Can the Packers Benefit from Early Errors and Adversity?
The Packers have faced some early season adversity, but these challenges could be key ingredients in a championship-winning formula.
By Mark Ballard

As the old saying goes, Super Bowls aren’t won in September. For the 2025 Packers, that’s really good news because they didn’t even win the North in September. Despite through-the-roof expectations following the unexpected Micah Parsons trade, and despite a blistering 2-0 start to the season, the Packers find themselves trailing the 4-1 Lions after a late game collapse in Cleveland and a disappointing tie in Dallas.
Sitting at 2-1-1, many fans are disgruntled and their ire has been swift and unsparing. Some of that frustration is reasonable. Blocked kicks in back-to-back games certainly raises some accountability questions. And to hear LaFleur describe his own clock management at the end of the Dallas game – “It was like watching a slow-motion car crash in front of your face” – you’d think he was watching the game on a couch with the rest of us, and not, you know, on the sidelines with a headset.
Will the Packers’ special teams tighten up? Will the 2-minute drill become more organized and efficient? Those situations will be a weekly test for these coaches, and we’ll soon see if they’re able to make the necessary corrections.
However, it’s not just the coaches. Players have made costly mistakes, too. In Cleveland, another valiant game from the Packers defense began to slip away when Jordan Love threw a brutal interception with just 3:18 remaining in the game. In Dallas, a Love fumble in Packers’ territory right before the half set Dallas up for a quick touchdown – and a 16-13 lead (despite Green Bay scoring the game’s first 13 points). After the fumble, broadcaster Chris Collinsworth noted that the Cowboys had made it clear that they felt Love was “a little loose with the ball” due to his long extension.
Will Love learn from these situations? Let’s hope. Obviously, we haven’t seen the last Jordan Love interception, but his situational awareness – knowing the score of the game, and calculating risk on throws and activity in the pocket – that can be improved through repetition. I’m entirely confident Love will work on all of it.
Another early mistake for this Packers team was hubris. After the Thursday night win against the Commanders, with the entire sports media world gassing them up, some of the Packers began to chug that Kool-Aid. Asked about the team’s hot start, tackle Rasheed Walker said, “I think we can go undefeated, honestly. Pound for pound, I look at these teams, and I don't really see who's better than us, honestly. That's why I can say that so confidently."
We all know how that story ended, and you can bet Walker and many of his teammates learned a valuable lesson in humility, focus, and what it takes to be consistently great in the NFL.
The Packers’ up-and-down start has also contained some adversity in the injury department. The team’s key off-season additions, guard Aaron Banks and cornerback Nate Hobbs, haven’t really gotten going yet, largely due to injury. Banks’ absence was exacerbated by an early injury to Zach Tom and now rookie Anthony Belton is out. The Packers also lost Jayden Reed to a fractured clavicle, which will keep him out for a significant stretch of time. Perhaps most significantly, Packers defensive tackle Devonte Wyatt is week-to-week with a knee injury, and may not be able to go vs Cincinnati. Prior to his injury, Wyatt had been playing tremendous football, which was critical following the departure of Kenny Clark in the Parsons trade.
Certainly, injuries are part of the game and every team deals with them. Next man up and no excuses, but clearly injuries have been a significant part of the early story for this Packers team.
In yesterday’s press conference, Coach Hafley was asked, “How much can you learn about your team in the first quarter of a season, that you don’t learn or don’t know during camp?” Hafley’s response [begins at 4:25] was both real and terrific. Discussing the Dallas game, and how the defense had made errors throughout the second half, Hafley zeroed in on a critical three-down stretch of overtime where Dallas had moved the ball inside the Packers' 10 yard line and were poised to score. Instead, the Packers unit stiffened, and held Dallas to a field goal. Even though the team ended up with a frustrating tie, and wasn’t close to satisfied, you could tell, at least through Hafley’s eyes, that this was a “moment” for this unit. Something they would be able to draw upon in the future.
That’s really how NFL seasons unfold. Almost never do teams cruise through a season to Super Bowl victory. More often than not, it’s a slog. It’s small victories within a game. In fact, the last time the Packers won a Super Bowl, they did so as a 6-seed. That 2010 team had an 8-6 record after week 15, and it took two wins in weeks 16 and 17 to even make the playoffs. It’s not always pretty.
