Gut Reactions: Packers beat Vikings

Aaron's gut reactions from the Week 2 game against the Vikings 

  • 2-0 to start the season? I know it was hard to watch after the first quarter, but a win is a win is a win.
  • Aaron Rodgers looked lethal in the first quarter and mortal through much of the rest. That said, he had two absolutely incredible deep throws that went incomplete, one to Adams and one to MVS.
  • What a rollercoaster of a game.
  • Dean Lowry had a nice game.
  • Lane Taylor did not. 
  • Last week we saw Graham try to block Mack. This week we got to see him try to block Hunter. My god. Enough. 
  • The Smith Brothers were excellent setting the edge on the outside stuff the Vikings like all game long. No surprise that Cook's big run and most of his big gains came between the tackles. 
  • Jaire. Buddy. Just knock the ball down. 
  • This defense can actually play the quarterback boot and I'm almost crying at how beautiful it is. 
  • What a mess on offense. Rodgers taking the playclock down to 0:01 every time and then holding the football forever. It's like McCarthy never left. 
  • Davante was on fire early. Will be interested to hear why LaFleur and Rodgers went away from him. 
  • Gary not playing more than Fackrell is sub-optimal. 
  • Trevor Davis had a day to forget. 
  • It's time for Elgton Jenkins to start. 
  • Loved using Williams and Jones together in the backfield on the opening drive. Wish they'd use it more. 
  • Second down to Davante to pretty much salt it away was beautiful. 
  • As was JK Scott's nine second punt. 
  • Packers are in 1st place. 
  • Go Pack Go. 
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4thand1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:29 pm

WHEW!

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Turophile's picture

September 15, 2019 at 06:25 pm

Agree with almost everything Nagler said, except that as I watched it I thought the variation (of time left on the clock) when the ball was snapped to Rodgers, varied more than it used to. Not perfect, but I saw an improvement.

Also, although Davis never had a great game, I give him full credit for managing to hold on to a punt after being smashed as he fielded it. Sure he should have called fair catch, but props for not dropping it.

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Rak47's picture

September 15, 2019 at 09:46 pm

Agree, AR was snapping the ball at 9 seconds, 8,7,6 pretty much all the way down to one. The snap time was all over the place, although it did indeed roll to one a few times.

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Swisch's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:29 pm

At least we're not the Vikings, or the Bears.
We can start winning pretty next week.

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Rak47's picture

September 15, 2019 at 10:09 pm

I saw an interesting stat that the Queens ran 67 plays from scrimmage and 63 of them totaled 210 yards for 3.75 yards per play. The other 4 plays totaled 211 yards and averaged 53 yards per play. The Packers played very solid on 94% of their defensive snaps but the other 6% nearly took GB down.

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CAG123's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:30 pm

Didn’t think a win could have me feeling this way smh big ups to the def for winning this game after the off did everything humanly possible to give it away. Gotta tighten this up before the Dallas game. 2-0 baby

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edp1959's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:36 pm

Did the offense give up a 75 yard rushing TD? Did the offense give up a 57 yard pass TD? The offense did have some issues after a fast start but the way this game ended was not all on them.

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CAG123's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:41 pm

Wtf did the offense do after the first minute of the second quarter? Have short drives and keep the def on the field is all they did. KK picked the ball off in the end zone and the offense gives it right back 1 minute later and the def still held up. Please the def won this game.

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Samson's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:32 pm

2-0 is all that counts.
Many deficiencies need to be improved on both sides of the ball.

Here's a promised recipe (for OS): --- "Crowle a la Old Stool"... Cook well & chew like there's no tomorrow. -- LOL.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:21 pm

I am grateful they are 2-0. As soon as AR had a lead all of his bad habits came to the surface.

I wish FOX could show more of the field. Not seeing up to 4 recievers becaise they zoom so much makes it hard to know what's happening.

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Oppy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:34 pm

Listening to Bill Michaels and Gary Ellerson post game, Michaels talked about how towards the end of the 1st half there was a third down play where Rodgers looked at a wide open MVS for a short, but chain-moving, read and bypassed the throw, opting instead to look deep (and failed to complete).

Apparently LeFleur trailed Rodgers all the way off the field to the bench, exchanging some relatively heated words with him. They again met up before half and exchanged some more words before hitting the tunnel.

As Ellerson pointed out.. When the offense was clicking in the 1st Q, Rodgers was taking everything the defense was giving him.. Like the way #12 used to do a decade ago... Then there was a devolving into holding the ball and looking for the long shot again.

