How the Packers Can Make the Playoffs

Green Bay needs to win out to have a realistic shot at the postseason

The Green Bay Packers are truly alive and officially in the hunt for the NFC wild card race. After the bye week, their playoff chances were up from 4% to 6%, according to Five Thirty Eight. And the results needed from other teams, even if necessary, are all realistic. The problem is that the Packers themselves have to win out the last four games to have a real shot — the Packers still face the Los Angeles Rams, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, and Detroit Lions.

Technically, there is still a chance to make the playoffs winning three out of the last four games, but this possibility demands several other results and it doesn't make much sense to talk about it.
So, let's project a scenario where the Packers run the table. They would finish the season with a 9-8 record.

There are three wild card spots, and one of them will certainly go to the second-place team in the NFC East (presumably, the Dallas Cowboys). The other two spots are wide open. Take a look at every contender for those spots besides the Packers. Only one of them can finish ahead of the Packers for Green Bay to be in the playoffs.

Washington Commanders (7-5-1)
Playoff chances: 72%
Remaining schedule: vs Giants, at 49ers, vs Browns, vs Cowboys

New York Giants (7-5-1)
Playoff chances: 44%
Remaining schedule: at Commanders, at Vikings, vs Colts, at Eagles

The Commanders and Giants face each other next week, and whoever wins will need only one more win to be ahead of the Packers, even if Green Bay wins out. So Packers fans here need to watch this game and basically forget about the winner. The key is the loser. Whoever loses this one will have to lose two more — it's drastic, but not unrealistic considering their remaining schedules.

Seattle Seahawks (7-6)
Playoff chances: 55%
Remaining schedule: vs 49ers, at Chiefs, vs Jets, vs Rams
The Seahawks have two tough games in the next two weeks and two easier ones to finish out the season. If they go 2-2, they will also be 9-8, but the Packers would have a tiebreaker advantage — unless they beat both NFC teams and lose to both AFC teams. Therefore, if the Seahawks lose to the 49ers and Chiefs, for instance, the Packers would be able to surpass them winning out.

Detroit Lions (6-7)
Playoff chances: 22%
Remaining schedule: at Jets, at Panthers, vs Bears, at Packers
The Lions have a relatively easy schedule to finish out the season, so it's possible that they visit Lambeau Field in week 18 with nine wins. However, if the Packers win out and beat them in Green Bay, they would have a tiebreaker advantage over the Lions too.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-7)
Playoff chances: 74%
Remaining schedule: vs Bengals, at Cardinals, vs Panthers, at Falcons

Carolina Panthers (5-8)
Playoff chances: 21%
Remaining schedule: vs Steelers, vs Lions, at Buccaneers, at Saints

Atlanta Falcons (5-8)
Playoff chances: 5%
Remaining schedule:

This is an odd situation. The Panthers’ playoffs chances are a bit inflated because they can realistically win the division. So if they win out, they win the NFC South. If they don't, they'll be behind the Packers. If the Panthers win the NFC South, the Buccaneers enter the wild card race, but they would need to win every other game besides the Panthers to be ahead of Green Bay. Regarding the Falcons, even if they win out, they would be behind Green Bay in a tie break scenario.

Arizona Cardinals (4-8)
Playoff chances: 1%
Remaining schedule: vs Patriots, at Broncos, vs Buccaneers, at Falcons, at 49ers
The Cardinals still have five games left because they play the Patriots on Monday Night Football. But if the Packers win out, the Cardinals can't surpass them, even winning their last five.

As you can see, nothing absurd is demanded for the Packers to reach the playoffs — except the Packers themselves, who will need to beat at least three strong opponents to get to the postseason. The odds aren't great, but the Packers are not dead yet.

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Wendell Ferreira covers the Green Bay Packers for Zone Coverage and Cheesehead TV. He is a Brazilian journalist with over a decade of experience covering the NFL, soccer, NBA, and MMA. Follow him on twitter at @wendellfp  

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croatpackfan's picture

December 12, 2022 at 10:10 am

Wendell, if Packers beat Lions at Lambeau, why the Packers has tiebraker advantage? If Lions win vs Bears they will have 4-2 in the division as Packers if win over Vikings and Lions.

