Packers: 38 Bears: 17

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Packers' win over the Bears.

Aaron Rodgers, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson

Letroy Guion, Micah Hyde, Davon House

Jay Cutler

 

 

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Nerd's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:10 pm

-Richard Rodgers is doing all right for a rookie.

-I'm not so hard on House. Him and Richardson have the size to match up with those big WRs from Chicago. Didn't see Richardson all game, except one ST play iirc.

-Hyde was ok too, although I think it's time to give Dix more time at S.

-This team needs a NT.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:37 pm

I thought I saw Hyde miss a few tackles today. His coverage left room for improvement, too. On the positive side I think he ran a kick past the 20.

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 29, 2014 at 06:18 am

Honestly, I think the Packers need to make the switch to Clinton-Dix full time at Safety. Maybe use Hyde in Dime or something, but I think we are at the point when we need to see more of Clinton-Dix and less of Hyde.

I really think a match up that would work would be to use Richardson on the TE's. He has the size to match up with them.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:07 am

I'm on board with seeing more of Clinton-Dix.

I'm not so sure whether we should see less of Hyde or Burnett. Both have been disappointing to me. Maybe see if the jump Sean Richardson showed in camp can translate into game situations.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:24 pm

Call me a man from the North, I don't care, but two down linemen on fourth and inches doesn't make sense to me.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:24 pm

I'd give the refs the ugly.

Cutler was ok considering he's Cutler. He'll make some throws and throw a few INTs. Just another day at the office for Cutler.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:25 pm

Relace Hyde with Dix.Give Pennel more playing to replace zombies on line .Hawk has to go.Perry ouside Matthews inside.Refs are ugly.Defense is ugly the need a drastic shakeup

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:42 pm

Not saying much, but I thought Hawk had one of his better games. Pretty solid today I thought.

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White92's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:27 am

Hawk seems like one of the few guys that wrap up

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 29, 2014 at 06:21 am

I agree with replacing Hyde and Clinton-Dix.
Pennel, I would like to see play more, but when he was in yesterday he didn't show me to much.
Hawk has actually played well overall the last 3 weeks.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:32 pm

Need to get Richardson more reps,he should replace waste of money Burnette by eoy

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:33 pm

Need to get Richardson more reps,he should replace waste of money Burnette by eoy

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Tundraboy's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:28 pm

I am hoping much much sooner for that. In fact. By eoy, say for Christmas I am hoping for anyone to replace Hawk!!!! . He gets ten tackles because the line gets blown up. Then maybe with Pennell, Dix, Lattimore...the middle of our d willl actually be a plus not a huge albatross.

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zoellner25's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:40 pm

good = Corey linsley just blasting guys.

Bad = the field.

Ugly = our run defense. How goddamn hard is it? Apparently, waaaaaay too hard for our lackluster DL

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 29, 2014 at 06:25 am

I noticed this as well... I think Capers needs to change up his Nickel Defense when teams can run the ball on them. Maybe go to more of a 3-3 look, vs. 2-4. The front is just not stout enough to hold up against the run.

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing him do, is to do a Hybrid Nickel. I would do 3 DL, 2 OLB, 1 ILB, and 3 Safety's. Make Richardson the 3rd safety and have him basically there to cover the TE's. He also has enough size that he could help against the run.

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Zola Davis's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:09 am

Good luck with your 9 man defense!

Just like 2009, if the defense can create 2-3 turnovers each game, the offense will outscore. 2 Ints plus the recovered onside kick pretty much amount to 3 turnovers (I know that's literally incorrect, but work with me).

Last year the Pack started out with a poor running game too; but whether MM prefers to save it, or if the OL and RB need to get synch'd, it came around when the weather got colder and gave a nice result. I would think that tackling Lacy is harder when its colder. I'm not worried.

For this game, I kept calm remembering the famous words of Sir Charles Woodson: "Jay will be Jay, we just need to wait for him". Perfect!

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:51 am

I didn't realize i had to put every player on there. Basically i was just talking about DL, LB's and S.

What I am just saying is that when teams are able to spread you out and able to run the ball, they have to find a better way personnel wise to match up to stop the run. Using 3 DL would definitely help.
I really think Richardson could play a tweener role between ILB and S, so adding him in a package could help that.

Now in this game they did sacrifice giving up yards in the run in order to contain Marshall and Jeffrey, which they really did do a great job. They forced interceptions, nearly had a fumble recovery also. They gave up yards but only gave up 17 points.

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PackerBacker's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:16 am

They were forced to play 2-4 fronts with nickel backs all day because of the firepower at WR/TE in Chicago. If the Bears were going to beat us, it was going to be through the air, not on the ground. The game proved it. We gave up huge chunks of land to the run, but a few TO's negated all of that hard running. Gotta play the odds and with those receivers, you concentrate on the pass.

