Keep Rodgers or Trade him? Packers Fans, Weigh In.

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Should the Packers Try to Keep Rodgers or Trade Him?

Keep him - Russ Ball works some Salary Cap magic
19% (21 votes)
Trade him - Maximize return and move on to a new Packers era.
77% (85 votes)
Irrelevant, he's retiring.
4% (4 votes)
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Roadrunner23's picture

January 26, 2022 at 12:48 pm

Thanks Al :)

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Razer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 12:57 pm

Million(s) dollar question.

Fans need to answer some other questions en route to this final question:

1. Is winning it all a primary condition of cutting a new deal?
2. Are you prepared for the wasteland when it is all over (ala Sean Payton)?
3. Do you trust Rodgers' to commit to new ways?

I am not sure that I can put all the chips in with this guy. Sorry.

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albert999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:03 pm

Is Matt lafleur willing to give up play calling
Or willing to enhance play calling a lot
Is MLF willing to fire people

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Leatherhead's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:03 pm

As always, I'd say fear is a poor counselor and I'm not afraid of a future without Aaron Rodgers. I was a Packer fan before he was born, and God willing, I'll still be cheering on the team after he's dead.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:16 pm

I agree with everything, expect the death upon Rodgers. lol

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:22 pm

After the latest Q babbling, irresponsible rant in the wake of 860K dead and a battle -scarred community of nurses, doctors, public health personnel, epidemiologists et.al. This guy has to be shown the door. Rate that on your asinine amateur mystics blog and Bad Medicine Show.

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Barnacle's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:08 pm

Please trade him.

AR, with the highest paid supporting players did not make it to the Super bowl. Why would you think he could do it with a very much less expensive supporting cast?

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Barnacle's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:08 pm

Please trade him.

AR, with the highest paid supporting players did not make it to the Super bowl. Why would you think he could do it with a very much less expensive supporting cast?

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mnbadger's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:12 pm

Razer was dead on. Invest in the talent, young and veteran that we've got. Especially those that are all in.
I'd like to get a veteran QB in who's talent exceeds his ego - aka - he's coachable and willing to treat all players wearing the green/gold as his equals. We've seen how the QB buddy system is good for a few individuals, but detrimental to the ultimate success of the team/organization.
I won't fault coach MLF for playoff failure (offense anyway) We don't know what plays were sent in and what the read progression is for the plays that were run.
To me, it looked like a failure to move quickly through the route tree. A lot of those sacks and pressures don't happen if he gets it out quickly to the first open read.
Thanks for the memories AR, but I'm so ready to move on. GPG!

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Shinesman's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:42 pm

I said before the season they should acquire Minshew. He would cost peanuts. Is already better than Love. Displays a passion and fire for the game as a leader. Treats all his teammates with respect and really believes in a team. He also would run the offense. And it fits his skill set beautifully.

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Bure9620's picture

January 27, 2022 at 09:36 am

No

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Pack12's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:14 pm

One way or another the Packers will need a QB. Rodgers is 38 and not getting any younger. I realize that it will be a lot more difficult to win games without him but trading him now is best for the long run. Packers can still get multiple picks and or players for him. The team is got big cap problems to which Rodgers is a major contributor and I doubt he would not want a pay increase and guaranteed money to sign again. IMO it’s time to move on!

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Pack12's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:14 pm

One way or another the Packers will need a QB. Rodgers is 38 and not getting any younger. I realize that it will be a lot more difficult to win games without him but trading him now is best for the long run. Packers can still get multiple picks and or players for him. The team is got big cap problems to which Rodgers is a major contributor and I doubt he would not want a pay increase and guaranteed money to sign again. IMO it’s time to move on!

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HarryHodag's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:24 pm

I think part of the trade is to get back a veteran in the deal. If he goes to Denver, Lock(cheaper) Bridgewater(better but more expensive) could be part of it.

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Guam's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:01 pm

Getting a veteran (and his contract) kind of defeats the purpose of clearing cap space doesn't it?

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:18 pm

Absolutely.

The only players the Packers can really take in return are those players who are on cheap, rookie deals. More draft compensation, less players.

Entirely possible that a team with a young QB clears that young QB as part of the deal to open up the QB room for an incoming ARod.

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:46 pm

To a point, depends on the cost. If the purpose is a veteran to do more than bridge a gap, I’d agree.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 28, 2022 at 02:24 pm

No deal with those two involved. They are mediocre at best.

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Philarod's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:16 pm

I voted "keep", have not worked out the logistics, and don't expect many to necessarily agree.
Certainly, I get the "trade" side.

Looking at the ATG QBs of the last 30 or so years, not many were one-team players, which I think is a special thing.
Perhaps, only Elway, Marino, Staubach and Bradshaw, depending on where you draw that line.
Not Favre, Montana, Young, Manning or Brady or even Brees.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:22 pm

Trade him. He has value now for the future. If he retires, zip for the future. If he returns, there isn't much of a future because of the cuts needed to make that happen.

Like Favre, he'll return to Green Bay in five years a hero. Favre played for the freakin' Vikings and he came back a hero.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:07 pm

Not to all of us, Hodag. Some people aren't so quick to forget his crap. Calling the Lions and helping them gameplan for the Packers. Faking retirement. Faking retirement again. Signing with the Vikings so he could "stick it to Thompson". Throwing away multiple seasons with reckless hero ball. Saying "one year in Minnesota is worth 10 in Green Bay".

He can bite me. He was drinking his way out of the league when this franchise plucked him from obscurity and helped make him rich and famous. Nice gratitude.

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jurp's picture

January 27, 2022 at 01:41 pm

100% with you, Leatherhead. Without Wolf, Favre is out of football by 1994.

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Roadrunner23's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:22 pm

THE PACKERS GOT BEAT AT LAMBEAU IN THE COLD BY........ JIMMY G.!

JIMMY G.!!!!!!!!...... AT LAMBEAU WITH A BAD THUMB!

IT IS TIME TO RIP THE BANDAID OFF AND GET WHAT YOU CAN FOR RODGERS!!!!!

THE PACKERS CAN WIN THE NFC NORTH NEXT YEAR WITH AN AVERAGE NFL VETERAN QB WHO PLAYS WITHIN MLF SYSTEM!

GUTEY, GET WHAT YOU CAN FOR RODGERS/ADAMS AND BUILD FOR THE NEAR FUTURE!!!

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Razer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:21 pm

I love the ALL CAPS. The Jimmy G part is some nice salt in the wound.