This is a legitimate issue with Rodgers.. I was happy to see him handing off the ball at least today, That's a huge improvement. But there's still much room for Rodgers to correct his play and run this offense.

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edp1959's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

How do you know it was chain moving? It never happened. Can you see into alternate dimensions? Of course you are going to take an opportunity to hate we all know that.

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Oppy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 09:53 pm

1) Open WR in Progression
2) WR is beyond the first down marker

This is not quantum physics

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:35 pm

"Apparently LeFleur trailed Rodgers all the way off the field to the bench, exchanging some relatively heated words with him."

Better than McDumpy ignoring it.

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JHitTheB's picture

September 16, 2019 at 02:12 am

Oppy

Well maybe he was worried MVS was just going to run backwards again for another 5-6 yard loss? Do you have a link on the play? I'm trying to picture what deep shot you are referring to. I remember the one to Adams that got PI called, and another to Adams that he dropped on the sideline, a nicely placed ball to MVS that he dropped and a wheel to AJ that got broken up. I missed the sideline jawing but I was probably out of the room. Punts are bathroom break time lol. Was it a heated argument or just MLF coaching on what he seen? I've been trying to find a replay of the exchange but there is nothing on youtube about it and I don't have a twitter.

EDIT: I was able to find quotes about it, but can't find a video. I want to see it - kinda disappointed I missed it lol. Sounds like they worked it out though. And I like that MLF went and sat by AR on the bench while the D was on the field. Get over there and discuss strategy and adjustments. That's what NE does. TB isn't on the sidelines just standing around. He's over there with his OC and WRs/TEs looking at defensive formations and game planning in real time.

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Since'61's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:31 pm

2-0, way to go Pack!
Would like to know why the Pack went away from what worked so well in the first quarter.
Another great game for the Packers defense and JK Scott
Turnovers were huge. Defense really had only one bad play on Cook’s long TD run.
Lane Taylor is hurting the team. Try Jenkins.
Offense needs to show up for 4 quarters. Can’t expect defense to hold on for 3 quarters but a win is a win.
Bring on the Broncos. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:35 pm

Jenkins was in his spot second half, '61. Lancaster just getting eaten up @ the nose position.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:40 pm

They seemed to be splitting series.

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Since'61's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:54 pm

Thanks guys. Watching the game and the grand kids at the same time. Missed most of the second half until King’s pick and the final 2 minutes. Pack is 2-0. Grand children way ahead but reinforcements are on the way! Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:35 pm

Jenkins was in his spot second half, '61. Lancaster just getting eaten up @ the nose position.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:44 pm

A lot of anxiety down here in Nashville. Not sure what happened starting the second quarter. Rodgers seemed to give up on new offense and go back to last year’s crap. Could you hear our moans of agony down in Tennessee up in Packerland?? But, 2-0 is better than I predicted at this point. GO PACK GO!!!!

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wildbill's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:52 pm

Zimmerman is one of the outstanding defensive minds in the game and made some adjustments which took away what was working early. Seems like we could have had a couple more interceptions and we had some drops on offense which hurt us. The drops were tough catches but the ball hit both hands and you need to catch those. I thought there was a big momentum change when we didnt kick the field goal which would have gave us 24 points if successful .
A lot of growing pains but didn’t see anyone hanging their heads after the queens two big TD plays, a great sign. A nice win overall!

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Nick Perry's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:54 pm

I was asking myself the same thing Since '61. I really liked the idea of both Williams and Jones in the backfield together...Not seeing it again reminded me of McCarthy.

Those first few drives Rodgers was getting the snap with about 10 seconds give or take about 3 seconds most of the time then back to running down to zero...UGH!!!!

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pack69go's picture

September 15, 2019 at 07:32 pm

What has happened to Taylor, he wasn't this bad 2 years ago!

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Tundraboy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:43 pm

I know. Who is this version.

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JHitTheB's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:34 pm

"Would like to know why the Pack went away from what worked so well in the first quarter."

I would credit that to the Vikes D adjusting and taking away the easy looks. First few drives our guys were actually open. They clamped down and everything was contested the rest of the game. Both Davante and MVS had drops that would have extended drives which could have led to some more points on the board.

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saltandpeppers's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:32 pm

What a heroic performance by the defense.

