Thank you for pointing that out.

Since the end of the 2022 season, the Packers have improved in a multitude of ways. Our salary cap situation is more manageable, we're not dependent on a 40 year old (injured) QB, we have an extra second round pick in the next draft.....

We will eventually learn not to keep beating ourselves. In the meantime, it's great to see these guys like Ford getting it done for us.

Gary: Amazing recovery, and great production with such limited playing time. A lot of people like myself assumed he was soft-spoken, but one of his teammates stated he was actually loud and a vocal leader. I wonder when he will get extended?

Whelan: I'm glad the holding wasn't overlooked as that has been a source of discussion of the past couple seasons.

Carlson: I thought he'd get a lot more opportunities, but alas, the offense has stalled on too many occasions.

Ford: This is really good news. Maybe this means we'll have to draft only one safety relatively high because we'll surely need to be concentrating on offensive players.

I might throw Savage and Brooks in there for the next tier. And by season's end, we're going to need to see a couple of pleasant overall surprises on the offensive side of the ball to show we've made some progress here.

This says more about what's wrong with the Packers, players wise, than it does good.

A punter, a kicker, and two guys who have already proved themselves as a value to the team. Five of five should be different players, which would tell me that they are growing/improving their particular phases of the game, and themselves. I understand the kicking game is important, but the real growth/surprises needs to be from elsewhere.

Now if we can get the O-Line to perform as was projected.

Thank you for pointing out some of the positive news about the team. At this point, anything even remotely good is welcome news.

Some people are just never happy about anything good. Gray clouds abound.

I've got a 6th surprise. This year's piss poor offensive line. Basic & fundamental blocking is non-existent. Keep blocking like this, run & pass this team won't win another game this year.

A 7th surprise is this team's passive non-aggressive attitude.

The offense takes a good old-fashioned ass kicking and totally accepts it. Non-violent, passive. No respect from teams. Absolutely nothing to fear. Getting a mouth smashing very acceptable. No pride. No fight. Woke. WTF.

Every training camp video I seen was filled with scenes of the players dancing around showing off there dance club routine skills. I always thought to myself how guys like Reggie would have set them straight. I brought this up a couple of months ago and a few guys ridiculed me, they thought I was just old and crotchety. I said this team was going to get punched in the mouth by a tough team that was serious about winning. I guess if your one of those youngsters or news guys that cover the Packers that like to see the Packers goofin around out on the practice field, you now have the kind of team you like so much.

The surprises are very nice. Given these surprises however one would expect the W-L record to be better. But there has been some disappointments for sure. I personally dont expect a whole lot from first year players. Even those in the first round usually dont exceed expectations - except maybe for running backs and the odd receiver. I am really disappointed in the offense and not really on Love - but on Lafleur. Now some of that can be blamed on injuries - but really Love has wheels and a solid head on his shoulders - so having him sit in the pocket and get sacked seems to be the OC/HC fault and not on the Oline. The fact is that other than the Bears game - we have played poorly on offense and not to the teams strength - ie speed and deception. That is in IMO really showing that AR was the reason for Lafleur's success and not some great offensive mind was possessed by our head coach. That is my big surprise and disappointment. With just a little bit more of a creative approach we could have won every game other than against Detroit.

All these Gutekunst guys .. Rudy, De’Vondre Campbell, Nixon, Rasul, Preston. Kickin’ ass.

Stop just blathering.

Thanks, for the 5 positives. Agreed....Looking forward to Gary with the normal amount of snaps. The Offense is the main worry. Hopefully Jones heals up finally and contributes again soon. We need another dynamic RB in the stable and some OL help. Gute, I'm looking at you. ST has done better than I was expecting in the kicking department. GPG

Now the flip side. The offensive line has been quite offensive.