The Packers Must Choose What Position To Address First in the 2025 NFL Draft

Green Bay Packers GM Brian Gutekunst has tough choices to make at the 2025 NFL Draft. The team has definite needs to fill if they hope to go from a playoff team to a true Super Bowl contender. But because of the way the talent and depth of this draft falls, they may not be able to address these areas to make an immediate impact on the team this season.

One area of need is improving the pass rush from the front four. No Packers lineman had more than Rashan Gary’s 7.5 sacks. While the Packers did finish seventh in the league in sacks, defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley had to resort to blitzes far more often than he liked to get that pressure. He gets credit for adjusting but would rather rely on the front four more often to get pressure on quarterbacks.

The issue is that most elite edge rushers are selected in the first round of the draft. After that, most players that have the tools you need to consistently beat offensive tackles and get to the quarterback are off the board.

If Gutekunst wants to add run-stuffing defensive tackles, he can get plenty of them on day three of the draft. But to get a difference making pass rusher, he will need to address the position early.

The Packers are still hoping 2023 first-round pick Lukas Van Ness has a breakout season in his third pro campaign. Brenton Cox could take a step forward as well. But the Packers cannot rely solely on those two players plus Gary and Kingsley Enagbare to improve the pass rush. So, expect Gutekunst to address edge rusher early if he can. There are several candidates who can help the team if they’re still on the board at 23. But will they be there and will Gutekunst make edge rusher his top priority?

Another area the team needs to address early is wide receiver. It’s not that the team is without talent here. But as Josh Jacobs said repeatedly during Super Bowl week, the team lacks a go-to receiver, a bona fide number one wideout they can trust. They truly haven’t had one since they traded Davante Adams after the 2021 season.

The team also knows they will be without Christian Watson for at least the first half of the 2025 season as he rehabs from knee surgery. Watson was the closest thing the team had to a potential number one receiver, but he suffered a torn ACL in the season finale against Chicago.

The Packers have depth here. Right now, the team has a solid slot receiver in Jayden Reed, a mid-range wideout in Romeo Doubs, and a player who still has some potential upside in Dontayvion Wicks. Bo Melton, Mecole Hardman, and Malik Heath provide the team with experienced depth.

So, drafting a receiver in the middle or late rounds of the draft will not likely give the team an impact receiver who can make a difference right away.

This year’s draft only has a handful of receivers who even fit the Packers typical athletic and size requirements and who may make that kind of an impact. The draft class is not very deep at receiver and like edge rusher, to get an impact player, you have to strike early.

The Packers have not selected a wide receiver in the first round of the NFL Draft since they added Javon Walker back in 2002.

Gutekunst said this was not because the team doesn’t think wideout is a premium position and that he is not averse to using a first-round pick on a wide receiver. In fact, he was allegedly trying to trade up for a wide receiver in the first round of the 2020 draft, but the players the Packers wanted were off the board. The Pack selected quarterback Jordan Love instead.

Of course, the Packers can still acquire an impact edge rusher or receiver via trade either at or after the draft. But if the urgency to contend for a Super Bowl exists now, the team has some tough choices to make if they want to add that impact player at edge rusher or wide receiver or some other postion of need.

 

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GregC's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:12 am

How many 53-man roster spots do the Packers need to fill in this draft? Not many. I'm thinking they need a minimum of one WR, one offensive lineman, one defensive tackle, and two CBs. That's only five, and they have eight picks. What they need is a few impact players, not a bunch of players to fill out the roster. So the first three or four rounds are crucial. And where do they need the impact, more than any other position? Wide receiver.

The good news is that the more I look at the receivers available in this draft, the better I feel about the Packers' opportunity to draft one who makes an impact. Not counting Travis Hunter, there are about ten receivers who look to me like they have the potential to be difference-makers as rookies. I still think the sooner they get one, the better, but if the Packers have a few of them rated higher than other teams do, they may be able to wait as long as the third round to pick one. I still think the second round is probably the best place to get one though, and I wouldn't complain if they took one in the first round.

Beyond that, the DT pick is the most important, and this is a good year to get one. If a great DE falls into their lap in the first round, maybe they can take him, but I'm all about DT and WR.