As for offense, they ran the ball well today, and the passing game still could not get going (after the first Q). So now what's the excuse? And I don't think AR was the problem today. I know I'm not the first, but I'm really starting to worry about the WR depth. Can anyone other than Adams win on-one-one? As crazy as it sounds, they really need to get Shepherd back (for punt returns as well).

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Demon's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:58 pm

I gotta agree with some on here
Im leaning toward the receivers not named Adams are shall we say very average.

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Kubyskins12's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

I disagree a little there is a few plays Rodgers had some open people underneath and he decided to hold the ball. he started to fall back on his old bad habits in the second half. But I will agree that it wasn’t all Rogers there was times where there was no one open or the offense of line didn’t block well or they dropped passes or Fumbled. So there’s a lot to clean up on the offense of side of the ball.

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Nick Perry's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:39 pm

IMO the Packers HAVE to pick a WR in this next draft, If ILB is #1 the WR is #1A. Maybe there's a trade to be had...Maybe it's still because it's early it's taken some time to sort itself out. But not one of the WR not named Adams scares the opposing defenses.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:33 pm

Special Kudos and Honorable Mention to Punter JK Scott 47.6 Avg !!!! Superb job !!!!

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DrMixerGED's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:41 pm

You're damn right, Doug! JK is a beast!

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MikeS's picture

September 16, 2019 at 04:47 pm

Kudos to JK Scott

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EdsLaces's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:36 pm

Kevin King ladies and gentlemen...

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JerseyAl's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:41 pm

Kevin King was not having a good day until that INT.

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EdsLaces's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:15 pm

True but 3 years later he makes an impact play...

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ollie418's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:38 pm

Good win. Loved to see Defense win games for the team. Having said that offense needs some work!

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Tarynfor12's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:37 pm

A win is a win yes...but 21 -0 and then..yikes!
I thought Vikes would win this but Pack still need much more....this crap will not endure.Defense looked good again but a better offensive team gets them.

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4thand1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:41 pm

The D is giving up 9.5 points per game, Thank God.

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Since'61's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:59 pm

Taryn - after all the seasons of watching the defense fold in so many games it feels like we’ve entered a parallel universe where the Packers offense struggles and the defense carries the day.

Hopefully someday soon our offense and defense will both play solidly in the same game. Thanks, Since ‘61

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:05 pm

Did you really think they would score much more then 21 points against a very good D? They defended some very good passes in the 2nd half.

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Turophile's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:23 pm

The best defense in the NFL didn't beat the Packers, so everyone said "Well, the Vikes offense is a much sterner test". They didn't beat the Packers either.

A better offensive team with a worse defense, doesn't stop the Packers offense.

I do expect the Pack to play a more complete game (offensively) as the season progresses, assuming at least reasonable health.

2-0 considering who we played and with both of them being divisional wins, is huge.

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Rick5952's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:24 pm

Totally agree with you. Cousins is pathetic.

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Coldworld's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:29 pm

They were fluent while scripted and a mess when not. Since they practice scripted plays in the lead up, I take this as a clear indication of how far from fluency they are in the wider offense

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murf7777's picture

September 16, 2019 at 12:48 pm

CW, I have to disagree.... after watching the second quarter in slo-mo they had many good O plays unscripted... IE: 30 yard beautiful pass down sideline to Adams and Harrison knocks it out last second. GMO fumbles or we get 3 or 7 points. Last drive, 1st down running. Then on 3 and 1 quick out to GMO (I believe) and MVS doesn't block for him or we get more points in all likelihood. If either of those happens we all are saying what an awesome half. MVS, has to block and that's very fixable or he shouldn't be playing. There was some really good drawn up plays just some lack of execution.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:38 pm

Packers are two average QBs away from 0-2. If the Bears and Vikings each had one, the Packers would be looking up at both teams.

Somehow the Packers dominated TOP by almost 10 minutes, and the defense had something to do with Cousins looking like B.J. Coleman out there. No column for style points in the standings. 2-0 is sweet!

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:42 pm

Vikings made some big plays on their D. Kendricks 1:1 on a perfect pass to Jones. MVS has to come down with the ball. Still would trade for a WR.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:46 pm

They did. That Kendricks play was outstanding. The MVS pass that they knocked away from him. Lots of big plays by their defense.

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Norm's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:55 pm

Despite the TOP domination, the D looked gassed in the fourth quarter. As the announcers noted, a good running game will wear down a D moreso than a good passing offense will. We have the pieces to be a good running team, and today gave a glimpse of that, unlike last week. They'll get better on offense, meanwhile it's great to be 2-0 with effectively a two game lead on the Vikings and at least that on the Bears all while the O is still a work in progress.