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Bohj's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:48 am

Our scheme against the bears is to play bend but don't break. You know why? Because it has worked against Jay Cutler since he has been there. Eventually you'll get "Good ole Jay" as Woodson used to say.
And guess what? He delivered again....in spades. Nickel did its job. We will most likely win that shootout every time.

I'm okay with letting Forte run a little bit. We invited the run. I don't like to see Guion getting blown off his spot by like five yards. That would not happen to Raji.

Also: I would put Jay Cutler in the Good....not the ugly. He is so good for the Packers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 30, 2014 at 01:33 am

I got used to seeing Raji blown off the LOS by 5 yards last year, and the year before that too.

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zoellner25's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:54 pm

I think we all expect a little better than ABSOLUTELY [email protected] GASHED

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PackerBacker's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:17 am

Better gashed on the ground, than in the air.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 08:55 pm

Crappy ass scheme,piss poor execution,Capers last stand

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4thand1's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:08 pm

What it like to find something to whine about all the time? It must suck.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:14 pm

You will whining again come playoffs if they manage not to totally self destruct on defense

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Lphill's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:16 pm

Hawk had about 12 tackles today does his job out there, Datone Jones and Nick Perry are just non factors on the field. Daniels talks the talk but doesnt do the walk.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:18 pm

Courlrse Hawk tackling 9 yards down field.

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zerotolerance's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:41 pm

And if he was not there, add on another 10.

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PackerAaron's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:18 pm

Disagree on Datone and Daniels. They've been playing well.

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KenEllis's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:27 pm

Is Hawk's job never to make a tackle within 7 yards of the line of scrimmage?

If so, I agree he is doing his job because when you need a linebacker to jump on a pile 10-15 yards downfield AJ is your man as he has been throughout his career.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:36 pm

Hawk, made a couple of plays at the line today. Also Datone had a sack, and an overall good game.

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PackerAaron's picture

September 29, 2014 at 12:45 am

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:17 pm

Oh wait we just have to correct that pad level we be allright

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Snackpack's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:58 pm

Dude, we got a big win in Chicago against a team that had been pretty good up until today. Packers offense was finally clicking and looked dangerous despite the poor run performance, and the defense had two turnovers and held the Bears to 17 points. No, it wasn't perfect, BUT WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!!

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Course your forgetting Cutler gift wrapped that game to GB.

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:27 pm

The turf and the refs were absolutely butt ugly today.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:35 pm

While the defense definitely has room for improvement, the results have been great the last two weeks. 19 points vs the lions, and 17 vs the Bears. Not bad

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DoURant's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:31 pm

And technically, only 10 points last week against the Lions, their defense accounted for 9 of their 19. If MM's and Capers plan was to not get beat by Marshall and Jeffery, today, then they succeeded. It sure was tough to watch them put up 235 on the ground though. Also, the Jets only scored 3 points after that little over a quarter of kicking our butts to start the game.

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gary's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:37 pm

The DL has no chance to stop run when capers plays mostly 2 DL . To many small bodies on field. Never seen a 4th and one with only two dl before. There's a difference between whining and being honest. Wish TT would have brought in a run stuffer on the DL. He's to worried about signing next years free agent's. I have said it here before that the pack should go all out to win with rogers still in prime. This defense isn't good enough to go very far this year. All we can do is hope for the best.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:48 pm

TT had Raji, who looked like he would be pretty good. I don't think anyone thought his backup plans in FA Guion, and Boyd would be this bad. Who knows, maybe Pennel is the answer, or maybe he tries a free agent. Bottom line is we won by a wide margin, created turnovers, and have improved at safety and ilb. There is a long way to go before the defense is world class, but there is hope to gleam from these last couple games.

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KenEllis's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:17 pm

I think anyone who watched a Vikings game the past several years KNEW Guion would be this bad.

Guess TT must have been dozing off when we played the Purple 7 times the past 3 years.

For anyone paying attention, Guion was terrible and remains terrible.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:29 pm

Guion at least seemed strong with the Vikings. He has not even been able to hold one blocker, let alone two. Not saying he was good with the Vikings, he was constantly reading the play wrong, and wasn't the best tackler. He has been absolutely horrible. Something even below average would make a big difference.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 10:31 pm

I would like to see the Pennel given a shot. I mean he is huge, and looked like he could occupy blockers in the pre-season. That doesn't neccesarily mean he will duplicate those results, but someone being able to keep an ilb clean would be a huge improvement.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 11:30 pm

15 snaps isn't enough to make a complete judgment on a guy. Im not saying hes great. But I don't know what you expect, the starting nose tackle went out for the year. There is not many teams with world beaters at the backup nose tackle. One of Boyd, or Pennel could make a big enough jump to be passable. Either way its not an indictment on Ted.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 29, 2014 at 01:05 am

Yeah I agree with you, honestly the indictment of Thompson was directed at ken ellis. I didn't look at the name and thought it was him posting. Pennel flashed on the clay int as he put some pressure on cutler up the middle. He looked inconsistent. Overall not a great game in limited snaps, but flashed at times. Hopefully he can just be more than the blocking sled that Guion has been. Still haven't given up on Boyd either, what can I say, im an optimist.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:38 pm

Given the negativity in the comments section, you would never know the Packers beat a very good divisional opponent 38-17.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:41 pm

Thank god we were playing against Cutler,is he now 1-9 vs Packers?