Here are the WRs who I think at least have the potential to be difference makers, listed in order, and again not counting Travis Hunter:

Tetairoa McMillan, Emeka Egbuka, Matthew Golden, Luther Burden, Jayden Higgins, Jack Becht, Tre Harris, Jalen Royals, and Tory Horton.

There is a caveat with a couple of the smaller ones--Golden and Burden--which is that Matt Lafleur may have to change the offense a little to accommodate for them not being good blockers.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 01:06 pm

Needs now: Size/Speed threat X WR. Run stuffing DT, Speed/Agility DE. Blocking TE.

- Available in middle and later rounds (late for TE) but the best DEs will go early.

Depth/future Needs: Penetrating DT. CB, Z WR. OL.

- Penetrating DT will go early. Z WR anything from first to 4th if we want ready now. CBs, round 3 on has the best value (excluding ones unlikely to fall). OL, mid late rounds for a G, some good mid round T depth to develop but possible early outlier.

From that I conclude, based upon the need priority and draft class, that the Ideal priority is

1) DE, DT (with pentration ability), Z WR as the top tier.

2) X WR, CB, OL as the next tier.

3) Blocking TE, run stuffing DT and thats what we currently have in terms of picks.

Obviously that likely won’t match what falls exactly and their might be an outlier too good to pass on, as well as a potential to acquire another pick. However, that’s roughly what I believe we need to come out with and the rough order of sweet spot in general in this draft.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 01:48 pm

Here's what a Chief's writer pushing Jalen Royals for the Chiefs said about him:

"Muscular build w/ X-WR traits. Big play threat both as a vertical WR & YAC. Fantastic explosion out of breaks & strong deceleration into breaks to create separation. Strong hand fighter at route stem/catch point w/ great tracking ability. +++ YAC"

My worry is the four teams picking in front of the Packers in the 2nd gave WR needs. If Gutey feels the need to move ahead of them I hope it's not too far and it's for Royals. He played in an option offense in high school and at the community college he went to before Utah State so basically has been playing modern WR for three years. Steve Smith has him 5th on his rankings ahead of Harris and Higgins(he has Higgins 8th). He said Utah State's QB hung him out to dry too often and the WRs coach wasn't great either and yet he was still producing at a high level. Fits a need and has WR1 upside.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 04:33 pm

Well, we could get an offer to move back and take him and an extra pick. Alternatively we could take another combination. As much as I like Royals, he’s not close to my first choice as a vertical threat.

He’s a Z body (6’ 205 pounds) but his route running is so limited he’s posited as an X. He’s not a good blocker at all. He will struggle to beat the much more physical press he never faced in the Mountain West. His speed is very good, but that gap too will close and he’s not a big guy running 4.42.

To me he’s a Z long term, but one who needs a lot of refinement to unlock undoubted ability and who doesn’t have great agility. I think he’s being over drafted. I’d love him in the 4th to develop, but he’s not ready to stand in for Doubs or a size/speed threat.

His hands are definitely good and he can certainly highpoint. He’d be a great player to have for the future and develop, but he’s not close to the best solution now at Z or X B as I see it.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 13, 2025 at 01:36 am

Not agile? Have you watched him play? His shiftiness is one of his main strengths. I think he can be an X and with a 1.49 10 yard split once he catches a couple long balls there won't be much press in his future. He also when he ran the 4.42 he wasn't at 100%, supposedly ran in the high 4.2s in '23.

Think I'll trust Steve Smith on this one.

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BuckyBadger's picture

April 13, 2025 at 10:12 am

If they want to compete for a title they need to improve the 53 man roster almost across the board. This team finished 3rd last year and was bounced from the playoffs looking like a team that didn't belong.

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beerandbrats's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:17 am

There are a lot of 6' 200lb athletes in the draft every year. Drafting the athletic big bodies early makes sense because there simply aren't as many of them. We may never agree on drafting a WR in the first round but I think we all agree that our defensive line needs to be re-tooled. Everybody drafted for our d-line was drafted for the 3-4 defense.

The 3-4 defense uses 3 DTs.
The 4-3 defense only uses 2 DTs.