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greengold's picture

September 16, 2019 at 08:29 am

32 carries for Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams combined! WHEN,... WHEN was the last time we saw that? FINALLY!

This Packers team needs to run more. Keeps opposing defenses off of Aaron Rodgers, and chews up the clock, bigtime! They ought to keep Dexter Williams active for 3rd and short - he wins those.

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Bure9620's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:38 pm

I think I downed a six pack pack in the 2nd half....
.a very difficult game to watch that resulted in a win.....much to clean up

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mcduff67's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:42 pm

Ditto my beer was also flowing, I was afraid the Vikes would make it a game, lucky win!!

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Rick5952's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:26 pm

What was the brew of choice?

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Houndog's picture

September 16, 2019 at 10:21 am

I quit drinking 13 years ago, but will admit to smoking a few more cigarettes than usual during this game. Maybe I should swap vices, LOL.

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Norm's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:38 pm

A win is a win is a win and is not a loss. Or a tie.

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4thand1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

We need more time. I was thinking good ol ass kicking , ended up biting nails again.

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4thand1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

We need more time. I was thinking good ol ass kicking , ended up biting nails again.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:41 pm

Comes back to the fact that the Vikings are a good football team...and a really good one when Cousins doesn't have his head so far up his rear end.

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Demon's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:41 pm

If Cousins is one of the better QB's the Pack will face this year, the Pack is in for a cake walk. Cousins stinks! Great game by the D and great job by King.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

Cousins was really bad today, yes.

Go look at the stats from his third preseason game. Didn't play in the fourth PS game. Didn't have to do anything last week. I might start to wonder...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

I argued (based on statistics) that Cousins was pretty good, top 10 to top third QB. He reminds more of the good practice player. He has trouble playing the big points/plays.

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Demon's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:27 pm

In baseball they would call cousins a AAAA player. Dominate at AAA but, fails in the majors.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:42 pm

Sloppy sloppy play after 21-0 by the offense. The vision is there. You can see it. The first quarter was sublime. BUT...

It all started, really, when G-Mo inexcusably fumbled that catch for 1st down. That was the ensuing 75 yard run for the Vikings if I remember correctly? Davante drops one after that. MVS drops one. Granted, those aren't gimme plays BUT plays that can be made and need to be made.

The pre-snap penalties on the offense. Sloppy. Adams had one, inexcusably on a false start. Linsley had one in addition to the poor snap. That must be cleaned up if this team wants to get serious about contention.

Billy Turner has not fulfilled his contract after game 2 (I mean it's 2 games, perhaps this comment is silly). We need more there. Absolutely agreed, we need Jenkins out there. We saw him for a series there if I'm not mistaken and he was stout. I believe that was his only series.

All in all, you have to be pleased with the victory. They aren't easy and typically aren't pretty in the North. BUT, the offense has miles to go. They showed some potential today. They were definitely much improved. BUT, they left A LOT of points on the board by shooting themselves in the foot. Build off of quarter 1. Dissect the penalties and the ramifications of poor ball protection.

This is a game where you come away grateful you snagged victory from the arms of giving away Defeat.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:50 pm

"This is a game where you come away grateful you snagged victory from the arms of giving away Defeat."

Another big win, regardless of how it looked.

2-0 with wins in-hand against strong divisional opponents (including one on the road). You're right: it needs to get better, but this is a tremendous start for this team.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:00 pm

Absolutely agreed. Hence: "The vision is there. You can see it." In the words of Bill Murray in 'What About Bob?': "Baby steps."

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:13 pm

Aaron noted Taylor's play, but Turner didn't look like the answer at RG either.

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Demon's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:30 pm

Gotta agree. Turner hasnt even been a good speed bump.

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PatrickGB's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:51 pm

Agree, I heard from fans from his previous teams that he was only an average lineman. I wondered if we overpaid for him but I don’t think we had much choice. I wonder how Campy would have done if had been kept as line coach?

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jhalwas611.com's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:34 pm

Momentum swung on the call to go for it on 4th and 1 instead of taking the field goal attempt.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:05 pm

Great reminder. 24-7 looks a lot better than 21-10 eh?

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MikeS's picture

September 16, 2019 at 04:52 pm

Momentum swung when GMo fumbled the ball and Harrison recovered it for the "Queens".

