Packers Snap Counts: Week 5 Vs. The Rams
The Packers squeeze past an under-manned Rams team in a road victory.

The Packers suspended Romeo Doubs for this game. They elevated CB Robert Rochell and FB Andrew Beck from the practice squad. The inactive players due to injury were WR Christian Watson, DL Devonte Wyatt, DB Jaire Alexander, and OL Jordan Morgan, while the healthy scratches were Edge Brenton Cox and OT Travis Glover. QB Malik Willis and TE Luke Musgrave were active but did not play.
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Jenkins | 59 | 100 | |
| Walker | 59 | 100 | 4/18% |
| Tom | 59 | 100 | 4/18% |
| Rhyan | 59 | 100 | 4/18% |
| Myers | 59 | 100 | |
| Monk | 4/18% | ||
| Dillard | 4/18% | ||
| Telfort | 4/18% |
The offensive line was adequate. The running backs averaged 3.88 yards per carry (25 for 97 yards) but with runs by Reed and Love included, the average rose to 4.2-yards, roughly league average for a team. If the line isn't great at moving defenders, it manages to open enough holes. Sean Rhyan has improved now that he has settled into the right guard position. I see no reason to disturb this line unless Jordan Morgan makes a clear case for being the starter during practice. The line allowed just 3 quarterback hits and 2 sacks. This is a good pass-blocking unit.
QUARTERBACKS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Love | 59 | 100 | |
| Willis | DNP |
Love completed 15 of 26 (57.7%) for 224 yards (8.62-yards/attempt), 2 touchdowns and 1 horrible pick-six interception. Love also had another awful play when he threw a pass backwards that resulted in a loss of yards and a runoff of 10 seconds on the clock. He was afforded good protection for the most part. He had receivers drop at least 3 passes (2 by Wicks - at least- and 1 drop by Reed); had those passes been caught his completion percentage rises to 69.23%. He had a 95.7 passer rating.
The Packers converted just 1 of 8 third down opportunities, and that was when Love scrambled for 12 yards on a 3rd and 10. The other 7 third down plays resulted in sack, incomplete (Reed), completion to Kraft for 5 (needed 14), Interception, completion to Wicks for 10 (needed 26 but the 10 was important as Narveson made a 46-yard field goal), completion to Emanual Wilson for minus 9 (needed a positive 15), and an incomplete/drop to Wicks deep right for what would have been a first down. Those third down plays were pretty ugly.
RUNNING BACK:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Jacobs | 44 | 75 | |
| Wilson | 15 | 25 | |
| Beck | 3 | 5 | 5/23% |
| Brooks | 8/36% |
Jacobs gained 73 yards on 19 carries (3.84-yards/carry) and a touchdown. The touchdown run was all Jacobs (and the blocking by receivers): there was no hole where the run was designed to go but Jacobs bounced it outside and beat the defenders to the corner. Jacobs also caught his only target for 21 yards. Wilson gained 24 yards on 6 carries. They both ran hard.
TIGHT ENDS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Kraft | 50 | 85 | 8/36% |
| Sims | 19 | 32 | 4/18% |
| Musgrave | DNP |
Kraft caught 4 of 5 passes for 88 yards and 2 touchdowns, with a long of 66. Kraft's development as a blocker has meant that LaFleur can open his playbook all the way, since Kraft can block defensive backs in space and edge players in-line. Kraft's nimbleness and surprising speed, plus an effective stiff-arm, have made him into an excellent yards after the catch guy. Ben Sims had no targets.
WIDE RECEIVERS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Reed | 45 | 76 | 3/14% |
| Heath | 45 | 76 | |
| Wick | 45 | 76 | |
| Melton | 29 | 49 | 1/5% |
Jayden Reed caught 4 of his 6 targets (he had a drop) for 78 yards, a 19.5 yard average, with a long of 53. He has blossomed into a big-play receiver, though he is not as yet a volume receiver. Reed had 2 carries for 19 yards, as well. There is no doubt that he is a large part of what makes the Packers' offense go. Wicks once again led the Packers in targets with 7 because he is so often open. Wicks caught 2 passes for 20 yards, but it should have been over 60 yards. He dropped at least 2 passes that were right to him, including a deep pass down the right side that would have "iced" the game. There were two other passes where Wicks was wide open but the pass intended for him was not close to him. He and Love were not on the same page but it isn't clear if Wicks ran the route incorrectly or if Love was inaccurate. The Packers should continue to apply WD-40 to Love to knock off the rust and should stop applying WD-40 to Wicks' hands. Pro Football Focus listed Wicks with 4 drops coming into this game, so it would appear that he now has 6 drops on 29 targets, a 20.7% drop rate. I, and many fans, have Wicks with 8 drops, good for a 27.6% drop rate.
