Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - The Flying Fickle Finger of Fate Award
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl

Karl Brooks is 6'3" with a wingspan of 77 3/4", 31 1/2" arms and 9 1/8" hands. None of these measurements are what would be considered outstanding for a defensive lineman, but on Sunday they were good enough. Brooks gets the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate Award for that extra 1/8" on his middle finger! Oh, and for you youngins who have no idea what I'm talking about...
ok. back to more serious topics...
The good news:
Only one dropped pass and three penalties (and two of those were absolutely not penalties). So it seems corrections were made during the bye, we just have to see if they last.
Jordan Love looked more like his old self. If anyone underestimated the effect his injuries had on his play, you saw the difference with a healthy Jordan Love on Sunday. Yes, he threw an interception, but it was a simple overthrow and some lucky positioning by a Bears defender to haul it in. It happens to every quarterback. The key is he didn't force things under pressure and make dumb mistakes. With nothing there, he threw it away a few times or if the opportunity was there, he was able to use his healthier legs to extend plays. This is good news for Love and the Packers.
Christain Watson showed why he needs to be the focal point of the passing game. Not only is he their most dynamic wide receiver, he has proven to be the most reliable in catching the ball. He does what you want a receiver to do - attacks the ball with his hands. I'm glad my cries of "Free Christian Watson" were heard by the coaching staff! Yes, I'm sure of it.
Stokes sent to the bench. Sorry Eric, but this is another thing I've been calling for. Since training camp, I've been saying I'd rather have Valentine out there. It's not going to be perfect, but at least it will be competitive. Stokes looked like he lost all his competitive spirit when he was out there. He started to remind me of Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix the way he played everything safe, didn't contest passes and looked to avoid getting actively involved in tackling.
The bad news:
The Bears new OC did a fantastic job in drawing up a blueprint on how to best attack the Packers. Run the ball and keep the passes short and quick. This limits the Packers most effective weapon - turnovers and keeps you in short down and distance, runs the clock, and limits the offensive possessions. Now, they likely took this approach mostly to simplify things for Caleb Williams, but it worked like a charm. In doing so, they may have shown the rest of the league the best offensive approach when playing Green Bay.
Hafley was uncharacteristically slow to adjust to Caleb Williams making big plays with his legs. I kind of feel like both the coaches and players came in a little overconfident that they would be racking up the sacks on this team and kind of got a bit undisciplined in their approach. Certainly, with the success they had shutting down Anthony Richardson and Kyler Murray it should have been easy to adjust their pass rush approach, but it didn't really happen until the second half of the game.
Red zone failures. Odd play-calls and not scoring after having a 2nd and 1 at the five yard line and not capitalizing on the explosive play to Christian Watson handed the Bears an opportunity to win. And they came within an eighth of an inch of doing so.
Poor tackling has returned to Green Bay. This looked like the Packers defense under Joe Barry with bad angles taken and missed tackles galore.
Quay Walker continues to disappoint in key moments. His weak attempt at stopping the Bears running back at the goal line resulted in a touchdown that an actual hard hit from a linebacker could have prevented. He's an average player at best, and I hate to say this, but he's soft. He hasn't laid a bone-crunching hit on anyone and doesn't show any positive energy on the field. I don't think there's any hope of improvement either.
Xavier McKinney had a bad game. It happens.
The 49ers will be fighting to save their season. Green Bay better be ready for it.
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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of various hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He's a lifetime Packers fan living in the land of the Giants (and Jets). Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP.
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Comments (96)
Cheezehead72
November 20, 2024 at 06:20 am
Al you brought out very good points. MLF needs to bring you in for consultation instead of his buddy.
Last week I predicted McKinney would have an interception and that did not happen. I predicted the Packers would cover but that did not happen. I have not been keeping track but I believe I am around 50% maybe slightly above on the season. Sorry to say I see the Niners winning and covering this week. I could get another one wrong.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:32 am
A lot depends on how healthy the 49ers are. They could be missing critical pieces, or see them at less than full fitness. They haven’t been the same team without them. I’m not sure which 49ers will turn up this weekend.
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 11:06 am
They'll probably get Kittle back, which is a key piece, but Purdy has a bad shoulder and it's apparently a problem.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 04:00 pm
Yes, that was in my mind writing it, but I think that the approach to transparency there mirrors that of LaFleur, so we may not know until the game starts who is really going to be on the field and how effectively.
