Is Jordan Love Better Off Without Davante Adams?

Love would surely benefit from an experienced receiver like Adams, but how much?

On March 17th, 2022, the Packers traded away their All-Pro wide receiver, Davante Adams. It was a move that would kickstart the team rebuilding their offense over the next two years. Neither the Packers nor Davante Adams really commented on the situation in detail, just on the fact that it was time to move on. Many thought, perhaps Adams didn't believe in Jordan Love. He knew Aaron Rodgers wasn't long for his time with the Packers and preferred to go to his friend Derek Carr in Las Vegas than tie himself to an uncertain quarterback. With Adams about to have his third different opening-day quarterback during his time in Vegas, and Jordan Love looking like the clear-cut starter for the Packers for years to come, Adams has been called out a lot for his decision. Recently, Adams stated that he would have stayed in Green Bay and rolled with Jordan Love had the Packers given him the money he wanted. This has set commentary ablaze imagining what Jordan Love having Davante Adams at his disposal would be capable of. 

Easily the best Packers player of the 90s that wasn't on the 1996/97 Super Bowl-winning squad, was Sterling Sharpe. When you look back to the 1992, 93, and 1994 seasons, the connection between Brett Favre and Sterling Sharpe was one of the most dynamic in Packers history. Many credit Favre's rise to having an All-Pro receiver like Sterling Sharpe lined up wide. Of course, Favre likely learned a lot from Sharpe and he provided an excellent target for a young QB. But looking back at it, you see how much Brett Favre relied on Sterling Sharpe. In the 1993 season alone, 35% of Favre's total completions, were to Sterling Sharpe. Sharpe was also quoted once telling Favre to "just get me the ball." Even though Favre turned out just fine, these types of quarterback/receiver relationships can sometimes hurt development. It causes them to rely on that receiver to always be open and when they're not around, they lack chemistry with the rest of the targets and things spiral. 

So, let's imagine the Packers added another five or so million dollars per year to their offer in 2022 and Davante Adams accepted. He played one more year with Aaron Rodgers at the helm before Rodgers was traded to the New York Jets and Jordan Love took over as the starting quarterback. We'll say all other receivers left the team as they did in the 2022 and 2023 off-seasons. Without the trade capital from him, and Adams locked down for four years with GB, I don't think Christian Watson would have been drafted by the Packers but the team still had to re-fill their receivers room. So, we'll say Doubs, Reed, Wicks, Toure, and DuBose are drafted still. So, Jordan Love has a possible future Pro Football Hall of Famer in Davante Adams, and then three rookies and two second-year receivers.

For Love's first season as the starter, he has one very seasoned and accomplished receiver and five very inexperienced receivers. 

Would the Success Match Up?

Entering the 2023 season, Jordan Love would have one receiver he knows very well as he'd spent the last three years around him and then five he didn't know all that well. I could see Love getting together with all his targets before camp to try developing chemistry, but there's still that one guy whose skill cannot be denied who would constantly get that first look. No matter what looks Love had each play, I think he likely would always be looking for Davante Adams. He could have five receivers on the field, but Adams would likely always be the first and fourth look, maybe more. Throwing to Davante Adams would become Love's security blanket. When everything else wasn't panning out, just put it up for Davante and see if he comes down with it. There would probably still be some success to it regardless, but it would hurt the development of the rest of the offense. 

Towards the end of Aaron Rodgers' time in Green Bay, many said he hated young receivers. That wasn't quite the case, but I believe it had everything to do with trust. Why spend his time trying to get more targets to unproven rookies when he has his established veterans in Adams, Cobb, and Lazard? In some ways that may have been the downfall of the last few years of his career in Green Bay. But he was on the "win now" train and that train didn't waste time developing rookies if it didn't have to. 

Jordan Love would've had a little more inexperience than experience around him, but he was also inexperienced. That's why I think he would've focused a little more on Davante Adams than other receivers and relied on him.

Receiving security blankets, however, can cause some forced throws. It can cause young QBs to panic and just send it to their favorite target right away with sometimes disastrous results. Jordan Love not having Davante Adams to fall back on, caused him to play the play as it was written. Love would go through his progressions as designed and wouldn't play favorite with who got the catch. Take a look at the Packers' receiving corps right now, and the fact that they have no clear-cut WR1 is seen as a good thing. In one game Christian Watson could be the difference-maker, and then in the next Romeo Doubs, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, or Bo Melton. Each receiver is developing at the same time. They're getting relatively the same amount of looks and experience. 

This causes defenses to not know who to focus coverage on during a given down. Either one of those receivers could be a threat. If Davante Adams is on the field, however, Adams is undoubtedly the WR1 and there's kind of a "need" to get the ball to Davante. 

