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After Further Review: Packers vs. Bears

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After Further Review: Packers vs. Bears

Ross will provide a few observations every Monday afternoon following a Packers game based on a few viewings of the condensed version of the game on NFL GamePass.  While this might not be the All-22 camera deep dive that might be more "educational", it should provide a conversation point for the rest of the week.

Hundley ultimately was more up than down.  He's not Rodgers, no one is, but ultimately he was pretty darn good.  The numbers don't disagree, either.  Hundley ultimately turned in a 110 passer rating under prsesure, and there isn't anything wrong with a 8.5 YPA, either.  Pocket awareness is still a (mighty) struggle, and there are balls that need to come out quicker and balls that need to come out with more deception (don't stare down receivers on out breaking routes), but he made more plays than he cost the team.  He had two separate throws to Davante Adams that were extrememly high-level.  Packers fans have to pray his hamstring injury isn't serious.  Many may not agree, but there's still a sizable jump between his ability and Callahan's.

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packerbackerjim's picture

Thanks for some great film clips, Ross. The Chicago DB was clearly interfering with Adams who made a one arm grab by necessity. When I see what Calais Campbell is doing, I can only imagine how much wreckage the DL could accomplish consistently. Daniels and Clark totally collapsed the Bears OL in that and several other plays. Maybe the GM, please not TT, will do what’s needed to grab Chubb or Key in the next draft.

dblbogey's picture

I think a couple of pass rushing olb's, another corner and an actual tight end with speed, plus an O lineman are priorities ahead of a DL. Oh, and fire Capers.

packerbackerjim's picture

Maybe a stud DE would eliminate or reduce the need for 2 OLBs and CB. Just a thought. Agree on the OL and TE.

Oppy's picture

We're flipping it to a 4-3 again, then?

packerbackerjim's picture

You still have Perry and Biegel and sometimes CM3.

4zone's picture

We need another DL guy who can collapse the pocket. Would make the OLB's we have so much better. I want to see how Vince B. progresses this year yet. If he can take over Fackrell's spot by the end we should see what he's got. Our ILB's are starting to blend it together and if Ryan can catch back up with Martinez, we will be solid there for a while.

Jones is going to have to make a leap mentally to be the guy in the back end we need. Physically, he has all the tools. King will be our #1 soon, if not already. Randall is doing better as our #3 and probably found his niche at last. How the rest of the secondary plays out is still in question.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Nailed it !!!!!

Community Guy's picture

thanks for the clips.. i watched both the Davante TD and the Jamaal Williams 1st down run about 7 times each. the Packers clearly targeted the Bears' Kyle Fuller during the day, and both Williams and Davante probably took a year off of Fuller's career on Sunday.. almost feel bad for the guy.

Nick Perry earned his money in Chicago.. dude showed up.

i am not ready to give my love to Hundley.. i want to see him beat the blitzing that i am sure the Ravens will send.

Kevin King. i hope his shoulder is good enough. if the Packer coaches nurture him well, King will be very, very solid in this league.. i like king's skill set and his attitude. the dude is really enjoying it when he and the team play well. unfortunately, with the exceptions of Morgan Burnett and Mike Daniels, the Packers have had a nasty history of not maximizing the defensive talent that Ted has been bringing to the team.

House (#31). he gets beat pretty bad about 2 times/game.. it seems that he gives up about a TD/game. otherwise, House is solid.. maybe the best run defending cb on the team. he had a nice sack v. Trubisky too.

4zone's picture

I think more play action and perhaps some naked bootlegs like #4 used to run would help to keep defenses off balance more and give the kid more time for the plays to develop without him staring down his receivers. He should have more receivers open further down field than with all the bubble screens and quick dumps.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Hundley has to stop rolling to the right every single time. He has got to do tge a.rogers spin move and go to the left every once in a while.

Duke Divine's picture

Nice breakdown!

Point Packer's picture

Wasn't a fan of the Kenny Clark draft choice. That was stupid of me. Very stupid. Oh so stupid. I occasionally say stupid things.

Was glad to see Hundley make some passes. Needs to learn how to step up in the pocket and do magical things like #12. Wonder if his slow trot on that scramble was due to hammy? Thought about that after the fact.

Oppy's picture

Kenny Clark is the first lineman truly capable of playing NT in a 3-4 the Packers have had since Ryan Pickett.

That's a bad man right there.

GBPDAN1's picture

I read that Hundley's hammy was tightening up before the slow trot scramble. He was playing with a tight hamstring, so, he should be able to play against Baltimore with the aide of therapy during the week (I hope) ?

Bummer about Jones and Monty. Curious to see how Mays will look with some reps.

Clark needs a beastly nickname.

Baltimore is beatable at Lambeau, but what is somewhat worrisome is they have an experienced QB. He's not playing well this year, but, it may not matter if Flacco goes up against the type of Packers D that was fielded against the Lions!

