If GB decides to make some moves for me it has to come down to what is best for the future, not the present.

While I think we could make a playoff run with this team, I don't see this current team as a super bowl contender. I mean anything can happen, but I see this as a development team to make a run next year. So for me I am looking to add some players but players that are going to help this year and next year. Not just this year. And I'm not really looking to trade anyone away.

If they are looking to trade for someone, a few positions they should look for. RB, DL, S.

I think those are the positions they need the most help with. I find it interesting (unless I missed it) that they haven't resigned Taylor to the PS. I saw a rumor on twitter that the Packers don't plan to bring him back. I'm curious why. But RB is a position that they need for now and the future. If Jones misses more time they need someone that can provide the speed element.

DL isn't a priority, but if they could add a run clogger type of NT, I think that would help a ton. They are missing that type of player on the DL. If they could add a run stuffer for a 7th round pick, I say go for it.

One of the biggest needs is S. While Ford has played ok, and Savage is playing much better, if they could upgrade, they should.

As for players that they could look to trade. I don't think they would trade anyone away. But who are some names that may surprise people. These are a couple of guys that I think could be dealt if they had the right offer.

I have no idea when Tenuta will be available to play, but would they consider trading Yosh? They have yet to use him, instead have went with Walker over him. They have Jones and if Tenuta is coming off IR soon, they maybe would consider trading Yosh?

With Stokes coming off the PUP, and with Valentine looking good and Balentine playing pretty well coming off the PS, would they consider trading Nixon? Alexander and Douglas are imo untouchable players. But would they consider trading Nixon if they got what they wanted or more in return? Also as a returner Nixon hasn't done much this year, and Reed can be the returner.

Stand pat. They can't coach & develop this young, talented team now. How in the hell can they get any scratch ' dent player off the scrape heap up to speed?

Is trading coaches allowed?

There is a 4th option...

#4...Stand pat and CLEAN HOUSE at the end of the season. I honestly believe if he was to try and trade for one of those "Stars" like Higgins or Jeremy Chin, do you really think they'd stay past their current contracts with THAT coaching staff?

Whether or not Gutey is part of the Packers future or not, I don't think he's going anywhere before Murphy retires. With this coaching staff I think that's a different story. This team just lost to the Raiders, got their ass kicked in every direction by the Lions, won a game they should have lost beating New Orleans, and lost a game they should have won when they blew it against Atlanta, and the Bears...Gimmie a break...They SUCK!

Looking at the schedule and being HONEST with myself which can be difficult because I HATE to admit when the Packers STINK. But stink they do. Downvote it all you want but I'm concerned if they can even win another 4 games to put them at 6-11. I have NO FAITH in LaFleur, less in Joe Barry.

Stand pat, get your ducks in a row, and make a run at the next Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers at the end of the season.

Everyone knew this was going to be a transitional year for the Packers. Get younger, develop players, get the cap fixed and evaluate the QB position. I don't see Gute trying to "rescue" this team with an infusion of veteran talent. That ship sailed with the trade of Rodgers. Unless another team is willing to pay an outrageous price for one of the Packer players (highly unlikely) then "selling" is not an option. Ride out the year, evaluate and get ready for 2024.

If we are really lucky, part of that evaluation will result in a new coaching staff, but I am not holding my breath since that decision rests with Murphy, not Gute.

Stand pat unless you can add to the IOL or a surprise OT / guard / DL drops in their lap. Unless they figure out the lines and depth (Newman???) it doesn't matter.

Coaching: I think they need to trade Butkus to the Bears, because it feels like he's submarining the O-line room for them.

This isn't MLB where a lack of a hard cap and floor creates real financial haves and have nots. Teams like the Brewers will never be able to keep their pitching staff intact because of the ridiculous salaries and term of contract these guys demand...so they'll sell off a piece at a time as they start to emerge from team control and hope they can replenish through their farm system. This isn't the NBA where one player can completely turn the fortunes of a team around right out of the gate.