Love may have had some success with Davante Adams. There's a chance it could've been on Sterling Sharpe/Brett Favre levels. But when it comes to Love's development, and the development of the rest of the weapons on the Packers' offense, there's a chance Jordan Love could've been better off without Davante Adams. 

 

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Guam's picture

July 14, 2024 at 07:36 am

These kinds of articles annoy me because they completely ignore the financial side of the transaction and focus only on the player connections. Adams' contract with the Packers would have been huge (the Raiders signed Adams to a five year, $140 million contract which is $28 million AAV). The author suggested the Packers should have added $5 million per year to that or around $33 million AAV to keep Adams. How many other players would the Packers have to cut to accommodate Adams contract?

The Packers could never have afforded Xavier McKinney and likely would have had to release Preston Smith to accommodate Adams contract. So...the Packer receivers with Adams and without Watson and no McKinney or Smith versus the present roster. Thank you Gute for making the right decision.

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Bitternotsour's picture

July 14, 2024 at 08:57 am

Also overlooks potential toxicity issues. Adams was a Rodgers man. He surely would not appreciate being a decoy. Also, losing Adams to Las Vegas gave added impetus for Rodgers to leave town. Win, win.

Back to younger, faster, cheaper.

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Guam's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:54 am

Meinholz has written some solid articles for CHTV, but this one was a miss on several levels. I took the financial angle, you raised the toxicity issue and 13TC (below) did an excellent job of summarizing Adams' departure from the Packers which was not about money at the time.

Recently Adams has made negative comments about the Packers and his departure from Green Bay. Why authors have decided to amplify and extend his comments and this issue is beyond me. The guy is gone of his own volition. Move on.

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Qoojo's picture

July 14, 2024 at 01:16 pm

It might annoy you, but try writing multiple stories about football in July to keep someone like you interested. Don't forget to look around and see what was already covered ad nauseum.

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Guam's picture

July 14, 2024 at 04:19 pm

Understand your viewpoint but this article felt particularly unresearched and stream of conscious to me. It didn't take Bitter or 13TC or myself much writing or research to better develop the topic and more thoroughly explore the issue. Meinholz is usually good and this just seemed out of character. Maybe it is the July ennui before preseason but this could have been better.

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GregC's picture

July 14, 2024 at 02:20 pm

An article about a hypothetical situation can't be expected to explain every single implication of the scenario. Of course the Packers would've had to make sacrifices to keep Adams, but they could've done it if they really wanted to. I'm fine with the author just focusing on the pros and cons of how a young QB is affected by playing with a great veteran WR. I think it's kind of an interesting question actually.

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stockholder's picture

July 14, 2024 at 07:52 am

If it was time to move on.
It still is.

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ricky's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:07 am

Could you clarify your post? The first sentence is clear. The second sentence seems to indicate that Love is the one to "move on" from. Or am I reading too much into this? Not accusing, just asking for whether you think Love is the answer, or the Packers should let him walk or try to trade him.

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stockholder's picture

July 14, 2024 at 12:31 pm

Packers vs Adams = move on.
The new direction was obvious.
Going back isn't moving on.
So you are reading too much into it.
#2 - IMO- Love is the Packer QB.
He needs good players that stay healthy.
More than used-up players that are over-paid.
#3 Is he the answer?
If he keeps the packers winning. Yes.
If he can't- No
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Bearmeat's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:05 am

STAHP IT.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:38 am

Davante Adams own words:

"June 9th 2022 Sports Illustrated After Davante Adams was traded to the Raiders on March 17 after eight seasons with the Packers, the five-year deal he signed with his new squad worth $141.25 million. It later came out that the Packers were willing to offer their star receiver the same amount or more in order to keep him in Green Bay. But, Adams decided to leave the only organization he had played for. The California native admitted on Thursday to media members that the Packers had indeed offered him more money than Las Vegas. Ultimately, the trade meant more to him than money. He said wanted to be near where he grew up and be close to his family. “I’ll say it, it was true, O.K.,” Adams said in the Raiders’ press conference. “But, like I said, there’s more that goes into it. Family is a big part of it for me, so geographically being here it makes it a lot easier for me to stay connected to my family year round. This isn’t Year 2. I’m not necessarily trying to ‘fight for a job’ or anything like that to where you gotta do what you gotta do to stay out there. I had the choice, and the choice was for me to come here and raise my family on the west coast and come out here and have some fun in the sun. It’s hard to explain.”

It wasn't about money.
It wasn't about respect or lack thereof.
After 8 years in Green Bay, he wanted to play closer to his family.