Malik Heath caught 2 of his 3 targets for 14 yards and Melton caught 1 of 2 targets for 12 yards. All of the wide receivers show great effort and effectiveness blocking for others. Heath and Wicks are particularly tenacious. Wicks threw a tremendous block to spring Kraft for his touchdown catch and, if I remember correctly, Reed had a nice block that helped Jacobs turn the corner for his touchdown run.
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Clark | 51 | 65 | |
| Brooks | 46 | 59 | 2/9% |
| Wooden | 30 | 38 | 3/14% |
| Slaton | 27 | 35 | 6/28% |
The Packers allowed the Rams to gain 134 yards on 28 carries for a 4.8-yard average against a team missing it top two wide receivers. Since the Rams just put their starting left guard and starting center on IR, that result is disappointing. The Rams tossed out Logan Bruss, a 2023 third-round pick who missed all of 2023 on IR and who was starting just his third NFL game, at left guard and a rookie sixth-rounder from Wisconsin at center, and they held up in the run game well and were pretty good at pass blocking until late. The Packers did have 10 quarterback hits and 3 sacks, but the immobile Stafford generally had very good time to throw the ball.
Slaton had 3 solo tackles and a quarterback hit. Brooks had 2 tackles (1 solo), but he came up with 3 QB hits and a sack and a half. Clark had 2 tackles (1 solo) and 2 quarterback hits, though one hit was due to some kind of miscommunication as Clark was wholly unblocked and Stafford had to just throw the ball away. Wooden had 3 assisted tackles. Clark (and Gary) were often double-teamed.
EDGE:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Gary | 49 | 63 | |
| Van Ness | 42 | 54 | 2/9% |
| Smith | 39 | 50 | |
| Enagbare | 28 | 36 | 10/45% |
| Mosby | 13/59% |
Van Ness had 5 tackles (3 solo) but never sniffed the quarterback. Preston Smith had 4 assisted tackles and a half sack. Enagbare had 3 tackles (1 solo), a quarterback hit and a big forced fumble. Gary had 2 tackles (1 solo). All of the outside linebackers looked like they play contain very well. 10 quarterback hits and 3 sacks are respectable pressure numbers, but less so when the opposing quartback drops back 45 times. Indeed, I suspect that most of those QB hits came on perhaps 5 to 7 of Stafford's 45 drop backs (he did not scramble). The Packers cannot get pressure while rushing four. It is bad enough that I took a peek at the contracts of all the defensive players making big money.
LINEBACKERS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Walker | 78 | 100 | 2/9% |
| McDuffie | 46 | 59 | 7/32% |
| Cooper | 30 | 38 | 2/9% |
| Er Wilson | 3 | 4 | 16/73% |
| Hopper | 11/50% |
Walker and McDuffie each had 9 tackles (6 and 3 solo, respectively). Walker had a tackle for loss. McDuffie just got enough of the Ram running back to prevent what looked like an extremely long run. Cooper had 5 tackles (2 solo) and 2 quarterback hits, including a sack. Eric Wilson had 1 assisted tackle. This position group is moving in the right direction. McDuffie is a nice player to have on one's team due to his physicality, but it is good that Cooper is starting to eat into his snaps. I have not been a fan of Quay Walker (I hated the draft pick), but he is roughly an average starting linebacker now. I would not mind if Cooper started to get some of Walker's snaps at some point even though Cooper is a little undersized to play "mike" but there is no reason to put too much on Cooper's plate right now. Hopper's injuries in training camp have set him back.