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DoubleJ's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:09 am

At that point it will come down to conference record since both the Lions and Packers will be 4-2 in the division. By nature of winning out the Packers will have a better conference record than the Lions so they win the tiebreaker.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 12, 2022 at 02:47 pm

Thanks!

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Leatherhead's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:45 am

yup. That's what I was thinking.

But the Packers just need to win a game, the next game, against the Rams. If all the cards fall right and the Packers end up in the playoffs despite everything, then that's great. I'm not holding my breath, and I'm certainly not expecting us to win all of our remaining games.

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BradHTX's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:42 pm

Stranger things have happened. Not many…but they have.

Really, though… Would there be a better cap to Aaron’s Packer career than getting hot with a healed thumb and taking this team we all left for dead to the playoffs (“Playoffs?!?” Mora never gets old, God bless him…) and improbably getting a second ring?

Is it going to happen? Almost certainly not…

Could it happen? It certainly could.

Am I rooting for it? I certainly am.

Followed by glorious retirement, structured to free up cap space for the Love-led 2023 team. A feller can always dream…

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BirdDogUni's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:00 pm

Think every Packer fan alive hopes for the dream. Some of us have seen too many seasons to actually believe it'll happen.

Truth is, this team talent wise is probably close to the 2010 team, especially considering how many guys we had on IR that year. The trouble is, the NFC and AFC powerhouses are all better than the Steelers that year.

The other big problem is: Our DC is clueless and we don't have a Charles Woodson to lead this defense.

Talent wise though, I'd put this team right up there with 2010. (Not better, but close.)

The dream would be great, but I fear even if we managed to wade through the NFC, the AFC talent would demolish us...

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BradHTX's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:34 pm

Hey BDU, long time! Hope you’re doing well.

Didn’t say I believed it would happen. Just that it was possible. Having no expectations really is liberating!

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 12, 2022 at 10:19 am

I don't know who hasn't been watching the Lions, but GB isn't beating them. So that's putting the hope to bed late, but I believe bedtime comes against Miami before we even have a chance to finish, with the Lions eating them up.

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HarryHodag's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:42 am

I was one of the few early on the season who said the Lions are coming on. With the Packers playing Miami, Minnesota and Detroit coming up, I wouldn't hold my breath about reaching the playoffs. They are favored against the Lambs but, who knows, it could be done next Monday if they lose.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:05 pm

Totally agree

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Leatherhead's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:15 pm

I've been watching the Lions for 50 years. The notion that we can't beat the Lions on our home field doesn't make much sense to me. Didn't we win in Green Bay for like 30 years in a row? Don't the Lions traditionally have trouble winning on the road.? You're letting one big win over Minnesota confuse you, because at the end of the day.....

This is the Lions. They're under .500, as usual. They have the #31 defense in the league, so all the people who think you can't win without a bulletproof defense is going to have to explain the six wins, and how they might make the playoffs.

I have been watching the Lions invent ways to lose games for a very,very long time. If I had started as a young man and bet against the Lions covering every game, I'd be a much richer man. I don't know how they'll screw themselves down the stretch (they already traded Hockenson), but I'm sure they'll find a way.

They're on the road for 3 of the last 4 games, including the season finale at Lambeau. In theory, both teams could be 8-8.

We lost to them, in Detroit, 15-9. If you want to point to one game where playing Love instead of Rodgers might have helped, that would be the one. Rodgers had a passer rating in the 50s, turned it over 3 times, and finished with a passer rating in the 50s.

I'd be willing to bet that we're going to score more than 9 points on them the next time we play.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:43 pm

You can easily win in the regular season with a leaky hole defense. Just look at the Packers for the last 2 years. Come playoff time is when defensive inefficiences start to rear their ugly heads.

Also I don't know if you've been watching the Lions but their defense has been playing well as of late, being one of the catalysts behind their turnaround of their season. Aiden Hutchinson and James Houston especially

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Packerpasty's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:36 pm

I think the Lions will come back to earth in the next few games...sure they're playing better but they are the Lions, and JG at QB shouldn't strike fear in anyone...