Two articles in two days about a player who no longer plays here, no longer wants to play here and will never play here again. Maybe time to move on and stop trying to create controversy where there isn't any?

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HawkPacker's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:43 am

" Recently, Adams stated that he would have stayed in Green Bay and rolled with Jordan Love had the Packers given him the money he wanted." If I remember correctly, we matched the Raiders offer and Adams said um no!

I read an article recently on another site about Adams possibly coming back to the Packers. That would be a terrible move. Why would we want to upset what we have now which to me is a winning combination with our current receivers.

Conclusion: Adams can stay where he is.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 14, 2024 at 09:45 am

We are better off without Adams. He had his chance(s) to show he could make the difference for us, and he didn't.

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Edit. I'm not understanding the down votes. Is it that

you disagree that we are better off without Adams.

He had his chance(s)

He didn't make the difference for us (didn't get us to the Super Bowl).

I would appreciate some clarification and/or elaboration on that.

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LeotisHarris's picture

July 14, 2024 at 10:49 am

One must not try to understand the down vote, LH. Like Lyndon Johnson said, just like a jackass in a hailstorm, you have to hunker down and take it.

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Bitternotsour's picture

July 14, 2024 at 12:15 pm

to paraphrase clint eastwood (if I may) - validations got nothin to do with it

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2024 at 01:39 pm

I'd take it a step further. One should take pride in the down votes. They definitely should fix it so you can't vote for your own comment. Stockholder's 1👍 11👎 would be funnier. Giving yourself a down vote to get the ball rolling is also in poor taste.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 14, 2024 at 02:38 pm

I've had more than my share of down votes...so what? Who the hell cares?

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Leatherhead's picture

July 14, 2024 at 04:10 pm

I just want to know what they disagreed with, and why. That's kind of the purpose of a discussion board. And if the downvote is just to say "I don't like you", then just go ahead and say that. It's an anonymous shot without any accountability, and does nothing to further anybody's understanding about anything. It's a counterproductive feature on a discussion board.

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Guam's picture

July 14, 2024 at 04:31 pm

Not quite sure why you have become such a lightning rod LH, but I suspect you would get a downvote or two if you declared the sky is blue. Like you I much prefer dialogue to votes, either up or down. I learn a lot more from the dialogue.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 14, 2024 at 05:00 pm

"And if the downvote is just to say "I don't like you", then just go ahead and say that."

If that was a shot at me, you're wasting your time. I've already told you that I don't like you...more than once. If I have something to say to someone, I say it. I don't hide behind anonymous down votes. I actually had nothing against your original comment.

I was responding to Chesty and the general discussion of downvotes. I just think it's silly for anyone to get upset when someone you've never met...and never will...downvotes you. A total waste of time and energy in my opinion.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 14, 2024 at 05:59 pm

Not a shot at you. I'm aware that downvotes are not your style. And no, I'm not upset, I'm curious.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

July 14, 2024 at 05:09 pm

I've had hundreds of down votes and there is a good chance I deserved every one of them. However, they never upset me to the point that I couldn't eat dinner.

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nagawicka's picture

July 14, 2024 at 10:57 pm

Adams didn't FAIL us, and elected to play in California even though we ante-ed up to pay him. We're better off without a #1 AllPro league-leading prima donna wide receiver whose only function is to grab alllll balls at the expense of winning. Do you want a Derrick Mayes because the hype machine keeps telling you to pay for the name and the marketing, or do you want three or four Donald Drivers?

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

July 15, 2024 at 01:05 pm

Hey Adams was NEVER ever a DIVA. He was hard working in every stage of his career, never claimed to want more balls; never did anything but be a great teammate in the WR room. He's not a prima donna or a diva at all. He's a talented player who has worked extremely hard at his craft and risen to the very top. Unfortunately, the WR salaries have skyrocketed so the days of draft and develop at that position make it tough to keep the really productive players around. So you keep drafting young and talented guys and get them into the flow of the offense, like they showed they could do last year.

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nagawicka's picture

July 15, 2024 at 01:32 pm

Hey completely agree. Every NFL team should & will roster a James Lofton or a Davante Adams every chance they get. So the question's a trap. Every NFL franchise would also roster a Sterling Sharpe or John Jefferson at #2 when the 1 slot's filled. Thing is, you can't UN-balance the roster, or the play-calling, or salary distribution, just to feed one player no matter how good. Makes you vulnerable to . . . NFL defenses . .. injuries, contract demands . ..