SECONDARY:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Ev Williams | 78 | 100 | 11/50% |
| McKinney | 78 | 100 | 6/27% |
| Bullard | 57 | 73 | 9/41% |
| Anderson | 16/73% | ||
| Nixon | 78 | 100 | 6/27% |
| Stokes | 55 | 71 | 1/5% |
| Valentine | 41 | 53 | |
| Ballentine | 2 | 3 | 18/82% |
| Rochell | 11/50% | ||
| Olapado | 3/14% |
Evan Williams and McKinney started at safety with Bullard moving to the slot. Nixon started as one perimeter cornerback while Stokes and Valentine rotated on the opposite side. A lot of people were calling for Bullard to move to the slot. The Packers hit a home run when they signed McKinney but drafting Bullard and Williams look like excellent decisions. A lot of people scratched their heads when the Packers traded picks 126 and 190 to move up to pick 111 in order to select Williams after taking Bullard with pick 58. The safety room should be set for some time to come.
I am not as sanguine about the corners. The Packers made rookie 7th-round draft pick Jordan Whittington look very good, and I thought several of his catches came against Stokes. I am not sold on Nixon as a perimeter corner, but I do like his physicality. Once again he did not even make a pretense of getting his head turned aroound; maybe Nixon can get away with that against Tutu Atwell but Justin Jefferson is a different matter. I like Valentine but he can get handsy at times, as evidenced by his pass interference penalty in the end zone. It will be interesting to see who moves where when Alexander returns.
McKinney intercepted one pass and returned it 28 yards, and he broke up another pass and recovered a fumble. He had 3 tackles (2 solo). Evan Williams made a lot of nice plays against both the run and the pass. He had 10 tackles (4 solo) and he also broke up 2 passes. Bullard had 7 tackles (4 solo). Nixon had 5 tackles (4 solo), a tackle for loss and a passed defensed. That is a good stat line. Valentine had an assisted tackle but he also had a solo tackle that does not show up in the regular stats because it was on a 2-point conversion. Nevertheless, his tackle on Tutu Atwell to deny the 2 points was big. Valentine only got a hand on Atwell, but that's the probablem with 165-pound wide receivers - they go down as easily as Luke Musgrave. That kept the Packers ahead by 5 instead of narrowing the lead to 3.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Narveson made all of his extra points and was right down the middle from 46 yards out on his field goal attempt.. Whelan again came back down to earth by punting 4 times for a net of 37 with one inside the 20.
WR: 2.78
RB 1.05
TE: 1.17
DL: 1.97
Edge: 2.03
LB: 2.01
DB: 4.98
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Comments (34)
Thegreatreynoldo
October 07, 2024 at 06:39 am
Coldworld advised that Love was 11 for 15 for 217 yards and a touchdown when the Rams didn't blitz and 4 of 7 for 11 yards and an interception when the Rams blitzed per Next Gen Stats. Expect teams to blitz GB until they show it doesn't pay. My personal thought is the return of Watson would help the most and then Doubs.
I don't know what happens to Nixon if and when Bullard takes over the slot with Williams staring at safety. This year I imagine it is Nixon to the sideline. If Stokes departs in 2025, I suspect they keep Nixon since he is cheap ($4.7M due in cash for 2025) for a perimeter CB and not all that much even if he is the backup slot and perimeter CB.
Both lines could use reinforcements. I would prefer not to use a first round pick on yet another corner. How about a DL, Edge or OL?
jannesbjornson
October 07, 2024 at 09:20 am
He may be moved by Halloween? They best draft a CB with the #One pick in 2025. Maybe add another in Rd Two. Look to free agency for pass rush help. Get a veteran.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 10:16 am
I am starting to wonder if they will activate Ford, and get heavier up front. They aren’t getting penetration up the middle consistently and they aren’t stout versus the run.
If Gary can’t turn it around then we may need to retool, because Van Ness is invisible and not double teamed. Smith is decent but older, but seems to have adapted better than Clark or Gary. Brooks had the best game of the DL, but he’s been up and down. That was an incredibly vanilla use of the DL through three quarters . I think Hadley needs to get more creative if their instinct isn’t carrying them. So far it isn’t.