My question is, what is the difference for those DTs now that we switched to a 4 man front? How do you know if a guy is a better fit for the 3-4 or 4-3? Does the type of defense you play matter when drafting DTs or is their job basically the same in either defense?

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GregC's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:37 pm

Those are good questions, and I'm not the one to answer them. For now I will just say that the differences are not as great as they used to be, due to NFL defenses using multiple alignments during the course of any game and being in nickel or dime in obvious passing situations, which is neither a 3-4 or a 4-3.

It used to be that 3-4 OLBs needed to be more agile than 4-3 DEs, because they had to drop into pass coverage sometimes, but I don't think that's even true anymore. Some 4-3 DEs are relatively small nowadays and there are some big bruisers playing OLB in 3-4 alignments. Reggie White was a 300-pound DE in a 4-3 defense, but you never see that anymore. 4-3 DEs tend to be lighter than they were 20 or 30 years ago, due to the need to have speedy defenders to protect the edge. 4-3 linebackers and the inside linebackers in a 3-4 defense tend to be lighter as well, due to the increased need for speed on defense. Bigger, slower-moving players will get exploited by the opposing offense's short passing game. DTs are bigger than ever, though, regardless of which type of defense you are running.

I think our personnel are fine for running Hafley's 4-3 defense. Any difficulties they had were more a result of having to play a different way rather than not being physically suited to the 4-3. They will be more used to it now, so we should see some improvement from within.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:00 pm

3-4 teams are playing base around 30% of the time and probably mainly in situations where they think the offense is going to run it. Then how often out of the remaining snaps are you going to rush all five? Also how often will you have your best rusher drop into coverage? TJ Watt is probably the most extreme example but he dropped into coverage roughly 30 times last year, was targeted 5 times and gave up 5 completions. So maybe the other OLB dropped into coverage 5 times a game?

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 04:43 pm

If the Packers personnel are suited to a 4:3 even in base, then it’s a very different 4:3 than almost anyone else employs. All but Moseby and Cox are prototypical 3:4 edge types physically and all are also power/bull rushers. Even Cox, although smaller, is a straight line power guy primarily. Out of base that makes some sense, in run heavy situations particularly . In base, not so much.

Before last year many assumed we would need to change. I saw nothing last year that suggests otherwise. In fact, Cox’s success as a slightly different type, albeit in a small sample, could be read as emphasizing the need to be less homogenous and more flexible.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 12, 2025 at 05:03 pm

Yeah
I’m more on board with edge rushers…well, rushing. Dropping to cover is a nice parlor trick, but certainly not first on the agenda.

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GregC's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:25 pm

Okay Mr. Downvoter, what is it that you don't like about my post? Did I get something wrong? Please enlighten us.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 04:43 pm

Perhaps they disagreed with you and felt others have already addressed why?

At least they likely read you. If you aren’t getting down voted you are not saying anything worth saying most of the time in my view.

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GregC's picture

April 12, 2025 at 06:35 pm

No, the downvote was before anyone commented. I appreciate your comments though.

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Coldworld's picture

April 13, 2025 at 09:25 am

lol. Well then I could guess, but it’s not worth the effort. Just means you are a fully fledged poster here. Welcome.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 12, 2025 at 05:04 pm

Haters gonna hate
Liars gonna lie
Downers gonna down (their sorrows)

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dobber's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:18 am

Let the draft come to you. I'm sure that the braintrust has mapped out more scenarios than we can fathom through this draft. If not, they don't belong in their positions.

Saying "we need to draft this position at 23" is how you overdraft that slot.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:28 am

"The draft class is not very deep at receiver ... to get an impact player, you have to strike early." I couldn't disagree more with this take.

This WR draft is WEAK AT THE TOP. Its DEPTH is fine; in fact maybe even above-average.

Guys like Ayomanor, Harris, Thornton, TeSlaa, Gadsen, Felton, Prather, Nash, McCoy, Brooks, Bryant, Horton, and Felton would ALL be a solid addition to our current WR room.