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MikeS's picture

September 16, 2019 at 04:54 pm

The mistake not kicking the FG on 4th down is all on LeFlour

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Cheesedogg's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

I almost swallowed my cigar a few times but 2-0 against tough division opponents. First quarter was sweet. Running game was awesome. Davante was awesome. Defense did what it had to do.
Still need work but 2-0 is huge!

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imnion's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

Remember when Sterling Sharpe would never be stopped short of a first down. He'd always toughen up and fall forward. Allison and MVS need to work on that.

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Demon's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:15 pm

Unfortunatly Sharpe lowering his head and running over a defender cost him his career.

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Coldworld's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:31 pm

Allison’s determination to do that led to his fumble

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September 15, 2019 at 09:17 pm

Sterling Sharpe was an extraordinarily strong man.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:46 pm

I just have to say the GREEN BAY PACKERS DEFENSE has OUTPLAYED 2 of the TOP 10 DEFENSES in the NFL !!!!

PACKERS 2-0 !!!

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:47 pm

And, one last thing, for all the talk about BJ Goodson and his downfield tackling for the Giants...

Well, we certainly didn't see that in a game much in need of down the backfield tackling. I know it's early for the young man and he's being thrust into a new defense, but for a guy with a main role of run defense it sure looked like most of his action was completed beyond a pile 5 yards beyond the Vikings LOS. That Raven Greene injury is not a good one for this defense.

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greengold's picture

September 16, 2019 at 08:32 am

Goodson wasn't ready. They should not have rushed him in there.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:48 pm

On a different note...

Clark called for another hold on a run play. Just saw Derek Wolfe called for one against Chicago. Am I missing some new rule or emphasis this year?

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:49 pm

I know. AND, let's get real: these calls are absurd. Like what are they trying to prove?

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flackcatcher's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:04 pm

New emphasis on hand play at the pad level. Last year more calls on holding with hands outside the pads on O line players. Saw three O holding calls this game base on hand placement. Direct result of how the Packers O line placed hands in pass blocking. League is trying to get ahead on both sides of the ball early, before they get into heart of season. (That is what I was told by my friend who is a AFC front office guy. He was pretty dubious, and thought the Refs would side back into normal use by the 5-6 game. It's the NFL, who knows?)

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:35 pm

Thanks, Flackcatcher!

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flackcatcher's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:17 pm

Your welcome.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:48 pm

HUGE HUGE WIN !!!!

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flackcatcher's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:53 pm

Well, I guess we can replace both Taylor and Turner in the starting O line after this game huh? Vikings is a top 10 defensive here folks, or you forget that already. Offensive play was light years from last week. MLF offensive concepts are beginning to sink in, still a work in progress. This was a Slam Bang Black and Blue division game. No quarter asked, and none giving. Our defense is special, now can they carried it through the season. We'll see next week. Great win! (Back to work. No [root]beer for me.....-:)

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sam1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:54 pm

Never heard Tramon Williams name once. Did he play today?

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September 15, 2019 at 04:08 pm

He controlled the slot, over ran Beebe on the 3rd down play before the half. Fitzpatrick would look good in the slot.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:20 pm

He cut his guy loose 2x for big yardage on the drive when Diggs TD was reversed.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:01 pm

If I'm a Vikings fan I'm asking one thing:

Is it really beneficial to pick apart ticky-tack contact on scoring plays? That offensive PI call on Dalvin Cook is what I'd call, um, nonsense or, in the very least, borderline? To Dobber's point on the defensive holding calls, WHY does the NFL insist on taking one step forward and two-steps back? Last year with the egregious roughing the passer and illegal contact penalties early in the season was nauseating. Now, early in 2019 we're seeing defensive tackles called for holding (?!?) and reviewing simple scoring plays where they are attempting to discern illegal contact when BOTH players are jostling for position? It just doesn't make much sense and speaks to a rules committee that is grasping at straws.

The game is simple and beautiful when rules are enforced sensibly and effectively. When you open areas of enforcement and interpretation in things like negligible contact, you start blurring the lines. Case and point, later in the game, was the offensive PI call on Jimmy Graham. How is that a push-off when BOTH players collide at the point of a route turning from a go-route to a simple out or curl?

My main point is: I just don't understand how I find myself coming into each new Modern NFL season asking what is allowed and what isn't. Why not simply cure the 'What is a catch?' criteria? Why do we tamper with what didn't need tampering?

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:01 pm

Agree, but Poetic justice for the Matthews roughing the passer over reaction penalty last year.