Nixon outside was horrid for the most part. How we didn’t get penalized for his break up in the end zone I still can’t figure out. He lacks any. Kind of instinct for the ball when not facing the play and his hips are stiff. That he was starting outside was pretty ridiculous. Valentine needs the snaps and has shown himself better. I thought Stokes had a pretty good day.
Lphill
October 07, 2024 at 02:41 pm
Nixon is a liability playing 78 snaps.
RCPackerFan
October 07, 2024 at 06:53 am
Couple of quick thoughts.
- I'm surprised Melton didn't get more snaps at WR.
- I'm surprised Wooden got more snaps then Slaton, when Wooden has been a healthy scratch most of the game so far.
- Why doesn't Mosby get any snaps at OLB? Its not like our pass rush is exactly thriving right now. I'd like to see him get at least a few snaps a game.
- Cooper needs to replace McDuffie! They need to swap the amount of snaps they are getting. Cooper is too good to not be on the field. McDuffie isn't good enough to be on the field as much as he has been.
- I'd like to see Hopper get some opportunities on defense.
- Need to get Williams on the field more without taking Bullard off the field.
dobber
October 07, 2024 at 10:07 am
"Cooper needs to replace McDuffie!"
They've already pushed Wilson to the sideline with Cooper.
"Need to get Williams on the field more without taking Bullard off the field."
Says he played 100% of the snaps yesterday. He needs to give 110%!! ;)
While the roles were somewhat different, this suggests he's supplanted Bullard on the depth chart.
LambeauPlain
October 07, 2024 at 03:39 pm
I don't know about you, Dobber...but I thought Williams played better in camp and in games than Bullard (who I know played very little in PS games as a penciled in starter).
The kid has great instincts, decent speed and even better read and react skills. He is the perfect Padawan to Jedi X. And this is not to sell Bullard short at all. Both are excellent young players.
The old football adage "It all starts up front" is true...and it may be true for the Pack Attack D as we go...but right now the Packers' D starts with the "down back" due to great coverage and excellent tackling and of course turnovers, the great equalizer.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 04:52 pm
I would start Williams next to McKinney. Not that Bullard has been bad, but Williams has natural instincts to a degree that is priceless in a S. Bullard is the natural slot option, though that may take time.
T7Steve
October 07, 2024 at 06:54 am
Thanks, TGR. You seem happier with the O-line play than I do. Against the worst run D in the NFL, they virtually had to give it up and pass. 78-59 snaps and one third down conversion kind of tells the story.
The D getting run on a little seemed like a good Idea because they needed to protect the depleted backfield. The D giving up only 13 points is pretty impressive against any NFL squad. They seem to take the whole first half before they start to be a force and still have a hard time getting off the field.
Thegreatreynoldo
October 07, 2024 at 07:36 am
Fair enough. I thought they were adequate against the worst run D in the NFL. I didn't mean that as a ringing endorsement. I stand bu the pass blocking.
Edit: Looks like more people have your perception of how the OL did. If someone has the stat on how often Love was under pressure, that would be interesting.
T7Steve
October 07, 2024 at 08:11 am
The Rams have a great pass rush, but if Love was still hobbled, he'd have had to stand in the pocket like Stafford did and it might not have been pretty.
Speaking of pass rush, I wish we could have gotten to Stafford more often but then they would have been able to get even more yards and plays on the ground.
dobber
October 07, 2024 at 10:11 am
I haven't seen pressures, but I suspect they're going to be out of line with the number of hits and sacks.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 10:29 am
Next Gen had him pressured at an incredibly low rate. 8 times to be exact. The damage came from blitzes. The OL wasn’t particularly good at picking them up, but they had a pretty easy task in conventional sets. Their best rusher is a rookie and made a lot of mistakes holding the edge and was poor in the run game. I know you’ve referenced it, but I will repeat the Next Gen stats:
“The Rams defense generated 8 pressures on 29 dropbacks against the Packers. When the Rams did not blitz, Jordan Love was 11-of-15 for 217 yards with both touchdown passes. When the Rams blitzed, Love was 4-of-11 for 7 yards with an interception.”
Bear
October 07, 2024 at 04:36 pm
TGR, from the rams site.
