Would the Packers Move Malik Willis for the Right Price?
If a team comes knocking, could Malik Willis be on the block?
By GregMeinholz

What is the job of a backup quarterback? Well, it depends on what team you ask in a given year. If a franchise is heading into the season with questions about who their starting quarterback should be, then the backup job may be to stay sharp and challenge for that starting job. If they already have a Franchise quarterback, the backup job may be to remain vigilant if they're needed as an insurance policy. Sometimes that backup job may belong to a solid veteran who can lead the team if necessary. Other times it could belong to a young developing QB who could either be the QB of the future or perhaps they could end up a trade piece for that franchise later on. The Green Bay Packers have mainly found themselves with a Franchise QB in the last 30 years, so their backup position has fluctuated between vet backup and young development. This past season in 2024, they found themselves with a bit of a mix of both.
I could almost say I saw it coming. The last time the Green Bay Packers made each of their backup Quarterbacks part of preseason roster cuts was in 2013 when they released Graham Harrell, Vince Young, and BJ Coleman who spent training camp with them. They went on to bring in Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien to start the season behind Aaron Rodgers, and eight games into the season, Aaron Rodgers went down with an injury resulting in a starting QB carousel that included Wallace, Tolzien, and also Matt Flynn who returned to the team after a 1.5 season absence. Well, much like 2013, 11 years later, the Packers released each of their training camp backup QBs, Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt, and traded a seventh-round pick for Malik Willis who after only about a week and a half in green and gold, had to take over for an injured Jordan Love. I guess if you release all your backups in camp, you're playing with fire to have your starting QB get hurt. And the Packers got burned each time. But unlike in 2013, the backup QB brought in afterward, was successful.
It may have been one of the most exciting aspects of the 2024 season. We had a relatively unknown backup QB walk into the building and end up winning two games after being in the locker room for only about three weeks. It's not like we paid a pretty penny to get him. The Tennessee Titans felt like Willis was not good enough to keep on despite their own QB question marks and they dealt him for a seventh-round pick. Willis may have been the trade steal of the season when it was all said and done. It was nice after many years of feeling like the Packers were dead in the water if the backup had to come in, to fall into a situation where we could say hey, maybe we have a chance to pull off a win with this guy.
But with Malik Willis turning 26 years old in May and due a new contract after next season, Brian Gutekunst needs to ask himself, what is he worth to us?
In the past 30 years of franchise QB riches, while the Packers have had some decent backup QB's, they've only been able to yield a good return on one of them. In 2001, the Packers traded third-year backup quarterback, Matt Hasselbeck to the Seattle Seahawks for a swapping of first-round picks (the Packers moved up seven spots) and a third-round pick. Hasselbeck never started a game for the Packers but he did attempt 29 passes in the regular season resulting in 145 yards, two touchdowns, and zero interceptions. Hasselbeck went on to be well worth the trade starting in Seattle for ten seasons resulting in three pro bowls and a Super Bowl appearance.
Hasselbeck was traded at 25 years old before turning 26 just after his first season with the Seahawks got started.

If the Price is Right
As the Packers head into the offseason, they're faced with a bit of a dilemma. Malik Willis showed that he could be a successful Quarterback in the NFL if put in the right situation. If Jordan Love faces the same injury luck 2025 as he did in 2024, Willis could be a very valuable resource. It would seem like a no-brainer most of the time, but then you realize that Malik Willis is a free agent after next season. If he still shows some potential next season, he could easily walk out of 1265 Lombardi Ave as one of the hottest QB free agents whether as a starter or backup and the Packers will be watching him head out with them empty-handed wondering who their next backup QB could be. But if a team comes knocking in the next month or so, they could turn their 7th round investment back in August into some backup QB wins and higher draft capital.
As we look at the NFL right now, I think there are around six teams whose starting Quarterbacks in 2025 may not be currently on the roster. 2-3 of those spots could be filled by rookies taken in the draft with the other three maybe looking towards free agency. Those looking at free agency may only be looking to sign a bridge quarterback for next season until they either have better options or a developmental QB crosses a threshold. If they don't like their prospects in free agency or the cap hit will break the bank, they may look toward trading for a QB that could have potential, and if he doesn't they can cut him loose after next season.