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:49 pm

Yeah, the packers deserve no credit for those 9 wins. Did I stumble on to a troll gathering site or something?

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:39 pm

Sigh Johhny Jolly around,maybe he can play nose

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Point Packer's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:50 pm

Is it just me or does Eddie Lacy look slower? Maybe its just me, but he seems to have next to zero burst out there.

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Brandon Piccione's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:53 pm

He is definitely much more indecisive. The run blocking has left a lot to be desired, but he has got to get moving much quicker, sitting there is not going to get yards, hole, or no hole.

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pooch's picture

September 28, 2014 at 09:57 pm

John Brockington yips after 1 year

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 29, 2014 at 06:31 am

I don't think he necessarily is slower, I think he just isn't as decisive and therefore he is playing slower. He is not seeing the holes he should be hitting. His vision which was impressive last year isn't nowhere the same this year.

There was one run play where he tried bouncing it outside, and if he cut up, he easily would have had 4 yards. But he tried taking it outside, which he gets hit by the TE, and gets nothing for yardage.

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Big Moe's picture

September 29, 2014 at 08:08 am

Most definitely seems mired in a sophomore slump.

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Zola Davis's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:55 am

It took awhile to get rolling last year, too. I'm fine with MM being pass happy now; the running game will roll when we have some crisp, cold air that make Lacy's bruising runs hurt. The defenders will wimp out and do more arm tackling.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 28, 2014 at 11:18 pm

Starks will be fresh in December

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aussiepacker's picture

September 29, 2014 at 12:25 am

What is the go with hawks helmet it comes of every second play every week?

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Point Packer's picture

September 29, 2014 at 08:42 am

Started a drinking game with friends based on this phenomenon.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 29, 2014 at 12:39 am

"I don't think you realize the Packers played nickel D all day long. Not hard to run vs a D w/ only 2 DL, don't you think?" Dan DS 8:47 p.m.

"Agree its impossible to stop the run w/ 2 DL. I don't care if its Pickett and Raji on the DL. You can't expect to stop any running game w/ 2 DL, no matter who they are." DanDS 9:47

"The DL has no chance to stop run when capers plays mostly 2 DL . To many small bodies on field. Never seen a 4th and one with only two dl before." Gary 9:37

So, is it Guion = terrible? Is it scheme = terrible? One could argue that the two are not mutually exclusive. I just thought I would note that Guion's defense is contained in the comments condemning him. Bears had a lot of good runs off right guard and up the middle today.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 30, 2014 at 01:56 am

Precisely. GB by scheming (nickel mostly played against the Bears) seemed willing to let Forte have a good day. If Raji hadn't been injured, it is possible that he (or Pennel, I suppose) would not have made the team. I had hoped that Guion would get better as he knocked the rust off, and he seemed to be doing just that, but he clearly regressed badly against the Bears.

BTW, a lot of those good runs went off the right guard and tackle (A and B gaps), directly at Boyd. Looked to me like Boyd had a bad day, although he was injured, returned and then left the game, so I didn't directly mention him. Nonetheless, Boyd has been a disappointment. No 2nd year jump from him so far.

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Big Moe's picture

September 29, 2014 at 08:15 am

Great win, nothing warms the heart more than watching Soldier Field empty early during a Pack-Bear game bwahaha!!!

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White92's picture

September 29, 2014 at 09:37 am

I was at the game. How sweet it was!

Bear fans howled loudly at the personal foul calls on first (or second?) drive.

Kudos to Mac for going with the 2-2 personnel on first drive after being loudly criticized for going almost exclusively with 1-1 in previous games. Forced the Bears to roll one saftey down at minimum.

Where is Bostick? More 2-2 personnel seems like a winner.

Lovely to see Soldiers empty half way thru the 4th.

Even better to hear almost no trash talk post game. Believe it or not, Bear fans will trash talk even after a close loss. Yesterday, not so much.

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Point Packer's picture

September 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm

Lucky dog, I would have loved to be at this game. I noticed that around the beginning of the 4th, the place was desolate. Good trash talk for my Bear fan friends.

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Point Packer's picture

September 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm

Lucky dog, I would have loved to be at this game. I noticed that around the beginning of the 4th, the place was desolate. Good trash talk for my Bear fan friends.

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September 29, 2014 at 02:19 pm

Linsley showed a lot.!! . With Tretter coming back to play somewhere..... Makings of a nice line. Veteran mix with some young guys with strength and some attitude. . Amazing the difference one game makes in your outlook.

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