I hope the win over da Bears motives this team and they play hard moving forward .

4thand1's picture

Clark Kent?

Turophile's picture

Clark Kent.......That's nice !

croatpackfan's picture

You took what I said when Packers drafted him. I told to some doubters that he will be like Clark Kent in his undercover role... C(lark) K(ent) to K(enny) C(lark)...

Doug Niemczynski's picture

And what 21 years old ? Cool

Tundraboy's picture

Clark has been durable. Maybe we should look at more prospects with wrestling backgrounds.

Just proves we have talent to build on. With a new coach and some draft additions, we can turn the D around.

Point Packer's picture

That Jamal Williams run. Good lord that dudes a battering ram.

snowdog's picture

reminds me of a Jim Taylor type of smash mouth run . There was a beast .

jeremyjjbrown's picture

"Many may not agree, but there's still a sizable jump between his ability and Callahan's."

Yeah, Callahan isn't making two of those throws to Adams.

Samson's picture

The only place I want to see Callahan is in a mop up role. -- Callahan doesn't seem like anything more than a training camp/preseason game arm. -- Preseason games are just not a good barometer of future QB success in the NFL.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

But Callahan is a playmaker. . Hundley is not !!!

Samson's picture

Being 5-4 is certainly better than 4-5.-- But, I don't get too excited about beating the Bears (even in Chicago).- Da Bears are a mediocre team with lousy coaching and a rookie QB who looks lost every other play.

The Ravens will be a better gauge of where the Pack are headed the rest of the season. -- Games @Pittsburgh, @Carolina and @Detroit will determine if the Pack can sneak into post season play.

GBPDAN1's picture

The way I see it, the Packers have a chance to beat the Ravens and TB at home and Cleveland on the road with a Hundley lead team, although none of those games are locks.

At Pittsburgh and Carolina look like losses with a Hundley lead team . If all goes well ( huge if) the Packers would be 8-6 with 2 games left. If Rodgers is back by then, the Pack could end up 10-6 and a possible playoff birth ( although neither game would be a gimme with a rusty Rodgers and a bad D).

This Bears win gives me hope, but it's probably just a pipe dream.

sonomaca's picture

They’re going to need that WC tiebreaker vs. Panthers. They have it vs, Seattle but not vs. NO, Detroit or Atlanta.

HankScorpio's picture

Postseason? Are you kidding me? 8-8 is a huge success, given the circumstance. A .500 finish will mean the defense and Hundley both took major steps from where they were vs NO & Det. And that will be a very good thing.

sonomaca's picture

Can’t beat good teams. Can they beat mediocre ones such as Ravens?

stockholder's picture

These were the bears. It's like beating a dead animal.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Agree

RCPackerFan's picture

it might have been the Bears but that's who was on the schedule. Lets not forget that 3 weeks ago they beat the Panthers 17-3. They held the number 3 scoring offense (Saints) to 20 points 2 weeks ago. Their defense has been good. They have only given up more then 30 points 1 time all year, and that was against the Packers with Rodgers.

lebowski's picture

Always enjoy these. Thanks Ross.

RCPackerFan's picture

Ross -
Great job as always. Ben has already shown a lot on Clark on twitter. Clark maybe Thompsons best draft pick since Clay Mathews. He is just tremendous. He makes so many plays for other people. Clark doesn't always get the stats but he is disrupting plays constantly.

That Jamaal Williams run shows exactly why most of us are now excited about Williams now. He really showed up. They could really use a physical RB like Williams. Jones and Montgomery are more make you miss types and adding a physical presence like Williams could give the offense yet another dimension to the offense.

Another player that Ben highlighted on twitter was M. Adams. He had a couple of plays that I never caught watching live. These are a couple of his plays. I am looking forward to seeing him play more and more each week.
https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/930248887369125889
https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/930248275948638208

Ross Uglem's picture

I expect Mont Adams to be a big time player in 2018.

Jonathan Spader's picture

If Adams does turn into a beast in 2018 lets nickname him Mount Adams.

sonomaca's picture

Clark, Daniels, Perry, Clinton-Dix, Martinez, Mathews, Ryan, Burnett, King, Jones. House.

Why isn’t this a top 10 defense?

GBPDAN1's picture

Because Capers is the DC?

Doug Niemczynski's picture

That's what i have been saying..and maybe Biegel turns out? Montavious Adams may pan out. . Demarius Randall when healthy is not that bad..need more pass rush and stop with this zone coverage crap !! DOM CAPERS NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Our defense should NOT suck this bad..

RCPackerFan's picture

Ross, I completely agree.

Actually I think Biegel and Adams to be much better in 2018.

jlc1's picture

Cobb and the Wildcat. I too can't wait for him to throw the ball. Been waiting since he arrived as I don't think he has done it yet.

Tundraboy's picture

Once I think. Would love to see it.

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