Bearmeat
November 20, 2024 at 06:49 am
I’m at the point with this team where I have stopped expecting them to turn it on and blow people out. There are too many mistakes. No answers from the front 4. Quay just sucks.
I do not expect to win next week, if I’m being honest.
greengold
November 20, 2024 at 09:08 am
same
Packerpasty
November 20, 2024 at 05:10 pm
Nah, no blowouts, theyre not the Lions..
MitchAnthony
November 20, 2024 at 10:45 pm
Find any other player in that defensive unit playing 100% of the snaps and give them the "green dot". Maybe that would be McKinnney. Take that responsibility away from Walker and take plenty of snaps away from him as well. Start putting him in a platoon rotation and find those positions and situations where he might do better. He's had nearly three years to figure this stuff out with a variety of coaches and it ain't happening. He's Wrong Way Quay on so many plays.
For the Packers scouts and draft room. Start actually reading some of the scouting reports. Surprising how many of them are actually accurate.
GregC
November 20, 2024 at 06:57 am
Always disappointing to read a laundry list of complaints after a big win, but that's the world we live in.
I think the Bears game plan worked because Caleb Williams is really talented. It was a good use of his skills. And in spite of the Bears running the plan nearly to perfection, they only scored 19 points and lost the game. The Packers absorbed their best shot and still managed to squeak out a win.
I don't think the Bears have found a template for beating the Packers. This defense has done a good job of containing mobile QBs, so I think this game was an exception. I am hopeful that the Bears will give the Vikings defense a run for its money on Sunday.
murf7777
November 20, 2024 at 08:30 am
I wonder whether Caleb Williams will be able to process defenses fast and long enough to make downfield passes vs a game where dink and dunk while running as well worked for him. Not all games will go this way for him as teams adjust. I’m not sold at this point, especially since he is playing for da bears where QB’s go to die.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 09:09 am
I'm with you Greg.
Basically if we don't win by 30 people are going to complain.
"I don't think the Bears have found a template for beating the Packers. This defense has done a good job of containing mobile QBs, so I think this game was an exception."
I agree. I think that they caught our defense off guard. I think the next time we see them we will have a much better plan.
MitchAnthony
November 20, 2024 at 10:38 pm
What the Packers did well in those other games with the mobile QBs was they forced them right to the sidelines without always trying for the hit/tackle. Simply forcing them out at or behind the LOS. It appeared in the Chicago game that they went away from that and Williams was sometimes too quick and shifty if the defender took the wrong angle the containment was gone.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 10:08 am
They found one on Sunday, then screwed it up on a normally gimmie ST play. Their new OC pushed us darn close with another bad offense last year.
T7Steve
November 20, 2024 at 06:59 am
"Hafley was uncharacteristically slow to adjust to Caleb Williams making big plays with his legs." Look out for Brock!
I'm hoping they'll play these guys like they did AZ. or the Texans. Need to finally show the 9ers how unpleasant it is to play at Lambo.
I pray for the health of our starting O-line. They've been doing great and are starting to really jell together. With the 2024 #1 pick and 1st backup or rotation player on IR I sure don't want them to have to test the depth with the teams coming up in the stretch run.
stockholder
November 20, 2024 at 07:06 am
Al, I think you and others are to hard on Walker.
He was removed in game 7 with a concussion.
More LBs are having to use their arms to tackle.
Because RBs know when to spin.
And as much as you don't see him use his shoulder.
How many go out with shoulder injuries.
We've seen others in this last game, take poor angels.
Xavier had a bad game too.
And look at all the bitching about the Trench.
Walker is in on most tackling ,per stats.
And I feel he is too respected among his teammates.
To bench. I prefer we carry on with him.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 10:18 am
Do you not agree that our LB play has been consistently better when Walker has been out?
I’m as surprised as anyone at how well Wilson has played, but he keeps doing it. As significantly, I perceive the other LB(s) being better when he’s in as well. If that is true, then I believe Walker needs to be replaced as the default Mike this far in to the season and his career.
If you disagree that Wilson has outplayed him, or that if he has, why that doesn’t demand a change at this point, could you explain why?
stockholder
November 20, 2024 at 11:42 am
I pointed to the concussion.
The Trench is "not playing" up to
their capabilities.
And Wilson has been bad too.
Regardless. -
I pointed to the stats. Age.
Athleticism. Respect.
IMO we are a better defense with walker.