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Rarescope's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:27 pm

I'm not so worried about Miami after last night. The highlight of their offense in the first half was Tyreek Hill returning a fumble for a touchdown. And that was about the entirety of their first half offense.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:43 pm

I'm sure that once the doctor has prescribed Joe Barry the Dolphins will be feeling fine.

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stockholder's picture

December 12, 2022 at 10:33 am

How- Play Defense. Can Barry save his job? This is a fresh start for everyone.
The offense is in the hands of Rodgers. He can beat any Defense with these Rookies. It's up to LeFluer to play everyone!

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DoubleJ's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:10 am

I think the worst thing possible would be for the team to win out, show growth on D, and make the playoffs. If that happens I think there is a good 75% chance that LaFluer keeps Barry as the DC and we go into next year with a bad DC again.

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stockholder's picture

December 12, 2022 at 12:14 pm

It's for the Best. Get back the IR players, and change the DL. Lowrey has to go.
The packers will not pick below #15. If they don't keep going Offense with the picks.
The Vikings and Lions will take over the division. They must change this Offense.
We saw what Watson can do. They must keep getting the guys to beat the Defense.
Offensive shoot outs will be the only way to win the division.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2022 at 12:43 pm

If they win out they will. If we do that the chances are it’s 17 or 18 if we miss a wild card, 19 to 21 if we lose at the wild card stage. The top 18 picks are based on the record of non qualifiers.

There’s a very strong mathematical probability that a resurgence would simply take us out of the premium picks and into the next level. If that was through stellar play from rookies or youth, great, there’s compensation. If that’s more Rodgers and departing vets, then we will simply have screwed ourselves and gained nothing for the future either. That’s the massively mathematical probability of this denial.

That’s without the probability that Murphy then tells us they are on the right path, retains LaFleur, Barry (we won didn’t we) and triggers hawking more of our future to prove he was right when he predicted we’d contend … circling the plug hole.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:50 pm

I am predicting a 6-11 or 7-10 for the Packers. Win vs the Rams, lose in Miami (Rodgers in Florida, remember), Vikings are a toss-up, and lose vs Lions.

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Oppy's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:36 pm

"(Rodgers) can beat any Defense with these Rookies."

High praise for this year's rookies, because Rodgers historically doesn't do jack with rookies.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:22 pm

He historically doesnt do jack against great teams either.

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splitpea1's picture

December 12, 2022 at 10:51 am

Doesn't matter because we're not getting anywhere with this defense, even if we are lucky enough to make the playoffs.

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Philarod's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:17 am

It's very much a longshot -- even if the Pack win out, which is also very much a longshot.
Would I like to see it, even if they may get blown out by stronger teams.
Yes, I always want my teams to make the playoffs, and outside of The Eagles and SF because of their D, nobody is that great this year.

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HarryHodag's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:30 am

Prior to this past weekend, the Packers chance of reaching the playoffs was 4 percent according to a computer analysis.. Even with the Giants and Seahawks each losing, the Packers chances, according to 538, has grown to a 'whopping' 6 percent.

This speculation reminds me a bit of the old kids game, "Mousetrap". As you played the game you built an elaborate and convoluted set of actions, mostly determined by gravity. If everything came together through smart playing and gravity, a plastic cage would fall and trap the plastic mouse before it got to the plastic cheese and you won.

When you start with a 94 percent chance of not making the playoffs I think it's safe to say the mouse will eat the 'cheese'(heads).

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Rarescope's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:29 pm

"Prior to this past weekend, the Packers chance of reaching the playoffs was 4 percent according to a computer analysis.. Even with the Giants and Seahawks each losing, the Packers chances, according to 538, has grown to a 'whopping' 6 percent."

That's a 50% increase in one day!

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:49 pm

Sounds like my waistline over Thanksgiving...

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:41 pm

I agree. All of this playoff chatter is based upon the event that we win out, which is very unlikely.

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Heyward's picture

December 12, 2022 at 11:55 am

The Packers aren't beating the Dolphins in Miami.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:52 pm

No, not if they can't FINish strong Heyward....