Still, it’s fair to wonder: Who are these 2025 Packers? Are they the team that absolutely dismantled two of the best teams in the NFC? Or are they the team that sputtered in Cleveland, and leaked in Dallas? The correct answer is that, like most teams, the Packers are still finding themselves. But there remains a lot to like in Green Bay, and through some of this early adversity, a young team may be learning what it takes to win.
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Mark Ballard is an obsessive Green Bay Packers fan, born in Buffalo Bills country, but raised right by a Mom from Rice Lake, WI. You can find him on X at @ballark
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Comments (23)
LambeauPlain
October 10, 2025 at 11:48 am
Collingsworth is starting to sound like a "know it all" about everything. His diagnosis that Dallas knew Love was getting too loose with the ball after the fumble was a misdiagnosis. The cause of the fumble was Walker whiffing his block and letting the edge rusher glide past his left to swat at the ball or even worse, nail Love with a hard sack.
When under pressure, most QBs have bad things happen to them.
Mark Ballard
October 10, 2025 at 01:01 pm
I don't think that was a diagnosis/speculation from Collinsworth, but rather, something that came up in their production meetings ahead of the game. He says, "One of the things that the Dallas Cowboys felt like with Jordan Love, he's a little loose with the football..."
You can hear the clip here [starts at 8:30]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqkUVYxEfGU&t=521s
Regardless of Walker's miscue, a defense scheming to swipe at a QB's arm/delivery is absolutely something teams scout on film, and Love could be susceptible to that.
LambeauPlain
October 10, 2025 at 03:19 pm
Love is also susceptible to missed blocks by his LT and that was the cause of that fumble. Make the block and no fumble. Collinsworth was attributing his entire comment on the play to great scouting by Dallas causing the fumble. It didn't.
Bearmeat
October 10, 2025 at 11:53 am
Yep. This is indeed the question. Can they learn from their stupidity? Can the coaches help the team grow over their dumb mistakes? They have enough talent to win it all. But they’ve been insanely stupid.
Rory P Scrotem
October 10, 2025 at 12:15 pm
Honesty is the best Policy!
In all honesty, do we have the best GM, Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator
and/or Special Teams Coordinator?
Who might be a better GM, Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator and/or Special Teams Coordinator?
It's an interesting question and quite frankly, I don't have the answer. I like 3 of the above very much. There is one I'm not sure of and one who I think I'd replace?
When Ron Wolf came in, Lindy Infante was replaced. And, when Ray Rhodes didn't work out, he wasn't allowed to hang on for years...he was summarily let go.
Does Mr. Policy have big decisions to make or are we "totally" on the right path with who we have?
I'm just kind of interested in what others who send in comments think?
Rorious P. Scrotomo
Packerlifer
October 10, 2025 at 02:55 pm
I don't think there's any comparison now with the Infante and Rhodes situations. Their records spoke for themselves.
Since'75
October 10, 2025 at 08:03 pm
Rory....
I think (speculate) Policy is using this season as his way of making a decision on Gute and MLF's future.
It might explain why he didn't offer Gute an extension when he asked for one.
This is Gute's 8th year with the team and they are 1-2 in the playoffs and haven't gotten past the divisional round, post Rodgers.
Gute may realize this and his trade for Parsons and signing of Banks is him going all in.
Not saying i'm right, just my .02
Since'75
October 10, 2025 at 08:34 pm
Thumbs down, if you ever dig down deep, and muster up a thought or opinion, let us know.
Good luck 😲
NFLfan
October 10, 2025 at 12:30 pm
If Policy doesn't replace anyone, that will be a tell.
Rory P Scrotem
October 10, 2025 at 12:47 pm
AGREE!
Are you old enough to remember Ron Wolf coming in & replacing Lindy Infante?
Or, the Ray Rhodes firing?
Since'75
October 10, 2025 at 08:24 pm
I remember Ron Wolf being the architect of turning this franchise around, from the top down.
I have mad respect for him and what he did for our Packer franchise.
*******
LOL...hell, i remember Chester Marcol, John Brockington, MacArthur Lane 😁
In the 80's i remember Randy Wright falling to the ground into the fetal position, simply from watching the bears pass rush approaching him.
I'm not trying to be funny, he would actually do that.
Randy Wright wowed us Packer fans by throwing 31 TD's against only 57 interceptions with a passer rating of 61.7.
