Jordan Love Has Ticked Every Box This Summer
Green Bay's new QB1 is ready to succeed in the NFL.
By markoldacres
One week today, Jordan Love will take the field as the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, leading the team into a new era.
Outside of one spot start in place of a COVID-stricken Aaron Rodgers in 2021, this will be Love’s first start in a game that matters.
Until the real football begins, there are still plenty of unknowns about how Love and the Packers offense will fare in 2023, but in training camp and pre-season action, Green Bay’s new QB1 has ticked every box.
Across limited snaps in three pre-season games, Love went 21 for 33 as a passer for a 63.6% completion rate, racking up 183 yards and three touchdowns, with no interceptions, for a passer rating of 109.8. He also had 33 yards on four rushes.
He threw for a touchdown in all three outings, looking comfortable and in control in each game. The poise he showed will no doubt have been helped by an offensive line which kept him clean versus the Bengals, Patriots and Seahawks. Love wasn’t sacked all pre-season.
The most impressive quality Love has shown this summer, which was arguably his biggest area in need of development coming out of Utah State, has been his decision making and overall command of an NFL offense.
He has got to know Matt LaFleur’s system intimately over the last three years as he waited in the wings, and it shows. Love has consistently known where to go with the ball. This has paired with a readiness to take whatever the defense is giving.
When asked about his willingness to throw over the field, something his predecessor Aaron Rodgers was often reticent to do, Love told ESPN’s Rob Demovsky: “It all comes down to coverage and the concept that you have and just reading it out.
“You want to take advantage of what the defense is doing and attack the weak spots they have, whether that’s the middle of the field, the sideline, whatever it might be. I feel confident throwing it anywhere on the field.”
Love has top-tier arm talent and the ability to make any throw, which he showed off at various times this summer. There’s a reason Love was a first-round pick. His ceiling is extremely high.
While he is not a true weapon as a runner like a Justin Fields, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson, Love has shown plenty of mobility which has allowed him to scramble for yards and keep drives alive.
It was encouraging to see some fire from the usually calm and collected Love after being hit late following a scramble, exchanging choice words with a Patriots defender, and then leading his team into the end zone.
The tools have never been in question for Love, but one area that still appears to need development is his accuracy. He has shown growth in this area, but there still are a few too many open receivers being missed.
Love has often started out slow in this regard, whether it be at practice or in pre-season games, before settling in and finding his range.
While there is room for improvement, there is every chance Love’s accuracy improves over the course of the season as he gets more and more reps. It has not been a glaring issue.
Where other young quarterbacks are routinely chewed up and spit out by the impatient NFL, Love was afforded the luxury of learning and developing over multiple years before being installed as the starter.
We won’t know for sure until the bullets are live, but after a summer which can only be described as a success, all indications are that Love is ready to lead an effective offense in 2023.
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Comments (98)
Bearmeat
September 03, 2023 at 06:34 am
Bears fans are terrified of Love, and for good reason. They are finally starting to see that Fields was never a good QB - he was an RB who occasionally threw. Love, even way back in year 2, looked to throw first. He's reading the coverages, making good decisions with the football. As I tell my students (I am a music teacher), "process over product." Love has done that and the product is starting to show. I have every faith that the accuracy will be hit and miss to start the year, but by the end of the year, we are going to have a franchise QB on our hands. And even then, the ceiling won't be known!
Life is good as a Packer fan, for the first time since January 2021.
HawkPacker
September 03, 2023 at 09:09 am
I have to say Bearmeat that I have plenty of Bears fans and I have not heard much about Love but have heard them say that they are glad that Rodgers is gone.
This will be a fun season to see Love develop and can't wait for that first game vs the Bears.
Bearmeat
September 03, 2023 at 11:51 am
I lived in Chicago for 7 years and have plenty of lifelong friends who are Bears fans. They won't admit it, but they are scared that Love will be their new daddy.
HawkPacker
September 03, 2023 at 04:11 pm
Now I understand Bearmeat. Makes sense.
Oppy
September 03, 2023 at 08:39 pm
Yup.
They are taking the opportunity before the season starts to air as much bluster and bravado as possible- they're going to finally step on the Packers because Rodgers is no longer in town.
They're all secretly terrified of the season opener. As I've said previously, if Love looks decent- just decent- they will be uncomfortable, regardless of the outcome of the game. If Love looks good? They will be in full lament.
