The Lass Word: It Won't Take Long
We'll know quickly about this Packers team.
By KenLass

We are now entering the seventh year of the head coaching regime of Matt LaFleur. With six seasons of track record to observe, it is possible to see patterns and draw certain conclusions, although sometimes that can be misleading, since each year has its own set of dynamics and circumstances.
One pattern that seems pretty constant is that Matt LaFleur teams tend to start slowly. In games and in seasons. This is particularly true when the Packers play the top opponents. In 2024, Green Bay played a total of seven games against playoff teams Detroit, Minnesota, Philadelphia and Houston. In the first quarter of those games, the Packers were outscored by a cumulative total of 40 to 6. Not surprising then, Green Bay went 1-6 in those games.
Slow starts against the top teams are nearly impossible to overcome. In week four against the Vikings, the Packers fell behind 28-0. LaFleur’s troops fought back gallantly, and actually got to within two points at 31-29. But the team was unable to recover Daniel Whelan’s onside kick in the closing seconds. Green Bay dominated the second half, but the slow start killed them.
In the playoffs at Philadelphia, Keisean Nixon fumbled the opening kickoff (although I thought the replay showed Nixon clearly re-established possession and was down before the ball was taken away from him). The Eagles immediately scored after the turnover, and went on to build a 10-0 advantage in the first quarter. With the Packers’ offense having to bite and scratch for every yard against a tenacious Eagles defense, the early deficit just couldn’t be overcome.
In this year’s preseason opener at home against the New York Jets, LaFleur sent the starters out to play the first two series. They went three-and-out in the first possession, and ran eight mostly uninspired plays on the second before punting. The entire team was sluggish, and perhaps not expecting a fired up Jets squad playing with intensity. It sure looked as though the Green Bay coaching staff did not have this team ready to play a game.
In recent years LaFleur’s teams have shown a lack of readiness to open a season. Three of the last four seasons the Packers have stumbled out of the gate. In 2021 they began the campaign by suffering a humiliating 38-3 loss to New Orleans in a game that had been moved to Jacksonville, Florida. In 2022 they were thumped by the Vikings in Minneapolis by a count of 23-7. Then last year they travelled to Brazil to raise the curtain on the season against the Eagles, losing 34-29. LaFleur’s recent teams have struggled early in the season, gradually finding momentum at about midyear.
Which brings us to 2025. The Packers open with division rival Detroit at home, and then another Lambeau Field game against the Washington Commanders. Both of those teams will be key players in the NFC playoff picture. How Green Bay fares in those early encounters may tell us everything we need to know about this team's viability as a contender. If the Packers emerge 2-0, look out NFC. That would constitute an official announcement that these Packers are ready to contend for a championship. Brian Gutekunst’s master plan to build a new Super Bowl window may be coming into fruition. Even if the Pack splits the first two, they should be in reasonably good shape. But if they drop both games, they will have dug an early hole for themselves, one that will be difficult to overcome. A loss to the Lions, especially at Lambeau, certainly puts Green Bay at an early disadvantage in the division. The rematch will be a tough challenge in Detroit on Thanksgiving. A defeat to the Commanders immediately sends the team behind Washington in the wild card picture. It was the Commanders who beat out Green Bay for the sixth seed in last year’s playoffs, sending the Packers to a much more difficult match-up in the Wild Card round at Philadelphia, as opposed to a more winnable game at Tampa Bay.
One thing is sure. Green Bay can’t afford sluggish starts in those first two games. LaFleur has to find a way to get his guys ready from the jump. They’ll be playing at home, lots of crowd noise, national TV audiences. Get these guys pumped up. Attack the opponents with everything you’ve got early and put them away.
It’s not hyperbole to imagine the tone for the Packers’ entire season may largely be set in the first quarter of those two games.
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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.
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Comments (54)
stinkycheesehead
August 22, 2025 at 07:34 am
lite the fire under their ass right away!!! GPG!!!
Boneman
August 22, 2025 at 08:04 am
Light the fires and kick the tires Big Daddy!