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TedThomson's picture

December 25, 2022 at 04:02 pm

Wow this didn't age well 😂

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Keefer147's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:03 pm

The tiebreaker for teams in the same division is Head to Head > Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division > Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. So if the Packers win out and Lions win the next 3 games, they'll have won one head-to-head each; and have the same 4-2 division record. The Lions will have the best common games record though (6 wins vs. Packers 5). So the Lions need to lose one of the next 3 games (I think...my head hurts!)

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Keefer147's picture

December 13, 2022 at 07:22 am

My head hurt for a reason...my "common games" total was wrong. It would in fact come down to strength of schedule and that's going to change over the fianl 4 weeks. Still...that all means nothing without 4 GB wins and other results going our way. One game at a time...

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T7Steve's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:24 pm

Regardless of the playoffs, we have to beat the Vikings and Lions. Even when the Packers were at their best, you could never count out the Lions game. Our turn. Now that the Lions think they've turned the corner let's put them in their place. Want to be spoilers the rest of the way. That goes a long way to helping next year's squad.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:43 pm

"How the Packers Can Make the Playoffs"

Thanks Wendell for the info. And here, I thought it was one beautiful mystery...

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:47 pm

Lawrence Welk, kind sir...who is mainly to blame for the Packers' season so far?

"a 1 a and a 2"

*LW's mic drop*

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:54 pm

Over the last decade, many here took my comments as being negative and hoping the Packers would lose. That was far what I was saying. I always felt, and still do, that you cannot ignore the negative nor gloss over it with positive, because it will always be an issue that hurts in the end.

Now, at this point in the season, the ridiculous attempt to do such again by hoping for a playoff spot, is the very epitome of what I am against. I understand that tanking is a taboo, but trying to get what will end quick which leaves you with a false victory is defeat by ones own bad strategy. Which has been present all season.

Field a team the next four weeks with one that will help evaluate the future, and not castrate it. This team NEEDS as great a draft position as possible. Don't let pride, or belief in a lot of bad/unlikely ifs, ruin that.

In the movie Wargames, the computer said, The only way to WIN, is to not play at all. I'm not saying to not play, but I would love for this team not try to make a no-win situation a total loss.

Regrouping is not surrender, but a smart strategy to fight another battle better equipped to do so. GB needs to find out if they have better equipment, and able to get it needed.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 01:59 pm

Excellent Taryn...War Games reference.

"Shall we play a game"? A pyrrhic victory quite possibly, played on the gridiron and in some people's minds...

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:02 pm

I'm almost not always never against castrating the future, but in this case I would say by not doing so we could conceivably be usurping that which might be just outside of in-reach. To ignore any and/or all of that would be specious, pretty much.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:43 pm

You lost me at hello LeotisH.... :)

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:03 pm

I finished reading your statement Leotis but 6 minutes ago. I am still blinking into space and not sure what really happened or what was said? Starting to drool a little from one corner of my lipz.......

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 13, 2022 at 02:32 am

Leotis had me at hello.

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:48 pm

So, you think it wise to try to fill an inside straight by trying to get one of the four of that card needed, while knowing that three are already dead.

I must have missed that chapter in The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

Mr Miyagi says, you have lost your balance.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:02 pm

Verily, I say unto you, Taryn, whether the baby is thrown out with the bathwater or not, one must ponder if they walked to school or brought their lunch. Regardless, scant few remnants remain from wax-on or wax-off no matter how the pie is cut, or by whom.

No one will ever throw a shutout from the dugout, that's for sure.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:05 pm

Stop it Leotis, now you are f___in with me! :) Somebody, what the hell just happened? Someone needs to check on Leotis.......God speed....!

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:24 pm

I'll have no piece of the pie you're serving, thank you.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:26 pm

Sounds like *someone* might be in their enemy year. Hmm?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 13, 2022 at 02:40 am

The etymology of the phrase "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" is quite gross, as the way baths were taken back in the day was not sanitary.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:33 pm

Oreborous would appreciate more of that kind of insight!

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:54 pm

How about factilingulatinjunctivial? Would that describe it?