On the other hand, the top group lacks a single guy that really impresses me as worthy of a first-round grade, and that includes McMillan, Hunter, and Egbuka. There's no way I pick any of those guys over one of the top DTs, EDs, LBs, CBs, or OL.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:34 am

If you think any of those guys is going to come in, play 17 games, and improve our offense enough to not only replace Watson but also make our offense more powerful than last year, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Get the defense. You must like those 13-10 playoff losses?

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:31 pm

I believe that there are ready-to-play size speed threats later in this draft. There are also some good versatile options outside round one for Z/Slot moveable pieces. Many of those can contribute now if required.

With Reed/Melton at slot, the need other than X is for Z coverage initially. The draft is rich in them. It’ is not Egbuka, McMillan or bust, no matter how often you wail that it is.

The WRs already have a better chance as we’ve shed the weakest link on the OL that you so long defended. Maybe that will help LaFleur’s ridiculously deep ball passing O. We need a true size/speed threat to pair with Wicks at X and depth at Z. Neither need be first round picks in this draft.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:32 am

Obviously, we should draft a defensive player, because our defense fails us every year. 13 points to SF. 20 to the Lions. 24 to SF. 22 to the Eagles.

Sheeesh.

If Egbuka is on the board at at our pick, he should be the guy selected. These mock drafts that have us getting a DT and a DE before picking up a WR in the 3rd will have us going home early in the playoffs after another low scoring playoff loss.

Furthermore, the draft is about the future. The guys we draft this year will be with us for 4 years....the Jordan Love window. If we haven't won a Super Bowl by then, we're going to have a new coach and a new QB. We should be getting guys on the offensive side of the ball who can help us score points and win games.

WR, WR, OL, TE.......that's what we should be adding to the 21 guys we dress on offense.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:08 am

How many points do you think they would have scored if the Eagles had four turnovers and the Packers had none? Basically you're pointing out that Love needs to clean his play up and they will score more points.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:12 am

Oh, so that's the solution. We don't need better players on offense, we just need Love to play better.

But on defense, we need better players.

PLEASE do not comment on my posts, and I'll ignore yours. I think you are a fool..

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:10 pm

I'll comment whenever and wherever I want. When you say things like Amari Rodgers is going to be the 4th WR over Doubs because he was drafted in 3rd round and Doubs in the 4th you deserve to be called out. Say dumb things win dumb prizes.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2025 at 06:30 pm

Dude....you want to argue over shit that happened two years ago, that you can't remember straight. That's how freakin' desperate you are to be right about something.

Rodgers was drafted a year ahead of Doubs. He wasn't a rookie. I don't think a Day 3 rookie moves ahead of a guy who has already been around the block once just because he looked good in shorts.

Eventually, Doubs DID move ahead of Rodgers, and Rodgers was released. But it didn't happen in training camp.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 13, 2025 at 01:58 am

What you say I said changes almost every time I bring it up!🤣🤣🤣 For one thing I said after the draft and before minicamp that he would be WR4 and you argued about it. I didn't give any stars I thought he'd achieve, just that he'd be more productive than Rodgers at the end of the year. Just by watching film of Doubs at Nevada I could tell he was a better all around receiver than Rodgers showed as a rookie.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 12, 2025 at 07:12 pm

At this time of year I don't visit the site that often. But when I do, whether it's after 2 days, a week, whatever, one thing never changes. Leatherhead is arguing with someone, telling them how stupid they are, telling them what they can and can't comment on.

I guess because he lives on this site 7 days a week, posting 20 times a day, it makes him smarter than others. No, just weirdly obsessed with a football team that doesn't even know he exists.

Maybe get a hobby?

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Lphill's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:34 am

Brenton Cox at one point was a projected first round pick the more snaps he gets the more sacks he will have when you rotate 4 or 5 guys I think that diminishes their production.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:35 am

No,we have to draft a DE so that we can cut Cox , or a DT so we can cut Wooden. The notion that we should draft players to fill holes is crazy.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:34 pm

Cox isn’t getting cut. One of the others may be. That’s the price of getting better individually and through diversifying threat and this matchup options. Not everyone on the Packers is impossible to improve upon simply by virtue of being a Packer.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:41 am

DL, CB, WR, OL with the first 4 selections, hopefully in that order of priority. If not, at least draft those four positions before any other.

