Biggest post-draft winners and losers on the Packers roster
Aaron chats with Packer Report's Daire Carragher about the biggest winners and losers on the Packers roster after the 2024 NFL Draft.
By PackerAaron
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Comments (19)
Coldworld
April 29, 2024 at 01:38 pm
Newman is the most obvious loser along with Mr Magoo. Behind that, are we really going to need the pure special teamers? There is a lot of ST experience coming in and even more young athletes that should profile ideally. Beyond that really depends on how players shake out as the depth is there but who wins out depends on how they adapt to new usages or perform relative to each other.
stockholder
April 29, 2024 at 01:46 pm
Newman isn't a loser.
The paint on the portrait isn't dry yet.
He's a quick fix in a pinch.
He will either be on this club or another.
The word Veteran should be logical to you.
And so should PFFs grades after every game.
Coldworld
April 29, 2024 at 01:57 pm
“He may be with another club” but he’s not a loser.
Sure.
cdoemel
April 30, 2024 at 04:19 pm
The PFF rating system works like this:
100-90 Elite.
89-85 Pro Bowler.
84-70 Starter.
69-60 Backup.
59-0 Replaceable
Royce Newman had a 44.3 grade for 2023.
Leatherhead
April 29, 2024 at 03:58 pm
Coldword, we disagree on special teams, so I'm not going to rehash that. When we only get to suit up 45 , that's like 21 guys on defense. The backup DBs and LBs play on coverage and return units. Our 21 is starting to look like it could include McKinney, Bullard, Alexander, Stokes, Nixon, Valentine, Ballentine, Walker, McDuffie, Cooper, Hopper, Clark, Wyatt, Slaton, Brooks, Wooden, Gary, VanNess, Smith. That's looks like about 18 right there, most of them starters or situational players. Two more safeties and another LB make 21.
IMO, it is Imperative that these guys can play the position, regardless of any special teams prowess (unless they're Devin Hester). Against good QBs, good teams that have scouted you and studied you, will expose them if they can't play the position, often in a big way at the worst possible time. On coverage and return units, you can just make a decision not to let the opponent have a chance for a big play but on defense they'll find him and pick up 35 yards on one play. Just ask Wondale Robinson.
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I'm hoping Newman is beaten out by at least 12 offensive linemen. Right now, it looks to me like our 5 returning starters, our FA pickup (Dillard), and our 3 draft choices makes 9. We carry 9. One guy gets injured on training camp, and Newman is in the mix again.
The one factor that is overriding, IMO, is that we'll save over $3M by cutting him and it'll only create $125K in dead cap. I would be flabbergasted if we pay $3M for this guy to sit on the bench, and if everybody ahead of him is injured and he has to play, we're going to have a crappy season anyway.
Coldworld
April 29, 2024 at 05:42 pm
We disagree on the potential to lose some or all of the pure STers? As I read what you are saying we actually agree that the less specialist only ST types the better?
Leatherhead
April 29, 2024 at 05:58 pm
On that, we agree. We already have 3. If you start adding things like returner and gunners, you get to a point where you're hurting your depth on defense or offense just to keep some guys who can cover a kick or punt.
Of course, I would just employ a strategy of reducing the opportunities to get screwed on special teams. If I recall our previous discussions on this, you're in favor of a different approach.
Coldworld
April 29, 2024 at 06:53 pm
Well, if we are talking about the willingness to return kicks or punts, the kick aspect seems moot at this point based on my understanding of how it will work. Punts are a strategic decision in my mind. That depends on who one has, game situation and position on the field. Sometimes weather too. Yes, I’m not an absolute abstentionist like you. Here though I was really talking about the other units and ST types.
Alberta_Packer
April 29, 2024 at 03:22 pm
On sheer displacement - 11+ new players coming in - so the potential of 11+ current roster players going out. Which would certainly be a loss in employment for them. Likely casualties:
* A. McGough QB - with the drafting of Michael Pratt
* Sean Clifford QB (in 2025 ) - as Pratt looks to have higher upside than Clifford.
* Zayne Anderson S & Tyler Coyle S- displaced by Williams and Oladapo
* Ellis Merriweather RB - by UDFA Jarveon Howard.
* Christian Young LB - replaced with Hopper.
* Matt Orzech Long Snapper - because Peter Bowden is only a short distance away.
* Royce Newman - potentially better and more affordable alternatives in Monk, Jennings and Glover.
Packers0808
April 29, 2024 at 04:16 pm
My bet is 3 QBs with one on PS.
golfpacker1
April 29, 2024 at 06:13 pm
Trade Newman for a 7th round pick or for a player we want.
KKB
April 29, 2024 at 06:44 pm
Trade him for a warm beer. Just end the suffering
Coldworld
April 29, 2024 at 06:55 pm
Do you have a buyer?
Alberta_Packer
April 29, 2024 at 07:19 pm
Maybe Newman + a 7th - for a Day 3 O lineman that the Packers may also have liked in this Draft?
JQ
April 29, 2024 at 10:02 pm
I would be gobsmacked, but pleasantly surprised, if Newman has ANY trade value.
golfpacker1
April 30, 2024 at 08:23 am
Anyone can have trade value, GB just needs one interested team who has a OL shortage. He has started quite a few NFL games. That's worth something to someone. Or maybe Newman is worth that missing LB that some other team doesn't need, especially if their need is OL. Cutting him is the easy thing to do, getting value back would show real skill. Crazier things have happened.
JQ
April 30, 2024 at 04:17 pm
You may be right, see the qualifier, 'but pleasantly surprised' in my post. And Gute has been effective in a similar scenarios. But I'd STILL be gobsmacked if he has ANY trade value.
Kevin King sat out for two years after the Packers released him, and he plays a premium position. Not a single team was willing to trade for him.
cdoemel
April 30, 2024 at 04:22 pm
The PFF rating system works like this:
100-90 Elite.
89-85 Pro Bowler.
84-70 Starter.
69-60 Backup.
59-0 Replaceable
Royce Newman’s score for 2023 was 44.3
KKB
May 07, 2024 at 07:01 pm
59 - 50 Replaceable
Under 50 - DUCK AND COVER