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:39 pm

Why, is there some hidden glory I'm missing in going one-and-done in the playoffs?

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Handsback's picture

December 12, 2022 at 02:15 pm

Easiest comment for me to write ever.....NO WAY WILL THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!

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Handsback's picture

December 12, 2022 at 02:16 pm

PS on last comment, it's not the offense, nor the defense, or even STs....it's all of them. Which makes the fix so hard.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:03 pm

Why not truly bait for the clicks and headline your article with How the Packers can win the Super Bowl, cure cancer, and save a basket of puppies from burning alive in a high rise while taking gun fire from ISIS? A by week shouldn’t make writers this desperate. Sorry. I’m usually 95% in favor of the content creators and scribes on this site and 99% never openly critical. But this is ridiculous. I’m still hesitant on hitting submit comment, but obviously, I just did.

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Rarescope's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:32 pm

It's the Russians now dude, ISIS is old news.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:47 pm

I heard of the steel curtain (Steelers) but now the iron curtain Rare????

Okay, I am being called back to the photo shoot.....gotta gooooo......

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DragonSilk's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:42 pm

It's kind of ironic that the toughest win of those 4 games will probably be the Lions. Not that it matters because we are not going to the dance. Even if by some miracle we do it will be 1 and done.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 03:45 pm

One might call it the MANE event! (Pack vs Lions)

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:38 pm

You don't think the Vikings will be tough? They have consistently won against sub-par teams. What about the Dolphins? Tyreek and Waddle will be slashing our secondary.

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pantz_bURp's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:12 pm

Seriously, hoof hearted?

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Jgilmor08's picture

December 12, 2022 at 04:45 pm

I’ll be very frank with my thoughts. Again I want to emphasize that they are mine alone.

As much as I’ve LOVED watching team after team get bounced from the playoffs year after year because of the exact same albeit amplified issues from the past however many seasons, I’m completely over it.

This is literal torture. For starters watching everyone turn on AR12 thanks to the negative focus of the woke media whose bias has been dictated thanks to a continued effort. But aside from that idiotic mindset clamouring for Love to run the show. Let’s see here when Love played for an out Rodgers he managed to score 7 points against a weak KC D (at the time). When Rodgers came in to relieve Fabre he did it against a two loss Dallas team who were enroute to the number 1 seed and completely balled out. He almost brought the team back from the hole they were in.

Love 19-34 55.9% 190 tds 1TD 1 InT 1 fumble rating 64
Rodgers 18-26 68% 201 yards 1 TD passing 1 rushing 0 turn overs rating 104.8

Now for the harsher truth. Do you genuinely believe an organization that’s completely shit on their all world QB will somehow find a way to get the new guy receiving talent? It took 14 years for Rodgers to finally get a second rounder (who cost two second round picks which could’ve gotten a lot of talent in trade). Otherwise like this season he’s played with undrafted Lazard, undrafted Tonyan, 5th rounder Jones, 5th rounder Doubs, Cobb who can’t run.

Let’s look at teams that are succeeding currently? Dallas has receiving talent. Buffalo has talent. Minnesota has talent. Kansas city lost a stud but sought out more talent. Miami acquired help. Seattle can still compete thanks to their stud wr. Philly has talent. Anyone seeing a theme here?

Until Gutekunst changes his philosophy which I doubt this team won’t succeed. They’ve had their flaws overcome thanks to their all world QB. Even Thompson invested heavily in receivers early on. What happened? A Super Bowl. In his later years that was fewer and farther between and the team regressed.

Finally the last point of focus. Barry must go. If there was ever a better example of not succeeding with talent he’s a shining example. I can predict his exact 3rd and long defense like clockwork. Showing blitz with both middle linebackers is a literal high school show. NFL players see through that crap cmon. He now brings the Mikes or a Mike cross as his zone blitz once every three or four series. His defense is painfully predictable to the point I don’t even watch anymore. Coaches go in every single week begging their quarterback to be patient because if he is he could have one of his best games of the season. He should have been gone by week five.