This draft class, while not loaded with stars, has its best depth at DL and OL. Decent depth at CB and WR. It actually lines up well for the Packers. Tactical fit to find a starter or two and important depth for '25...and strategic depth for the next off season to assist with big decisions on veterans.

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NickPerry's picture

April 12, 2025 at 10:51 am

I'm hoping for more "Football Players" picked by Gutekunst this year OTHER than the guy with a high RAS score and hardly any production during his entire college career.

I don't give a flying f##k what the guy ran, jumped, or shuttled while wearing those spandex garments they'll NEVER wear on Sundays. Gary, Van Ness, and Walker are just a few of those guys and I think we can all agree those aren't what you hope for.

Nope give me the Football Player EVERY time please...

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:07 am

Get a different guy making the selections, not complicated.

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Oxymoron 3339's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:23 pm

Amen

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:18 am

You do realize that most All Pro players are also great athletes right? Don't draft Charles Woodson because he's one of the most athletic CBs ever? Testing makes it easier to project a players ability to play in the NFL and what their weaknesses are. Obviously it's taken in context of what they do on the field. You can say you wish Gutey would take guys with great athleticism AND great production but it doesn't make sense to say I'd rather have less athletic players.

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lou's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:26 am

I couldn't agree more. For those of you that remember when Paul Hornung did color commentary for the exhibition games years ago many times he would say in reference to 40 times or bench press totals, "all I want to know is can he play football". A great example of can he play football was Micah Hyde, forget his RAS score, he had good all around ability and SUPERIOR instincts.

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gsd3's picture

April 14, 2025 at 09:57 am

Well said.

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splitpea1's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:08 am

This one is easy. Assuming a top ten prospect of a less urgent position falls dramatically for no apparent reason, take the WR, DT, or edge with the greatest chance of starting and making an impact in their rookie season. Keep CB on the radar as well, but it's probably best to wait until later rounds. Do not under any circumstances take another prospect in the first round that takes at least three years to develop.

One other note: When drafting OLs later, pay attention to the prospect's floor so we're not in a pickle when we need to turn to depth. With the signing of A. Banks, someone got pushed to depth anyway, but still, the fact that Monk couldn't even get on the field in a dire situation was a little surprising... Or maybe we can pick up a proven veteran after the cuts so we don't have to worry.

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Turophile's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:24 am

We all know there are 4 positions most in need of an upgrade. WR, Edge, DT, CB.
So, get ready for an OT or an ILB :-) ........and if he DOES get one of this years big 4 positions of need, it won't be the guy you want or expect. THAT is my experience over many years of following the Packers.

Don't get me wrong, the Packers do alright in the draft, just not what most expect.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:25 am

DT. Drafts don't come along very often where you have talent like Harmon, Nolen and Grant possibly still being there at 23. In fact the DT classes have been weak since 2019 and that class was top heavy with only three DTs taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

This class is deep but even so the options for a penetrating 3T that's decent at the pass and run drop off fast. Strike while the iron is hot. It also pays to remember if they pick up Wyatt's 5th year option he will be 28 at the end of the '26 seasons, soon to be 29. Will they want to give him a 4 year deal at that point? Milton Williams isn't a good run defender at all, wasn't a starter for the Eagles and got a $100 million contract this year. That's a good example of how few truly good pass rushing 3Ts there are. When the demand is high you take advantage of the supply when it's there.

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Turophile's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:40 am

..............or (playing Devil's advocate) get a DT that can do one thing really well in a later round, like excellent run stoppers Alfred Collins, Tyleik Williams, J.J.Pegues - or guys with some pass rush that come in rounds 2-3 like T.J.Sanders, Norman-Lott, Darius Alexander,

I would be very happy with Grant or Nolen or (probably best of all), Harmon in round one, but equally, I'd be ok with a top WR like Egbuka or Burden........or maybe a move back and get an Edge like Scourton or Williams. Then there are the CBs, Barron, Revel, Morrison. Really, its all about what flavour do you like best, at 23.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:37 pm

Out of 70 offensive plays a game how often are they strictly running or passing down? On average there's probably 12-15 passing situations and a half a dozen running situations. Now on the other 50 plays do you want a guy on the field that's bad at one of them?