T7Steve
August 22, 2025 at 07:36 am
" pretty constant is that Matt LaFleur teams tend to start slowly"
If you start out just running the ball and get the offensive line in a flow with Jacobs gaining all the attention, it can't be too bad a start.
Previously they (for some reason, with me included) hadn't decided on their best five. No excuses this season. Drive the field without penalties and they'll control the line of scrimmage.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 08:20 am
LaFleur promised the competition at LT between Morgan and Walker was a real bona fide contest to see who starts. Now reading, with some evidence, Morgan was just being cross trained to play LG, RG, and LT all along.
Butkus complained publicly about the OL depth. Gutey must have enjoyed hearing that. Meanwhile is Gutey wondering when Butkus begins to coach up the depth?
Stenovich now says they plan to "rotate 6 or 7 guys during the regular season". So much for the blah blah blah we start and play the best 5...ensure they are playing as a cohesive unit...communicating well...knowing the their wingman's strength and tendencies. What NFL team does this... shuffling the OL during the season as a strategy?
Slow starts? Probably so, since LaFleur still doesn't know who his best 5 starting OL is entering Lions prep. He promises he will get it fixed
Coldworld
August 22, 2025 at 08:32 am
The problem is that the IOL has not been consistently healthy and it’s pretty clear there’s no contender with Morgan to be the next man up inside, directly at both guard positions and for Rhyan if Jenkins is absent.
There also some questionable strategy here. The best 3 tackles in this team are clearly Tom, Walker and Morgan at this point. Instead of fretting about whether Walker or Morgan is marginally better at this point, they should be worrying about who is behind Tom, where the drop off is significant.
If Tom is out, any line without Morgan and Walker will patently not be our best 5. It’s this kind of foresight failure that causes teams to trip up when it counts. The focus is nonsensical and potentially self defeating. HCs are there to cut through exactly this kind of flawed thinking by their staffs.
Even the longer term strategy seems questionable. Belton has upside and a profile that, if his technique can be refined, renders him a prototypical RT. As a high pick, the intent is obviously that he will eventually start.
Tom is now paid and a fixture for us. Now we have Belton we hope to have a prototypical future RT. If that’s the case, why are we assuming that the future at LT is, in the Packers minds Morgan? Could it not be in fact that Tom will move to the traditional spot for the best protector, Belton become the archetypal RT and force in the run game and Morgan our best G?
Sure, Belton may not work out, but neither may Morgan prove a better LT option than Tom and he may (if you believe he’s a better run blocker than Walker or and next year Tom (which so far is I think unproven even as to Walker) be a better fit on the right as well.
It seems to me that the coaching staff has a lack of short and longer term clarity of vision and thus strategy and focus. That can be fatal in any enterprise.
It’s not just at T, I see signs of similar issues elsewhere on O. I sense it with the dichotomy between the third TE favoring and the actual usage of that role and, I’m afraid, possibly at RB with the attachment to Brooks.
Bearmeat
August 22, 2025 at 09:28 am
Under every rock, you see a coaching problem.
I see 25 fan bases in the NFL maybe a few more who are perpetually angry at their coaching staff and or Personnel staff. It is the nature of fan bases to be myopic.
I could find you more than 20 staffs right now we have achieved far less in the past few years than the one that you constantly bash.
It is put up or shut up time for the coaching staff. Let them do their jobs and they will be fired if they don’t.
Coldworld
August 22, 2025 at 10:32 am
The nature of visible patterns or contradictions is that they are by definition not under a rock.
Refute their existence by all means, but if it’s “put up or shut up time” as you claim, then you are essentially just acknowledging that such issues exist or have done thus far in LaFleur’s tenure.
Fly willfully blind if you will, the end result will be the same only perhaps more traumatic.
Guam
August 22, 2025 at 11:14 am
I concur that the coaching staff may not be doing Morgan any developmental favors being effectively making him the backup for four of the five positions on the O-line. That being said, I disagree about the long term strategy.
I think Gute is well aware of the cap issues in 2026 and that he is unlikely to resign either Walker or Rhyan. I also think Belton has RG written all over him despite his current position as backup RT. He is a powerful man with some limitations in lateral quickness. Much more IOL than T.