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DragonSilk's picture

July 14, 2024 at 10:26 am

There's a whole lot of "If that had happened, then this would have happened," in the article. Those things are impossible to know.
Adams will go down as one of the best ever, but I wouldn't put much on his ability to rate QB's. He left AR to go play with Derek Carr. He obviously would increase the talent level tremendously, but he also would decrease the playing time and targets of the younger guys. That's just numbers.
I loved Davante when he was here, but I don't want him back. I'm excited as all get out to watch this young receiver squad develop this year.

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GregC's picture

July 14, 2024 at 11:18 am

For some reason, the author stopped just short of mentioning the highly relevant fact that Brett Favre and the Packer offense actually got better when Sterling Sharpe left. That's all anyone really needs to know. In the long run, it's better for a young QB to have multiple targets rather than one dominant veteran receiver.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2024 at 01:44 pm

"Brett Favre and the Packer offense actually got better when Sterling Sharpe left."

That's not really true. A lot of people think that but Sharpe got 159 targets in '94 and Brooks got 167 targets in '95. It wasn't that Sharpe was dragging the offense down, the talent around Favre improved quite a bit in '95 and '96.

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GregC's picture

July 14, 2024 at 02:13 pm

1994--382 points, 5,520 yards
1995--404 points, 5,967 yards

So yes, the offense actually got better.

Not sure what the total targets for Sharpe in '94 vs. Brooks in '95 has to do with it. Did you know that when the QB throws the ball away on purpose it counts as a "target" for the nearest receiver?

Brooks did have a more productive year in '95 than Sharpe did in '94, in terms of both receptions and yards, but I remember it being a very different dynamic that year, with all of the young talent on offense learning to play together. It just felt a lot looser, in a good way.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

July 14, 2024 at 11:31 am

Of course Love is better off without Adams. He'd be on the Raiders instead of the potential 2024 season Super Bowl winning Packers. End of discussion.

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PackBacker's picture

July 14, 2024 at 01:28 pm

Is there an official Statute of Limitations on how long we can indulge in what-if obsession about former Packer players? If not, there should be.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

July 15, 2024 at 01:09 pm

It's just that Adams is saying stuff in interviews now. I mean what else can he do, playing for the awful Raiders franchise? How he ever thought that was going to work for him I'll never know. They way they run that organization, he should have figured Carr was on a short leash. At least in GB he had 1 QB and only 2 HCs in his career. He's already more of both after 1 years in black and silver. But maybe he likes being the big man there.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2024 at 01:47 pm

They certainly wouldn't have drafted so many receivers over the last two years if Adams had stayed so it worked out perfectly. I loved Adams but I'd rather have the group they have now than Adams and the collection of misfit toys they had at receiver in Rodgers' last years.

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vin0770's picture

July 14, 2024 at 02:02 pm

I’m against having ANY receiver that would live in the ear of a QB and f-ing with the progression of reads he’s been taught to go through organically. Let’s put one more thing on the QB plate by being a #1 receiver on the food chart that reminds him…NOT! Let the guy play the game his way, he kinda has a full plate.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 14, 2024 at 06:14 pm

There used to be a real good free site called Coldhardfootballfacts.com, and they wrote a multitude of articles...data based....that led them to conclude that MOST WRs are fungible...interchangeable. They also called WRs "Shiny Hood Ornaments", that are rarely worth second contracts.

All in all, it seems like you're ahead of the curve if you let WRs leave after their first deal is over, and replace them in the draft.

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HawkPacker's picture

July 14, 2024 at 07:45 pm

As good as Gute has been in drafting WR's, then yes maybe they should not give any second contracts to our WR's unless they are somewhat team friendly. I don't like using the team friendly phrase but it does get the point across.

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egbertsouse's picture

July 14, 2024 at 03:26 pm

I love articles that argue that teams are better with average players than with good players. Right, the Patriots are way better off now than when they had Brady and Randy Moss. And just think how good the Chiefs would be if they could just dump Mahomes, Kelce, and Chris Jones and play their backups.

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GLM's picture

July 15, 2024 at 09:02 pm

Any capable defense, which is what we usually see in the playoffs, especially deep in the playoffs, can shut down one guy, or even one aspect of an offense. In this matter, we are better off without Davante than with him. This could be the best offense we've seen since 2010 and 2011.

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Ya_tittle's picture

July 15, 2024 at 12:44 pm

Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES! The benefit of our current lineup is that from week to week, the Number One guy changes.

Just imagine being a DC and having to deal with that.

Contrast that last Rodger's playoff game where they doubled and tripled Adams and Rodgers still threw it to him.

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GLM's picture

July 15, 2024 at 08:57 pm

I guess we'll never know. I think Matt's system works incredibly well with multiple weapons at every position I'll take that approach any day. The guys have shown they are all in with Jordan. I am really looking forward to watching this team. They have what it takes to win It all. GPG!!!

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