This is why older fans appreciate and respect what people like Wolf, White, Woodson, Favre and Rodgers did for our Packer franchise.
Lphill
October 10, 2025 at 12:45 pm
they had 2 weeks to make a change at special teams coach, they did not.
Rory P Scrotem
October 10, 2025 at 12:48 pm
If done, it won't be until after the season...
Snap the ball
October 10, 2025 at 02:33 pm
Windy.com. For winds on Sunday. Good site
Snap the ball
October 10, 2025 at 03:52 pm
Thumbs down
It’s a good site
Packerlifer
October 10, 2025 at 03:01 pm
I agree that September and October football don't determine the next Super Bowl champion but what you do or leave undone when opportunity presents then can help or bite you in December and January.
The concern for me about the last two games is the kind of things that showed up to prevent 4-0 have been recurring in Packers' playoff situations for years.
Snap the ball
October 10, 2025 at 03:35 pm
One thing Ed can change is bacon on the hamburgers nice bacon cheeseburger or just sell bacon strips . That’s a money maker.
That would be the real Rump Shaker..
On to football
It starts with the O line. Period….o line plays good we win.and Qb play…
Love. Jacob’s. Dobbs Wilson Wicks Kraft Golden Heatlh Watson Reed soon. Brooks Musgrave. Lloyd?
Who I’m I missing.
What team has that…
YOU EVER NOTICE THE JUMP IN THERE STEPS ON GOOD TEAMS OFFENSE THEY LOOK EXCITED
Like the last night Giants looked excited …Or the chiefs Etc etc They have that. I know what we are doing on the next play type of deal
We used to have that back in the day with AA Ron…
Excitement in the offense. Looked Organized. Eager. Ready to go.
We don’t have that last two games. Out of sync. What play is next. Etc etc
Football with good offensive they should feel it and know the next play before it’s even called …
We look out of wack sometimes last two weeks
Yes we put up 40 in Dallas. But wasn’t the same.. bad defense playing against..
That comes from leadership. Being in sync. Rhythm. Etc
First game yes. Last 3 nope….
All from o line and leadership. And o line being accountable.
But for 20 million. Million a game. 250000 a quarter which you play half of. 7 and mins. 250 k
Time to make it happen
In 5 years when you’re not in the league. Man I wish I could go play one more. To late. ..
Comes down to. O line for this season.
We need to run 8-12 plays more a game than other team. Which may or may not be more time of possession
Snap the ball
October 10, 2025 at 03:44 pm
If MLf is trying to get even one equal opportunity like a democratic system it doesn’t work..
Sometimes someone gets more. And that’s ok
Next week someone else will get more.
But if Kraft or Doubs wicks golden etc. can beat there guy. Like a rented mule….do that…
Next week we can beat another rented mule.
And can we run off tackle ever …..
James starts. Ryan Grant Jones…etc..
Wilson should be able to run off tackle all day. And brooks and Jacob’s
Two backs. Some wheel routes ?..
I would like to see that this week and beat Owen Burks….
Snap the ball
October 10, 2025 at 03:45 pm
James Starks.
Was excited just thinking about it and the mis spelling above
Turophile
October 11, 2025 at 03:31 am
Mark, you blame Love (and he is not without blame), but although you mention injuries to the O line, you put no blame on them. It is the play of the O line that allowed Cleveland to routinely pressure Love and cause problems. THAT is the root cause of the offensive misfire.
On Special Teams, we have a good kicker and punter, but as for the rest, they are losing us games. Bisaccia might be loved by the players, but he has failed to coach up ST to the required standard. Additionally, you get what you coach and it seems painfully obvious that ST needs more coaching emphasis.
veteranviewer
October 11, 2025 at 06:43 am
BISACCIA?
the_gavia_pass
October 11, 2025 at 09:18 am
1. you had to trade for parsons BECAUSE your GM failed almost all 1st round picks. that means gutey must go in january.
2. do you remember tampa, the championship? when lafleur made a defensive call that ruined our game...MFL must be released, no doubt about that. good coach that loses his mind in cruicial times.
3. watch drake maye, 2nd year and you understand why jordan love must be traded, possibily now in november to get the highest return now.
new gm, nw hc, new qb, new mentality.
clean the house mr policy.
Turophile
October 12, 2025 at 05:57 am
Do I detrect a tongue firmly planted in one's cheek, here ?