I think 2026's starting offensive line is going to be Morgan - Banks - Jenkins - Belton - Tom with Gute spending three draft choices to replenish the depth. Both Morgan and Belton will find their places next year despite some of the injury caused chaos of this year.
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 12:03 pm
I would totally lean on Jacobs and the run game. In the opener, especially, keep the ball in the hands of the people who have proven they can protect it. I'd be prepared to run it 40 times if I could. Unless we help Detroit with penalties and turnovers, they're not going to be able to beat us.
This "Best Five" stuff......Last year, we played our Best Five, until one of them broke (Morgan) and then we played our new Best Five until the playoffs, when another guy broke (Jenkins), and the people we had behind him couldn't play.
We started the season with 6 linemen who could play, and finished with 4. That's not enough.
During the season, we need to be giving real game reps to our #6, #7, #8 guys so that if we get to that point again, we can put in a sub who can play without killing possessions with penalties and/or pressures.
Assuming our #6 and #7 are Morgan and Belton, that's a decent start towards having a good bench. We need another guy to step up. Our #8 guy needs to be a player, not project.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:22 pm
Bring in the extra linemen like Barry o line men back in 2002 when Green was leading the nfl in rushing.
Coldworld
August 22, 2025 at 01:55 pm
Belton is the archetypal fit for that right now.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:23 pm
Kenny won’t let that happen and X man and Jacob’s and Kraft
We will start fast
barutanseijin
August 22, 2025 at 07:42 am
On the other hand, if the Loins and the WTFs regress — as many expect — narrow Packer victories may be less significant than we think. Just imagine winning by grace of Dan Campbell’s boneheaded bravado & a Jayden Daniels sophomore slump and then losing to a tougher than expected Giants team. Ya never know.
TKWorldWide
August 22, 2025 at 08:42 am
‘Tis the way of the NFL. Well done!
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 12:07 pm
Every win is significant. There's no such thing as an ugly baby or a bad win.
pantz_bURp
August 22, 2025 at 07:08 pm
I wish you would have told my parentz that LHead. 😕
P.Burp
Since'61
August 22, 2025 at 07:51 am
The keys will the health of the team and the level of play by the OL. MLF is in his 7th season as an NFL HC. No excuses. Prepare the team, mitigate penalties, turnovers and execute. Plus MLF needs to improve his in game decision making. GPG! Thanks, Since '61
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 12:14 pm
I agree. If our Oline stays healthy and plays to expectations, we're going to be a difficult team to beat.
As regards MLF, he'll have question marks until he wins the trophy. Personally, I think he's one of the top coaches in the league and one of the best HCs we've had since Lombardi. He's not above McCarthy or Holmgren, but he has us at the threshold.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 12:39 pm
LH, you forgot Lindy Infante, who the "fans" voted as the best Packer HC Coach of all time.
NJ-RICK
August 22, 2025 at 08:04 am
To avoid a sluggish start to the season they will need their DEFENSE to step up and create turnovers. Their offense will have trouble putting up points until they get a few games under their belt. They need the DEFENSE to step up. Hopefully they can pick up some additional players to help with their pass rush. GPG
Boneman
August 22, 2025 at 08:09 am
Come out with a wrinkle. Maybe go three wide no huddle offense on the first series. Unleash Savion Williams on a jet sweep. Throw a screen. Keep the Detroit defense off balance early then as the game goes on establish the run and pound them into the dust!
Coldworld
August 22, 2025 at 08:23 am
One can recognize past patterns, but the reason for doing so should be self-improvement. If LaFleur wants to grow and if the team is to succeed, then improving starts to both games and seasons has to be a priority benchmark. Without such things material growth is unlikely. Without growth his time as HC is now probably waning.
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 12:28 pm
The team that has the lead at the end of the first quarter wins 75% of the time. Even if it's just 3-0. In our losses, including the playoffs, the offense either didn't get off the bus or they took too long to get dressed.
Every possession is like gold. Last year, we were a Top 10 offense when it came to turning possessions into points, which was a little better than the Eagles, but we were short of where we could have been, IMO.