I think people bring an MLB/NBA mindset to the trade deadline, and some have been saying: trade anyone you can get a pick for! Reset to zero!...but it takes a lot of players to make a good team. This team isn't devoid of talent and they need to retain most of those pieces. And, of course, who's healthy enough to have put together a body of work in 2023 (and a likelihood of availability going forward) that someone would pay something to the Packers to rent that guy? The list is pretty short.

So the question becomes, "who is reasonable trade fodder based on age, contract (and cap implications of a trade), and likely future with the team?" This needs to be a brutally honest assessment--proven players tend to be worth more than lottery ticket picks, which is why trade activity in the NFL is way up in recent years. We can't kid ourselves that just compiling a ton of draft picks is a goal. We get enamored with lottery tickets, and we've seen over the years that picks alone don't breed success.

As far as being buyers, goes, established players are worth more than picks. They might find a player out there who's blocked by a really good player on another team and needs a break, or someone who is finishing their rookie deal and will need a resign that another team isn't willing or able to give. You have to ask yourself what you're buying, why it's available, how it fits under your cap (big issue for the Packers), and whether dealing the pick nets you a guy who fits into the next window?

I don't see any moves which will help the Packers become playoff contenders. If they do anything they should try to acquire picks for the next draft. Keep building towards 2025 when their salary cap issues will be behind them.

Use this season to give the Love and the young skill players as many snaps as possible. Then see where they're at after a full season of playing in the NFL. Adding players via trades will take snaps away from the young players and in the end cost draft and probably salary capital. For what purpose?

Stand pat and see if the team can pull itself together and improve over the course of the season. Hopefully stack some success to build off of for next season. See if the current coaching staff can accomplish anything with the current roster. If not, maybe the changes that need to made should be begin with them.
Thanks, Since '61

An offensive lineman, last year of his rookie deal (26 or so), who has demonstrated he’s an improvement over Newman.

I think, if anything, the Packers should be minimal sellers if they can make their future look brighter.

I did not see in the article where they should consider trading Preston Smith. I would think that could be a logical move given the number of Edge rushers we have on staff. That seems to be a pretty deep position for us. I think he has played well for us but is he signed for next year and would the cap savings make this a good move?

Since Ted Thompson the Packers have been an organization of compromise and status quo. The lack of leadership and definition has us in limbo. We gave out all the big contracts to guys that were not going to take us into the future and didn't want to acknowledge that "it was time". Call it honestly - call it a rebuild and get it done.

Let's not wait around for Bakhtiari's knee to improve, Myer to turn into a center, Royce Newman to become a guard and all the things that this O-line is banking on to become Jordan Love's foundation. Build the line with the next two drafts and a good FA or two. Do the same to the D-line while you are at it.

See what this coaching staff can demonstrate this season and make the call if they can't teach the talent that we have.

Now is not the time to buy someone else's problem.

+1 for the "aforementioned", Ken.

Gute should sit tight, stand pat, and let 'er ride even if Crazy Hi-Fi Kenny (not to be confused with Crazy TV Lenny) says he has a million dollars in car stereo alone *and* everything must go before midnight tomorrow.

Stand pat, but sell older player or two if asking price is met,other than that look toward 24 draft . If our draft status stays close to where we are now( 9th) I’d like to see them draft one of the three top tackles -my fav is jc Latham instant Starter at RT ( move Tom to center or LT if needed ) than with first second rd pick either cooper beebe or zac zinter for right guard instant upgrade to right side than second 2 pick best safety available - my fave there is cole bishop or Andrew makuba than in third best RB still there Shipley would be him if still there than another guard or tackle for depth Fixes many problems defense had enough high picks just needs new DC use the draft to fix Oline and plug a few holes if line play gets better the whole team gets better - just my thoughts

So here we are....
Wondering what to make of this team.
Wondering what to make of Gute, this coaching staff.