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September 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

Absolutely. It's karmic in a way. BUT, in my mind, it doesn't give it credence beyond that. In the long-run, it's just a problem. I don't think you can objectively look at that play and say Cook instigated that contact over Savage. There's just no need, in terms of the purity or beauty of the game, to open that up to more analysis by fallible and very human refs.

That being said, I have to say: that was a very fair call on the Thielen catch. It looked like a classic case of the ground NOT causing Thielen to drop the ball after his roll.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:18 pm

Cook ran an illegal pick on two Packers DBs on that play. He wasn't running a route on the first contact, that was simply a block downfield. Not at all sure they called the penalty based on the contact with Savage: by that time he was sort of running a route.

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flackcatcher's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:21 pm

Goodell trying to fix his mistake of last season. Stupid jerk left the Refs at sea trying to interpret non sense PI rules. This is a wipe away of those rules imposed in the middle of the season last year. NFL is all most using the rules NCAA adopted three years ago. Just go ahead and adopt the hands and route rules and be done with it. (like THAT will ever happen.)

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jhalwas611.com's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:29 pm

On Cooks call he picked off 2 defenders directly freeing the receiver.

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Adorabelle's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:09 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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September 15, 2019 at 05:10 pm

I thought it was pretty obvious blocking downfield with the ball in the air.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 06:37 pm

Sees the replies. Thinks: 'Yay, a conversation.' I think you have made an illegal amount of repeat posts. Your post is rescinded and you have to re-type your 'play'.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:36 pm

Now I know why there were 44 replies.omg

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 03:58 pm

Give LaFleur a game ball for challenging the Offense PI in vikings TD! That was gutsy but smart. Never seen so many offensive PI called already this year vs all of last Year. The challenge has changed the game and Matt is on the forefront of change.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:17 pm

That was a booth review inside 2 minutes not LaFleur

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murf7777's picture

September 16, 2019 at 12:49 pm

My bad....your right, that being said he is on the forefront in challenging these types of plays which like it or not it is changing big time.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:03 pm

It was said last week and it applies again.

Ugly, ugly game.

Beautiful, beautiful win.

I guess early in the season that is ok but a lot to be worked on for sure.

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TommyG's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:00 pm

1st quarter: OMG WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL.

Rest of the game: WTF?? Why does the play come in at 15, line up at 10, snap at 00? THROW BALL AARON! OMG! The defense is gassed. Thank gawd for our defense.

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JHitTheB's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:45 pm

I think with the lead, the idea was to let the clock run. At least that's how I would play it. As long you're lined up and ready for the snap I see no problem in taking time off the clock. It gives the opponent less time to work with and gives the defense more time to rest.

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stockholder's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:01 pm

This went as planned. I loved it. Used the bathroom 4 times in the second 1/2. The conditioning of the Vikings was obvious. Their failure was obvious. The refs were obvious. The decisions were to obvious. The score was as expected.

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MikeHoncho's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:01 pm

This defense is legit. With the offensive turnover and all of the 3 and outs in the 2nd half, to hold to 16 pts is incredible. Aside from the long TD run from Cook, the defense was fantastic.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:03 pm

The new CSS is really awful. The icons are huge and take up half a screen. Please put the old site back.

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DrMixerGED's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:39 pm

Are you on mobile or PC? I can see what you mean on the mobile site, but I still like that it feels much fresher.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:54 pm

I can't go to my replies either on mobile. They are all collapsed. How are we expected to have a conversation?

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Hematite's picture

September 16, 2019 at 06:25 am

I agree, I don't like it.
But I'm old and change is difficult.
I don't like that I can't get this site on my Kindle anymore since the change.

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Oppy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 10:04 pm

Well, yet again, a dumbfounding play call on 3rd down at the end of the Half. (Edited: mistakenly had listed as 'end of GAME' previously.)

After 2nd down, MN does the Packers a favor and calls a TO, leaving themselves only one left.

On 3rd & 16 from relatively deep in Packers territory, instead of running the ball and forcing MN to use its final TO, The Packers decide to attempt a pass.

Ultimately, did not make a difference as the Vikes got nothing going.. but none the less.. Run the ball, take some time off the clock, force MN to burn their final, then have JK Scott boot a very high, very long punt.

Scratching my head over here. Other than that, happy to see the Packers actually commit to the RBs today. They threw over the middle occasionally. The Defense gave up a few big plays, but overall, I thought they did well again.