Last year, in the game that ended our season, we were missing several guys on offense and we didn't score on very many possessions. And we started the game in a 7-0 hole with some questionable officiating. The rest of the way it was 15-10. 10 points, as you know, doesn't win in the playoffs very often.
Personally, against the Eagles, after the injuries started piling up, I'd have given the ball to Jacobs and told him run until he reached the end zone. That would have minimized the impact of the missing players.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 08:37 am
I sure hope this isn't a continuation of last season ending in a funk, backing into the playoffs. Packers closed out losing their last 3 games as we know...but being out prepared and out played was so disappointing.
The Defense seems sharp, seemingly rounding into form to go lion hunting. The Offense still seems disjointed and not very disciplined with penalties and drops. The STs seem ok with the kicking game...still don't know who the returners are going to be on kicks and punts.
May the next 17 days be incredibly productive for the Packers! Beat the Lions and build the "can do" confidence!
Doug_In_Sandpoint
August 22, 2025 at 08:58 am
I think that first game is key. Come out prepared, disciplined, and mistake free against the Lions and it should bleed over into Thursday night’s game. I get to travel back for both games. I will do my best to bring them in at 2-0. Hoping for some game-day meet-ups with my CHTV peeps.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 09:04 am
First game. 46 to 24 Packers. 2nd game. 31 to 20 Packers
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:14 pm
Thumbs down to that. Must be a lions fan
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 11:24 pm
You want us to lose
One more time
Packers 46. Lions 24
Packers 31. Commanders 20
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 11:28 pm
I might even give myself a thumbs down
Just to match yours double negative
I must be right
Bearmeat
August 22, 2025 at 09:27 am
This is the season where they need to put it all together. I expect them to do so starting with week one and win over the Detroit Lions.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 10:46 am
Oh, I want to beat the lions so bad. They are right below the Ugly Purple on my "Must Obliterate Meter".
I feel good about the Defense vs the lions Offense. On the other side of the ball, many concerns with the unsettled O line, the injuries, and undisciplined play (penalties, drops, assignments).
However a huge highlight on Offense has been the revival of Musgrave. If Reed, Wicks, and S. Williams are out vs Detroit, expect a lot of 12 personnel to power the run game and some creative pass routes and a heavy dose of the Illusion of Complexity offense. Something I have been waiting for with these two young TEs and the potent run game. Hit the lions in the mouth early, often, and set the tone.
TarynsEyes
August 22, 2025 at 01:25 pm
"This is the season where they need to put it all together".
Wouldn't it be great if we can say, this IS the season they put it all together.
NFLfan
August 22, 2025 at 09:50 am
The Packers were successful against mediocre teams last year. The Lions, though they have lost pivotal coaches, still have a warrior mentality.
MLF has not made one foundational decision to fix long-standing problems. I have not seen MLF show signs of substantively improving his own weaknesses in game management by hiring a sharp offensive mind. I have not seen improvement in discipline (coaching), I have not seen anything of substance that tells me he will be better. I have also been vocal about what I consider to be mediocre offensive positional coaches such as Butkus and Mahaffey as well as the improperly-promoted, unqualified 'OC', Stenavich.
A HC needs to surround himself with a stellar supporting cast-MLF goes for familiarity/comfort.
These kinds of individuals reinforce each other.
TarynsEyes
August 22, 2025 at 10:22 am
I commented on this week's ago, that the OL has an issue with who owns what position on it, and the answer was a near total of none. Now, it's a rotation based starting lineup which means the issue is still in force. I also mentioned that this team will have too many players selected as (ahem) starters by default and not merit. The seed has been planted, and even if they signify certain players as the starters, we now know that it's a group of at best, questionable ability. Decisive play is hindered by the concept of rotation, not due to injury, but ability, which undermines the cohesiveness needed for position groups to succeed.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 11:16 am
It seems LaFleur believes he has recruited, hired and promoted the best OC and OL coaches available. Apparently LaFleur's boss believes the same. And that boss would be....? Policy, I guess? Or is it the Football Committee? Who is coaching LaFleur?