Wondering why we went through the past 3 plus seasons of drama...FOR...in Gutes words "......moves made in the best interest of the Green Bay Packers.
(Read into that what you may.)
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Ok..Buy?
For what exactly? Buy for what objective?
Maybe making the playoffs?
I say absolutely not!!
Don't spend resources trying to make a sub .500 team, a 8 or 9 win team.
Getting players cost resources. Has this team used it's resources well so far?
I don't want to hear about getting a veteran receiver now. That should have been addressed last March.
We don't need another Sammy Watkins or Devin Funchess.
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Sell?
Now were getting warmer.
We have to keep Watson and Doubs, and Musgrave because, who else do we have?
Tucker Kraft isn't going anywhere because nobody would want him. Maybe on a practice squad i guess, which is exactly where he belongs right now.
What about dealing our 52 million dollar edge rusher?
Preston Smith's 2nd contract boggled my mind.
He makes a play every 4th or 5th game, is horrible in coverage, but is somehow getting rich courtesy of the Packers.
PFF has him at a low average starting edge rusher over his career
He just got his first sack of the season and he starts dancing and posing like he just sacked the QB for a Super Bowl win. Gimme a break.
We can't find better than Preston Smith for 12 million/year? Thanks Murphy/Gute/Ball!! TEAMWORK!
Deal him, and play our 13th pick of the draft.
Haven't we had enough 1st round picks sitting on the bench?

Forget whether to stand pat.
The question should be....with all this talent i hear the Packers having, why is this a sub .500 against one of the cushiest schedules in the NFL?
The Jets had a hellish schedule their first 6 games, and they are 3-3. Under Zach freaking Wilson!!

Someone, somebody, some people, on the Packers board, needs to evaluate where this team is, how this team has been run, how the resources were used, how effective the strategy and philosophy of this team under Murphy/Gute has been, where it is going.

Am i the only who doesn't see the upside in the Murphy/Gute era?

I have no doubt that Joe Barry will be the fall guy after the season.
The beat will go on until Murphy's forced retirement.
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Afterthought.....
Can we draft an offensive skill player in the 1st round (and play him right away) sometime this decade?

I don't see how Tucker Kraft would move the needle in a trade for Chase Young. Eric Stokes maybe, but he's working his way back from two leg injuries, so I doubt that he has any real trade value either.

I agree with Ken's main point though. The Packers should stand pat.

I love the Pack. Always have, always will. But the first thing I thought of when I read the title was a quote from the movie, As Good as it Gets.

Jack Nicholson opens the door and says, "Sell crazy someplace else, we are all stocked up here".

I want to see how the team and coaching staff responds and executes the rest of the season. I sure hope we have the courage to make changes if they are warranted.

This will all play out...

I ain't folding my,

Pantz

Obviously stand pat because it's a development year.
They don't have the assets to fix the team, as they would need top 5 players at about 5 positions to do so while the young players develop (they'd need 2 on the OL alone, a RB, and probably some help on the DL and S).

So, if they do make any trades it should ONLY be for the purpose of getting rid of older and more expensive players in order to stockpile draft picks. It's probably the end of the road for Aaron Jones if that's the case, and maybe a guy like Preston Smith. There are probably a few others who could go due to age--but not a Kenny Clark, like Freddy Boston suggested in his recent article about 5 Packers who should be traded--and most are productive players who might garner at least 2nd round picks next year.

If the Pack had 4 or 5 second rounders, they could gain quite a few talented players, or package several of those picks with lower ones to move up into having a few 1st rounders.

That's the best strategy. Unless we turn it around and show signs of contending.

Move Savage , Watson (if the price is Right) and
Dillion.

I think the whole mode for the year is stand pat and let a young team mature. What is becoming obvious is the team lacks depth in many positions but mortgaging the future to improve an 8-8 team is pointless.

Several veterans will be gone next year. The salary cap will again be tight in 2024 even with the cuts. The best they can do is bring in some good rookies who can step in. Drafting a left tackle should be a priority.
They could lose both running backs next year. They still need a safety. I see what the Lions have in Brian Branch at safety and I grind my teeth. Branch should be a Packer. I could go on.