If you have 4th and short.
I suggest replacing all the LBs.
Because none of them can stop shit.
Big men up front. The DE/OLB in!
(Gary, Cox, Eng, VanEss) @LB
Bring All safeties in
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 11:52 am
Wilson has been bad too??
I don't think they upped your meds, looks like they gave you completely new ones and your still adjusting.
lou
November 20, 2024 at 06:32 pm
Walker is Darnell Savage II or Amari Rodgers II, take you pick, look what it took to bench one and to waive the other, until then they never left the field.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 12:00 pm
It's really tough to understand how the coaches can watch film of Walker week after week and continue to play him a majority of snaps. He's soft and that isn't going to change.
stockholder
November 20, 2024 at 12:19 pm
I'm agreeing with the coaches.
Are they on meds too.
jannesbjornson
November 20, 2024 at 10:36 am
The guy was way over-drafted from day one. He's a chase guy from round three, not even a blitz/crash guy.
If you want to WIN, you put the Players who perform best on the field. Looking at Stokes creep along last season was the red light blinking for another guy to be brought onboard with a high pick to cover the perimeter opposite Alexander. He's another guy putting time on the Infirmary log. Half of your "premium"
cornerbacks position in manned by backups. Nixon in the slot for big cash, why draft Bullard? Calen Bullock
is playing the Pro Game like a veteran, four picks to date.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 11:57 am
Bullock was the mid round safety I really wanted. Kinchens just had a big game as well, was PFF's highest rated defender this week.
stockholder
November 20, 2024 at 12:24 pm
I had st Jean
Nubin as Top safety
King Sua as my OL.
jannesbjornson
November 20, 2024 at 01:35 pm
I pushed for Kinchens and later rd. four on Mustapha. Evan Williams, I have no complaints, he was a force for Fresno State before the hired-gun year with Oregon.
GB@Germany
November 20, 2024 at 07:11 am
Sign up to all your points.
This game was a real nailbiter and my mood after the run play call on the 2pt conversion was really down.
Getting worse wih the 3 and 19 resurrection of Berry Defense, to a completely unexpected happy end (best surprise turning point since Matrix).
Watson was fantastic, Jordan seems to get there and also Gary showed signs of live.
A lot to work on, but there is hope...
Packers0808
November 20, 2024 at 07:13 am
Walker at this point is a bust, trailer rather hauler. Van Ness I think needs to be benched and be rotational, he is also at this time a bust. Give someone else a chance like Amos.
stockholder
November 20, 2024 at 07:27 am
I wouldn't. You won't make the play-offs.
We've seen LBS fail.
Remember Summers and others.
They couldn't keep up with the play -action.
Put your best on the field.
Gute is wrong when he thinks,
this is the time to experiment.
You'll only get a flash in the pan.
Oppy
November 20, 2024 at 09:03 am
Gutekunst doesn't have anything to do with who gets benched and who plays ball.
He acquires the talent, it's up to the coaches to use the players as they see fit.
You seem to have some base-level isunderstandings about how the Packers are structured.
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 09:04 am
Next you'll tell him there's no Santa Claus...and the Easter Bunny?
Boom.
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 11:08 am
"Give someone else a chance like Amos."
I do like his cookies.
Packers0808
November 20, 2024 at 02:33 pm
oops meant Mosley
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 02:37 pm
I haven't tried his cookies...
...but I try to keep an open mind.
Packers0808
November 20, 2024 at 03:02 pm
He lives with mosby and likes chocolate chip soft batch cookies.
HawkPacker
November 20, 2024 at 07:38 am
I agree with you Al on Christian Watson.
I have not seen any comments this year on Watson's hammy issues. I think UW did a fantastic job in analyzing what caused the hamstring issue and getting it corrected.
I am hopeful that this issue is behind him, no pun intended, and also hopeful my commenting on this will not jinx him.
marpag1
November 20, 2024 at 08:09 am
In other news, I see that the Jets have fired their general manager. This after they already fired their head coach. And posted a 3-8 record, with more losses to come.
Remember when that one dude said that Gutey was stupid for trading away Aaron Rodgers for a second round pick? What was that dude's name again? "Holdstocker" or something?
LOL. Ah, good times...
