say he also uses his left Hand better than his right. So if the ball is thrown over the right shoulder he can catch it. I think it took the coaches 3 years to understand he catches better with his left Hand. And low to the right with both hands. Watch tape. You'll see it. But forget the middle of field posts. So I told you in my comments. KEEP him Short . Throw low. Use the sidelines! Did you See Adams catch anything down the middle? It may straighten him out. Did that sound like I wanted him to Fail. The biggest bitch up to this game was give the guys a chance that sat the bench. I did not give him that nick name. We expect A-rod to do great. But why shouldn't we expect the same thing from all the personal?

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October 21, 2016 at 08:02 am

2. Yeah, but a double move when the DB is playing off as far as Chicago's corners were doesn't necessarily get you very much.

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October 21, 2016 at 10:22 am

@Dobber

It does when those hitch routes and YAC start to add up. I haven't seen the All-22 yet, but I remember 2 potential TDs presented themselves when the CBs were playing close and getting beat by the double-move from Nelson & Adams.

I think the Pack used it well this last game. I remember Adams not getting open on a double-move earlier in the game on a CB playing off, so he began to eat 'em up on hitch routes. That led to the play later in the game where the CB played up, got beat on a double-move and had to hold Adams to prevent an easy TD.

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October 21, 2016 at 09:40 am

So, Drealyn, on #1: "That's why you don't give up on draft picks prematurely (y'all know who I'm referring to)" did you mean the players or we commenters? RC took you to be referring to players, but:

We had folks wanting Gunter cut after the Dallas game.
We had folks wanting Adams cut.
We had folks wanting Barclay cut ... um wait....
We had folks wanting Starks cut... um wait....
We had folks thinking Lacy was still fat... um wait....
We had folks wanting Banjo cut.
We had folks wanting Abby cut.
We had folks wanting Trevor Davis cut.
We had folks wanting Callahan cut...um wait....

I'll fess up to Barclay, Lacy, Davis and Callahan (but to the PS) - but the jury is out on those.

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October 21, 2016 at 10:26 am

@Reynoldo
I don't know why I assumed people would catch it. I often defended Adams when just about every one else gave him nicknames and/or wanted him benched/cut/traded.

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October 21, 2016 at 11:11 am

I still do. This was his best game, but their the Bears for crying out loud. How many years has he been on this team and been babied. The guy is not a top gun star. I talked about how they could get Adams going earlier in the week. This game is a building block only. You don't play bad for 3 years and think thats all whats expected. He has a long way to go before I give him a does not suck grade. I somehow feel he's going to self destruct, or hurt the team in the play-offs. And his moves show he might have been on some substance too. Time will tell.

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October 21, 2016 at 11:52 am

@Stockholder

Who at CHTV is calling Adams a top gun star??? And Adams did not play bad for 3 seasons. He had 1 bad season.

You don't feel he's going to self destruct -- you want him to.

"And his moves show he might have been on some substance too. Time will tell."

WHAT....IN....THE...PHUCK???!!

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October 21, 2016 at 12:30 pm

Why do people just say Adams had one bad year and gloss over the fact that he had a high ankle sprain all year and was thrust into a role he wasn't ready for? Good for Adams to bounce back after his second year. There's not much more adversity a guy could have taken:
1) Ankle
2) #2WR role he wasn't ready for
3) Piles and piles of fan and pundit criticism all year
Plus everyone agrees that year three is when WRs and CBs take that next big jump.

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October 21, 2016 at 12:45 pm

@Bohj

Because when you already don't like the player (or the place he was picked) mentioning your #1 - #3 will seem like excuses. It's why we heard more about Cobb's shoulder than Adams' ankle.

The consensus is: Cobb is liked. Adams is not. (by the fans...not the team)

Even now, Adams has to have 2 big plays for every 1 bad play in order for him to not get heavily criticized. Just imagine if Adams dropped that pass Cobb dropped in the End Zone and didn't get his foot down in the back of the End Zone. Boyyyyyy....