I did not expect a win today. I really didn't know what to expect. .. but I was happy with the results.

Now to see the Packers offense against a more "average" defense.

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ThxJackVainisi's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:32 pm

Regarding not using up the clock at the end, if it were McCarthy I'd say he's not used to having a very good D, but that doesn't apply to LaFleur. I was hoping for a 1-1 start, and of course got greedy after last week, but the Packers need to take advantage of their early home games and they're on their way...

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:38 pm

What play are you talking about? It was never 3 and 16. On the last drive they ran 6 out of 7 plays basically running the clock down to under 15 seconds. During that series on 2nd and 6 LaFleur called a play action slant to Adams for a first down which by the way I called before the play. Vikings were playing run and it was a great call. The series before that they passed 3 times and it was 3 and 10.

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Oppy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 10:03 pm

Sorry, Typo, I meant to say end of HALF not End of GAME. I will edit if possible.

NFL Gamebook:
https://nflcdns.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/57920/GB_Gamebook.pdf

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 16, 2019 at 02:17 am

I don't see an edit button! I don't know but it looks like the format is still being modified.

Edit [and there's some irony there]: okay there is an edit button. But when I comment it kicks me up to the very top of the article and I have to wade through 100+ comments to get back to here. All the replies collapse so I can't tell if there have been new replies without opening/showing each reply segment.

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edp1959's picture

September 16, 2019 at 06:35 am

Wow never heard of a team trying to run out the clock and forcing a team to use all of their timeouts at the end of the first half.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:07 pm

One last thing to my one last thing:

Jaire was in position today to solidify himself as an All-Pro. Instead, we were left saying: for a guy who had a very good game, he left GREAT on the field.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:39 pm

Too true: if he attacks that ball on the bomb to Diggs, this game likely looks a lot different. Instead, he played that ball passively and gave up the TD.

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mrtundra's picture

September 17, 2019 at 08:36 am

Jaire played the ball passively??? He had to run about a mile just to get to make a play on that ball! Jaire did more than his share to stop the play. Diggs was lucky the ball landed in his hands. I have nothing but praise for Jaire's play, so far. Just getting to a position to make a play on the ball, from where he was on the field, was an outstanding effort by Jaire.

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atundraman's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:07 pm

What's not to like?
2-0 and a big head start in the division.
Go Pack Go!

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

Sure we had some bad plays but vikings played very good on D for 3 quarters. We also had many great plays from both sides of the ball. This was a hugh win. Savor the moment:)

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PackersWinning's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:20 pm

Jimmy Graham sucks we want our money back

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:57 pm

Hmmm....did you say that after game 1?

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PackersWinning's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:59 pm

Yep

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PackersWinning's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:59 pm

Yep

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:24 pm

Will always take any kind of victory against the Vikings. However, the Packers backed into a victory. The Packers got the victory but the Vikings have to feel good about their chances at the game in Minny with the way they came back.

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stormin's picture

September 15, 2019 at 07:27 pm

Hey go troll somewhere else , we don't need you here !

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I bleed green more's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:23 pm

Hope Greene is not down and out.

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Trapped in MN BUT GB fan's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:32 pm

Here in Minnesota this loss was all the ref’s fault. Here’s the b&tch here: the refs and the league wanted the Packers to win. When Kurt cousins is mentioned I was told he wouldn’t have had to try so hard if it weren’t for the refs. I agreed and said the fumble and two INTs were the refs fault not that Kurt cousins looked the same as his previous seasons. Silence after that. Someone else put a jar of Vaseline by the TV with a note that said: “For my butt-hurt Viking friends.” Almost all thought it was funny.

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Farts_After_Wins's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:32 pm

*poot*

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Spock's picture

September 15, 2019 at 11:52 pm

F_A_W, So glad you are back in action this year! I always look forward to your, um, contribution to a game winner. As much a favorite for me as the music to "Classical Gas" :)

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DrMixerGED's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:36 pm

What a crazy, stressful game. It truly was hard to watch at times, and they let Cook run wild. BUT, the D really got it done in crunch time. #GoPackGo #2-0.

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PatrickGB's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:03 pm

I don’t think that we “let” Cook get that long run. Commentators said that he was running 20 MPH. Cook is good at that. We saw that in his previous games. Sometimes the other team has a player who gets his yards. Yet we did better after that.

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DrMixerGED's picture

September 15, 2019 at 09:12 pm

I wasn't referring to one play, but Cook's big day in general. He was dominant.