Do I think Malik Willis is going to yield a Matt Hasselbeck return swapping first-round picks and adding on a third? No. I don't think a team is going to spend that much on a player they may have to pay next year if he's successful. So what could the Packers get, what's the threshold? If I'm Brian Gutekunst, I'm not entertaining anything below a 5th round pick. You spent a 7th-round pick to get Willis, and getting a 7th-rounder to ship him off months after he proved worth more is just crazy. I think a year of backup QB insurance is worth more than a 6th-rounder. A fifth-rounder though, you might have to consider.
The Packers have already met with two college quarterbacks at the Tropicana Bowl. These would be Cal QB Chandler Rogers and Davis Black of California University of Pennsylvania. Both aren't even projected to be drafted, but it's clear the Packers are getting on top of their game by scouting and meeting with prospects so they know who may be worth bringing in, and who isn't. This doesn't mean a drafted or undrafted rookie QB will be backing up Jordan Love in week 1 with Malik Willis gone. But it does mean they could be keeping their options open for moving on from the current backups.
If a low draft pick is spent on a QB, the Packers could still look to a veteran for behind Jordan Love. This would make trading as well as keeping Malik Willis a possibility. But if any deal comes, I'd see if happening before the Super Bowl.
Your guess is as good as mine whether or not Malik Willis will be a Packer next year or if he'll be traded. One thing is for sure: If the Packers simply move on from him next year, it will feel as if we let him go for nothing. If a team comes calling willing to give up mid-round and above draft capital for Malik Willis, I say we take it. We may be able to get the next Malik Willis in the late rounds or even sign a veteran QB to a 1-2 year deal.
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Comments (63)
Packman60
January 21, 2025 at 10:02 am
Sorry Greg! It would take more than a 5th round pick for me to want to give up the insurance a quality back-up QB provides. Chances are if they got a 4th or a pick swap of maybe a 3rd for a 5th they would be using that pick on a QB to replace Willis and there's no guarantee that pick would work out. The Packers have big aspirations for 2025. Not having a quality back-up who could win you a couple of games if Love sustained an injury like he did this year could cost you a chance at the playoffs.
Turophile
January 21, 2025 at 11:26 am
I feel the same. A 5th just doesn't get it done. It might be that the best offer on the table is just that, but Malik is worth more to Green Bay because he has been exactly the right fit for a backup QB here - and already showed his value with Love injured.
There are few things as useless as a backup QB.........UNTIL your starter goes down. Then he can be a savior of the whole season and his value skyrockets.
Realistic or not, because of his value to Green Bay specifically, I'd need a 3rd or better to let him go, especially given the pressure teams without a decent QB will feel, this coming year.
Before the draft, the Packers can just sit tight and refuse a trade, until they get what they want, while teams without a decent starter get increasingly squeezed by the pressure to resolve their QB situation more and more, until the pressure becomes unbearable. At that point in time, a 3rd rounder does not seem like too big a price to pay.
splitpea1
January 21, 2025 at 10:17 am
Willis is too valuable as insurance to be traded right now--unless an offer comes that you can't resist, which would be no less than a third-rounder. We've also seen him take care of the football and make some pinpoint throws, something we'd like to see a little more out of our starter at times. He can also be used creatively if MLF chooses to do so. There's still a lot of untapped potential here.
The Packers already have a lot to figure out in the off-season, and the backup QB position doesn't need to be added to the list right now. Worry about it later.
GregC
January 21, 2025 at 11:03 am
Agreed. A third-rounder at least. He's worth a lot more than a fifth-round pick. I am quietly hoping nobody makes an offer so we don't have to worry about the backup QB position next year.
murf7777
January 22, 2025 at 06:35 am
A high third rounder at that!
Leatherhead
January 21, 2025 at 10:51 am
I think we have a great situation with Willis as our backup. We should trade him away so that we wouldn't have a great situation? That just doesn't make sense to me.