This organization will need to go low before it’ll ever fire Gutekunst. Buckle up the next few years will suck.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 12, 2022 at 05:36 pm

Gutekunst is not the problem. Murphy and LaFleur and Barry are. Remember, he has only been our GM since '18, and I think he's done a great job for the most part (excluding snubbing Creed Humphrey in 2021). Here are a list of his 1st round defensive picks: Alexander (hit), Gary (hit), Savage (had a couple of good years under Pettine but has fallen off under Barry, so an eventual bust), Stokes (we don't know yet), Walker (unknown), and Wyatt (unknown). That's a pretty good job!

You are comparing Love in his sophomore year to Rodgers in his prime. Is that really fair? You should compare Love and Rodgers when they were both in their second year. He's looked really good in his limited action this year, garnering a 119.8 QB rating to Rodgers' 92.4. I know it is too small of a sample size, but we won't know more until we play him.

In my opinion, Gutekunst has done a very good job in gathering future receiving talent in Watson, Doubs, and Toure. Of course, we'll need to see how they all play out, but if they can add one more guy in round 2 or 3 in the 2023 draft (and possibly another late rounder), they should be set for a while. Do teams regularly ever play more than 4 WRs on the field at once?

You mention all of the teams that are succeeding currently, and you say it's because of good WRs. That is, for the most part, not the entire case. Look at the Cowboys; they have the second-best record in the league not because of their stellar WRs (they traded Amari Cooper in the offseason, and have Lamb, Gallup, and not much else) but because of their defensive line. They lead the league with 49 sacks, and have made opposing QBs lives nightmares. How else could they have blown out the Vikings, Commanders, and Giants. The Eagles may have great WRs, but what you don't mention is that they lead the league in turnover differential; that's been a large part of their success. The Commanders, who have been hot as of late, have a ferocious defensive line. Buffalo has a ferocious D-line that can keep them in games when their offense fails them (see: this Sunday).

You see what happens to a team that relies on its WRs and offense to win in the regular season without a good defense to back it up when you watch the Vikings. Every time they lost, they've been blown out, and coincidentally, they have lost to the only teams they've played with double-digit wins right now. That was the Packers' recipe for 2020 and 2021; look where it got them. For the last 11 years (excluding the '19 Chiefs) every Super Bowl champion had a top-level defense. From the '21 Rams to the '20 Bucs to the '18 Pats, the '15 Broncos, or even the '10 Packers. The last two times the Packers last won the Super Bowl, their defenses were ranked #5 and #1 overall.

In 2011, the year when the Packers went 15-1 but lost in the playoffs with the #1 offense and #26 defense, what happened? it sure looks to me like they had good receivers then, didn't they? Our inability to win in the playoffs is because of the deterioration of our defense ever since 2010. We need to have a defensive reset this year, and that starts with a new DC and drafting some new defensive players.

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Jgilmor08's picture

December 12, 2022 at 09:08 pm

The stats referenced from my post ARE in fact from Rodgers first ever extended playing time in week 10 of 2008. This was Rodgers third year. In comparison to Jordan Loves extended playing time in his second year which is why I used the apples to apples stats to compare.

You are confusing the issue at hand. Of course all of these teams have solid defensive lines. This is how the current era of football works. Have an offense that puts up points and forces opponents to become one dimensional. Is Dallas getting after the quarterback because teams are shortening up the game running the ball like crazy? No they are getting sacks because the opponent A) needs to score to keep up B) the D coordinator isn’t sitting in two high nickel on first and second downs.

Yeah I’ll give you almost every first round pick as a sure fire home run. Now go ahead and give me the studs drafted after those first rounders? We traded away an all pro wr for two 1st and two 2nd round picks. If Gutekunst drafts Watson instead of Quay Walker they probably snag him with their first second round pick and get to keep the other. It’s just poorly managed.