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October 21, 2016 at 04:28 pm

Thats non sense as I explained above.

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October 21, 2016 at 04:02 pm

Substance = Did not move as quick as he did last night in his first three years. 1 Bad season.? = Got chewed out in front of National Tv by the coach. Was Blamed for several A-Rod interceptions because he was not running the routes correctly. Stopped in the middle of the field . Took 3 years almost to catch a pass above his shoulders OVER THE MIDDLE! Self destruct= How many chances do you give a player? As many loses as he needs ? Top Gun= anointed as the next Jennings when drafted. But yet How do we account for A-rods decline. Just don't have a clue huh.

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October 21, 2016 at 04:27 pm

@Stockholder

Lol. Ohhh, I see. I was actually interested in debating until this last comment. You're full of it. This is obviously a troll move.

Come on out, Ashton! The jig's up.

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October 23, 2016 at 02:31 am

@Drealyn. I think it is human nature to take notice of the performance of certain players in the following instances:

1. TT picked a guy you wanted him to pick;
2. TT picked X when your draft crush was still available;
3. TT picked X over the same position player you thought was better;
4. TT overdrafted a player, in your opinion.
5. TT picked a player you thought of as a UDFA.
6. TT picked a player rather than trading down.
7. TT traded up: you didn't like player or don't think was worth it.

I think I root for all the players brought in by TT to play well. I confess that there is some extra satisfaction when I player I liked that TT actually picked performs well. Most people, including me, like to be right, so when I vehemently disagree with a pick, there might be some consolation if the reason the pick failed is one I identified during the draft. I hope that I can objectively assess a player. Examples:

1. Lacy, Rollins, Bradford. Loved all 3 picks. (2 out of 3; C'mon Bradford! - but with Ryan, Martinez, and Thomas playing well, I am not rooting for an injury so Bradford can prove himself.

2. Adams fits this. I loved Moncrief, Landry, and Bryant (red flags on Bryant up to TT to assess). Since Moncrief played the same position, #3 fits as well. Randall over Malcom Brown as well.

3. Adams over Moncrief.

4. Thornton, RR, Monty, Brandon Jackson, Justin Harrel. All too high.

5. The unspeakable Backman, Schlauderaff, Elmore. None were draftable.

6. Randall - I didn't know Randall well (listed as a safety, so I spent less than 3 minutes watching his tape). Preferred M. Brown, but also thought we could trade down and still get Randall.
6a Clark - thought we could trade down and still get a good DT/NT. Also preferred Butler and a few others IIRC anyway.

7. Drawing a blank. Maybe Worthy, but I don't remember being too upset.

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October 23, 2016 at 02:58 pm

"I think I root for all the players brought in by TT to play well."

Do you really?

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October 23, 2016 at 03:23 pm

Speaking Of Thornton. Had a Great game today for the Lions. See TTs guys just need 3 years!

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October 23, 2016 at 06:57 pm

Donald Driver

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October 24, 2016 at 08:21 pm

Re: Drealyn

Noted.

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stockholder's picture

October 24, 2016 at 08:37 pm

Say goodbye to Abbey. Allison just put on the roster. You now have another short WR. No surprise to me.

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October 24, 2016 at 10:37 pm

What on god's green earth would make you suspect Adams would hurt the team in the play offs? Adams has historically played his best ball come late season and playoffs in his time in the league.

Adams numbers over his first two seasons aren't that far off from other Packers WRs' first two seasons.

He played most of last season banged up.

In my estimation, Adams suffers from early James Jones syndrome- it's a focus thing, not a talent thing. He drops ballsmostly because he's thinking about the YAC instead of focusing first on securing the ball. That is something that can quickly be remedied.

I agree one game does mean he's arrived, but this was not his first great game, either. He has had a few, and a few in big games. Davante needs consistency. He has the tools. I would not classify him as a guy who sucks.