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pacman's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:26 pm

I wonder what the following poll would result in:

Who is MORE to blame for the loss - AR or MLF?

Al - after this finishes, will you run that one?

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:48 pm

If it includes Drayton under MLF, as it should, it’s MLF in that particular game, but I’m not sure that alters the Rodgers question.

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Gman1976's picture

January 26, 2022 at 04:55 pm

MLF: He didn't fired the ST coach, changed the LT when Nijman did better, and didn't make the offensive adjustments needed. He's a good coach, but not a great one yet.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:21 pm

The decision to start Kelly over Nijman was criminal in my mind.

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jcod3's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:26 pm

The Rodgers era is over! Time to move on. We put the best possible group around him this year and he failed to perform. As Nagler says, time to rip off the bandaid. Let’s extract as much value as we can for him in a trade and go with a defense and running game focused team. Look what the Niner’s did? MLF will probably not like it because we’re entering the 4th year of his contract but we also need to see what he can do when he is in total control of the offense.

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TarynsEyes's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:40 pm

Rodgers is trying for the Packers to give him a new deal that will force them to trade Love and erase any over-the-shoulder-looking Rodgers may have had or developed since Love was drafted.

Rodgers, in his latest interview, stated that retirement is 50/50. This is a clear message to other teams that they should be leery in giving too much compensation for a trade as he may decide to quit, sorry, retire if that team doesn't live to his standards, or what he wants. This lowers the chances of GB getting those many picks so many fantasize about and places the FO in a corner. Extension, trade Rodgers and how for good comps, trade Love for something, or Rodgers retires and gives the team and fans a final FU, as he just did Saturday.

Rodgers wants to be the man, and he doesn't want a one-year lame-duck season, he doesn't want Love crawling on his back, and he doesn't want to retire, he does want the FO to be all-in for him and whatever it takes to get them to bend the knee. His only legacy is the stat sheet hope when he really retires, and he doesn't even retain that if he doesn't continue to play.

Since I don't see an SB victory coming soon or in the next decade, it doesn't matter who the QB is between Rodgers, Love, or who they bring in because this team is or will soon be shredded cheese. Call it a rebuild or reboot, either way, even the Division Title will be harder to grab, if at all, as meaningless as it is anyway.

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Guam's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:04 pm

Taryn,

Not sure I agree with your point that Rodgers is trying mess with the compensation given in a trade. I think it more likely that he is trying to manage what team he is traded to. I suspect he wants a situation like Brady got - a team with other pieces but no QB and decent cap space.

The "warn-off" about retirement is to keep teams that don't have the right pieces from bidding for his services.

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:51 pm

He is trying to send messages, as is his way. Remind people that he doesn’t have to go anywhere and make it clear he’s watching Developments with Adams. I agree, he’s trying to set himself up to be on the high ground if he chooses to leave or retire.

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:01 pm

He knows the Packers will say very little, and what they do say will toe the party line.

He's in almost complete control of the narrative until he either signs, retires, or is traded.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:31 pm

dobber, control is an illusion. Ultimately, Rodgers is under contract and he can either play next year for someone, somewhere, or he can retire and let the Last Dance be his final time on the stage.. I don't think he'll do that. I think he didn't want it to end like this but it did.

As Bob Seger said.....turn the page.

It is to everybody's benefit to work cooperatively to make this happen. We all know that there's finances to consider, and timing, and there's a lot of moving parts to this. Rodgers wants a fresh start in a fresh locale with Shailene. He wants to play for a contender <cough> Denver. The Packers want to see what they have in Love, and get compensation in trade, and get salary cap relief.

Everybody wins. Rodgers can move on or quit, and he doesn't seem like a quitter to me.

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 28, 2022 at 10:02 am

I know it looks as though Denver is the likely landing spot for an Aaron Rodgers trade, but don't dismiss the Colts or Dolphins or any number of teams. Seems like there is always a surprise team or two. This could end up being the biggest deal of this century.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if AR got a conglomerate of people together to buy the Broncos.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:28 pm

Yep the Dolphins in my mind may be the wildest card at the table. Their owner wants a championship bad, and he's not getting any younger. Guys like him can only stay on the sidelines for so long, before they have to get hands on. Plus they have the cap space to make that spicy meatball work. Spilly Talker say hello..

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:54 pm

Just like Favre.. Hell, just like Rodgers used to give the impression everything was MM's fault in his post game conferences- he intentionally uses misleading language and relies on the fact he knows the organization won't throw him under the bus.

This is the reality the organization understands, as it did with the Favre situation as well: Rodgers, just like Favre, will always be tied to the Green Bay Packers. He's a part of the history. And frankly, he's a revenue stream for the future. It is in the Packers best interests to limit the damage to their star players' reputations as much as possible.

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:02 pm

Rodgers is trying for the Packers to give him a new deal that will force them to trade Love.?? I don't believe that is the case. I feel it has more to do with the Cap.

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:58 pm

Weren't you the guy who has been languishing that the mortal sin, the colossal fuck up committed by Gute was signing Jordan Love and making Aaron Rodgers upset?

If you believe everything sour in this relationship stems from the horrific, unthinkable act of Gutekunst drafting a QB in round 1 is what has so greatly upset Rodgers and threatened his desire to stay in GB, why on earth wouldn't you venture to believe it a possibility that Rodgers might want Love gone?

Really?

I don't personally think Rodgers wants love gone per se, but he knows if the Packers extend him, Love isn't going to remain on the roster. That said, the paradox in your takes is remarkable.

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:22 pm

He has made it public about how he feels about Jordan Love. He's done nothing but support him publicly. My thinking was; Gute should have followed the Draft Gurus advice that draft. Thats where I've always come from.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 27, 2022 at 04:29 am

He made publicly about how he feels of everything, but when execution of what he said comes to present, he always lull!

For example, he said that Alen Lazard is very reliable player and he threw 1 (ONE) throw to him whole game, he said that he need Randall Cobb (he got him) and he threw 1 (ONE) incomplete pass that should be intercepted to him in 60 minutes, he said that Nyman played well and that he trusts him and then we saw Billy Turner on the LT for the last game, guy who was injured and rust and out of his position (I doubt Stenavich supported that change), he said he will never again play for Packers and he did, whole season, he said he is immunized, what is not correct term for what he did to prevent illness - that does not have nothing with immunization, counting that people will think he was vaccinated.

So his public announcements are full of deep poo-poo and smells bad. Never keep his words and never gave true statements, just statement that he believe will be accepted well in public. He is master of speaking deceptions.