I would not put out of the realm of possibility the idea of selecting a QB #1. Love is signed through 2024 but if a starter falls to them in the 8-10 range where they will likely draft, QB would be a good choice. That gives them much flexibility at the QB post.

Buy, Sell, Stand Pat?

All the scenarios pondered, advised, sanctioned, demanded here by so many, will all be forgotten with a win over the Broncos, if that actually happens. The first words out of most will be, 'See, this team is on the right path and are good to go as is.'. There is nothing worse than beating a presumed worse team, and use it to deny what will still be the issues of known hindrance.

What move(s) can be made at the deadline that will be a real viable asset for this year, and still be around next year when needed most? A player fitting that will likely be a FA next year and likely won't want to be in GB, unless the FO over pays for him to stay, as they have done already, too many times.

Rodgers was right, GB is not a priority destination, for vacationers or players. The mix of FO, HC, and QB are not attractions a vacationer wants to overpay for, nor a blue-chip player want to take a salary cut for. Don't be surprised of the money Gary will want to stay if this team doesn't get right quickly this season. It isn't a forgone conclusion that he stays, it always comes down to money and where is always second to it. This team, and FO has not done what it takes for high-quality players to flock here, we have chased some away though, quite successfully.

Ken, the last time we made roster moves to sooth the heart, mind of qb1 was a lesson in how NOT to run an organization.
Thus, weighing whether roster moves may be "harmful to the confidence of his inexperienced starting quarterback" should be the absolute least of our GM's worries.
jl10 is an adult and a handsomely paid professional.
If he's too weak to take subtle criticism, I don't want him as our qb. This team needs to be tougher, not treated like adolescents with fragile egos.
suck it up and play better or you're out!
Suck it up and coach better or you're out.
NotForLong is the rule for a reason.
GPG!

With so many young players, it's hard to imagine there is much to sell? And with there being no cap room for any meaningful short term additions, I can't believe we will be a buyer either.

And while standing pat is the easy way to go, I hope Gutes looks at some changes? For instance, we are now seeing Campbell having significant injury time since signing his big contract. Maybe he would be a logical trade candidate? Dillon for sure. Maybe Jones but we need at least one decent RB, so this would be highly questionable.

Bakh should be gone at the end of this season
A $40mil hit next season would suicidal financially with the risk that he could still miss more time. What else is there?

The Packers without Aaron Jones are like the forty Niners without McCaffery. No running game and no RB threat to catch passes off the line or out of the backfield. If he doesn't return soon the Packers may not win another game. He just makes the entire offense look better. Next year address OL and RB early. For defense consider a different D-coach. There will be plenty of time to make a decision at the end of the season after a full assessment. Remember it is the direction of progress that matters most.. It is still early

I think we need to remember it's an EVALUATION year. But how can you evaluate Love when the offensive roster is a dumpster fire??

If there was a serviceable LT, C, or G - I'd see what we can do just to have the ability to decide whether to give Love another few years.

Right now - it's the worst case scenario.
A year where we don't know what we have in Love at the end.

What a waste.

I’m in favor of riding it out. If we play well enough to fight for a wild card in a unpredictable NFC that’s a bonus.
I think he should be looking even more at the coaching staff to see if it is the right one to guide this young team into the future.
I’m not sure it is.

This season is a "Take your medicine" year to recouperate from years of salary cap shenanigans. The worst thing they can do now would be to get rid of any young guys or draft picks for a band-aid veteran. I agree with previous commenters that this should be an evaluation year. However, that means playing your young guys and actually evaluating them. Lucas VanNess cannot be evaluated sitting on the bench or covering punts. Get the future players in the game and see exactly what they can do. It would also prove if the coaching staff has the ability to actually coach, teach and motivate.

Two problems: the pack have no one any other team desires. Second, the packs cookie jar is empty, Rodgers cleaned it out.
Thus were stuck with our superb oline, running backs, run stoppers and qb''s.