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October 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm

Not pretty at times, but great win. The D only gave up 3 (albeit against the Bear's 3rd stringer). Run D was mostly good, pass rush was average. Secondary did well, though Hawkins should be out there in place of Goodson.

On offense, my main man Monty (alliteration ftw) lit it up again. These past few games have reminded me why I was so hyped on him last year. Also, glad Adam's is showing some consistency and really becoming a downfield threat. I'm not sure our deep ball will ever regain it's pre 2015 form, at least with Nelson. He just seems a step off. Maybe time for Davis or Janis to play the boundary a little more? As far as receivers getting open, I now truly think scheme is the root problem. Clements may need to go. We've had drops, and Aaron missed some throws, but there's often a lack of creativity and design. The DB's know where we'll be before the ball's even thrown. We've got a great QB and WR's, let's use them to their full potential.

It was the bears, so I can't get too excited, but the win leaves me optimistic about our chance next week.

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October 21, 2016 at 08:06 am

"It was the bears, so I can't get too excited, but the win leaves me optimistic about our chance next week."

You can only play the team the schedule puts in front of you that week. I agree: people around here would really be hopping if the Packers put 40+ on the Bears last night, and it wouldn't have taken much more for it to happen, but it was a solid win with a lot of positives. To quote Dom DeLuise in "History of the World: Part I": It's nice. Not THRILLING, but nice.

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Gman1976's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:33 pm

For some reason, the white uniforms remind me of the Pack in the 1970s. Anyone else get the same feeling?

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October 21, 2016 at 08:06 am

We don't talk about the Packers of the 70s here...unless it's to scold someone for not being appreciative enough of the Packers success over the last 25 years.

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October 20, 2016 at 11:34 pm

Well it took a while, but they finally realized it might be a good idea to get T-Mo involved in the offense. Short dump-offs followed by YAC - Montgomery is perfectly built for that type of strategy.

Move the chains, control the clock, keep the D on the sidelines, win the game.

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October 21, 2016 at 12:35 pm

You mean, like a West Coast Offense? Huh...

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Musegal's picture

October 20, 2016 at 11:52 pm

A two time MVP Quarterback playing more like a journeyman this season, total Armageddon at Running back, receivers who can't get open and drop it too often when they do, tight ends that ... are there tight ends on this team?, total Armageddon at defensive back, first and second year players all up and down the defense needed to contribute, bad punter, trying their 10th kick returner to find one with some big play ability... and 4 -2 record. Wow, what a coaching job being done so far.

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October 20, 2016 at 11:57 pm

And all these genius Internet GM's that wanted to cut Adams and thought Perry was a wasted draft pick... oops

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October 21, 2016 at 12:13 am

what a difference 4-2 is from 3-3. Rogers passes were still off but the recievers really came thru....some rythm finally found. Jordy is not the same. MM forced to change things up....and it worked......we did look like the Pats for a while...50 passes......first game I have had a chance to watch most of and I feel like maybe just maybe we can get it together. go pack go

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October 21, 2016 at 12:15 am

yo musegirl
how about a little positive after a much needed win....weve been nothing but negative on here for days....your attitude doesnt help

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October 21, 2016 at 05:32 am

I can't remember the last time when we had back to back to back TD drives in the 2nd half of a game. That kind of attacking offense was good to see. I hope we now can put a whole game together using that aggressiveness.

For the most part this year, I really like the way our front seven is playing on defense. If Randall and Rollins can get healthy and develop the way they should in their second year, by playoff time our defense should be in great shape.

I could add lots of complaints to this first impression, but I won't. Even though we beat a lousy Bears team, I saw some good things happen in the 2nd half and I'm happy to live with that until we play Atlanta.

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October 21, 2016 at 05:49 am

A win's a win and I truly hope we use this to build off of, but we still beat the last place Bears with their third string QB, so let's not pat ourselves on the back too hard just yet.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:14 am

To be Fair. The Packers shut down Hoyer until they knocked him out of the game too..

