The ball was where it was supposed to be. It was thrown before MVS broke his route. But the fact that we see this play being made regularly and effortlessly between rodgers and Adams tells me the issue isnt usually rodgers. Routes have to be ran precisely every time. Any unnecessary half steps, rounding cuts, changes in stride length at speed effects timing. rodgers is trusting MVS to run his routes to perfection. He is putting it where he wants him to be away from the defender. If mvs went a half step too far, he's a split second slower and it makes the catch (which was thrown before he breaks down for the cut) more difficult and you get this play here. Regardless of the imperfection, a solid WR has a pretty good chance of making that catch. Are there any recent solid contributors at wr for the packers that you don't think is making that catch? Jennings, driver, cobb, Jordy, james Jones, Adams are making that catch regularly.

If you can't play QB with anticipation, you lose the entire advantage of the offense knowing the play. The cuts cause the separation. If you can't throw anticipating the cuts due to a lack of consistent route running/timing, the defense has time to react and the offense looks like it did the past few years. Holding the ball waiting for something to open.

What was the route he was supposed to run there? A comeback route, a dig route, a curl, a stick route or was it supposed to be a pivot route.

Rodgers threw the ball like MVS was supposed to break outside not inside. If he was supposed to turn inside, then Rodgers throw was way off. MVS is 6'4" and hes almost completely stretched out for that ball. Not a terrible drop IMO but maybe a miscommunication or incorrect route adjustment.

I dont know if its MVS, I guess we just have to assume it is but most of the time Rodgers is throwing an uncatchable ball to MVS, no where near him. Especially the deep balls. If hes not WIDE open, its like Rodgers doesnt trust him to put it in a catchable area.

If he doesnt trust him to be in the right spot or to come down with a 50-50 ball then start using him as the jet motion guy or something. Have him run the Sternberger play, get him the ball in space on short crisp routes or crossing patterns.

And while I'm at it. Can LaFluer just put AJ Dillon in the I formation and give him a head of steam before he gets the ball. Having him get the ball from a dead stop in the Pistol formation isnt even close to the best way to utilize this guy. I get that it's the offense they run but why draft a big bruiser like that if your not gonna put him in the best position to succeed?

I just re-watched the game again - MVS didnt drop the ball on two of the passes that I saw- the one he got his hands on was high and would have been a great catch. The other pass that I saw was uncatchable. AR did not have a really accurate game with his passes - like in the first game or two- he missed Adams a couple of times. Once a pass was behind was deflected and we were lucky it wasnt picked. On some of Adams catches even the announcers said he would have gone along way but the pass was low. Tonyan might have gone to the house if the long pass that he caught was caught in stride instead he had to dive for it.

Lazard is a deep threat. Ask the Saints.

If we can’t throw it to MVS, we might as well put another OT out there with an eligible number.. I wonder how many snaps Shepherd gets because I think MVS is going to be on the bench more. We’ve been really hit with injuries at WR and MVS has been the only guy to stay healthy so far.

I think your argument would be stronger if we were losing games because our our WRs. We aren’t. Your prediction about our ultimate failure in the playoffs is noted.

Again what route was he supposed to run there. He ran a curl or comeback route. Was he supposed to adjust his route based on the CB coverage? He ran the comeback route well, had plenty of separation at the top of the route but Rodgers threw the ball like he was expecting him to break or turn outside, not inside.

Until we know what his responsibility is there we dont know if was a bad route or route adjustment or a bad throw by Rodgers. Again its Rodgers so we have to assume MVS was in the wrong but was he really? It's not like Rodgers was perfectly accurate all day either.

Whatever it is they need to get it figured out or better teams will make them pay for those kinds of misses.

Lare - You, like the other MVS haters, have no idea what route is correct. You have no clue whether any route run by any receiver is correct. This is because you have no idea what play is called and what routes are incorporated into each play.

You also need to re-watch the video. MVS turns to his right/the inside of the field. AR's throw is to his left/the sideline. Unless AR or MVS say what happened we will never know whether it was a miscommunication or one them made a mistake. You may think that you know, but you don't.

They really do need one serious receiver. I'm not one to trade draft capital. But they are close. They will be one of the last teams to pick. Go get a player. If lazzard and MVS are your #3 and #4 wr's, you are doing pretty darn well at the position. Right now with no lazzard and MVS at #2, it's pitiful. At this stage, the defense is ok. You can win in spite of the defense. It's not ideal, but it's been done in the past. But you have to button down the couple loose ends on offense and hope for good health.

Gutedkunst should be on the phones 24/7 trying to swing a deal for a veteran WR who can make the key catches down to the road in the playoffs.

I like it also, never really know what the next play is going to be.

Watching the Rams thump the Bears I thought their offense looks alot like ours. Motion, crossing routes, quick passes, fun to watch.

Let Taylor and Shepherd get their chances, keep the best players on the field has to be LeFleur's mantra. The D line can hold it's own and should stay at a six man unit in rotation. Martin and Barnes can take charge of the middle.

We can spend a draft pick today for a proven receiver right now that won't hurt the cap. They just have to find the team interested, and I think there are a few teams that would be interested. Jj watt isn't realistic.

Do you truly not understand that the whole idea is to run more and pass less , and to throw to RBs and TEs?

What ONE move would "put us over the top"? I mean, as I see it, we're a division winner if we keep Rodgers healthy so we're already formidable contenders. WHO would be the one WR that would guarantee it.? Julio Jones?

I don't think so. Really. And it doesn't bother me to lose a few games during the season, as long as we win at home and beat our division rivals on the road AND we keep our QB protected so we can use him in the playoffs.

We are 5-1, on our way to 6-1 with what we've got. Minnesota will be lucky to hold us to 40 next week.

And of course you can have a one WR offense. Line up two backs and two TEs with one WR. How about Adams, Jones, Williams, Tonyan and Lewis? If they're going to double Adams, we'll play 10 on 9 in the trenches where we'll out weigh them by about 30 pounds per man.

"if not EQ who"...

IMO there are three better choices than MVS already on the roster for "slot" style passes where hands and quicks are way more important than flat out speed -- EQ (if he can shake off the rust), Taylor and Shepherd. No idea about the newly signed guy, but apparently he's an experienced slot receiver too.

It may still be too early to give up on MVS -- speed kills, and he's the only true burner on the roster to "take off the top". I guess it's just a matter of whether or not the light bulb goes on before patience runs out.

I agree, Cobb would be a very good fit at this point, but he signed a 3 year contract with 18 mill guaranteed. Too expensive for us .

Very true, for every guy they pick up that’s one less of their own they can sign. Reward your own and keep a happy locker room !

How about Michael Thomas for Bahk?

Again, the issue isn't that one play, it's his overall play. He can't make quick cuts, can't catch well with just hands he's a body catcher, and even though he's fast he rarely gets good separation. Time to give someone else a chance.

Maybe, it was "virtually" uncatchable - as in, I can't catch it from my laptop.
But physically, it was quite catchable -- two hands on it, shoulder-high. I'd venture that 98% of starting receivers in the NFL make that catch at least 90% of the time.