If Love comes out and puts on a show vs. the Bears, that fan base is going to be ready to jump off tall buildings.
...And I'm here for it.
TarynsEyes
September 03, 2023 at 10:33 am
Any angst or fear the Bears fans are feeling is about Fields' coming, make-or-break season, and not in any shape or form of Love. Nobody is more terrified of Love than the Packers fans are of his (Love) possible failings.
You being a teacher should know that a passing grade doesn't mean you can play in the band. Ticking the boxes doesn't make the notes sound right. The player needs to nail his solo, and Love hasn't had his yet, and neither has many of the other band members. Let them play awhile before you put him and others in the starring act spot.
Bearmeat
September 03, 2023 at 11:51 am
You are right, but as a teacher, I will say that without ticking the boxes of how to practice you will never have any chance to be good. You have to have inborn talent, but proper skill acquisition is far more important.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 03, 2023 at 11:56 am
"90% of talent is hard work."
Bearmeat
September 03, 2023 at 02:34 pm
hand AND smart And efficient work, yes.
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 02:41 pm
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi.
TarynsEyes
September 03, 2023 at 01:28 pm
Yes, practice boxes need to be checked, but many are talking practice as though his name should be Midas.
Packers0808
September 03, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Don't know what you do if anything for a living but it sure isn't as being some to look up too with your attitude and gray cloud hovering over head!
TarynsEyes
September 03, 2023 at 01:20 pm
I have enough people in my life that look upon me as smart and a good example, and to that I attribute the ability to know who or what not to follow, also known as blind bandwagon jumping, blind optimism. Two things that too many correlate to needing to be a Packer fan. Perhaps I'll be fully aboard late, but when I am, I'll at least know surer the direction, and destination.
Oppy
September 03, 2023 at 08:43 pm
Nah. Bears fans are terrified of Love.
They've been subjugated by 30 years straight of dominant Packers QB play. They desperately want to believe that the jettison of Rodgers is their sliver of light peeking out from that dark storm cloud.
If there's any indication Love has real NFL arm talent that could develop into a consistent winner much less something special, that fragile hope is going to be shattered.
I think you underestimate what the yoke of Packers dominance has done to that fan base.
LLCHESTY
September 03, 2023 at 11:06 am
"Bears fans are terrified of Love, and for good reason."
I have quite a few friends that are Bears fans and I don't get feeling from them at all. They might be in for a rude awakening a week from now but for now they're just ecstatic Rodgers is gone.
Coldworld
September 03, 2023 at 06:21 pm
Mostly the Bears fans I know are fretting over whether Fields is a QB and how bad their OL is. However, the idea that Love may not be a dreadful is one they don’t want to even contemplate.
WD
September 03, 2023 at 03:26 pm
We have a lot of Bear fans down here in the Racine-Keno area. I have a number of friends that are Bear fans. I don't sense any fear at all from them about Love or the rest of the Pack. If anything they are licking their chops for revenge against the Rodgers-less Packers. One thing they are right about is the Bears will be a much improved team this year and they all believe the Bears have a good chance to win the division. Not me,them. This will not be an easy game for the Packers in Chicago. Pack had better strap on those jock straps securely. They will be going into battle. Packers need to give em hell.
fireball
September 03, 2023 at 07:08 am
Love has been good so far. Steady. Calm. Seemly in charge of the offense.
Nothing outstanding.
But then, for real, it all begins next weekend. Then, week after week, game after game, we begin to find out just how good Love really is.
Coldworld
September 03, 2023 at 07:41 am
The big unknown questions about Love were could he process in field and did he have the temperament required to handle playing in the NFL. So far, he’s shown both. The season will be another level of challenge: better players, true NFL defensive schemes and schemed against. However, what he could show in preseason has been. That’s encouraging. Now it’s a question of gaining experience, which is what will be needed to make those qualities fully effective.
LLCHESTY
September 03, 2023 at 12:55 pm
As far as his temperament I hope they give him easy completions he 1st couple of drives. Judging by the preseason it seems like he takes awhile to settle down. I don't think you can win(much) playing conservative in today's NFL but I'm fine with them going conservative to start the games. The last thing they need is a turnover and then him putting too much pressure on himself to make up for it. That's how avalanches happen.
Coldworld
September 04, 2023 at 07:15 am
That’s a pretty good plan with most QBs, particularly newer ones. Get your player settled and in some kind of rhythm. McCarthy used to do that with Rodgers a lot early on.
stockholder
September 03, 2023 at 07:44 am
The New era? OK I’ll go buy the cap.