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JHitTheB's picture

September 16, 2019 at 09:09 am

Without that 75 yarder, Cook had 79 yards on 19 carries. That's hardly dominant. He got away for 1 big play. It happens. The D recovered nicely and didn't let him break free again.

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packerbackerjim's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:41 pm

Linsley had a another sub-par performance. That wormburner of a snap almost got Rodgers reinjured.

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dobber's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:41 pm

I still find myself wondering how this game turns out if the Packers kick that FG rather than going for 4th & short in Minnesota territory. The Vikes seemed to rally after that play.

LaF seems a more aggressive play caller than MM.

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Bizarro's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:12 pm

Execution is the name of the game. We failed to execute on numerous key possessions. I'm watching this Chiefs/Oak game. They execute on nearly every possession. Night and day.

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sam1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:16 pm

I was told that it was possible Rodgers thought it was first down, thus the play!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Lefleur wanted to kick field goal. Rodgers screwed up thinking it was a first down vs 4th down and ran on 4th down. That is a huge screw up! Not sure how that happens with microphone in his helmet for sideline communication.

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September 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Lefleur wanted to kick field goal. Rodgers screwed up thinking it was a first down vs 4th down and ran on 4th down. That is a huge screw up! Not sure how that happens with microphone in his helmet for sideline communication.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Lefleur wanted to kick field goal. Rodgers screwed up thinking it was a first down vs 4th down and ran on 4th down. That is a huge screw up! Not sure how that happens with microphone in his helmet for sideline communication.

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September 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Lefleur wanted to kick field goal. Rodgers screwed up thinking it was a first down vs 4th down and ran on 4th down. That is a huge screw up! Not sure how that happens with microphone in his helmet for sideline communication.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Lefleur wanted to kick field goal. Rodgers screwed up thinking it was a first down vs 4th down and ran on 4th down. That is a huge screw up! Not sure how that happens with microphone in his helmet for sideline communication.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:41 pm

Houston. We have a problem.

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JHitTheB's picture

September 15, 2019 at 10:22 pm

Honestly I wanted them to go for it and put the dagger in the Vikes right then and there. Would have been the perfect time for a play action shot when everyone was expecting a run.

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MikeS's picture

September 16, 2019 at 05:15 pm

That was a huge mistake not kicking the FG. Lombardi always said never come away without points when you're in close.

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splitpea1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 04:51 pm

Grateful for the win, but...

Need to find a reliable short passing game badly to move the sticks; let's get the O-line working on some screens and pretty much everything else. Need another receiver to step up besides #17.... What's the point in having Graham in there if he can't get open or block? Use Lewis more.... Amazed the Vikings had only two sacks--it seemed like more. And why on earth did La Fleur pass up a reasonable field goal opportunity? Also a poor challenge on a Thielen reception--no way that was going to be overturned.

Another solid effort by the defense--loving it! Where would we be without the Smiths and our new secondary? Nice performance from Scott again, too.

Cook is a pretty impressive back.The Vikes outthought themselves on their final drive--they should've kept handing the ball to him. I couldn't believe Cousins heaved it into what appeared to be double coverage--thanks, Kirk! And great job King for holding on to it.

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sam1's picture

September 15, 2019 at 06:59 pm

I believe Lewis got injured earlier on in the game. Why not use Tonyan is a head scratcher!

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Tundraboy's picture

September 15, 2019 at 08:40 pm

"let's get the O-line working on some screens and pretty much everything"

Yes please. Lots of work to do.

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Gort's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:00 pm

Nine second punt!!!

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Alberta Packer's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:16 pm

I prefer to focus on what we have vs. what we don't have. First, an emerging elite defense. Secondly, an evolving offence - that performed much better this week. Sacks were down - established a legitimate running game and Davante Adams was superb. Many positives with the only negative being the injury to Greene. Plus 2-0! Let us enjoy this time.

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murf7777's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:54 pm

Amen!!! Some fans seek perfection and that’s not reality.

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Lare's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:24 pm

Great to win. As everyone said, the offense is going to be a work in progress the first few weeks. Hopefully it happens sooner than later because after the first few drives they looked terrible. Also, it's past time to get Lane Taylor out of there.

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pilot67's picture

September 15, 2019 at 05:24 pm

I hAD TO LISTEN TO MOOSE "I HATE THE PACK" CALL TTHE GAME. He is soooooo biased. Aiekman is not as bad.

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