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October 21, 2016 at 07:05 am

I loved two guys effort...Pennel and Perry. Even with that Swiss cheese secondary they make this defense very good.
In a different vein Matthew's play didn't seem up to par.
Offense will be like this, but they will play better defenses so a few new wrinkles will be needed.

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October 21, 2016 at 07:13 am

I add in Kenny Clark as well.... Clark was very good tonight.

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October 21, 2016 at 08:11 am

I'd like to see how many times the Packers rushed more than four last night. Seemed to me that they were very conservative in that regard and dropped guys into coverage to protect the DBs. Not a tremendous amount of pressure, but the D held up.

I liked how Clark, just as Simms was making some comment on him and his draft status, beat the C/G and dropped Carey for a 3 yard loss...like he knew they were talking about him.

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October 21, 2016 at 09:47 am

To me, that play by Clark is more impressive and more important than the flash play by the sidelines (though that is a real nice play too). Penetrate, take on offensive lineman, shed OL guy, crush RB. Textbook. Beautiful.

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October 21, 2016 at 07:23 am

Let's not forget who the opponent was - Bears are bottom 3 team, possibly the worst (even though Browns are terrible). 3rd string QB. Mostly backups on OL. Their secondary is as bad as any in the NFL.

For that, the offensive performance in the 1st half was terrible, and the D predictably played well. I am really not high on Jeffrey or any of the Bears WR, and it showed they can't get open really, except against Goodson (but who can't get open against that guy?). Overall a W is a W but this will not be good enough against better teams. Atlanta and their WRs will have a field day, unless Randall or Rollins or both can return.

But the Packers D is still respectable, whereas the O will be just inconsistent and not very good the whole season. Bears D is one of the worst in the league, especially the secondary...

So we can take it, 4-2, but after the next 5 with 4 on the road I would really be surprised if this team was better than 6-5...

And my final rant: Can we stop this BS about Packers receivers not getting open? Simms and the other so-called experts said that all evening long, but when they showed plays develop almost always 1 - 2 receivers were open. 'Open' in NFL terms does not mean that one has to 5 yards from the opponent. It means that if the QB throws the ball to a certain spot only the WR can get to it, or it will be an imcomplete, or it will be a defensive foul. Problem is QB1 is inaccurate and can't place the ball where it needs to be, so it looks as if the WRs are not open, but they are. Some are wide open on most plays...

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October 21, 2016 at 07:48 am

I look at the win as a step in the right direction for the offense. Was it perfect, no. Will it prove anything against better teams, no... What it was though was a game in which the offense could get some rhythm and build confidence.

Its a confidence builder.

I'm just really curious, why don't other teams strictly go after Goodson? He is horrible...

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October 21, 2016 at 01:23 pm

"...Can we stop this BS about Packers receivers not getting open? "

Nope. We **need** speed. Speed will open things up for us. That's why we drafted Davis.

[/sarcasm]

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October 21, 2016 at 08:09 am

I think Martinez did a common rookie mistake-it was his first interception , he went to the ground-which in college means play is dead-forgot rule in NFL was his play was still alive.
I think we should continue to try this West Coast short pass offense stuff--it seems to work for us LOL

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October 21, 2016 at 11:15 am

Thought the Bears pass rush was poor. With that terrible pass D they should have rushed more to force quicker throws. Also shocked that the Bears pass d is actually worse than ours.
Our pass D never got tested because the mighty Hoyer went down early and his replacement is fourth string on a three string team.
Lets see how the pack does against the teams coming up. Then we will see where they stand. They need 4 wins to go 8-8 at the worst.

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October 21, 2016 at 01:19 pm

So, we handle the Giants Big 3 - Eli was off.

We handle the Bears - Hoyer and the backup are the reason.

You only win when we lose. Got cha.

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