Even if you could get a first round pick for the, guy, you have to factor in that some #1s aren't as impactful as a backup QB who can win games for you. I think you don't go making holes in your roster that you don't have to.
Right now, out of the 21 offensive guys we'll dress out for our opener next year, we need to replace a WR and an OL, at a minimum. Two holes can be managed in the draft and FA, even three or four. You also have to factor in the defense needs two CBs, a replacement for Slaton, and replacements for Mcduffie and others. Pretty soon we need 10 new guys added to the youngest team in the league.
So, IMO, you try to not create more holes. That's what trading away Willis would do. Why? Creating a hole to help fill a hole someplace else?
dobber
January 21, 2025 at 11:02 am
We agree on holes and making things hard for yourself. I think there's also a bit of opportunity that comes into play.
Every player has a value...we complain regularly here that the Packers overvalue their own. The Packers should set that value (it can be outrageous if they like) and if some GM meets or exceeds it, they should make the deal. If no one is willing to meet that price--we assume teams are going to call, which may or may not happen--then you've got your backup for 2025 and you get a comp pick when he moves on...because he IS going to want a chance to start and make his $$.
kozmo
January 21, 2025 at 11:07 am
if you can get a #1 for him which I doubt highly you take it all day...you just robbed the bank
Leatherhead
January 21, 2025 at 12:45 pm
Who was more impactful to our team this year, Willis, or
VanNess. Or Wyatt. Or Quay Walker. Or Alexander. Or Morgan. All recent first rounders.
IMO, a backup QB who can go 2-0 is worth as much as any of those guys.
nagawicka
January 22, 2025 at 08:11 pm
Imagine moving heaven & earth to find an adequate backup quarterback, and after all that effort the guy you finally sign actually has to play, and when he steps onto the field w/almost no studytime prep or snaps to speak of, performs flawlessly, or nearly. Imagine seeing that and thinking, 'I bet I could get a 5th-rounder for that guy'. Imagine doing ALLLL that work only to turn around and *dismantle* what you've been trying to build for years, and years, and years. For what. Even a 1st can't beat the Willis win in-hand. Every draft pick is a crapshoot, and this one already paid out. No one takes their winnings back to the casino house and asks if they could please risk their piles & piles of cash one more time at house odds. WTF
Cheezehead72
January 21, 2025 at 11:08 am
I say keep him unless you get a 2nd or a 1st and yes I know that will not happen. He is an experienced QB that is on his rookie contract. He can win at least half ogf the games he starts. He also provides the opportunity to come in on special situations where he might be better than Love.
Keep him because we might need him.
Green Bay Shareholder
January 21, 2025 at 11:39 am
Basically would you rather have Malik Willis, who won you a couple of games this year without which the team would've been sitting on the couch 1 week earlier or have another in the long line of Jordan Morgans sitting on the bench or the trainer's room - hmmmm !
WestCoastPackerBacker
January 21, 2025 at 12:21 pm
Let's see how the Jordan Morgan pick works out before thinking it was not worthy of the 1st round. There were certainly other teams interested in Morgan at that general area of the draft. Maybe they were right and we just haven't seen it yet?
Coldworld
January 21, 2025 at 01:29 pm
I find the dismissal of players like Morgan and Hopper ridiculous, especially when set against the optimism for the similarly injured Lloyd.
I say that not having favored Morgan or Hopper while being keen on Lloyd at draft time. I wanted an IOL sorcialist with a more physical profile first. I thought we should have gone CB after taking Cooper.
Hopper missed the preseason with a known injury essentially. Eric Wilson played well above expectations, McDuffie though limited did too. Hopper barely got a chance but it took Cooper half a season too.
Morgan took a while to look comfortable at G (I still think he’s a better T prospect athletically), but with a year in the weight room that may not be such an issue. By the end of camp though he looked better than Rhyan at G, then got hurt.
Had he stayed healthy we might have been able to move Rhyan or Jenkins to C, which may well happen now. Gute mentioned Morgan may yet move to T, but I think he’s likely to start at G next year if all are healthy. Far too early to write him off, even if he’s is indeed more finesse in terms of style than I think is advisable.