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Gee's picture

January 30, 2022 at 02:01 pm

Umm, how is who plays LT come down to Rodgers? I get you are someone that wants Rodgers strapped to rocket and sent away, but come on, that's all Matt.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:50 pm

May I suggest another consensus?

Should the Packers Try to Trade Rodgers or Trade Him?

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Point-Packer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 01:54 pm

Jordan Love isn't the answer to the next era, but hopefully whoever the Pack trade him to gives GB a bunch of draft picks and then tanks - perhaps due to a Rodgers injury. Get a high pick, take a QB. Start era #3 of breaking Packer fan's hearts by constant underachieving in the playoffs. Sign me up...

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:03 pm

Love might be the answer. He might not. Gotta try him out a find out.
You may not remember how the majority of Packers fans were sure Rodgers was a bum, but they did. Not just when he was drafted. Not just after year two. It was 4-5 years before the majority of Packers fans started thinking maybe Rodgers could be a good QB. The point being, you don't have any idea if Love is the answer or not. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

For what it's worth, I think Packers fans are so accustomed to living and dying by the arm of the QB they don't even know you can win a football game without a diva whipping the ball all over the place. I want to see the next version of the Packers defined by an excellent defense and a stout run game, led by a worksman like QB who has the ability to move the sticks and take the occasional shot over the top when opportunity presents itself.

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NickPerry's picture

January 27, 2022 at 05:41 am

"For what it's worth, I think Packers fans are so accustomed to living and dying by the arm of the QB they don't even know you can win a football game without a diva whipping the ball all over the place."

Love this part of Oppy's comment. Hell, it's not that I don't know you can win a game that way, it's I FORGOT you can win a game that way. Probably the last time that happened for the Packers, was in the Lombardi era.

The year Ahman Green rushed for over 1800 yards may be an example, but without looking it up, I can't recall Favre's stats or how well the defense played. Wasn't that the 4th and 26 year?

Whatever the case, I'm DEFINITELY ready for a QB moving the sticks, an excellent Defense, and a stout running game version of the Packers....

Oh, and a NEW ST coach!!!!

Thank you Aaron Rodgers. You're a complicated fella and the Packers future IS a beautiful mystery. But it should be one without you.

TRADE Rodgers and don't look back.

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albert999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:11 pm

Trade him and get all you can now
Problem is they have stated publically already they want him to stay so it’s 100% up to him if he gets traded or not
That sucks…They showed their cards to soon

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:19 pm

That's just PR speak - to make it appear that Packers have some leverage. No big deal.

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:22 pm

What are they going to say?
"We need to get this guy out of our locker room, so give us a sweaty gym bag and he's yours?"
THAT'S showing your cards.

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:55 pm

In a perfect world, I think they would want to keep him at least for another year. In the real world of contracts and cap, their are other considerations that change things. In this case I think the impending roster roll over and cap do change things.

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albert999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:58 pm

Say nothing

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MN_Pack_Fan's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:17 pm

Keep him if he's willing to sign a team friendly contract. Yes, we will lose a lot of players to free agency/cap hits but the o-line will improve with Bakh and Jenkins coming back and the rookies being more experienced. The defense should still be good, maybe even better with the return of Jaire.

The Broncos took 4 years to win the SB after they signed Manning in 2012 with a couple home playoff losses in the divisional round and were considered disappointments but then they finally broke through in their 4th year with Manning. Could see the same happening in the 4th year of the Rodgers/MLF era.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 27, 2022 at 04:33 am

Only is he accept to cancel signed contract and play another year for vet minimum. That would be the only way I would accept him back! And with no influence on decision of HC or GM. I'll give him right to state his opinion and the opinion will be take in consideration, not in the discussion.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:23 pm

The Rodgers era has run its course. The timing to put together its best chance to win a SB was never at its highest than this year. Rodgers wasn’t to blame for this loss, but he certainly didn’t win it either. Get what you can for AR and trade for Wilson or Carr. Love gives no appearance of stepping up. Should he progress unexpectedly, his trade value increases. For me, Rodgers fatigue has set in.

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majik7's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:32 pm

No offense but, think of him as a racehorse with only so many good years left, with a value that will soon be 0. Yes you maybe able to win some purses here and there but you can also trade him now for 4-5 yearlings that could also be stars.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:01 pm

I have generally found that racehorses are more attractive and better athletes than Rodgers - so no offense taken.

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:36 pm

Usually racehorses don't look like they're having a mid-life crisis when they get gray and their mane gets too long.

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:45 pm

They can be temperamental though.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 26, 2022 at 04:06 pm

So true. Then again there is the famous "Whirlaway" - who was known as "Mr. Longtail" because his tail was especially long and thick and it would blow far out behind him during races, flowing dramatically in the wind. He was voted the American Champion Two-Year-Old Colt in 1940. Rodgers would be most fortunate to have a similar pedigree or coiffure.

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gpt999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:44 pm

While I was a staunch Rodgers fan at the beginning of the season, I am not now. Trade him. Not because of his vaccination status. But because of the drama and his ego. Frankly, I don't care if we had gone17-0 this season. He looked disinterested in the playoffs and only wanted to throw to Adams seriously limiting this teams' chances of victory.

And if GB were to get a team friendly contract from AR, I would not resign Adams. When Adams isn't on the field, Rodgers is unstoppable on offense as he distributes to many weapons. But I have a strong feeling that he is trying to maneuver a situation where they are both together again. This would KILL our cap situation now and set us up for the same results in the playoffs - assuming the team had enough of a roster to qualify for the post season.

Build for the long run - not just the next season or two. Its time for Aaron and GB to part amiably. Hopefully, GB management will come to the same conclusion.

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Michael Nault's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:49 pm

Trade him for what ever they can get. My opinion is they should have traded him a lot sooner. But especially before the season started when he pulled his crap

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ImFubared's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:00 pm

Two years ago on this board I remember posting something that I said most would not agree with, trade Rodgers now while the value is high. Your going to have to rebuild sooner or later, you could have gottenmprobaly s 1,2 and 3 pick. Coupled with your own, you could have bundled and moved up high in the draft for a young qb like Herbert, a top linebacker and a very good dfensive end for starters. Doesn't seem so far fetched now. he didn't deliver any sb's in the past two years.

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stormin's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:52 pm

If it were not for Rodger the Packers never would have smelt the play offs all these year, how ungrateful most of you so called spoiled fans are !

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majik7's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:54 pm

A 9-8 record would have gotten us in this year!

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:03 pm

Would depend on who they lost those 8 games to...