Have to have hope the three coaches know what they are doing with all the OL tinkering, moving guys around this late in camp. The Packers covet versatility and I understand the value. But the player has to have the ability to be versatile.
Jenkins showed this ability early. Tom did too. But do both Rhyan and Morgan have it? Or were they forced to become versatile? The assumption is Morgan can be just as good a G as a LT. Is he? Same for Rhyan...as good a C as a G? Is this the strategic sense of security urging Stenovich to "rotate 6 or 7 guys during the season"? He better be correct.
Zapato
August 22, 2025 at 10:23 am
I'm keeping my expectations low for the first two games. I don't want to have to go to bed pissed off again this year.
Let's hope Lafleur leaves the challenge flag at home. He's the worst at knowing when to challenge a call on the field.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:19 pm
You won’t go to bed pissed you will be so happy 2-0 you might take Friday off
HarryHodag
August 22, 2025 at 11:30 am
There's another reason for an expected slow start. The starting offensive line has not played together much, if at all. If you think they can instantly develop timing, etc. then I have some land in Florida to buy. Jordan Love has been hurt recently. Don't look for the offense to be sharp out of the blocks.
Defensively the secondary has been upended by injuries to Hobbs and McKinney. This all works for players looking to impress, but the reality is neither side of the ball has had extended time together.
If past practice is how you can predict the future look for another slow start and a slow start this year could be a disaster.
Look for more injuries coming out of the Seattle game Saturday. Seems like the pattern in the first two games.
I know the die-hard fans will blister me for this but it needs to be said: don't look for great things this year. The division is too strong, the schedule is brutal and there's a long stretch after the early bye week that might spell bad times if more injuries arise.
If I'm wrong they will end the season 11-6. But they could just as easily end up 6-11.
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 12:38 pm
We're going to be good enough to make the playoffs, and that's the point of the regular season. 11-6, whatever. What kind of shape we're in at that point, nobody can predict or control.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:25 pm
We’ll be 14 wins
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 11:26 pm
Ok I wanted to say 15
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 01:05 pm
I would be very surprised if the Packers finished 6-11. Shocked, really. It would mean a raft of injuries and/or LaFleur had lost the team. If the latter happens (hope not!) while Hafley's men still put up a solid D, you think the Packers will let Jeff get away?
If they can get the best 5 on the OL, playing consistently together in practices and games, staying healthy, this will be an exciting season.
I completely agree with Coldworld that if the starting OL of Tom, Rhyan, Jenks, Banks and the best LT between Morgan/Walker...the silver medal winner needs to be taking practice snaps at both T spots.
Based on what I have seen of Morgan so far...his skills are best suited to what he has played for most of his life: LT. Really smooth footwork and strength is good. He can really steer the rusher away from the path to the QB. Walker can too but more due to his impressive strength vs quick feet. Morgan is better in the run game due to his quickness.
Both are good players. One will be a Packer next year.
splitpea1
August 22, 2025 at 11:32 am
Has it really been that bad? I don't think so, with the one glaring exception of the Saints a few years back where we clearly weren't ready to play. Take a look at the first few games of each MLF season, though, and we've usually had a winning record. Last season we lost the opener, but it was on a neutral field to the eventual SB champion.
If I were the opponents' defense, I would still make Love prove he can beat you. So MLF needs to have a plan to get Love on track immediately and loosen things up for the running game. Some people expect a dropoff for the Lions due to the loss of their coordinators, but that could be exaggerated; defense was an in-house promotion and offense is largely the same players. Washington can be had at home as long as Daniels is kept in check--so here is a test for Gary and LVN that needs to be passed with flying colors. Cooper, too.
ricky
August 22, 2025 at 11:38 am
The beginning of the season is just an extension of the exhibition (pre-season) games. Players are still rounding into shape. They haven't gotten a lot of padded reps due to the rules limiting contact during training camps. The QB and WR's are still getting used to each other (with some exceptions), and the WR's seem to still have too many "Oops!" drops.