Hopper, Morgan and Lloyd are all unproven extra draft picks next year essentially. They may be scrubs or they may be heroes. None of us have any way to know at this point. They are not bad picks or good ones, but yet to be proven.
Cheezehead72
January 21, 2025 at 12:21 pm
Malik won the three games he started. Love has shown that he can get hurt. Yes we need to keep him and draft a developmental QB. That will give the QB we draft a year to get some experience to be the back up. Malik is still on his rookie contract so we pay little for a decent back up.
Packers0808
January 21, 2025 at 11:12 am
Not only keep him, extend him if can be convinced to.
Sureshot
January 21, 2025 at 11:20 am
You keep him for one year and you get a compensatory pick if he signs a decent contract with another team afterwards.
Win win.
Turophile
January 21, 2025 at 11:33 am
A good point here.
WestCoastPackerBacker
January 21, 2025 at 11:40 am
"We may be able to get the next Malik Willis in the late rounds or even sign a veteran QB to a 1-2 year deal." It's clearly not that easy. Willis was a 3rd round pick for TEN, and GB rarely drafts backup QBs that high.
And GB doesn't often sign veteran QBs, preferring to draft their backups. But until Willis, the backups have been pretty awful other than Love and Matt Flynn:
Tim Boyle
Kurt Benkert
DeShone Kizer
Brett Hundley
Joe Callahan
Scott Tolzien
GB finally found a good backup that can run, throw, take care of the ball, and win some games. I don't think you give that up for a 5th rounder.
Coldworld
January 21, 2025 at 11:43 am
Willis is not going to stay here as a backup. He will at least want a chance to compete after next year. So from now on he’s a cheap rental.
This is not a good QB class. Willis having shown the mental aspects he had while here, along with the previously known arm talent is potentially a legitimate option to start for several teams. He and Darnold (possibly) are the best younger QBs potentially available to a team that needs one. If any GM agrees, it is possible that we get an offer for Willis that we can not refuse.
To be clear a 5th rounder is not even close to enough to prize him free. We’d need at least a second and a later pick (to replace him directly or by trade) before I’d see any justification in letting him go and lessen our depth in 2025. If we do keep him then we are looking at a comp pick in 2027. The best that could be is a 3rd, which is typically valued in this year’s draft terms as 5th due to the 2 year delay.
Unusually, I do not think that is impossible for him despite how cheaply we got him. If he’s seen as a best available bet by a team, that’s too valuable to worry about how we got him.
LLCHESTY
January 21, 2025 at 06:43 pm
I think he's worth waiting on a 3rd for two years for. I think I'd trade him if someone offered a high second(most teams offering will have a high second) but I'd take a 2nd and some change. If you could get a high second and a 4th for 5th round swap I'd pull the trigger.
The other thing is small in the scheme of things but I wouldn't want to ship him off to a shitty team with bad prospects. He came in, was the consummate teammate, and got it done under very trying circumstances. I'd take a smidge less if it meant sending him to place with a better foundation.
Vachio
January 21, 2025 at 11:44 am
I think the right price would have to be pretty high. It's no stretch to say that without Willis, we would not have been in the playoffs at all. I figure he's going to show more development in the preseason and have another moment or two during the real games. Maybe he shows enough that someone makes a big offer next season or someone signs him to an inflated contract after the season and we get a nice compensatory pick.
NFLfan
January 21, 2025 at 11:57 am
Malik Willis has been a blessing and has offered a sense of security-I would say a polite 'no-thank you' to potential suitors. Too much need to focus on DL/OL/CB/and coaches.
NFLfan
January 21, 2025 at 12:08 pm
Off-topic but important:
According to Ian Rapoport the Packers have interviewed Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers. They were also interested in Jet's Aaron Whitecotton?
stockholder
January 21, 2025 at 12:19 pm
They not only would, THEY SHOULD.
The packers traded Aaron Brooks to NO.
Not only that- They traded Matt Hassleback on
March 2, 2001. Along with their first draft pick (17th overall),
to the Seahawks for their first (10th overall)
and third-round draft picks (72nd overall).