BTW TJ Sanders has 24 run stops in 221 run D snaps. He's one of the ones I said there aren't many of. Norman-Lott only played 83 run D snaps but had 9 run stops. Neither of those guys are one dimensional. After them it's Ty Robinson and that's about it for guys that are decent at both run and pass. That's why I'm hoping for Walter Nolen but would settle for Kenneth Grant. Harmon's 27% missed tackle rate scares the hell out of me.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2025 at 11:46 am

Tough choices to Definite needs to fill.
IMO - if that is the argument. Then trade Down.

Free Agency was suppose to bring immediate impact.
Draft Value, is about hope.

I get what Gute has to address.
But relying on one pick, one player,
has never brought a team to the super-bowl.
(And you should know that after our MVP Qbs.)

Instead of concentrating on the NEEDS.
Concentrate on who gives us a advantage.
Because if Hafley’s adjusting, brought us success.
It isn’t broken. THE THINKING IS make it stronger!

Gute drafted his pass rushers.
Either they're the problem.
Or Gute is. Are they broken?
THE OBVIOUS IS NOT YET.

The player drafted; must give the position
a advantage.
Against those, who are against us.
Difference makers will start!
Investing in something with No potential
for improvement, is a waste of resources.
And I don’t see it as a priority.

What I do see is a priority who got hurt.
And Nobody is around to take Watson’s place.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:25 pm

The first Two rounds have to secure guys who can contribute something for the cause, not work the bench, or IR.
Does any one have confidence in the Brain Trust after Eight Years?
#34 Nic Scourton DE Purdue/A&M
#54 Tate Rutledge OG Georgia. ( Just say no to Telfort/Glover).
#65 Jack Sawyer LB OSU ( he will not fall).
#87 T. Ferguson TE Oregon
#124 Restrepo WR Miami ( get open, catches the ball)
#159 Ricky White WR UNLV ( send him deep).
#198 Ty Robinson DE Nebraska
#219 Dalton Cooper OT OK State ( He will go 3rd-4th )
#221 Jeffery Bassa LB Oregon ( Cover LB)
#250 Stackhouse DT Georgia ( NT, big fronts)
Will Hafley replace LaFleur in 2026?

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2025 at 08:38 pm

I still don't see Gute trading back.
You have Scourton Try James Pearce Jr. First.
They did bring him in.
Next is the Love affair for Jayden Higgins WR.
I'd take Tre Harris, If they do really take Pearce.
And Tate isn't the guy on OL.
Anthony Belton Ot. Is.
And keep Thornton in mind later.
They had to be at the Tenn pro day.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2025 at 08:51 am

Pearce is a string bean, 3-4 guy off the edge with a speed. rush. Can he hold point and protect against the counter? Verse has 20 lbs over this guy. Les Snead just dominating his last two drafts, hitting on Verse, the DROY and Fiske in 2024, to accompany Byron Young and Kobie Turner. Both of these guys snagged rd three. 45.5 sacks produced in two years from this group. Maybe study his formula.
I liked Scouton at Purdue, All-BigTen. Farmer is a consideration for a penetrating style DT in round two. . FSU with the top defense in 2023. Harris from a Pro offense that Kiffin runs and his QB should go by Rd Two. Milum was gone by #49,
Rutledge would beat out Rhyan. Belton with a lot of girth who is not a wide-zone guy and gets lost in the stunt game. Thornton another one-year wonder and I do not trust Tennessee WRs to get better. I'll take Kyle Williams, or Royals for the speed guy. The deal is, LaFleur's direction of the passing attack has to improve. Get the ball to the Playmakers. 3rd and short is not a play for the deep ball, move the chains.
Restrepo gets open. Belichick knows this type of guy. He used Wes Welker, Edelman, Danny Amendola and Troy Brown to slice the zones apart and get the first downs Move the ball to the Red Zone. Play to Win, not show.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:52 pm

LOL! Is anybody saving Stocky's most bizarre rants? I'm not sure this one is top 10 but it's way up there!

Let the Difference Makers be Against Those that are Against US!!!

Can I get that in a T-shirt? Then when people inquire about it I can say "don't ask" and leave them wondering like most of Stocky's comments aspire to!