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:57 pm

Without Rodgers this is a wholly different team. Who knows who might have been part of it.

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:04 pm

Absolutely.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:34 pm

Thank you well said

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:01 pm

"If it were not for Rodger the Packers never would have smelt the play offs all these year,..."

I could go for a good smelt fry...

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ImFubared's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:11 pm

a shitty division helped him a lot, bears, lions, vikes. there are four or five first, second year QB's who could have done as much. he ain't the only one on the planet that can throw a football.
His problem is he doesn't care about winning as much as putting up great numbers for his biopic. thus, he only threw to Adams because Adams could get open. Lazard, mvs, Cobb, st bonehead and most te' nds always had someone draped on them which meant possible pick, I'll throw it away.

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coolhand's picture

January 27, 2022 at 11:13 am

I guess you didn't see all of the open receivers Rodgers DIDN'T throw to on Saturday night.

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Packers0808's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:53 pm

Just me or not, but I thought Rodgers looked very old in the game and especially afterwards! Time to move on, Trade him if chooses not retire. His Time In Green Bay has passed him by!

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Packers0808's picture

January 26, 2022 at 02:54 pm

Delete.

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ImFubared's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:16 pm

the Niners doubled Adams and played tight man coverage which drives Rodgers nuts. he loves to pick a zone apart with an open receiver and that didn't happen after the first drive. the Niners all but said they kept changing the coverage to confuse Rodgers and it worked perfect. There coach new Rodgers would not try to pass to guys covered or he would get intercepted and ruin his numbers.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:01 pm

I think this plan has been in motion since Gutekunst arrived, and The Plan (he has a 5 year contract) was to win with Rodgers AND transition to the post-Rodgers future. That's why Rodgers was extended, that's why Love was drafted.

That's why our line has been developed, because either QB benefits from good protection. You cannot win if you cannot protect your QB. And that's why we've got studs piled on top of each other in the backfield, because either QB benefits from a strong run game. And that's why our defense has been steadily improved over the last seasons, because that benefits the QB as well.

As I look at the LaFleur Offense, the #1 priority is to not turn the ball over. Every possession counts and you only get about 11 each game and you can't just give a bunch of them away. Similarly, you have to keep yourself on the field so that the defense isn't out there too much. It's symbiosis, one hand washing the other.

Beyond that, any QB who can execute the offense and get the ball to the skill position guys without turning it over is going to be successful.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:01 pm

I think this plan has been in motion since Gutekunst arrived, and The Plan (he has a 5 year contract) was to win with Rodgers AND transition to the post-Rodgers future. That's why Rodgers was extended, that's why Love was drafted.

That's why our line has been developed, because either QB benefits from good protection. You cannot win if you cannot protect your QB. And that's why we've got studs piled on top of each other in the backfield, because either QB benefits from a strong run game. And that's why our defense has been steadily improved over the last seasons, because that benefits the QB as well.

As I look at the LaFleur Offense, the #1 priority is to not turn the ball over. Every possession counts and you only get about 11 each game and you can't just give a bunch of them away. Similarly, you have to keep yourself on the field so that the defense isn't out there too much. It's symbiosis, one hand washing the other.

Beyond that, any QB who can execute the offense and get the ball to the skill position guys without turning it over is going to be successful.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:16 pm

Very good observations LH.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

January 26, 2022 at 04:42 pm

Ummm, any QB "who an execute the offense" is big ask. We've seen over and over again that there are multitudes of QBs that get drafted that don't have what it takes to execute an offense. Can they read a defense. Can they throw downfield to keep the defense honest? Can they make difficult throws in tight coverage? Can they improvise when a play breaks down, because that's part of the game, too. Finding a QB to execute the offense isn't an easy thing in the NFL. Even with this offense.

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albert999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:05 pm

What part of that playoff game offense protected the QB…the o line was hideous and lafleur started the wrong guys on that line

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Since&#039;61's picture

January 27, 2022 at 12:04 pm

LH you also repeatedly told us throughout the season that STs didn’t matter and we saw how well that worked out! Thanks, Since ‘61

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:05 pm

Aaron Rodgers wins PFWA's MVP for the 2021 season. I voted Retirement so he could beat Brady to the Hall of Fame. But I really hope he comes back and gets another.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:14 pm

I’m in the huge minority concerning this issue—keep him!
I’ve made it clear many times, I’m an ARod apologist and want to keep him for a couple more years—retire as a Packer.
It is very difficult however to argue with those of you whom suggest a trade is the best course of action.
I say keep him—but imo he’s gone.

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Malland56's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:16 pm

Too bad we can't trade him to Seattle for Wilson plus some extras. Wilsons new contract is big too. But he is 33 and ALL team not just certain players

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dobber's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:37 pm

Wilson's contract would do nothing but exacerbate the Packers' cap issues.

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Malland56's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:18 pm

My feeling is that AR will still be a Packer but I sure would like him to take a paycut or make it a longer one for less money per year so that we can keep more of our big name players.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:41 pm

I'm not shocked that the vast majority here want to see Rodgers traded. Most of us are old enough to remember the end of Farve so I think we just have a lot less fear of turning the page. Love may not be the answer, but I agree that Rodgers has shown that he is no longer the answer. Not here. Sometimes a guy has to move on to adapt. Sometimes a guy moves on and still fails to take the hint and adapt. I mean really, were any of us shocked when Farve's run to the Super Bowl with the Vikings ended on an interception? Will any of us be shocked if Rodgers next run at the Super Bowl ends the same way that this one did?

Unless I misunderstand what a voidable year is, this is the Packers' last chance to get something in trade.

If Rodgers does stay, and he wants Love traded to soothe his ego, then that should be a big "No." A GM that does not have a succession plan for a QB over the age of 36 is committing malpractice. Is Love the next Rodgers? Probably not. Could he be the next Garrapolo? Damn straight skippy. And, oh yeah, by the way, last weekend, Jimmy G was good enough to send Rodgers home. So there is that.

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Coldworld's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:51 pm

You are correct, as reworked, Rodgers cannot be tagged or traded after this season because his contract voids. He’s effectively a free agent after the last game of next season (as Kevin King is now).

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Tundraboy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:34 pm

And Rodgers has the balls to mention retirement and this

time he won't wait too long out of respect for Adams,etc? Wow. After this latest debacle. What a guy. Trade him and save money on Adams too. Keep the D intact, its priority one .

And I like Leatherheads take and plan.