Don't let a trade go out the Window.
NitschkeFan
January 21, 2025 at 12:34 pm
That is a pretty good haul. If you look at the Rich Hill draft value chart, moving up from 17 to 10 is worth roughly 70 "points". That is the equivalent to an early 3rd round pick, ~70th pick overall.
So the Packers got the equivalent of 70th and 72nd overall picks.
If they can get two high 3rd rounders for Malik Willis then yes I would go for it too.
I doubt they will be offered that and I would like Willis on the team next year.
Leatherhead
January 21, 2025 at 12:51 pm
How many titles did that trade bring us?
I think the Seattle trade involved us swapping first round picks with Seattle. We moved up to 10 and selected "Too Small" Jamal Reynolds. Seattle used the #17 pick to get HOFer Steve Hutchinson.
We also got a 3rd round pick that we used on Bhawoh Jue. So that trade got Seattle a starting QB and a HOF OL, and it got Green Bay two guys who weren't very good.
Good example, stockholder.
jannesbjornson
January 21, 2025 at 01:29 pm
You had to mention the HOF guy....
LeotisHarris
January 21, 2025 at 02:55 pm
To be fair to stockholder, Jue was the first Liberian drafted by an NFL team, so there's that.
barutanseijin
January 21, 2025 at 05:58 pm
We fans also got the “we want the ball and we’re going to score “ moment out of that deal.
Bitternotsour
January 21, 2025 at 07:52 pm
That was just Hasslebeck being the vocal leader that people are advocating Love become.
beerandbrats
January 21, 2025 at 12:26 pm
A guy who can win games for you when your QB is hurt is invaluable.
I would offer him an extension as a reward for helping us win 2 games. Then I would continue to develop him, showcase him in the pre-season, use his skillset in some of our game plans and hope he eventually turns into a 1st round pick.
T7Steve
January 21, 2025 at 12:27 pm
Think about talking to the Steelers. Trade for one of their "backups" and a receiver, defender or a pick. The Steelers are in a much worse place right now and will have to be in the market. It doesn't always have to be about draft picks.
Bitternotsour
January 21, 2025 at 07:53 pm
Not you, not imaginary trades, not now.
LeotisHarris
January 21, 2025 at 08:14 pm
What about a three-team trade with the Dolphins and Steelers? Steelers sent Tomiln and JJ Watt to Green Bay, Dolphins send Calais Campbell, MIke McDaniel and cash to the Steelers, and the Packers send LaFleur, LVN and a 2028 third rounder to the Fins? What about that? Huh?
A lot of people are saying Maxx Crosby is headed to Green Bay. Just what I heard.
murf7777
January 22, 2025 at 06:39 am
I’ll take TJ Watt….:
Packerpasty
January 21, 2025 at 01:02 pm
Scooter Tolzien was the best back up ever!!!
fireball
January 21, 2025 at 01:05 pm
Yeh, indeed, what is Malik Willis worth to the Packers?
Oh man, surely better, much better, than a fifth rounder. I'm thinking a three, maybe even a two. I'm not even thinking of trading Malik, for that matter. The guy is too promising, too promising certainly not to be relegated to a backup quarterback position. But what to do with him, right?
The Packers are stuck with Love. They made a bad bet this past summer signing Love to a monstrous four year contract worth 55 million dollars a year. Like that last monstrous contract that they signed with Aaron Rodgers.
Better the Packers should trade Love than Malik. But the Packers won't do that. They won't admit that they made a 55 million dollar a year mistake.
So, again, what do the Packers do with Malik? How do they value him?
PackerBackerAZ
January 21, 2025 at 01:18 pm
Why think of Willis as a backup? Is it because Gutekunst overpaid Love too soon? I say let those two duel it out in training camp for the starting job. I want the Packers to have the best starting quarterback available and only a training camp equal opportunity tryout can determine that. Did Love regress or is his ceiling lower than was projected? Did a light come on for Willis under LaFleur? Let the Packers give Willis an honest evaluation opportunity and not just continue with Love unopposed.
fireball
January 21, 2025 at 01:29 pm
Here, here.
canadapacker
January 21, 2025 at 03:54 pm
Come on who did Willis beat - Colts and Titans. Now he has potential and played well - no problem - but he won games early in the season against 2 lower level teams. The offer better be pretty dam good and or the pick available the same
porupack
January 22, 2025 at 08:54 am
And who did Love beat? Or barely beat with some lucky finger?