HarryHodag
November 20, 2024 at 08:51 am
His Darkness has weaved his magic in New York, just like in Green Bay. I'm sure he'll call Jerry Jones to have Mike McCarthy fired in Dallas to complete his trifecta.
barutanseijin
November 20, 2024 at 03:15 pm
He already had MM fired, in 2018. His first HC was good ol’ Shermie, who got fired right after Rodgers’ first season. His only chance at collecting another head is to hook up with another star struck meddling dope of an owner like the drunk from Indiana or Tepper.
Guam
November 20, 2024 at 08:11 am
Just did a quick year-to-year comparison of the Packers defensive rankings from 2023 to 2024 year-to-date (10 games).
2023 2024
Points/game #10 #10
Total yards/game #17 #12
Rush yards/game #28 #14
Pass yards/game #9 #13
No significant improvement in the most important category - points per game but a much more balanced defense in run versus pass. Not sure why the big change in run defense other than scheme as the personnel really didn't change. Pass defense is worse despite better safeties.
Edit: Sorry about the spacing on the graph. It compresses when posted. First column is 2023 rankings and second column is 2024.
T7Steve
November 20, 2024 at 08:23 am
Maybe they're still giving up less rush yards per game, but other the other teams ahead of them are playing with bigger leads so teams have to pass? Also, they might have to run more because they aren't doing as well passing against the Packers?
Guam
November 20, 2024 at 08:57 am
Sorry T7Steve - I pulled the wrong data initially and corrected it, but the correction makes your comment look off.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:37 am
Having Jenkins may or may not be “better” than Jones, but it does greatly help time of possession due to the difference in how they succeed. Jacobs ability to get yards after contact has played a huge role in keeping drives moving, at least into the red zone. Then we miss Jones.
T7Steve
November 20, 2024 at 12:42 pm
Thanks, Guam. Don't worry, my comments are usually off anyway, so no one will notice.
Guam
November 20, 2024 at 05:04 pm
LOL, good one!
Leatherhead
November 20, 2024 at 09:12 am
We're doing a better job of stopping the run, so teams are throwing more on us.
As regards points....we're on pace to give up more than we did last year. Not by a lot, it's close, but it's more.
GregC
November 20, 2024 at 09:30 am
I think those two pick-sixes that Love threw may be inflating the number just a bit. Usually the stats just use total points rather than discarding points allowed by the offense. At any rate, points allowed is basically the same as last year. Not the "night and day" difference that some people claim to see. Regardless, I still feel that with Hafley there is more room for growth than there was with Barry. I felt that Barry had maxed out his potential as a DC.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 12:06 pm
So far they haven't gotten to play a QB that was cut the next day. LH isn't into context but if Stafford had played in that game and the Rams scored their season average against the Packers they would have finished 17th in points allowed per game. And he was just one of a half dozen QBs they played that aren't on the same team this year. Context matters.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 05:58 pm
One of Barry’s beneficiaries looks likely to start next week. DiVito. Part of the reason cited by the Giants was his performance against us.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 09:36 am
One area that we have improved significantly is turnovers.
I would be curious to see where we are for sacks, tackles for loss, 3rd down stops. Those types of things.
PeteK
November 20, 2024 at 09:40 am
While watching the games it doesn't seem to me that we are that much better against the run.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:51 am
We haven’t given up the sporadic 200 yard games. I can’t think of a game where a run game has beaten us to the extent that occurred under Barry. In that sense we’ve been better against the conventional run. With the baffling exception of last week, we’ve also been much better against the dual threat type mobile QBs (we seemed not to anticipate that Williams might be used more as one) than we have been in a long time.
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 11:11 am
if you're being beaten, but not by the run, it still means you're being beaten.
points scored/allowed is the only stat that matters.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 12:09 pm
The Packers are scoring 2.5 points more this year despite the kicking struggles. Gee, I wonder if that could be from the increase in turnovers?🤔
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 01:45 pm
turnovers factor on both side of the ball. As do splash plays. Splash plays I believe are a bigger determinate.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 05:59 pm
Splash plays have been plentiful, in both directions too
TXCHEESE
November 20, 2024 at 08:29 am
The one thing SF can't take from the Bears' game plan is the QB runs. Purdy can run on occasion, but he's not nearly as athletic as Williams and is nursing a sore shoulder already. I admit CMC scares the crap out of me though. GB needs to limit the damage, because he will be that guy that converts the unlikely 3rd down.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 12:11 pm
McCaffrey one on one with Quay might finally get Quay benched though.