Because being a old guy; I was taught it was a period
Preceding the Great Depression.
But since this is Life after Rodgers.
I don’t think Time has anything to do with it.
Currently it’s a marriage between Love and Gutey.
We’ve been pumped with either one or the Other.
In fact; I must say they’ve convinced me," They buried Rodgers".
Forget the odds to go to the super-Bowl.
Let’s just concentrate on Love!
And Gutey’s great job to improve the roster.
Wow- I convinced the moon is now Lambeau field.
We’re defying gravity. And nothing can stop these two.
Does this make a lot of sense to you?
IMO- It’s about image. And how long it last is the Question.
1. The realization that Love isn’t a True Weapon. Check.
2. How many hits can Love take. Check.
3. Accuracy. Check
4. Time to adjust/settle in. Check
5. Lead. Check
Ok - I got the picture.
Even the "back-ups" to Rodgers came close.
Huddle up. Accountability starts with the Bears.
LLCHESTY
September 03, 2023 at 10:36 am
"Does this make a lot of sense to you?"
Absolutely not, but then you usually don't. But I'm starting to admire your "loose" use of punctuation. You rule breaker you.
stockholder
September 03, 2023 at 12:38 pm
If you could pick that out.
You understand perfectly.
I understood the point.
The counter point is Accountability.
Packers0808
September 03, 2023 at 12:28 pm
One thing shines for sure, Accountability doesn't start with you.
stockholder
September 03, 2023 at 12:39 pm
True; but I'm not the guy who rides a white horse and shoots silver bullets either.
Packers0808
September 03, 2023 at 01:19 pm
But you thought Tonto and Rodgers did.
HawkPacker
September 03, 2023 at 04:14 pm
Hiyo silver away!!!!!
Oppy
September 03, 2023 at 08:46 pm
The ironic thing is, he DIDN'T think Rodgers did for his first many seasons.
He was the exact same way about Rodgers surmounting Favre as he is now about Love taking the reigns from Rodgers.
He literally doesn't learn, he just wraps himself with his fear.
stockholder
September 04, 2023 at 06:32 am
No- it was shutting the windows of others.
But you don't see any danger.
Why spend the money if you're in a Rebuild?
You have a unproven QB.
Shouldn't he prove himself first?
You believe nothing can go wrong.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 12:49 pm
NO; I don't believe nothing can go wrong. In fact, I've stated time and time again that while I believe I have seen enough from Love to feel comfortable with his talent, that "you don't know until you know" and we need to see it on the field. I don't know if you heard or not, but the Packers navigated around the 5th year option and came up with a very prudent temporary contract that allows them to see it on the field before inking anything long term or extremely expensive.
Where you and many of us differ is that we could see that an awful lot was wrong with Rodgers as a Packer. Time to move on and to the future, whether that be Love or if they have to look elsewhere. This TEAM is healthier having let Rodgers go elsewhere.
For what it's worth, I fully expect Love to succeed as starter in this league unless something unforeseen pops up. He's got the tools, he demonstrates the work ethic and leadership. For me, it's only about seeing how he responds to back-against-the-wall situations. That's the big question that can only be answered on sundays. One thing I know for sure, the TEAM is in a better place for the next decade plus without Rodgers', unproven or not.
It's a shame your inability to accept change coupled with your desire to shit on everything Gutekunst is going to prevent you from enjoying the fantastic opportunity to watch a young, talented team come together and develop into a long term winner. It's the journey, not the destination.
stockholder
September 04, 2023 at 01:51 pm
I've stated don't be afraid of change.
But that didn't include QB.
I've been a critic of Gute's drafting.
You don't see Sherman. I DO.
I see what the scouts See.
Many stated Rodgers needed to leave,
for the GOOD of Rodgers.
And Rodgers was Correct to request a Trade.
Regardless were at the cross-roads.
A place where we didn't have to be.
All for the Glory to Gute.
jannesbjornson
September 04, 2023 at 02:14 pm
Like I said, at some point, Love may ask for a trade if Gutey-ball stays in place. He's seen the entire episode unfold.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 04:42 pm
I've never seen two people who are so sure they have the inside track who are so terribly wrong about something that's relatively out in the open.