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albert999's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:08 pm

Jimmy g didn’t send Rodgers home
Rodgers and special teams sent Rodgers home

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:54 pm

It's time to lovingly set Aaron free in happy AFC-Land where he can perform for a new adoring fan base. We've seen how The Aaron Rodgers Show ends in the post-season; everything from exhilarating to traumatic to disappointing. It's delusional to expect a different ending next season with 12 at the helm in Green Bay. Make the trade if possible.

I do think he is seriously considering retirement. He looked done in the 4th quarter against the 49ers. If he wins the MVP he could pull a Jim Brown and just hang 'em up. Whatever happens, he'll be in control.

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Lphill's picture

January 26, 2022 at 03:57 pm

Lefluer is a boy amongst men when it comes to coaching , If special teams does their job the Packers win a defensive battle 13 to 3, but hey its all Rodgers fault.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 26, 2022 at 05:15 pm

I'm confused. You're the ultimate "participation trophy" whiner on this site, yet that's all Rodger's has delivered for the past 11 years. The offense score 10 points AT HOME, with a HOF QB, against an inferior opponent.

As far as MLF being a "man amongst boys", I'm sure he doesn't give a rat's azz what some whiny retired rent-a-cop from NY thinks.

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Lphill's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:18 pm

13timesachump you're the POS loser who is happy just with an above 500 season , you are the participation trophy king , otherwise you would have to change your name to 14timesachump .what a sorry irrelevant life you live.

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:09 pm

Did you lose a job to a superior minority worker again?

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Todd's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:11 pm

No, it is not all Rodgers’ fault. However, he underwhelmed in the playoffs again. He’s made a habit of shrinking in January. Against the 49ers he looked apathetic at times, locked onto Adams too much (again), and didn’t seem able to react to what the defense was doing. Which seems rather hard to believe since he’s supposedly incredibly smart and is the favorite to be the league MVP again. Considering his reputation and body of work, a lot more is expected than he provided in the last two playoff games he’s been in.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:28 pm

Sharlene says: "It was cold. It's perfectly normal sized in California. Trust me, I know his shoes better than anyone."

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Tundraboy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:38 pm

Exactly. Case closed.

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OldSchool69's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:16 pm

Totally agree. No one wants to admit or discuss the underlying reason why the Packers are done for the season. What a F'n disaster ST are, but drink the cool-aid pile on Rogers. He did not have a MVP game, but he didn't cough up 10pts. He got his ass handed to him all day. BTW...what head coach wouldn't blow a gasket if his ST unit only fielded 10 players for a game deciding kick...M'F'n LF.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2022 at 08:21 am

I’m quite happy to question MLF’s culpability and my questions about his ability as a coach and have done so multiple times. I am not the only one who has registered doubts here. The difference is that I don’t think that excuses Rodgers and I don’t think it renders the coming cap crunch irrelevant in discussing the question of Rodgers ability to lift this team with a weaker roster. That in turn has implications for the future health of the franchise.

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Wedge11's picture

January 26, 2022 at 04:28 pm

This is a the easiest question packer brass should face all year.

Trade his unvaccinated ass and get something for him while you can.

He’s not winning another Super Bowl in GB- probably not ever anywhere else either. He’s a regular season star and playoff dud.

I’ll take the 3-4 high draft picks NOW before it’s too late.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 26, 2022 at 05:33 pm

All right, Wedge. Go for the power regulator on the north tower.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:42 pm

Or Draft Pick.

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BigZ's picture

January 26, 2022 at 04:29 pm

I just want to ask people, who voted to keep AR, how in the HELL do you keep together enough talent to even get THIS far next year, and any more after that with Rodgers under center?

Do people not get that the Packers are $40ish million over the cap, WITH the projected cap increase? As it stands, If I remember correctly, they have $250 million in liabilities for 2022. That $250 mil figure, by the way, is without resigning Adams, or Campbell or MVS or Tonyan? How do you expect the Packers to keep Rodgers AND enough players to be competitive?

Like I believe one of the other posters said in a different thread... do you keep pushing cap hits out and continuing to be at a financial disadvantage while other teams' caps rise while ours is stuck paying aaallll that backloaded money?

OR

You can rip off the band aid now and at least see what Love's got?

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barutanseijin's picture

January 26, 2022 at 05:53 pm

He should retire. He doesn't have it anymore, or at least not enough to get to the Super Bowl. And even if he got there, i don't see him going up against Mahomes or Burrow or any of the other young AFC QBs and coming out on top. So why would an AFC team want him?

Is he honest enough with himself to admit that & hang it up? I kind of doubt it. The next question is whether NFL GMs have figured him out. I think Gutekunst has. There may be a team out there that needs to bring in fans or that doesn't have a viable QB already. The Giants, Detroit, Philly, Houston, & Pittsburgh come to mind. If he goes to Denver, he'd be losing to Mahomes twice a year and maybe splitting with Herbert. How much does Denver want to pay for that? How much does Rodgers want to play for a cellar dweller like the Giants or the Texans?

I'm expecting a deal like they got from the Jets in the Favre deal, i.e., nothing much.

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PeteK's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:18 pm

Denver might have been 7-10, but a closer look shows a team that was very close in 5 games with money to spend. A perfect fit for Rod and for us a #9 pick.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:40 pm

I'd take that #9 pick in the 2022 draft and a young ascending player plus a 2nd round 2023 pick in a heartbeat.

These fans that think we're going to get a boatload of draft picks for a player turning 39 next year that has a less than impressive post season resume are just delusional.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:31 pm

Shut the front door. The Packers get squat if he retires. Maybe some cap relief for the unearned portion of his signing bonus plus his salary, but no draft picks. Besides, Peyton was in way worse shape when he went to Denver, and look how that turned out.

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GregC's picture

January 26, 2022 at 05:59 pm

I voted to trade him, even though I don't think he's been much to blame for the playoff losses. I'm just sick of the guy and his ego, and I want to have a QB who I can stick up for. Also, I think it is too hard to sustain a quality team for very long with one of the highest paid QBs in the league.

The Packers had a good team this year, but not a great one. Lots of people seemed to think that the stars were aligned for them to win it all this year, but they had some serious deficiencies, especially the fact that they were without their two best offensive linemen, who are two of the best players in the league at their positions. They were able to mask their OL deficiency in the regular season, but against a quality opponent that was playing intense playoff football, they were badly exposed. (The same thing happened last year against Tampa Bay, though in less dramatic fashion.) And this year, they had the worst special teams in the league, by a long shot. The 2021 Packers were not a complete team.