Speaking of benched, Campbell is having a real bad year, I hope they dial up some throws to Kraft when he's in the game.
LeotisHarris
November 20, 2024 at 08:37 am
Way to sock it to us, Al. Now I'm imagining Quay riding a tricycle in tight circles before falling over a' la Artie Johnson. I'm afraid he's a lost cause.
The 49ers are banged up, but they are very much alive in their shitty division and have a lot to play for. So do we. I like our chances in this game.
Spock
November 20, 2024 at 09:12 am
(Arte Johnson, wearing a German WW2 helmet and peering through a bush) "Verrrry Interesting. But strange, very strange."
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 11:11 am
No one in their shitty division is below .500...nor is anyone more than one game OVER .500.
This game is every bit as important as the Bears game, if not moreso due to protecting home field.
LeotisHarris
November 20, 2024 at 01:05 pm
My perception of the NFC West as a shitty division is mine alone. You need not employ your fancy maths in feeble attempts to refute my position. It's a shitty division, dobber. Shittty!
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 02:36 pm
most definitely feeble... :)
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 02:41 pm
if it's so feeble why do all of our elites live out here?
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 06:03 pm
Weather is nice, but are they really elite or just adept at telling us that they are?
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 10:24 pm
well, they earn all the money...
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 11:14 am
Leotis, I just don't like it when you venture into cliche territory.
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 11:37 am
He's giving 110%, but he just wants to do what's best for the thread.
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 11:57 am
double betrayals. oh the humanity
LeotisHarris
November 20, 2024 at 01:04 pm
I feel I'm still contributing at a high level. I'll raise and lower the bar a bit, just for you. Please realize, dobber doesn't put his pants on one leg at a time.
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2024 at 01:49 pm
i JUST WANT TO BE SEEN
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 02:43 pm
Pants?
LeotisHarris
November 20, 2024 at 04:34 pm
I laughed
greengold
November 20, 2024 at 04:45 pm
Oh, geez...!
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 08:47 am
The good news:
"Only one dropped pass and three penalties (and two of those were absolutely not penalties)."
This is something that really hasn't been talked about much. But this was a huge improvement.
Though the 1 drop was on 3rd down and stopped a drive.
'Jordan Love looked more like his old self. If anyone underestimated the effect his injuries had on his play, you saw the difference with a healthy Jordan Love on Sunday.'
Getting Love back to his healthy self and having him moving around and slinging the ball down the field changes everything for the offense. They moved the ball down the field every drive but 1. And that 1 was a dropped 3rd down.
"Christain Watson showed why he needs to be the focal point of the passing game."
Watson is the one player that can flip a game. He has the height, the speed and the ability to beat a double team. They need to get him the ball way more then what they have been. Now that being said they need to find ways to get Reed and Kraft the ball as well.
The bad news:
"The Bears new OC did a fantastic job in drawing up a blueprint on how to best attack the Packers."
You could tell that what the Bears did, the defense didn't expect. The defense is still a bit of a work in progress.
"The 49ers will be fighting to save their season. Green Bay better be ready for it."
They will be. And they have had our number for a long time. Its time to change that though!
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:46 am
I disagree with you that Watson is the only guy who can flip a game. I think Reed has, Wicks could and even Melton has once. Doubs did in the playoffs, though I see him more as the steady piece. The difference last week is partly that Reed was surprisingly under targeted again and was given few routes to get him open in motion to run after the catch. The other is that Wicks was finally demoted and Watson given some crossing and other routes—his best—instead.
That was the right move by LaFleur based on performance, if a little belated. What we saw was the result of having the better candidate out in the field and using him to his strengths: not just getting him snaps but building him into the plan as a main weapon not blocker/late progression option.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 11:07 am
Reed is right there with Watson. But its different with Watson. To me they are 1A, 1B. I should have phrased it a bit different, because I didn't want to leave out Reed. But Watson is a different kind of guy. He puts fear in defenses.
I really like WIcks, but he needs to be more consistent catching the ball. He was still getting open, they just didn't throw to him.
I want to see these 3 getting the most amount of targets moving on. Watson, Reed, Kraft. Doubs right after. Wicks and Melton getting worked in, but not being primary targets.
fthisJack
November 21, 2024 at 06:33 am
Yup......spread the ball around. We don't need a Davonte Adams O.