Gute is not the issue, boys. It's a meddling CEO who spent more time kowtowing to a primadonna QB than supporting his GM to prune the roster and grow for the future.
stockholder
September 04, 2023 at 05:47 pm
Gute is the issue.
Rodgers wanted him canned.
You have a short memory.
It's not how many picks you get.
It's how you use them.
It's not how much money you have.
It's what you do with it.
It's not Murphy.
It's the Franchise that comes first.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 08:48 pm
No shit Rodgers wanted him canned. Seriously, how dense are you?
Gutekunst saw the need to replace an aging QB who had become a cancer, because- get this- the franchise comes first. You're right, it is how you use the money. Gutekunst has made it pretty clear he wasn't on-board with the cap trickery used to hold Rodgers' aging vet buddies around for extra years at the expense of future cap dollars. Gute was trying to rebuild the roster with youth.
Of course Rodgers wanted Gute gone. Gutekunst was a man with the audacity to do his job as GM and do what was in the best interests of the long term interests of the GBP, as opposed to kneeling to their aging, increasingly difficult QB.
I've asked this before, but I really want to know... do you go to sleep each night in a set of Aaron Rodgers underoos?
WestCoastPackerBacker
September 03, 2023 at 02:12 pm
I love your poetry here and if I am translating correctly you are saying Gutey and Love will always be connected. And the game against the Bears is truly the first chance to see if Love “checks the boxes. “
TxFred
September 03, 2023 at 07:57 am
IMO, the players around JL, backs & receivers are going to make him a better QB. GPG!!!!
Guam
September 03, 2023 at 08:11 am
I am optimistic and hopeful that Love will be the next great Packer QB, but I have seen enough highly touted pre-season phenoms flame out that I still want to see Love prove it in the regular season. If he is still displaying at midseason all of the good traits the author talks about, I will be a very happy Packer fan.
TKWorldWide
September 03, 2023 at 10:38 am
How dare you be so patient and reasonable!
😉
SoCalJim
September 03, 2023 at 12:37 pm
I’d be absolutely happy if J Love was only above average, as long as the rest of the team was loaded with talent and the coaching was highly effective. It was a poor strategy for the Packers to have a superstar QB that sucked up most of the salary cap.
Charvid
September 03, 2023 at 08:47 am
Dear Jordan,
There has been a bit of a trend in Green Bay for 30 years or so, perhaps you’ve noticed it. Many of us have. A QB comes in and through talent, grit, enthusiasm, wit and charm, makes all of Packer Nation fall in love with him. After a decade or so of success, he then begins to turn into a real diva…a complete ego maniac. Some of us are forced to turn on the guy we once loved. Please, Jordan, for the love of God, please don’t turn into an asshole after you dominate the NFC. We want to love you forever. Don’t make it hard to do.
Love,
Charvid
Tundraboy
September 03, 2023 at 10:24 pm
Here here! No diva for a change.
greengold
September 03, 2023 at 09:32 am
Jordan Love’s performance this summer has been encouraging, given his level of achievement with such limited reps. Maybe somewhere near the top of our expectations, save for a couple bad decisions here and there.
I’m just looking forward to seeing Matt LaFleur putting JL time & time again, throughout the season, in his best opportunities to succeed. If LaFleur does that, I believe Love will be more than capable of responding in kind.
Start the new era out the right way. Run the ball enough to keep defenses honest, and demand excellence from your players, yourself and your staff, Coach LaFleur. TEAM.
LFG GPG CTFB AGNFB
Packerpasty
September 04, 2023 at 10:23 am
well you have previously stated that the Pack should win the div and be in the playoffs so whats to worry?? Go Pack Go..
Since'61
September 03, 2023 at 09:32 am
I believe and have believed from the beginning that Love in time will evolve into a solid starting QB for the Packers. There are two primary factors that will impact Love's evolution as a starting QB. First, like any player, remaining healthy will determine success in his career. A player must be able to play to develop their capabilities and learn the game. Secondly, it will take time for Love to develop. How long is anyone's guess. I think it will be take 2 seasons or less, hopefully less. Coaching will have a huge impact on his evolution as a QB. Fortunately he has Clements to learn his craft from.
Also, the players around him and how well they play their roles will affect his effectiveness as a QB.