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Gman1976's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:00 pm

I am in the minority here. I'd love to keep Aaron here until he retires. His stats speak for themselves. You can argue all you want about what kind of person he is even though you really don't know him, but he is one of the greatest quarterbacks in history. He's gutted out injuries, playing with bad defenses, with questionable coaching, and now with horrible special teams. Yes, he has his flaws (who doesn't?), but we may never have another nearly as great.

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:12 pm

We probably won't have another QB nearly as great. But check this out:
I don't care about that.

I care about winning for the next decade.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:57 pm

Come on when we finally trade Rodgers, we will seeing a few years of sub-500. I'm good with that, cause Gute at least will explore all options to make the the better. Question for you and everyone really how do you rank the NFC north Qbs the next 2 years. Here's mine 1. Cousins (i just threw up a little) if not traded don't see it cause the cap hit, is crazy 46 million I think. 2. Goff 3, Fields and 4 Love. Its not a shot at Love at all, we don't know what we have with him yet. Still I'm looking forward to find out what Love has, when the playbook, is for him.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:10 pm

Trade him. Next year immediately becomes more interesting then the Groundhog Days we’ve been experiencing.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:42 pm

Oh please yes make it stop. Having Needlenose Ned flashbacks too.

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grbroome's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:16 pm

He's no longer 100% focused on running the offense. Why? " He's a complicated [email protected]" but his run has been longer than Curly 's, Bart's and Brett's. But he has become to fatiguing on the fanbase.

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grbroome's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:16 pm

He's no longer 100% focused on running the offense. Why? " He's a complicated [email protected]" but his run has been longer than Curly 's, Bart's and Brett's. But he has become to fatiguing on the fanbase.

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White92's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:43 pm

I don't want to see him go, but after that last game I'm starting to think that it's just time for a change. Maybe if he played for vet minimum (which he never would) they could keep him. Otherwise, get a king's ransom for him while you can. Just don't waste the draft picks on punters and long snappers. 😜

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ImFubared's picture

January 26, 2022 at 06:47 pm

Look, Rodgers didn't have to meet with team on Monday unless he has made one decision: he insists they give Adams the money he deserves or, he will probably retire.
He trust Adams so much, he can't see himself working with others. So the idea of a trade is probably not high on his list.
No I see the Adams situation as the defining issue, no Adams no Rodgers.
Where they get the money is the mystery.

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 27, 2022 at 11:29 pm

The solution to that problem is easy... Tag and Trade DA with AR to Denver and they can reunite with Hackett...

1. Denver needs a QB (Hackett loves Rodgers)
2. Rodgers loves DA...
3. Block buster trade for Denver sells luxury boxes and tickets and lets them compete in the AFC West.

Blockbuster deal gives Gutey something to hang his hat on, especially if it works. Jordan Love can lose to Jimmy G 13 - 10 just as easy as Rodgers can. Who knows, maybe Love actually hits Lazard running wide open instead of forcing it to DA? IDK... I do know if we don't trade Rodgers this year, we're unlikely to get anything for him. His value to this team going forward is the draft capital we can obtain from a decent trade...

Get Broncos, Colts, and Dolphins into a bidding war for his services and let the chips fall where they may.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 05:02 pm

I'm on board I just don't about Indy, I'm sure they are a player. I don't know the will be part of bidding war, cause they just lost a first this year for a mistake called Weniz.

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MEO73's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:03 pm

Keep. He may bow out though. If Brady really goes, he wont want to retire this year.

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Lphill's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:22 pm

Another successful winning season for 13timesachump , remember back in school when you couldn't make the team or sit with the cool kids? Well you're that same person except now having a keyboard makes you feel relevant.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:49 pm

And yet you want to keep the QB who keeps providing those "winning seasons" that end up without a Lombardi, yet ridicule others for being satisfied with participation trophies.

Are you going to pay Rodgers to send you a paid recorded Happy Birthday message like you did with Favre? How much did you pay for that, btw?

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Lphill's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:09 pm

The same you paid for a conjugal visit with Jordan Love.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:31 pm

Please keep confirming to everyone on this site what a pathetic racist you are.

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LynnDickey12's picture

January 26, 2022 at 07:52 pm

Since he got Mike canned, he has asked everyone for everything. He got it. More money, reduced duration of contract, New HC, his friend Getsy back at QB coach, defensive support, a running game, good/great offensive line play, his friend at WR, asked for Bakh to play when he probably shouldn't have, the list goes on. After getting it all, PLUS all those guys coming back from IR in 2021, AND a team that was nearly injury free in 2020 (Bakh is an exception, of course...but the only one)...he still couldn't make the plays that were there to be made in the playoffs either this year or last year.

Sure, if the Packers goal was simply to get to the playoffs....I'd say we do whatever can be done to keep him. But, that's not the yardstick, judging by the deep discounts on division champion t-shirts (https://www.packersproshop.com/green-bay-packers-sale/20-ss-div-champs-t...).

Trade him, get the picks, and build a new foundation. There are different routes to the Super Bowl. Just ask Jimmy G, Jared Goff, or Joe Flacco!

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Oppy's picture

January 26, 2022 at 08:14 pm

Yes, yes, and more yes.

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joejetson's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:02 pm

NFL football is a business, a Big Business. Rodgers is a commodity, an asset. His value will only decrease from here on out, due to his age especially. But he will probably win another MVP, so his value is still high. Find a desperate GM, or an.egotistical owner, and wring out every future asset (draft picks, young talent) possible. Gutekunst.has shown a.good eye for drafting talent, even in their late slot in the.draft order. I'd like to see him with two or three first round picks to play with for two or three years in a row.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:48 pm

Wow, I'm surprised in that vote.

My bet is that he says.

They can cut:
Z (-15.3M cap)
Lowry (-4M cap)
Turner (-4.1M cap)
Cobb (-6.9M cap)

renegotiate:
Bahk (-6.6M Cap by changing Roster Bonus into Signing Bonus)
Clark (-6.6M Cap by changing Roster Bonus into Signing Bonus)

Extend:
Rodgers(-35M Cap 3/100M w/40M signing Bonus) the only way this works is if Rodgers does a Brady deal.
Amos (-7M Cap on a 3/30M w/10M signing Bonus)

Resign:
Jaire (-6.2M Cap 4/80M w20M signing bonus)
Adams (+10M Cap 3/75M with 25M signing bonus)
Tonyan (+6M Cap 2/16M with 8M signing bonus)
Campbell (+7M Cap 3/18M with 6M signing bonus)
Douglas (+2.5M Cap 2/8M with 3M signing bonus) taking his word that he just want's "a little more money"
Lazard (+4M Cap 2nd round tender: $3,986,000)
Nijman (+4M Cap 2nd round tender: $3,986,000)
Bojorquez (+1.5M 1/1.5M)

If they did that they would be about 6 million under that cap which might be close enough for rookies and bottom of the roster guys. They could cut Crosby for another 2.5 million and maybe try to get Cobb to renegotiate. IDK, I'm just a guy with an internet connection, a calculator and a very laymans understanding of the cap. It's possible I am missing something or Rodgers wants to get paid Mahomes money and then it's impossible.