Matt
January 21, 2025 at 02:08 pm
1-2 round pick - trade him (unlikely to happen)
3rd - check out your options
4th and later - to would be hard to find someone gving that much quality (not impossible, but it's a lottery), so not
vin0770
January 21, 2025 at 02:45 pm
Finally have QUALITY backup qb after how many years of nothing? And they’d entertain the idea of trading? That would make no sense.
DoubleJ
January 21, 2025 at 04:24 pm
In 2021 the Jets traded Darnold to the Panthers for a 2021 R6 and 2022 R2 & R4. Willis showed more in his few starts in 2024 than Darnold showed in 3 season with the Jets. To me the Darnold trade is a good starting point for Willis compensation.
Sureshot
January 22, 2025 at 09:25 am
Your point is fair but the teams will always keep in mind the draft slots.
Darnold was the 3rd pick while Willis was a 3rd rounder.
Packers0808
January 21, 2025 at 05:27 pm
Seriously consider get Willis going and see what you can get for Love. No doubt Love regressed hopefully it was injuries because no doubt he has hung out his shingle GB for the forseeable future it appears.
PhantomII
January 21, 2025 at 09:38 pm
I'm a little salty Love was rushed back too soon. Willis was not making stupid mistakes and was taking what teams were giving them. Most of the games were not very good teams anyway. This would have allowed Love to heal and showcase Willis and allow ML to open up the offense a bit more to Willis for exactly this possibility. From what I see it would be moronic to take anything less than a 2nd RD pick for him an honestly I wouldn't mind benching Love and put Willis in to see if there really is fire in his belly for football. When he said Basketball was his favorite.....I was like UUUOOOHHH.
tobinrote
January 21, 2025 at 10:01 pm
move Willis? hell move Love for anyone who would assume his contract. Willis showed he could make throws Love routinely misses. he can make plays with his legs. the guy should be competing for starter not for backup
joejetson
January 21, 2025 at 10:31 pm
Willis won two games as starter, and put GB in perfect position to beat Chicago the final game. Until Hafley inexplicably gave them a free 20 yard completion. So IMO he potentially went 3-0 as the starting QB. That's great for a "backup" qb.
But I just don't think any GM is going to give a high pick for a player who was just acquired for a 7th round pick. Their fans would tar and feather the GM.
The only way I'd see him going somewhere else is a player-for-player deal. If somebody has, say, a pass rusher that Gutekunst thinks has potential to be a real upgrade, I could see that deal happening. Nobody is going to give up a "big name" player, but maybe Gute has his eyes on someone he really likes who happens to be behind another real good player, or who isn't used correctly. I think that was Zadarius Smith's situation before GB signed him as a free agent. He played, but he wasn't a big star.
I know I wouldn't give up Willis unless I knew I was getting someone who could help me win a lot of games.
Be patient, I like what someone posted above about an early season situation where somebody else's starter gets hurt. His value goes up depending on the desperation of the trade partner.
SDPack
January 21, 2025 at 11:41 pm
This all comes down to a compensatory pick analysis. The Pack can get the benefit of one more year of Willis plus set themselves up for a potentially high compensatory pick. How? For starters, if Willis continues to improve and prove out his ability to be a starter, another team is going to sign him to a big contract in 2026. As a compensatory free agent, that increases his impact to the pick calculation. Second, the Packers are unlikely to sign many other compensatory free agents in 2026 because they are going to have to sign and extend a very good 2022 draft class and save money to extend a very good 2023 draft class. During those two years, we will likely not be signing many CFAs with a more mature team full of our own. That means that Willis and anyone else we let walk after this year, will only lead to more and better compensatory picks which will allow Gutey to reload the roster with cheaper talent to offset the larger contracts we will have at that time. Therefore, it will make sense to keep Willis unless we get an offer of a 3rd round pick or better.