Love has the tools but he can't do it alone and he should not be expected to. Give him time, have patience and let he become his own player. If he is not seriously injured he will get there. Thanks, Since '61
canadapacker
September 03, 2023 at 10:50 am
Totally agree with your assessment "61. But I would like to add - from some of the pre-season - although Love still has work to do on his accuracy - hopefully his receivers will be able to always make the simple catches and run the correct routes ( communication at the line of scrimmage). But my biggest point of optimism has to do with Love's escapability and foot speed. And if he can fire accurate passes off of it or can keep on making those 20 - 30 yard runs - some big plays will result especially with the likes of Watson et al. Gutey has drafted some nice speed at the receiver. Not saying that he will be a Mahommes - but the potential is there. Health is the priority but unlike Chicago- the Oline is sound and we have a running game. Nonetheless eventually he will get hit - and hopefully he is not fragile. I also believe that it will be next year not this year - but think that maybe with Clements help - Love will have a better first full starter year than AR did. Especially if the D lives up to the expectations this year.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 03, 2023 at 12:05 pm
I wouldn't try to hold JL up to AR's yards as first year starter, but it's wins that matter anyway. 6 this year and a Lombardi in 2025, no pressure :)
If JL goes for the open man and hands the ball off when it should be a run play, that would be a HUGE improvement over recent years.
PatrickGB
September 03, 2023 at 09:52 am
The national consensus has went from “Love is awful” to “Love is average to good”. I am fine with that. Now it’s a matter of the team and coaches around him. If the rest of the team is good, then we will be ok.
GregC
September 03, 2023 at 10:02 am
The preseason had sort of a rudimentary feel to it, as in, "Let's keep the #1 offense in there until Jordan throws a confidence-building TD pass against the other team's backups." Eventually he did that in all three games, so mission accomplished, I guess, but we still don't know how he's going to look when going up against an NFL defense at full intensity with blitzes, disguised coverages, and so on. I think he'll do okay, but we won't know until it happens. I'm hoping he gets off to a faster start than he did in the preseason games. Maybe they should lean on the run and the short passing game a little more on that opening drive.
LLCHESTY
September 03, 2023 at 10:51 am
I think he'll be fine with that aspect of the game. Working with Rodgers for three years on the precessing part of being a QB will be a great help. Where Rodgers learned as much what not to do as what to do from Favre Love got to watch how an accurate NFL MVP processed the action.
I'm mostly worried about his accuracy, especially from off-platform throws. Some QBs just can't help but revert to bad mechanics when under pressure. We won't know until he's under duress, which should be right from the start of the season. DCs are going to throw the kitchen sink at him until he shows he can burn them if they do. His accuracy is something that can still improve as the game slows down for him but it will be bits and pieces now, not a wholesale shift.
The other unknown is how he mentally handles a bad game. I think he'll be fine there but we won't know until it happens.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 03, 2023 at 12:08 pm
Greg,
I definitely want to see JL going for high probability plays early. Hopefully that's what gets called.
My only worry is sometimes he seems to think he can thread the needle like AR12; he shouldn't even be thinking about trying that yet.
davekenya
September 03, 2023 at 10:09 am
Love has had the preseason to gain confidence and comfort being ‘the guy’; all the reps will help him build his mental library of reading/responding to defenses. As mentioned (and also mentioned by TV game commentators) the preseason is not the regular season and teams will be playing their number one guys and specifically creating schemes against your offense rather than simply evaluating their own 90 player squads. So, ‘cautiously optimistic’ works for me.
Leatherhead
September 03, 2023 at 10:25 am
If we get people blocked, Love and the rest of the skill positions will put points on the board.
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 02:58 pm
You sound like a coach, LH. And to extend your remarks, if we also tackle ball carriers with authority, Love and the skill positions will put even more points on the board.
Football is all about both. And it starts up front with the big men: First to block and first to tackle. Do you think both lines starting next Sunday are the best groups we have had for a long time? I do.
Leatherhead
September 03, 2023 at 05:02 pm
The only real difference between practice and games is protecting your QB. If you can protect him in the game, he'll be just as good as he is in practice. If he has to run around a bunch, or if he gets pounded into the turf a few times, he isn't going to be as good.