Every third round pick from Gutekunst hasn’t even played out their whole rookie contract. Now let’s compare a minute and you can tell me if investing significant picks rings a bell for success after I list off a few high draft picks from Thompson and his classes. 2nd Jennings 2006, 3rd James Jones 2007, 2nd Jordy Nelson 2008, 3rd Jermichael Finley 2008, 2nd Randall Cobb 2011, D Adams 2014. Literally each and every one of those highly invested picks played a hand in the team succeeding. Contrast that with Guyenkunsts oh shit picks of three receivers during his fifth draft. No he should have been doing this a long time ago. Of course other teams build the rest of their team for success. That’s my point the receiver position has been neglected despite every fan knowing it was essential to draft the position. Continuing to waste high value picks on defense is downright asinine. The current defense has NINE first round picks when everyone is healthy. It’s scheme not ability.

If Love or any player is going to succeed then they need more quality than 3 serviceable players from 2018 draft, 3 serviceable players from 2019, 3 from the 2020 draft and a whopping 2 from 2021 draft. That’s awful drafting. Especially when most of these players would still be on rookie contracts yet of the 43 total draft picks used a mere 13 actually play. 11 contribute. 24 aren’t even on the team anymore. 12 are no longer even in the NFL.

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Coldworld's picture

December 13, 2022 at 08:09 am

Your stats are dubious. Your facts are wrong. Rodgers was drafted in 2005, so 2008 was his 4th season. That was the year TT drafted both Brohm and Flynn, so uncertain was the franchise about Rodgers

At that point, Love and Rodgers had very similar stats, in fact Love’s are marginally better. If you are going to cite “facts” it’s always best to remember that google is out there, even if memories fade.

No, I am not going to do the research for you. No, this does not mean I think Love is guaranteed to be anything. It’s time to find out though.

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Jgilmor08's picture

December 13, 2022 at 12:12 pm

It was Rodgers first extended playing time (year 3) vs loves first extended playing time (year 2) being the apples to apples comparison. Based on both players to that point having not been starters or received any reps. It’s common knowledge Rodgers say three seasons behind Favre so mis writing the only apples to apples connection between the players as year 2 when it was meant to be three still holds the same point as before except I had to dumb it down a bit for you. Speaking of which……
Surely someone as astute as yourself can find your way past jackass in the dictionary? Also surely your google wit and knowledge would inform you that a teams playing season which covers the back end of one calendar year and the start of another. Let me give you an example in case you suddenly go quiet on me.

Player A- let’s call him Rodgers gets drafted in the year 2005.
Player A then starts year one for the 05-06 season. That makes 1.

Player A continues to the next season or in this case 06-07. This then becomes 2.

Player A continued to the next season. Wouldn’t you know it that’s 07-08.

‘Well gee whiz that means despite covering years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 he actually only played at that point in his third season. Well dang it maybe next time I should use google before talking shit about using google to someone else. Then I could hopefully avoid looking like a moron’.
-Coldworld
Looks like it is a cold world out there better grab your coat

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Fubared's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:18 pm

The fly in your ointment is, we lose talent every year to make up for the money we give to three guys: Bak, Rodgers, Jaire.
Hell we have 5 guys who are starters that probably leave so your filling holes every year not adding new exciting talent to your talented team.
The Vikes fill a couple of holes with free agents and top picks, a short re load. the packers have big holes to be filled with rookies. That aint working. Wyatt? Stokes? Walker? Amari? Piss poor picks that couldnt step in and play NFL level football.

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barutanseijin's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:21 pm

The “All World” quarterback chokes time after time in the playoffs & plays like shit this year, but oh noes! it’s the woak meedeeyuh that turns people off.

Such delusion can only be the result of severe cranial-anal impaction.

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Jgilmor08's picture

December 12, 2022 at 09:42 pm

Then explain to me how this works out. Rodgers has played with a top ten defense twice in the playoffs. He won a Super Bowl one of those seasons. But you are right I’m the idiot here Rodgers directly choked when his offense somehow gave up 31,37,44,26,28,45,37 and 51 points. I mean you are absolutely correct what kind of choke artist could possibly think 37.37 points allowed over 8 play off losses wouldn’t achieve success?

What kind of mediocre player doesn’t win superbowls when his team averages giving up 5 touchdowns and a field goal every playoff loss. I’m sure his resounding regret is not subbing in at safety when your more than likely favorite all time player Colin Kapernick ran for 275 yards.