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:27 pm

I'll bet they don't cut Crosby. Never going to happen.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:41 pm

I didn't put a cut of Crosby in there. He's Rodgers travel partner. I can;t see them cutting Cobb and Crosby and Rodgers staying. If Rodgers goes they should cut Crosby IMO.

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:53 pm

They've always tried to honor Contracts. Don't forget they made him kick with a new holder. And He will end up in the packer hall of Fame.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 26, 2022 at 10:19 pm

He will indeed.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 26, 2022 at 09:52 pm

I like it, jj, just a guy with an internet connection, a calculator and a layman's understanding of the Cap. Kind of like all I've got is this red guitar, three chords and the truth. Make it your tagline.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2022 at 08:47 am

That doesn’t free us enough to get through to the minimum needed to operate. It doesn’t cover Alexander, and just dumps a ton of money into the next couple of years. It doesn’t address the other losses you require from cuts being replaced. We would be a team with a weaker receiver corps, weaker rush, cap strapped and a roster full of rookies and street Free agents.

With a few more cuts it can be done, but this result is likely to be weaker and less deep and with a QB positioned to hold us to ransom if he threatens retirement, since it would accelerate cap.

If you think that Rodgers plus a weaker roster I’d a plausible route to winning it all, then a more severe version of this is the only way, but the mess at the end will likely be worse. Personally I think that’s a recipe for nothing much. It’s taking us back 4 years and we weren’t competitive then. I’d rather face up to that now and start trying to move forward using the cap and any picks or players we can get. If it costs a division championship, so be it.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 27, 2022 at 09:18 am

"t doesn’t cover Alexander"

Obviously you didn't read it! LOL Extending Alexander saves money over the 5th year option. Why do you reply to my comment with nonsense? I assume you down voted it too. What does that say about you?

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PAPackerbacker's picture

January 27, 2022 at 04:02 am

Do what is best for the Packers, not what is best for Rodgers. He already stated he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild. That statement pretty much shows where his priorities lie. Make the best possible deal you can, trade him and move forward. The time is now, while there is still value for the Packers. Prepare for the future, embrace and learn from the past. Go! Pack! Go!

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Turophile's picture

January 27, 2022 at 05:54 am

So many emotional responses here, so few that are about the best way forward for the Packers.

I'm for trading Rodgers.....................BUT, not for any emotional reason, simply because I think in terms of overall team strength for the next several years, the team is in better shape with Rodgers contract gone in a year when many very, very painful cap decisions must be made..............and the extra picks from his trade help the Packers move forward.

If the $ supported his (Rodgers) retention more, I'd be happy to see him kept, moving on is a money decision only.

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coolhand's picture

January 27, 2022 at 11:32 am

I wouldn't say moving on is a money decision only. But by keeping Rodgers and Adams, the players we will have to let go will diminish the team more than keeping 12 and 17 will improve it in my view now and in the future.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 05:13 pm

While I agree that signing Rodgers and Adams, will hurt the team way worse then trading Rodgers.

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Gee's picture

January 28, 2022 at 05:15 pm

Yep some comments in here, you can almost feel the rage!!

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DougXX57's picture

January 27, 2022 at 06:32 am

If Rodgers and the Packers decide to move on, sign Adams and trade him with Rodgers as we have all seen the rumors of Denver stepping in to get him. He has been a great QB for the Packers but time is moving and how long will he play? Keep the Defense together and draft a WR and fix the OL and maybe find a vet QB because I am not sold on Love as of yet. I feel we have a great structured base in the front office and they will sit with Rodgers and see how that goes and then talk with Ball(I bet they already have) to see if they can make it work. Otherwise if Rodgers has to move on, enjoyed the time here and good luck in Denver :-)

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 27, 2022 at 06:53 am

Guy just won his second straight MVP. His trade value will never be higher. Let’s set up the team for the next decade.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2022 at 08:51 am

Sounds like our OC might well go to Denver. Hackett could end up with Rodgers and Adams if so.

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 28, 2022 at 07:13 am

That might be the best scenario for both the Packers and Broncos. Hackett, Rogers, & Adams all three happy, coaching and playing at a high level for a year or three.

Packers lose three great people, but gain millions in cap space and whatever capital from the trade. My biggest hope in all this is that Gutey has the gumption to Tag & Trade Adams to Denver and doesn't just let him walk out the door. (It may be a dick move, but it is what is best for the Packers.)

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daletrudell1's picture

January 27, 2022 at 08:32 am

To me, it is interesting how Rogers bad play in key games each of the past two years has switched the bargaining power from Rogers back to GB. I am assuming the Packers want to keep Rogers without sacrificing the franchise's long term health.

To continue to win in GB, Rogers knows he will have to take a huge pay cut. I think he also knows the best place to win is GB - not to mention his desire when entering the NFL was to play and retire for one team - legacy is important to him. From a long term marketing perspective, Rogers should consider a 3 year deal. The key to the deal is his salary in year one would be $1 with escalations of $20M in year 2 and $30M+ in year 3. Remember, the cap is still limited this coming year but is projected to grow substantially in 22-23.

In marketing, the entity who is the first, usually wins. So Rogers would be the first MVP caliber player to accept a contract with zero earnings. The publicity his brand would get for being the first high caliber player to play for nothing could be huge. His motive for this is his love for GB, the players, fans, coaching staff and his desire to win another championship in GB. He would be an NFL icon forever with an unlimited number of advertisement opportunities in the future - he would recover this one year's loss of salary in one year.

I believe Aaron knows the Packer brass knows that Jordon Love is not the answer. This is what makes the Rogers situation much different than the Favre one - everyone knew Rogers was ready and the right guy to replace Favre. Plus, Rogers is a much better player at this point than Favre was. Trade Love and keep looking for the right QB replacement for the future.