Bitternotsour
September 04, 2023 at 09:46 am
herein lies the rub. there are quarterbacks who improve their surroundings. i think of tarkenton, marino, favre, elway. There are others. they existed on a weird transcendent plain.
they can elevate a team, put them on their shoulders (so to speak), make something out of nothing. tarkenton, marino, and even the others don't have a lot of team trophies to illustrate their greatness.
roger staubach wasn't all that. bart was a huge winner but he wasn't unitas. terry bradshaw as was previously noted by hollywood henderson - couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the t.
i'm not expecting jordan love to be joe montana. i do expect him to be good, as do i think the team will be quite good. but, it's the last day of summer, and as a packer fan, hope springs eternal.
jannesbjornson
September 04, 2023 at 02:19 pm
I am expecting him to be at the same level as Justin Herbert. He is the guy he will be linked with from the Class of 2020. Burrow and Hurts already put their squads in the SB. They will be his competition, not some ghosts.
Bitternotsour
September 04, 2023 at 06:22 pm
I don't think using Justin Herbert as a measure is a bad place to start. Also too, Justin Herbert is REALLY good.
TarynsEyes
September 03, 2023 at 10:42 am
Ticking the boxes doesn't mean the same as it once did, especially in this day, when all are graded as equals for fear of failing the underachiever. I'm not saying Love underachieved, but he surely is benefitting from grade averaging.
WestCoastPackerBacker
September 03, 2023 at 02:23 pm
“all are graded as equals for fear of failing the underachiever”
I don’t see how this applies in the NFL. Players fail all the time. Players are graded constantly from college through their NFL careers with every snap on film to review and learn from.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 10:04 pm
Don't interrupt Taryn when she's un-apologetically and defiantly bucking the common narrative and lamenting the state of our country as a bunch of whimpering woke panty-waists. It is what she does.
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 03:04 pm
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
PackBacker
September 03, 2023 at 11:09 am
Seven days and a little over 4 hours until the new era of Love and harmony begins. The cold ones are already iced down and ready. I can't wait.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 03, 2023 at 12:10 pm
I've got Oktoberfest from both WI & TX :)
splitpea1
September 03, 2023 at 11:15 am
Love being willing to throw to open receivers anywhere and taking what the defense gives you will be a welcome change from his predecessor. Hopefully this will result in more long methodical drives and less of those wasteful three-and-outs that resulted from a desire to air it out.
Grandfathered
September 04, 2023 at 06:00 pm
Maybe an interception or two, but hopefully less than Favre but more than Rogers.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 10:06 pm
This is the measured and reasonable expectation. More than Rodgers, less than Favre.
jont
September 03, 2023 at 11:21 am
Kurt Warner released another good, in depth piece a few days ago. He titled the video about Love "I Like What I'm Seeing."
He reviewed several plays and focused on decision making. He believes Love is seeing the field correctly and (almost always) doing the right thing with the ball. He sees preparation and composure. The accuracy issues, Warner believes, come from incorrect footwork and are fixable with a little work.
He's inexperienced and the game will come at him fast beginning next week, but Love seems ready to go.
HawkPacker
September 03, 2023 at 11:50 am
Great news jont. I have a lot of respect for Kurt Warner and his message speaks volumes.
LLCHESTY
September 03, 2023 at 12:50 pm
"The accuracy issues, Warner believes, come from incorrect footwork and are fixable with a little work."
I agree with Warner on the accuracy issues but he's had 3 years of practice to correct it. Not sure if it gets corrected under fire.
Oppy
September 04, 2023 at 10:09 pm
JT O'Sullivan also has multiple breakdowns of Love's work to date, and he also is intrigued / impressed with Love. He's perhaps a bit more critical of Love than Warner, but he also likes what he sees and thinks Love has talent and is interested in seeing where it goes.
In fact.. pretty much all the ex-NFL QB / coaches who have reviewed Love's body of work are on the same page. It all boils down to how it translates for 17 games a year under the bright lights.
cheesehead1
September 03, 2023 at 11:23 am
I don’t believe 10 faced a first team defense in preseason. I’m cautiously optimistic, but until we see him against opposing teams best D, then we’ll have a better idea. It would sure help him greatly if Barrys D finally stepped up but that’s another big if.
HawkPacker
September 03, 2023 at 11:52 am
Good point ch, however at least he has looked good doing it.
The other thing is that he will have to play the entire game, not just a quarter. This is a big change in what he is used to and I have not yet seen a comment about his playing a total game as of yet. I think this is a huge change for him and I can't wait to see him progress through the year.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 03, 2023 at 12:14 pm
HP,
you raise a point I've been afraid to articulate. I know they have been putting in 10+ hour days not just the 2 hours that have been open to the public, but I've only seen him in there for stretches of roughly 15 minutes.