I think you might be right. Boy do I feel so stupid right now. What was it you said ‘severe cranial anal impact ion?’ It might be one of my top five favorite things when a liberal minded idiot isn’t told how to respond, has to compound sentences and thoughts all by themselves. But you should maybe be careful that looks an awful lot like hate speech that promotes violence. I mean actually it’s downright racist and now I feel mentally unsafe because of your misuse of the pro nouns cranial and anal. Where’s the button to report racially intolerant bigots like you that keep turning a nice woke forum such as this into intolerable hate speech. Whhhyyyyyyyyyy. My world is in utter shambles now. Maybe some MSNBC will sooth my soul. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m late for booster #12. The first 11 maybe didn’t help all that much or at all but I’m sure lucky number 12 will be different. Despite President Biden seemingly having what I can only assume is alzheimers, he’s never steered me wrong for at least the last week. Golly you are such a hate speech propagandist you’d definitely think trading the merchant of death for a US soldier would’ve been the right thing to do, leaving the poor lesbian pot smoking athlete in Russia. Shame on you. I’m cancelling you!

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fastmoving's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:14 pm

man, this gilmore coward has never watched a football game. AR was always great when it counts. Like last year and the year before. He had more weapons than any other top then QB and did nothing with it. But hey what can you expect from a chemtrailer who is in a body from a 60 years old and is addicted to some horse dewurmer because he is afraid of masks and vaccines.
No one want a weak loooser like that on our team.
But thanks God they weakest dumbest criminals with orange paint and a wig steals from the 10% most unamerican lowlife. So its all good.
Thanks God everyday that Biden saved America and all its about in more ways than one. He is a Hero and compared to that orange traitor he is way more. Hope all this dumb crimals will be in prison where they belong.
And even you dont have a job and never played any sports, Gilmore, your should watch a game, even you dont get the rules. Man, so values or morals just crying and victimhood....and guns of course, thats all you got.

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fastmoving's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:18 pm

And the only hate guy here, with just flatearth propaganda acting like a crybaby......no wonder the looooooose in everything from football, to elections and good people anyway. Man, education and smart are really the enemy of the deplorables......

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fastmoving's picture

December 15, 2022 at 04:20 pm

and yeah.......Britney Griner is in here little finger 20x better than you. With your 5 foot 3 and 350 founds frame. But I guess your fast like a turtle anyway....
These Fox news sheeple are funny to see but sad to hear......

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Packerpasty's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:42 pm

Hey...dont you know your not allowed to show any support for Rodgers on this site!!! Its for haters only!! Jeez...

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Fubared's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:12 pm

Please people. Some of you need to put yourself out of their misery and come to grips with the fact this is NOT A PLAYOFF CALIBER FOOTBALL TEAM END OF STORY.
There is very little talent on this team. Missing Gary? You need a few good pass rushers not one. Watson lighting it up" You need Tight Ends who can catch, other receivers who can get open.
Pass D has to have guys willing to tackle, fight for the ball, and cover.
We have none of that unless Jairre is playing ok that day.
This team cannot beat the Vikes or the Lions so give it up. Look forward to a draft with high picks.

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jont's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:16 pm

I've always been one of the more optimistic fans, but God as my witness, when I read the first line line of this piece I thought it was a joke. "The Green Bay Packers are truly alive and officially in the hunt for the NFC wild card race" would be a great opening for parody or rueful sarcasm.

It would be a run to remember-- and glorious if it were followed by a win or four-- but does anyone think it even remotely likely?

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barutanseijin's picture

December 12, 2022 at 06:26 pm

This is clickbait for 12 year old homers

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EnemyTerritory's picture

December 12, 2022 at 09:39 pm

Six freaking percent. Four more games potentially of delaying the future overhaul or even evaluating the pieces of said overhaul. And if the miraculous happens and Green Bay takes to the road as the bottom feeder seed why should we expect more than one and done. This is not the 2010 team…. Praying for a quick demise …6.5.4.3.2.1…Love (oops mixed my sport)

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Houndog's picture

December 13, 2022 at 06:01 am

Playoffs?
With this defense, are you kidding me?
Why delay the Joe Barry firing?

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