friedt
January 22, 2025 at 05:45 am
For the love of God, please keep him. If we are really that close to contending for a Super Bowl, why in the world would you trade him? Even if you got a #1 for him, there is no guarantee that a #1 will ever be what Willis has proven to be. Take the next step with Willis. Incorporate him into some RPO plays like the Saints did with their backup QB Taysom Hill Let's max this kid out for a more potent offense, and as backup QB who has proven he can win games for you.
porupack
January 22, 2025 at 09:03 am
Hmm, according to my math: trade an ascending and known commodity Willis for a 6th rounder, and gamble late in the draft to find a replacement QB in the 5th or 6th round equals 5 degrees below zero, exactly my thermometer reading this morning. See how logical this is?
nagawicka
January 22, 2025 at 09:18 am
No. IN WHAT SANE WORLD would a conscious & sentient NFL GM get rid of, waste, squander, sell down the river a functioning NFL quarterback? A qb proven capable, on the field, of LEADING the Packers to victory, taking command, running when he needs to, and passing within the Pack Offense. A quarterback capable of stepping in and playing to win without ANY dropoff in play. There is no pile of money, no truckoad of draft picks that can magically replace a high-functioning backup quarterback capable of going in COLD and getting it done. NFL franchises & the Packers spend years and years and years, and DOZENS of draft picks hoping to uncover just an average, stable, unremarkable backup quarterback, let alone a really good and LEGIT but undiscovered NFL QB, without much luck. Having FINALLY FOUND a suitable NFL qb who can just step in and play flawlessly
WHY
WHY would we throw all that away. Why. After all that work trying to find Willis, why get rid of him scant weeks after the stupendous and undeserved realization you've got a Live One on your hands. Would you throw Favre overboard b/c you've already got Majik? No? Would you trade Rodgers even though he's proven decent at the position just because you've already got Favre? No? What are you doing trying to dump Malik Willis then? It's incoherent.
You trade the Ty Detmers; you PLAY the Mark Brunells. Favre, Rodgers, Love have all played injured and lost games because of it, proving that level of stupidity never works. Packers' injury rate jumped to epidemic levels last game, it's unavoidable and putting Malik Willis on the field to win games & get Jordan Love healthy as needed is crucial to winning another real title run. Throwing away what you've been trying to find for years, year-in year-out, is at best an impulsive reflex that's incoherent in relation to Packers' intent to build a Lombardi Trophy-worthy roster, dumping Malik Willis for no reason undercuts that goal. Rolling with Michael Pratt or Sean Clifford is not an option. There is no way in hell Gute or LaFleur or Murphy will take the 6 magic beans when Willis is the proven dairy cow who delivers. PAY him. Pay him well. And laugh and laugh at rival GMs drafting QBs #1 and *never developing them* as though buying & selling over-hyped players at the drop of a hat has ever built a winning roster. Willis has proven his mettle in spades, so PAY him and can the self-indulgence.
Malik Willis will not be traded. Not even when the Tundra freezes over.
Bitternotsour
January 22, 2025 at 09:42 am
In a vacuum, perhaps this is true. In the real world with free agency looming in a year, you consider all offers and whether you have the funds to re-sign this promising talent.
Malik Willis might actually want to start. That's a consideration, right? It puts in perspective that if he leaves as a free agent we'd likely receive a third round draft pick in comp, so that is the base line for any discussions. I'd want at least a 2nd and 3rd for him, but I tend to overvalue our own.
nagawicka
January 24, 2025 at 01:42 am
It's true in the real world. Willis is in the catbird seat, w/time to learn in a system proven to produce legacy quarterbacks. What could be better? The 'He wants to start somewhere' mythology is overdone. *Everbody* wants to start, so there's no real point there. He could get paid elsewhere, but 31 other teams are drafting QBs #1-- and Willis just found a home.