HarryHodag
November 20, 2024 at 08:54 am
While His Darkness used to brag about owning the Bears, Kyle Shanahan has a legit claim about owning the Packers. San Fran is not the team of past years but they still have enough firepower that if the defense comes out flat SF could easily win. Jordan Love will need all his resources to have enough offense to keep up with SF.
BTW-The national sports media dopes(many reside at ESPN) have finally recognized that the Detroit Lions have a good football team. Anyone truly looking at the league the past two years would already have known this but the 'experts' at ESPN showed some highlights today about how good the Lions have become. Shocker! Since both New York teams are awful, I suppose they had to look at other teams.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 09:27 am
"BTW-The national sports media dopes(many reside at ESPN) have finally recognized that the Detroit Lions have a good football team. "
Detroit is a good team. My question with them are they peaking too soon? You don't win the championship in November. You want to play your best ball when you get to the playoffs.
Speaking of the talking heads... I have seen that the Packers were lucky to win by a blocked FG. Yet when KC did it a week ago, they are a great team who just finds ways to win.
PeteK
November 20, 2024 at 09:45 am
Winning SBs gets you that reputation.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 11:15 am
can have the reputation, but its funny how the narratives change.
greengold
November 20, 2024 at 04:48 pm
It's all that matters, Petey. Period. Solid.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 10:12 am
lol, no the Chiefs were lucky too. The talking heads just go with the narrative. It’s rarely insight just reinforcement.
RCPackerFan
November 20, 2024 at 11:28 am
They always do. Just throw out whatever they can.
its like the days of the Patriots. They did everything better then everyone else, and when they lost, they never gave the other team credit. Only talked about what the Patriots did poorly.
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:27 am
On rewatching this game, the player who unexpectedly stood out was Carrington Valentine. He actually played far better than I realized. He was clearly the best CB out there (after Jaire went off—before which he was looking pretty good). Valentine needs to be the starter opposite Jaire. It’s not even close.
Stokes looks to me like a man whose injury has taken away his confidence in his body. I agree he’s just not going all out. For a guy whose real ability was the use of physicality and length at the catch point, that’s pretty terminal. Sadly though, Nixon outside is just as bad one the throws start going around 10 yards deep. He’s just not aware with his back to the QB, or agile enough. Keeping him on the field when Bullard is in the slot and we aren’t playing a non passing QB is not viable. I’m ready to see Rochell as the third man up outside.
There is no need to add to what you wrote about Walker, let’s just say I’m a convert to the time bing over for him as the MIKE. Wilson has outplayed him consistently, despite the claimed physical limitations some cite. If it works, question the assumptions not the results. I would like to see Walker tried away from the Mike and dot, to see if that freed him up to be more instinctive.
I am starting to worry about Hafley’s personnel decision making. More so even than his failures to anticipate the pretty telegraphed changes to what the Bears were going to try to do or adjust to, let’s be honest, something we’ve seen fairly similar analogs to already this season and handled relatively well. As Dobber said yesterday, he seemed to be defending as if no change of OC or philosophy occurred. He was still doing that well into the game. Thats not been an issue previously.
Unfortunately, questionable personnel loyalties and inflexibility have been and have been under LaFleur. We need to stop it and fast, this far into the season. LaFleur least used Watson over Wicks. Perhaps that will give Hafley the confidence to do the same with Wilson over Walker and Valentine over Nixon? LVN might need further bench time too if Cox can continue to show up.
The second player who was noticeably better was Gary. Not spectacular in the stat sheet sense, but a handful all day. Gary was partly responsible for the Slaton sack. However, Slaton finally showed his burst. I’d like to see more of that from him. I’d like to see it at all from Clark.
I am starting to wonder if that toe injury isn’t much more debilitating for Clark than people think. Toe problems for rushers can be much more impactful than they sound to those who haven’t played through one. If so, we may need to rest him. I’d consider elevating Ford and trying to give Clark a better chance to get Healthy. Gary needs help. If he’d played the game he did in Sunday with anything much coming from the rest of the front, I think the results could have been spectacular.
Finally, Emmanuel Wilson. He comes in and gets 13 yards on his first rush—the longest on the first drive . He gets one more carry. He’s out snapped by Brooks, despite having done more on those short catch and run passes. Brooks also missed a key block in protection. I don’t understand the favoring of Brooks. It’s very odd when LaFleur is typically very reluctant to change pecking orders.