The Rams had their highest blitz rate (41.4%) but lowest pressure rate (27.6%) of the season.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 05:02 pm
PFF is pretty rude about all but Jenkins and Walker. The other 3 were in their worst performing 5. I am not sure I can argue too much. For me the left side was the standout live. They graded Walker the highest generally (68.1) and as the best run blocker. Live, I thought Jenkins stood out in the run game, but both were good. Per PFF
1. C Josh Myers: 38.5
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4. RT Zach Tom: 52.1
5. RG Sean Rhyan: 53.
Myers gave up two pressures in the passing game and earned a very poor run blocking grade.
Tom had a false start and allowed four pressures, including a sack. He was graded poorly in the run game.
Rhyan gave up two sacks and did not perform well in the run game.
GregC
October 07, 2024 at 07:26 am
I expected this to be a relatively easy win in the manner of the game against the Titans, although of course I know you can't count on easy wins in the NFL. It's not like Alabama vs. Vanderbilt, where you know the outcome ahead of time. Er, wait....
Very interesting to see Javon Bullard moved into the slot, but if it means moving Nixon to the outside, I'm not in favor of it. I don't think Bullard is going to be much better than Nixon in the slot, and Nixon does not appear to have the skills to be a good boundary corner. It seemed a little strange to have him playing there in training camp, and even stranger for him to be there in regular season games. He's not a total disaster, but as you noted, he looks out of place on the outside. He looks closer to a box safety than a boundary corner, but really, he's just a slot guy. Eric Stokes seemed okay in the first two or three games but has been getting exposed more and more.
Agreed that the linebacker position is trending in the right direction--tentatively, at least. More Edgerrin Cooper is a good thing. But it's too bad that Ty'Ron Hopper is not getting any snaps at all.
I know that one of the trademarks of the Hafley defense is for the defensive linemen to penetrate and get into the backfield, but that did not seem to be working for them in this game. Several times I saw them go shooting into the backfield, leaving a gap for the ballcarrier to run through. Bad run defense is almost like part of the Packers' DNA at this point, regardless of the DC and the personnel.
dobber
October 07, 2024 at 10:13 am
"Nixon does not appear to have the skills to be a good boundary corner. It seemed a little strange to have him playing there in training camp, and even stranger for him to be there in regular season games"
With Jaire out, Rochell getting hurt early, and Valentine on what appeared to be a pitch count, that left little else on the shelf.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 10:33 am
He started. Rochell was not injured before the game and came back in the second half after being cleared for a stinger, but wasn’t used on D. Valentine played 40 odd snaps, so I don’t think particularly limited. Starting Nixon should be the absolute last resort. He was incredibly lucky that he was not called on the end zone break up when it hit him. He was playing the receiver with no attempt to locate the ball. He doesn’t turn his head and has very stiff hips. He has no feel for the ball when he’s not facing the QB. What he does well is run support and reading the QB. Hafley needs to be realistic.
GregC
October 07, 2024 at 11:22 am
Corey Ballentine was healthy and played only two snaps. I would rather see him out there than Nixon.
tobinrote
October 07, 2024 at 07:26 am
so in the end our first stringers beat the Rams' second team. what would we have done with their two great wideouts in the game? what are we paying Gary per tackle? we get no pass rush at all. i guess also they have wisely decided that Musgrave is a bust but they got a real TE with Kraft. still too early to call Van Ness a bust but he sure as hell is not a number 1 pick, and i agree with TGR on Walker. sure is nice to see good safety play; we hit on Bullard and Williams it seems.
Guam
October 07, 2024 at 09:53 am
I noted this in another thread, but I am not so sure the Packers had a big "injury" advantage over the Rams. The Rams were without their top two WRs, but the Packer were without Watson, Doubs and Musgrave. The Rams were without three O-line starters, but the Packer secondary was without Alexander and had Nixon and Bullard playing new positions and Williams making his first start. Maybe a slight advantage to the Packers, but nowhere near first stringers versus second stringers.
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 10:57 am
The advantage on paper should have been our DL versus their makeshift OL. In reality that’s the really worrying sign and not a new one. Is it Hafley, the players or both?