But to be serious for a moment in his twisted, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, way Stocky makes a good point, intentional or not. In the last 20 years what has beaten great QBs in the SB? The Giants(twice), The Buccaneers and the Eagles all had one big thing in common and that's DLa that are deep and can get it done with four.

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Oppy's picture

April 12, 2025 at 05:14 pm

I used to save his (multiple) draft predictions, then I'd watch post-draft and the following years as he'd make posts with claims about how he was "right" about guys he never included in his drafts, or only included in one mock draft (out of 10) or other completely warped and dishonest takes relating to who the players he wanted were at what positions, or completely 180'ing his takes on players pre-draft compared to a year or two down the line, but it became boring and more work than it was worth in short order.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2025 at 07:49 pm

Sit on it.- So pointless

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Oppy's picture

April 13, 2025 at 01:01 pm

Not at all pointless.

For a guy like yourself who regularly blasts the GM of the Packers for doing a poor job, and also as a poster who frequently makes claims that your 'picks' are nearly always 'hits' and rarely 'misses', it was quite informative tracking your approach - throw as much shit at the wall as possible; claim all the 'hits', and ignore/deny any and all of your 'misses'.

Granted, it's the same approach many draftniks take, but that doesn't make it any less dishonest.. especially when you are constantly denigrating Gutekunst for the job he does, but tout your own supposed prowess in the draft selection process. It's easy to bat 1.000 when you take unlimited swings, throw away / deny the strikes and balls, and only tally the hits.

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gsd3's picture

April 14, 2025 at 10:00 am

Huh??

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Oxymoron 3339's picture

April 12, 2025 at 12:40 pm

What position to draft first? Best available at the following positions OL, WR, CB, Edge and DT. Rinse and repeat next round.

What will Gute do? Who freaking knows. In Jan 2020 we got run over to the tune of 285 yards rushing in the NFC Championship Game.

Three months later did we shore up our Run D? Nope we picked a backup QB, RB and TE in the first three rounds. Yes we picked Love and maybe that alone will make that draft good, but I want a GM that is going for the Title next year not some guy building for the future. Most of that 2020 draft was a bust. Gute is average at drafting and we’re not getting to 14 titles with a GM that is average at drafting.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2025 at 03:00 pm

Thanks for bringing up that great memory! Every round I kept saying this or that DT is still available. Then it got to the 6th round and the options aren't great but there's still maybe one of two that could help. Butttt Noooo! He did add Anthony Rush and that Big Snack guy late in the year though. 🤷

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PhantomII's picture

April 12, 2025 at 02:56 pm

It's not a tough choice at al Gil.....AR never had a #2 WR for several years and now Love does not have a #1 OR #2 WR. Several years in a row our OL was unable to stop a 4 man rush without TE and RB help constantly which enables 7 Defensive players to cover 3 receivers. Now our OL is getting beefier and the stupidest thing our GM could do is not have a #1 OR #2 WR to take advantage of our improvement.....
So I'm betting Edge round 1, because it would be another luxury pick we don't need and won't start for 2-3 years. That's why we have not been to a SB in 15 years. We do need a DL but WR is a far bigger need......unfortunately 1 was not signed this off-season....now we need a couple stud WR's in the draft...and the way you ensure that is to MOVE-UP and top off the Offense with QUALITY PLAYERS at this position.

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WD's picture

April 12, 2025 at 03:57 pm

Of course everything depends on how the draft comes down to us. So, there are too many variables to say how it turns out. We have three major needs as I see it. Edge DT CB and on offense WR. Most can see that. So best available at either position seems most rational.

My favorite first pick would be Edge/DT Shemar Steward. He is fast, big and versatile and could play any where along the front four. If you draft him you would not need to draft a DL early. Also I don't don't why you would pass on a speed edge specialist like James Pearce. So what if he only plays on third down passing situations. He runs a 4.47. That is incredible speed off the edge.