As far as Roger's "happy feet" in the pocket and his dependence on only one receiver, #17, in the playoffs, this is a coaching issue. MLF and staff need to coach him up when this pattern emerges - tell him he is reverting to back to bad habits and to adjust his style of play accordingly - trust the offense - believe it or not MLF, he is coachable.

Guys like Rodgers do not come around often. The Packer brass has done a great job building around Rogers and healing any hurt feelings - if there ever were any. If Rogers is willing to take a pay cut to open cap space and the coaching staff steps up in play off style games, this franchise could flourish for several more years.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 27, 2022 at 10:12 am

"The key to the deal is his salary in year one would be $1 with escalations of $20M in year 2 and $30M+ in year 3. "

There's no way in hell that the NFLPA would allow that to happen. But it's a moot point, because Rodgers would never in a million years agree to it.

Nice pipe dream though.

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 28, 2022 at 07:16 am

You're right...

League minimum is a thing...

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daletrudell1's picture

January 27, 2022 at 08:32 am

To me, it is interesting how Rogers bad play in key games each of the past two years has switched the bargaining power from Rogers back to GB. I am assuming the Packers want to keep Rogers without sacrificing the franchise's long term health.

To continue to win in GB, Rogers knows he will have to take a huge pay cut. I think he also knows the best place to win is GB - not to mention his desire when entering the NFL was to play and retire for one team - legacy is important to him. From a long term marketing perspective, Rogers should consider a 3 year deal. The key to the deal is his salary in year one would be $1 with escalations of $20M in year 2 and $30M+ in year 3. Remember, the cap is still limited this coming year but is projected to grow substantially in 22-23.

In marketing, the entity who is the first, usually wins. So Rogers would be the first MVP caliber player to accept a contract with zero earnings. The publicity his brand would get for being the first high caliber player to play for nothing could be huge. His motive for this is his love for GB, the players, fans, coaching staff and his desire to win another championship in GB. He would be an NFL icon forever with an unlimited number of advertisement opportunities in the future - he would recover this one year's loss of salary in one year.

I believe Aaron knows the Packer brass knows that Jordon Love is not the answer. This is what makes the Rogers situation much different than the Favre one - everyone knew Rogers was ready and the right guy to replace Favre. Plus, Rogers is a much better player at this point than Favre was. Trade Love and keep looking for the right QB replacement for the future.

As far as Roger's "happy feet" in the pocket and his dependence on only one receiver, #17, in the playoffs, this is a coaching issue. MLF and staff need to coach him up when this pattern emerges - tell him he is reverting to back to bad habits and to adjust his style of play accordingly - trust the offense - believe it or not MLF, he is coachable.

Guys like Rodgers do not come around often. The Packer brass has done a great job building around Rogers and healing any hurt feelings - if there ever were any. If Rogers is willing to take a pay cut to open cap space and the coaching staff steps up in play off style games, this franchise could flourish for several more years.

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Since&#039;61's picture

January 27, 2022 at 12:01 pm

Trade him while we can still get a return. Should have been done prior to this season because now he might retire and we’ll get nothing in return.

Rodgers time has come. It was obvious in the second half on Saturday. Time to accept it and move on.

But this management team’s strategic decisions really concern me. Regardless of Rodgers why isn’t Drayton gone yet? If they keep Drayton what does that tell us and the team? These guys created this mess I’m seriously concerned that they can get us out of it successfully especially if they decide to retain Drayton. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Oppy's picture

January 27, 2022 at 06:27 pm

There is zero chance Drayton retains his job.

The Packers will probably conduct exit interviews and let him walk.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 28, 2022 at 02:50 pm

As i advocated last year clean haus and bring in Andrew Brandt to run the show. The sledding hill is not the money-maker. 1265 Lombari Ave. is in a reactor mode of operation--not proactive and set in dinosaur methods dating to the reign of Wolf.

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Rudedawg67's picture

January 27, 2022 at 02:50 pm

No no no don’t trade Rodgers. Let’s let him get us to the playoffs again and then bench him and start the savior Jordan Love. He is the next Nick Foles for sure.

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Rudedawg67's picture

January 27, 2022 at 02:50 pm

No no no don’t trade Rodgers. Let’s let him get us to the playoffs again and then bench him and start the savior Jordan Love. He is the next Nick Foles for sure.

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Pikeman's picture

January 27, 2022 at 03:16 pm

Why would you trade him until you have a quarterback that is capable of replacing him. I dont think Love is that quarterback

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Oppy's picture

January 27, 2022 at 06:30 pm

Man, I can't believe how many people don't understand the cap situation this team is in.

You keep Rodgers in 2022, you have to shitcan young, talented players that should be Packers for the next 5-10 years.

Also, the longer you wait to start playing a different QB, the longer it is before the Packers know if they have the QB of the future or not.

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greengold's picture

January 28, 2022 at 07:31 am

TRADE HIM ASAP.

11 straight years of choking. Can’t keep making the same mistakes expecting different results. Rodgers is a phenomenal thrower of the football, SOMETIMES, and nothing more. We’ve seen all the throws, ranging from otherworldly to really bad. We’ve seen and analyzed all the freak outs that have lead us to this very place of not even having a chance to advance for the chance…

Rodgers has lead GB to only 1 win in a NFCC game, 12 years ago… not another since. Take away his 2 seasons of broken collar bones (IMO also the result of his own uncontrollable pass happy tendencies), and he is 0-9 in opportunities to lead our team to the Super Bowl, oftentimes with talent rich teams.

We’re supposed to continue mortgaging the future of the Green Bay Packers for THAT?

Enough of the BS. Trade him for what you can get and move on.

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Packerlifer's picture

January 28, 2022 at 04:56 pm

Denver currently has 11 picks in this year's draft, which includes #9 overall in the first round. They have a total of 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.

The Packers don't pick till 28th in the first round and have only one each in round 2 & 3.

If the Broncos are motivated enough for Rodgers I'd say take those 5 prime picks, including 9th overall. That will give Green Bay 2 first rounders and a total of 8 picks in the first 95.

All together that will have the Packers with the 9th, 28th, 4oth, 60th, 63rd, 75th, 92nd and 95th selections in the first 3 rounds.

Teddy Bridgewater is due to be a UFA. If Rodgers goes to Denver the Broncos won't have any interest in re-signing him. Maybe the Packers could consider him. He is an experienced NFL qb with some accomplishment. He could play enough to get the Packers enough wins to make it in their division but wouldn't require scrapping the Jordan Love project. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BridTe00.htm

That assumes the Packers will use their cap savings to invest in keeping the current team more together next season while coming up with a "haul" in this year's draft.

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