A 3rd Rd pick is no good relative to the payoff of the Willis trade; another pick is just a crapshoot, Willis is a proven commodity, in-hand, able to step in and win games. But by all means, take the 6 magic beans, Jack. We didn't clear all that cap space to sit on it.
WinUSA
January 22, 2025 at 02:01 pm
One of the brightest spots of all this season was the absurd (7th Round) STEAL of signing Malik Willis!
The guy can run, pass, and deal with the pressure of coming into a heated substitute situation.
Sure the guy played only 2 1/2 games… but there is NO doubt that he outplayed Love in each moment he was on the field.
Teams would be salivating in a drool bucket to get this guy for a fifth round pick!!!
Talking heads pumped up MLF for a “brilliant game plan!!!
BS…. Gutekunst and management knocked this deal out of the park!!!
Keep the guy is my vote!
CanPackFan
January 22, 2025 at 05:37 pm
A good backup QB is a rarity. And a starting QB who can stay healthy for an entire season is hard to find as well. So why trade a valuable guy like that for a 5 round pick as Greg suggests,?
I remember a good corner we had recently who was traded for a 5th round pick? How did that work out for us? How many fans would still want Rasul around today given our CB room? All of us?
Let's us not forget where we could have been after Love went down in game 1? We do not know how durable Love is going to be long term. Having a good backup QB gives the team a reasonable chance of winning if Love goes down for an extended period of time.
Bottom line - We are NOT sellers at this point, like we thought we were with Rasul a year ago. To trade a promising QB for a 5th Rd pick is not going to strengthen our team now.
Llew
January 23, 2025 at 07:47 am
Greg one of the things teams are learning is with the 17 game schedule, if you consider yourself a contender, you need a backup QB who can run your team for 2 or 3 games. While there are certainly exceptions, most starters won't play the whole season without some kind of injury. So, the only way they trade him is if they saw some serious development in Sean Clifford (we didn't get to see him at all during the season) or they sign a veteran whom they really like. I don't think they're going to trade Willis for a 4th or 5th just to burn a 5th on his successor. Of course, you have the issue that you WILL loose him in '26, but unless you can sign a very capable backup on the free agent market, you have to hang on to him.
The other reason, unfortunately, is that I have this nagging feeling that Love might not be the guy. I hate saying it. Something in the arm, something in the spirit, something in the mental processing, was off. I think we all saw it and no one can really put a finger on it. If, midway through next season, we see the same thing, I think the conversation about Willis will be entirely different. I don't know if you can pay him enough to extend him for one year and forgo the chance to compete for a job somewhere else in '26, but I'd certainly give it a shot.
BFK1
January 23, 2025 at 08:35 am
Why??? Decent/Good backup QB’S don’t grow on trees. If the Packers signed a veteran (not likely) and used a day 3 pick, maybe. BUT…Why create another hole when you need a cover corner and pass rusher on D and a #1 WR and maybe an RB to make a thunder and lightning tandem with JJ!!! Sure let’s fill some holes and create others??? Makes sense?!?!?!? NOT!!!!!!
Also the Packers need to replace the QB coach. Let’s hope they get a good one; it doesn’t matter if it’s from inside or outside the current coaching staff.
Packitin
January 23, 2025 at 09:59 am
My 'price' for Willis would be a 1st-round pick swap that lets is move up high enough to get a top CB (Will Johnson, maybe), Edge (Andre Carter, e.g.), DT (Graham maybe) or WR (McMillian).
Love has not demonstrated Favre's durability, and Willis saved 3 games in 2024, so why let him go cheap?
Rhah
January 24, 2025 at 12:42 am
If someone offered a 3rd for Willis I would say yes. A 4th+, maybe. Anything less, I would pass.
bassrock
January 26, 2025 at 12:51 pm
This won't be popular on here but have an open competition this spring in GB. Watching both qbs play this year has shown the Willis's upside might be higher than Loves. Seems to motivate the team more and his passes though limited were much more where they are suppose to be over Loves who seldom put's the ball where it's suppose to be. Just because you signed Love to a huge contract shouldn't make a difference and might get a fire lit under him also.