Guam
October 07, 2024 at 07:53 am
TGR: Just a note on the backward pass from Love that lost 12 yards. It looked like Love was hit as he released the ball which caused it to be well behind Reed. Without the hit, Reed was roughly parallel to Love and it should have been a forward pass. OTOH, Love's other mistake truly was horrible................
I am not quite as enamored with the O-line play, I thought Love was under pressure much of the day and in the first half the O-line struggled to open holes against the worst run defense in the league. I think Walker has regressed a bit and Jenkins has been inconsistent. Oddly, Rhyan and Myers have been okay. I think Leatherhead may get his way when Morgan is ready to play - I think he may challenge Walker for playing time rather than Rhyan.
I continue to be concerned with the edge rushers. They are just not generating much pressure and that will hurt this defense against better offenses. Only Engbare has had some really good games and he hasn't been consistent in every game.
GregC
October 07, 2024 at 08:15 am
Maybe Morgan could challenge Walker at LT, but he wasn't even practicing at tackle once they got a couple weeks into training camp. Goddam pop-up ads, I lost my first post. It's a constant fight against this site's pop-up ads and my phone's autocorrect feature.
Guam
October 07, 2024 at 08:59 am
I think the perceived need was at RG, not LT during training camp. However Morgan exclusively played LT in college and was a starter at that position for multiple years. I would be surprised if Morgan can't play LT in the pros. Walker needs to perform better or he might find Morgan pushing him. (OMG, I sound like Leatherhead!)
And yeah, my phone's autocorrect drives me nuts too.
jannesbjornson
October 07, 2024 at 09:30 am
If they move anybody inside , it should be Walker. Morgan has the footwork and quick positioning to play the LT spot where he was drafted to play. Tom, was also knocked on his ass a couple times on Sunday. We will see how this group shapes up.
stockholder
October 07, 2024 at 09:50 am
This will come down to moving Walker.
Why - Morgan is a Bust if he doesn't play LT.
jannesbjornson
October 07, 2024 at 10:26 am
You have to be played at the spot to begin with. The shoulder injury set him back and playing him out of position, doesn't bring anything to the competition. Once again, this team needs a Fullback, lead dog and a guy who can 1:1 the LBs on the wheel routes.
Thegreatreynoldo
October 08, 2024 at 12:34 am
Nah, there is nothing wrong with drafting a starting guard with pick 25. If Jordan Morgan ends up being a starting guard instead of a tackle, that would be fine,
Coldworld
October 07, 2024 at 11:05 am
Walker has performed extremely well in pass pro. He was one of the league leaders going into yesterday. His issue was with penalties, particularly on run downs. He had none yesterday. I don’t see him being dislodged if that continues.
It may be a coincidence, but the injury to Morgan allowing Rhyan to just play seems to have done wonders for Rhyan. He’s not perfect but he’s been a whole lot better just left to play and it seems to be helping Myers too. The accepted wisdom that OLs need to play together consistently may just have something to it, individually in terms of Rhyan and as a unit. I hope that Stenovich has grasped that after messing around last season and into this one. I hope we never see that again.
dobber
October 07, 2024 at 10:21 am
It was my thought on the "backward pass" that the DL's inertia drove the pass backward on the hit. My understanding was that this is a judgement call by the ref as to whether the impact caused the backward motion, and thus could have been called an incomplete pass.
As for the pick-6, I don't know if he was trying to get the ball back to the LOS to avoid the sack/grounding in the end zone , or whether he was legitimately trying to complete a pass. He could've easily gone more to the sideline if he wasn't trying to complete a pass.
The OL doesn't handle pressure well, and the Packers didn't use 12 personnel very much (it seemed like the Rams used 12 a lot, but it might just be limited attention paid to it). That seems like the most direct thing they could do aside from moving players. They're going to see a lot of pressure going forward, and Arizona uses a lot of blitzes.