Being "on" for every play is a skill unto itself. Hopefully the whole team does that ...
cheesehead1
September 03, 2023 at 12:18 pm
Agree totally.
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 03:15 pm
Jordan and his coach will both progress together. It could be a very good partnership. Seems to be going well so far.
I believe Love is a good student and welcomes coaching and MLF will enjoy calling plays he has confidence will be implemented with a very solid surrounding cast.
Coldworld
September 04, 2023 at 07:23 am
This season is as much about LaFleur and his team as about Love. If LaFleur is good tactically, schematically and with personnel then Love has a much better chance.
greengold
September 03, 2023 at 05:10 pm
Hawk, I think Jordan Love can’t wait to play an entire game. This is what he does. His passion. He’s prepared his whole life for this moment, coming up Sunday at 3:30pm CST.
jannesbjornson
September 03, 2023 at 06:03 pm
He had the K.C. start in hostile territory and looked good in Philly. He should have the novelty of the bright lights processed by now and ready to focus on the Game.
Packers0808
September 03, 2023 at 12:32 pm
When it comes down to it,we got rid of a diva ahole and have now got a guy who if keeps his even keel no matter how bad or good he plays is as a human being a definite upgrade. For one being 78 I hope I am around when Love is as good or better than the last onewe had as a human being. I will take Fun Favre gunslinger any day after Rodgers last 3 years or so as well as Love! Rodgers backside was kissed a lot longer by Murphy than was needed!
stockholder
September 03, 2023 at 01:09 pm
Rodgers backside was kissed - ??
No - he bent over and said AGAIN
Money can't solve everything.
He knew he'd get hosed. -
Friends and agents talk.
You sure can beat a dead horse .
Packers0808
September 03, 2023 at 01:21 pm
No he hosed the Packers and especially their fans, good riddings to the lame duck!
WestCoastPackerBacker
September 03, 2023 at 02:17 pm
Can anyone explain something to me? I have never understood how a quarterback can get through college as a starter and get drafted in the NFL, particularly the first round, and have a problem with accuracy. If anyone can explain that, I would appreciate it.
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 03:22 pm
I cannot explain it. It becomes even more unsolvable when trying to explain accuracy issues for someone who does not have the problem.
GregC
September 03, 2023 at 05:26 pm
Easy to explain. Jordan Love's problem with accuracy is a fairly minor one and mostly occurs early in games and on deep throws. No QB is accurate all of the time, especially when they are throwing deep.
greengold
September 03, 2023 at 09:16 pm
Shocking, isn’t it?
per Doug Farrar-
Bob McGinn:
“As a rookie, Rodgers' six substantial outings included a scrimmage against Buffalo, four exhibition games and the fourth quarter of a December night game in Baltimore.
He was brutal every time out.
In each of the exhibition games, Brett Favre started before turning it over to Rodgers. Until his 20th and final series, when the Packers scored a touchdown in Tennessee with the aid of a 33-yard penalty for pass interference, Rodgers had not generated a point. Sixteen possessions ended with punts, two on interceptions and one on a fumble.
If the No. 2 quarterback job had been awarded based on performance in training camp and games, it would have gone to Craig Nall hands-down.”
In addition, as McGinn remembers, there were several scouts and personnel executives who rated some very … um … "unconventional" quarterbacks over Rodgers at the time — worldbeaters like Charlie Whitehurst and Brodie Croyle. Not one of a pool of 18 talent evaluators put Rodgers in the same class as the Big Three of the time: Matt Leinart, Vince Young and Jay Cutler.
Why was Rodgers behind the 8-ball? First, he came from a system at Cal where he was told to do specific mechanical things that hampered his style:
“He had been taught at California by coach Jeff Tedford to carry the ball high near his ear, on the so-called "shelf." Rodgers insisted that it quickened his release and sharpened his accuracy, but it also limited his ability to vary his release point against pressure and probably prevented him from really driving the ball downfield.
McCarthy has said the Packers worked with Rodgers to carry the ball lower to enhance his natural throwing motion, and by about his third year his ball positioning no longer was an issue.”
Beyond that, Rodgers also had to take care of a few mental and emotional factors — early on, he would point out when teammates made less-than-perfect plays when things weren't going well, and that's as sure a no-no for any elite quarterback as there can be. Part of what Rodgers had to do was simply to grow up.
Rodgers did take 50 sacks in 2009…
packerfanroy
September 04, 2023 at 02:25 am
In the simplest terms its about the disparity and level of competition at the college level and coaching.