As for offense there is only one WR worthy of the Packers first pick and that would be Golden. Some lucky team will walk away with him and won't regret it. So what if he is small. He will always be open. He is the fastest receiver in the draft and has great hands. Nuff said

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MooPack's picture

April 12, 2025 at 05:04 pm

Offense:
OT - Josh Simmons
WR - Emeka Egbuka

Defense:
DT - Derrick Harmon
Edge - Landon Jackson
CB - Shavon Revel

In no particular order, I think OT, WR, DT, Edge, and CB are Packers greatest needs. These are my 1st round picks at each of those positions.

Josh Simmons:
Unless a team has an elite LT, they should always be looking to upgrade. It's a premium position. Walker is serviceable or whatever other adjective you'd prefer, but not elite, so prior sentence takes precedence. Simmons was a top 5 -10 prospect until the patellar tendon injury. That injury takes 6-12 months recovery and news is that is ahead of schedule. He mirrors and shuffles very smoothly. When he locks on your done. He slides to the second level easily. Has a bit of nasty and finishes to the whistle. In 2 yrs he allowed one sack. If he drops and the Packers take him they would have their LT for the next 10+ years. The OL would be set. I'm always of the opinion you get the trenches right first and work your way out.

Emeka Egbuka:
If the Packers finally take a 1st round WR, he'd be my choice. His hands are outstanding with a career 5.5% drop rate and I think only 3.89% last year. He's probably not a WR1 or a real deep threat, but I don't see any elite WR's in this years draft. He does have very good shuttle score that translates to his quickness on the field. He's a YAC move the chains WR2, and I get the Packers have a bunch of those, but Egbuka would be the best of them. Actually, I hope the Packers don't take a WR in the 1st rd. There is a big, scorching speed, somewhat sleeper, maybe Watson replacement (until healthy) who looks to be available in the 3rd-4th rds. I don't know why he isn't higher other than production doesn't stand out, but he had 9 TD's last year, very high yds per avg., and only 2 drops. Don't pay attention to the "he doesn't run the route tree" copy and paste analysts. I watched his game breakdowns and he runs most of them not just the go routes. Shows a high IQ for open spaces. I'm baffled he isn't higher. His name - Donte Thornton, Tenn.

Derrick Harmon:
DT may be the biggest need. Clark is getting older. Slaton is gone. Wyatt hasn't progressed as much as anticipated. Brooks and Wooden are ok. The Packers need an upgrade. Harmon had 45 tackles, same amount as top DT Mason Graham, 11 tackles for loss, 5 sacks, and 55 pressures last year (12 more than any other IDL in FBS), 4 Pass Def, and 2 FF. His stats are better than the two Michigan DT's. If Harmon is there at the Packers pick he'd be very hard to pass on.

Landon Jackson:
IMO, the most underrated Edge. Fits more of a 4-3 DE. Great size with frame to add more weight. Elite vertical and broad jumps which shows his power on the field. But what stood out to me when watching his tape is his almost pro level hand use and pass rush technique. If Gary and LVN knew how to use their hands like this kid, they'd be great rushers. Maybe Jackson can give them some pointers. Very good at holding the edge and run stop. 10 tackles for loss. More production than Shemar Stewart and Mykel Williams by a good bit at 49 tackles and 6.5 sacks. And he is not a tweener like Mike Green, Donovan Ezeiruaku, James Pearce, and Nic Scourton. Unless the Packers want to go the tweener route. Landon probably would be available in the 2nd, but probably not to the Packers pick at 54. Either a trade back if they want him or a trade up of their 2nd in the second round.

Shavon Revel:
ACL injury robbed him of last year, so your betting on his 2023 year, which was outstanding, and his physical traits. Good height and arm length, speed, very good tackling, and running/shadowing with receivers. 2023 - 54 tackles, 4 for loss, 1 sack, 13 Pass Def, 1 FR for TD. Blocked 2 field goals. 2 Int, 1 for TD last year before he got hurt at game 3. He is a risk both because of injury and experience, but I'd bet on his high upside.

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gsd3's picture

April 14, 2025 at 10:10 am

Egbuka at 23 would probably not be the best pick, but it would be a very safe one. Coming from the WR factory known as Ohio State. Would not be a high level #1 but could be #1 on our roster. I wouldn't be doing cartwheels over it but would be a helluva lot less disappointed than many 1st round selections in years past.

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