Guam
November 20, 2024 at 11:06 am
Hafley has had only one real stinker of a game plan and that was the first half of the Minnesota game. I didn't like some of what I saw against the Bears but then the defense only gave up 19 points in total. I agree that Hafley missed the mark in what he prepared for against the Bears, but it didn't kill the Packers like it did against Minnesota.
The other team's OCs get paid too and Hafley won't win them all. I can live with a game where the plan looked off but the defense was still good enough to hold the opponent under 20 points and the Packers won the game.
LLCHESTY
November 20, 2024 at 12:18 pm
Players watch a lot of film too and they have to realize they were better when Wilson played more. You can only do that for so long before you get grumbling that leads to dissension in the ranks.
x24
November 20, 2024 at 09:51 am
Credit where credit is due- anybody else impressed with the bears screen game? Their running back was patient. He used his blockers as shields, juked to force a defensive player to commit, then juked back to the opposite side preventing a tackle. Watching those plays live; this is what a screen play should be...
Coldworld
November 20, 2024 at 09:59 am
Really no. Their run game was one run where we blew fill completely and a lot of impotence.
dobber
November 20, 2024 at 11:16 am
All of that was on film. They don't ask Williams to throw downfield until they're playing catch-up. His air yards/throw are awful because he throws short for 3 quarters in just about every game.
So the Packers played a soft zone and let them play toss-catch under 5 yards instead of challenging throws and maybe jumping routes/picking off passes. It's one thing if the Packers didn't think they could cover the Bears' receivers, but they knew this had to be coming and never seemed to make the adjustments.
LambeauPlain
November 20, 2024 at 11:54 am
I was very hopeful the 4-3 Pack Attack D would highlight the size, speed and athleticism of Q. Walker. Surprisingly, it has made all of his talent shrink.
If Hafley has any courage, he will bench Walker and start Wilson and keep him on the field with Cooper. McDuffie and maybe some snaps from Hopper when playing base.
Hafley need not make wholesale changes but he must put the best players on the field to execute his pressure defense.
He knows Walker is not going to suddenly become a dominant LB. It's year 3 and he's a back up talent/spot player. Hafley had the courage to end the Stokes post injury reclamation project . Bench Walker. Maybe it will wake up Kenny, Van Ness from their slumber and encourage Alexander to start pulling the wagon vs riding on it.
marpag1
November 20, 2024 at 01:52 pm
"Christain Watson showed why he needs to be the focal point of the passing game."
Fair enough. But the thing that no one seems to want to say about this year's Packers team is that the entire receiver room has been a bit of a dud. (Anyone seen Wicks lately? Melton?) Granted, some expectations were unrealistic. But it's debatable if any Packer receiver has lived up to reasonable expectations, and I definitely wouldn't say that any have surpassed them. I think Tucker Kraft has, if you want to include tight ends, but even that is partly due to the absence of Musgrave. Maybe Reed... ?
I get it that we had Malik Willis for 2.5 games, and that makes a difference. Still, the receiver room has been a disappointment. Not a huge one, but a disappointment nonetheless.
barutanseijin
November 20, 2024 at 02:57 pm
Aside from the Willis interlude, the receivers have had a hobbled Jordan Love throwing to them for all but two games (the opener and the Bear game). I would expect their stats to look less than stellar.
marpag1
November 21, 2024 at 01:29 am
That's a factor, yes, but I don't know if receivers dropping passes right and left is really caused that much by anything other than their own hands. And gimpy QB or no, Malik Heath has 26 yards receiving on the year. Bo Melton has all of five catches. Wicks has less than 200 yards on the year, and hasn't been anywhere near as dynamic as he was at the end of last year. I'm not saying these guys suck, but I think all of them have been mildly disappointing. None have been a pleasant surprise, nor have any taken a big step forward.
Major Snafu
November 21, 2024 at 02:36 pm
I just wonder which receiver will be the lucky one this week to get all the throws? Maybe its me but Love really hasnt been looking at his progressions that much and is more focuses on watching one guy run his route and timing when the guy might be open.
Ya defenses will pick up on this in the film room and spend more time looking at his eyes and I see more interceptions coming his way.
Reed, Dobbs, Kraft went missing in last week game and unless I'm wrong they played too.
These guys wont like running around not being part of the game plan. Thus, lot more drops as they arent ready for a ball to come there way.
I still say Love will be a disappointment going forward to many.
Bitternotsour
November 21, 2024 at 03:00 pm
it's just you. thinking isn't your strong suit.