There are also injuries. Always a problem. Add in that the team just doesn't seem to respond well to LaFleur as a motivator. There was a lot of laughter about Campbell and his "knee biters". But those Lions teams come prepared to take your head off and spit down your neck in every game. They are a physical team and have no fear or respect for "finesse teams" like the Packers.
IT may not be time to replace LaFleur just yet, but it is a subject that should be discussed, as he seems to be out coached all too often, especially in big games. Usually you know what kind of player you have after three years. After seven, it would seem a HC has reached his peak. And if this is the best we can expect- to slip into the playoffs and then wilt under the pressure, it would be time to the GM to make a tough decision.
GregC
August 22, 2025 at 11:49 am
The Packers have had a few opening-week stinkers in the LaFleur era, but I don't think they are slow starters during the early weeks of the season overall.
Last year they were definitely slow starters in games against the best opponents. There may have been something wrong with how they were preparing. It's something that needs to be improved this year.
Two huge games to start the season, I love it!
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 11:52 am
So, it appears that few People here believe the Packers have players that are good enough, Or a coach that is good enough or a QB that is good enough or an assistant coach that isn’t good enough, or something. We simply are not good enough. Yes, we’ll beat mediocre teams,, we’ll flash, but ultimately we won’t be good enough.
I think this team is good enough to win the Super Bowl this year, and I think will come out and beat Detroit convincingly. The nattering nabobs of negativity are going to have a long season.
Bitternotsour
August 22, 2025 at 01:19 pm
get in the playoffs, hopefully with full health. anything is then possible. the defense is good enough for the superbowl. the question will continue to revolve around MLF's offense in the playoffs. it's prove it time.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2025 at 01:26 pm
You've heard of the term "continuous improvement"? It is not a wish or result of osmosis. It has to be concrete, intentional plan of action and measured results, for good or ill. Evaluate and correct as needed.
Most of the concerns for the Packers are heavily directed toward the Offense. Used to be the D but then LaFleur hired Hafley who delivered continuous improvement last season after Barry spent 3 seasons in status quo.
I am hoping Hafley becomes LaFleur's Schumer...because Fritz made Holmgrens' Packers so much better with continuous improvement to the #1 D in the NFL and 2 SBs.
The Offense, with a settled best 5 consistently on the OL and WR injuries healed, can be very potent. Lots of questions as TC ends.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:17 pm
Our defense from going from a 3-4 to 4-3 did a great job keeping us in games..2nd year in the system will be better.
The offense needs to start fast.
Lions games at home. Love pick.
Actually the playoff game they did to. Unfortunately the bs call on Nixon set the tone.
Offensive needs to start fast. Defense will hold down the fort. Need to go 8-0 at home. And 2-0 in the playoff at home
Bitternotsour
August 22, 2025 at 01:22 pm
an illegal hit to the head, a recovery with the ball already dead. wasn't our day.
Snap the ball
August 22, 2025 at 01:26 pm
Plus it was in Philly. Refs are not changing the call
Leatherhead
August 22, 2025 at 01:45 pm
That's how I see that game, too. We're on the road against a top team. The opening kickoff and officiating was pretty shaky, IMO. So we're behind 0-7. Then, we play most of the game minus our Top 3 WRs and our bests OL. We stumble to 10 points in a game that was probably closer than the 22-10 final score.
That's the margin in the playoffs. It's one or two plays.
Qoojo
August 22, 2025 at 03:12 pm
I felt the slow starts were due to lack true game practice. With AR, it took 2 games to get the offensive rhythm back. Then defense didn't seem ready to tackle. I felt like last year that the first game was not that bad.
But yea, it takes 2 games for MLF teams to get back into it. Timing isn't there, too many mistakes, etc... But they always flash moments of what could happen if they get it together.
Strat
August 26, 2025 at 09:15 am
They wouldn't have beaten Tampa Bay either, or the Rams which was another possibility in last year's playoffs. Again, I see "The defense has to carry the offense for a few games.". If they have the same, almost non-existent pass rush they had last year, they'll be 0-2 to start the season. I'm not exactly convinced the CB situation is a good one... here's hoping. Maybe Goff has one of his unexplainable "What happened" games to open the season.