College ball is still just a bunch of kids a couple of years out of HS playing other kids a few years out of HS. So the draft gurus arent saying the QB is inaccurate at the college level. They are saying that what the QB did at college was enough to excel at the college level but that against REAL competition (fully grown freakishly athletic men with high football IQ's competing for multi million $$ contracts) its not gonna be good enough.
NFL coaches feel like they can coach that QB up because they have the knowledge and the need to. College coaches dont need to spend precious time trying to get the QB to that level because they are good enough to win college games without that and the vast majority of college coaches dont have the knowledge needed to coach a guy up to pro level quality...its why they coach in college and not the pros....
CheeseEdWest2
September 04, 2023 at 08:42 am
Think James Jones, Devante Adams and many other receivers in their early years: once they aren't thinking and are just purely reacting to the situation, they don't drop the ball. Hopefully when he's thinking less about the basics (and it seems he still needs to think about footwork), his accuracy will go up.
Qoojo
September 03, 2023 at 02:38 pm
Well, we didn't get the Bill Belichick "Can make all the throws" checkbox checked
LambeauPlain
September 03, 2023 at 03:43 pm
I am bullish on Jordan Love. Definitely a buy. Great growth potential. Solid dividends likely paid early. Outstanding ROI potential.
Love seems to be a high character young man in his public life. Works hard. Supports his teammates. Even keeled. Smart and determined. Knows the offense and the plays called by his coach. Talented and athletic. And best of all, he's also bullish on his teammates playing alongside him.
Long term play...I am going to keep him in my Packer Portfolio for awhile.
greengold
September 03, 2023 at 10:16 pm
Love it!!! Lol. Same.
Matt
September 03, 2023 at 04:55 pm
I know we'll find out anything after week 1 and it will take the whole season to verify who's good and who's below average, but today I like what I see. Some starters around the league got their time to play in preseason. I know it was only preseason but they could perform good or bad. Jordan Love looked good and calm what was promissing. I think at least there were no signs to be warried about. Justin Fields looked bad in my opinion. Stats were ok at best but still better than the general performace. Even with this long TD pass (scored thanks to WR's effort) he had negative air yards in the game. I don't really care how Fields and Bears are doing. It's their business we have our problems too. I just don't buy this Fields hype. In the same time Jordan will have to do extra effort to finally be treated seriously, only because he enters the field after Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. This guy deserves a chance.
Leatherhead
September 03, 2023 at 05:06 pm
This is off topic, but yesterday , TCU and Colorado played a pretty exciting game. TCU crushed the run game, and Colorado only had like 60 net rushing yards on over 30 carries. But they scored almost 50 points.
Football has changed since dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Stuffing the run is not nearly as important as some people continue to believe.
LeotisHarris
September 03, 2023 at 06:20 pm
Yeah, but that's with Coach Prime! Damn Buffalos chuckin' the rock over five hunerd yards in the air.
And, just so we're square, man, Noah put two of every dinosaur on his ark. I seen it in a moo-zee-um in Kentucky.
Leatherhead
September 04, 2023 at 09:25 am
Leotis, I heard this today and I want to share it with you.
Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, and Mick Jagger are all in their 80s. Never underestimate the benefit of sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
pantz_bURp
September 03, 2023 at 09:16 pm
#10 is our QB...#12 no longer is. I like #10, I will cheer for him and the whole team/organization.
I am looking for the team to play in unison. It needs to and that will be a breath of fresh air if/when I see it during the regular season...and at some point down the road, the playoffs.
This will be fun, however it unfolds. Just improve through experience baby!
Yours truly,
PBurp
PS. Y 2 Banana K, yip cabbage on 2. Ready, break!
packerfanroy
September 05, 2023 at 01:11 am
The biggest thing that no one seems to even come close to touching on for the Packers is this....
How is MLF gonna handle the blitz???
Over the years with Aaron Rodgers, teams blitzed the Packers alot less than other QB's because ARod would make them pay. Now that Arod is gone you can bet that teams are gonna be opening up the blitz packages alot more against the Packers. We saw this with JLove's game against the Chiefs. MLF didnt have alot of time to change the game plan but still admitted to not being as prepared as he should have been. This is one aspect of the game that JLove didnt get alot of experience watching ARod because teams simply didnt do it that much.
How MLF sets JLove and the offense up to handle this is gonna be one of the key questions that determine how this season goes.