Rowanlebsackl
October 07, 2024 at 09:06 pm
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Thegreatreynoldo
October 08, 2024 at 12:57 am
PFF stuff:
1. RB Josh Jacobs: 78.3
2. TE Tucker Kraft: 75.3
3. RB Emanuel Wilson: 71.8
4. WR Jayden Reed: 71.6
5. LT Rasheed Walker: 68.1
1. C Josh Myers: 38.5
2. QB Jordan Love: 51.1
3. WR Malik Heath: 51.1
4. RT Zach Tom: 52.1
5. RG Sean Rhyan: 53.3
1. DL TJ Slaton: 89.3
2. S Xavier McKinney: 88.3
3. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 85.5
4. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 84.4
5. S Evan Williams: 81.9
1. DL Karl Brooks: 38.6
2. CB Eric Stokes: 41.7
3. DB Javon Bullard: 45.2
4. CB Carrington Valentine: 51.2
5. DL Colby Wooden: 52.0
Surprises/(PFF thinks I'm an idiot):
A) Bullard. PFF says Bullard missed a tackle and allowed 5 completions.
B) Brooks. He filled the stat line (4 pressures, 1.5 sacks) but his run defense "dragged down his overall grade." Heck, his run defense must have been a damn anchor. An iceberg?
C) OL. Myers (38), Tom (52) Rhyan (53). Okay, so maybe adequate was too nice.
D) Slaton. I didn't notice the elite play PFF suggested he played at.
E) Kraft and Reed. I thought they were better than 75 and 71 grades.
Otherwise, the grades don't surprise me too much. There seems to be a consensus that adequate is too generous of a way to describe the offensive line.
[Edited] DOUBS:
Suspending Doubs opened a roster spot on the 53 which was taken by Robert Rochell. It appears that Doubs will report for practice on Wednesday, and thus reclaim his roster spot. So, GB released Robert Rochell. He is a vested veteran so he does not have to go through waivers. Therefore, the Packers can re-sign him to the practice squad immediately.
Rochell committed a holding penalty but also drew a holding penalty on STs. Rochell might have been my favorite player from training camp and the one player I thought should have made the 53. (That was a numbers game so I get why he didn't make the team.)
dobber
October 08, 2024 at 09:07 am
I've always been more than a little skeptical of ratings systems and how the rubrics assess players. I've started trying to add the fraction of snaps played to PFF grades just to get a feel for where the contributions are coming from and where the individual grades might be impacted by actual amount of time on the field (or lack thereof). So...
PFF stuff:--with added % of snaps played ( % )
Hi Offense
1. RB Josh Jacobs: 78.3. (75)
2. TE Tucker Kraft: 75.3. (85)
3. RB Emanuel Wilson: 71.8 (25)
4. WR Jayden Reed: 71.6 (76)
5. LT Rasheed Walker: 68.1. (100)
Lo Offense
1. C Josh Myers: 38.5. (100)
2. QB Jordan Love: 51.1. (100)
3. WR Malik Heath: 51.1. (76)
4. RT Zach Tom: 52.1. (100)
5. RG Sean Rhyan: 53.3. (100)
I'll agree with TGR in that the eye-test for what was going on in game for the OL was a little more telling than the stat sheet. Three OL were rated below average by the PFF metrics, which--even if you don't put a lot into PFF--is more than a little damning. I'd have to go back and look at the scores for other weeks, though. Supposedly 60 is an "average" player performance by PFF standards, so while 50s are not good, they aren't abysmal, and this only rates one player as being truly bad. Still, a huge chunk of snaps is represented in the low end and not so much on the high end.
Hi Defense
1. DL TJ Slaton: 89.3. (35)
2. S Xavier McKinney: 88.3. (100)
3. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 85.5. (38)
4. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 84.4. (36)
5. S Evan Williams: 81.9. (100)
Lo Defense
1. DL Karl Brooks: 38.6. (59)
2. CB Eric Stokes: 41.7. (71)
3. DB Javon Bullard: 45.2. (73)
4. CB Carrington Valentine: 51.2 (53)
5. DL Colby Wooden: 52.0. (38)
The defense is much harder to correlate as the Packers--and most teams--rotate defensive personnel at a much higher rate than they do offensive personnel (that's influenced heavily by the fact that most teams don't rotate OL, QB, or #1 WR very much). Still, this evaluation points to three players having bad days, and all three were among the highest numbers of snaps for the defense, while the highest rated players overall were on the defensive side, even though three were only part-time players. Kingsley Enagbare continues to show up...he's passing the eye test and making plays.