The Lass Word: Roster Numbers Tell a Story

Pack loads up at key positions.

The 2024 Green Bay Packers take the field for their first training camp practice of the season today.  91 players are in the fold.   It is interesting and instructive to examine the team roster, as listed on the Packers own website, to perhaps gain a few insights as to what the coaches and front office may be thinking. 

By far, the position group with the highest number of players in camp is defensive line.  No fewer than seventeen prospects are listed as DLs, although that is a bit misleading.  The change to a 4-3 defensive scheme has resulted in what used to be called edge rushers now  being included as DLs.  So guys like Rashan Gary, Preston Smith, Lukas Van Ness, Kingsley Enagbare and Brentan Cox Jr. are listed as defensive linemen.  All may, at certain times, line up on the line of scrimmage with their hand on the ground.  Still, seventeen is a big number.  The team is clearly looking to build better depth among the front seven.  At least five of the candidates are new to the team. 

The second highest number of players in a position group may surprise you.  It’s receivers.  Twelve receivers are on the camp roster.  Most fans might be under the impression that the Pack is set at the position, with their top seven from last season all returning, including Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, Bo Melton, Samori Toure and Malik Heath.  Despite that bevy of promising talent, the team is looking at five more pass catchers.  They gave up on the experiment of converting quarterback Alex McGough to receiver, releasing him last week, and then signed two more off the street, in Jalen Wayne and Rory Starkey.  Grant DuBose was actually a seventh round draft pick in 2023 but has scarcely had the opportunity to prove himself.  Clearly, the coaching staff intends to keep the pressure on these young veterans from last year, and make them realize nothing will be given them toward making this year’s squad. 

Green Bay is not taking it for granted that they have solved their safety issues just because they drafted three of them.  There are eight safeties taking the field today.  Draft picks Javon Bullard and Evan Williams are thought to be vying for a spot opposite free agent prize Xavier McKinney.  But the front office is making sure they feel the heat from guys like Zayn Anderson, Tyler Coyle and Benny Sapp, as well as second year player Anthony Johnson, who saw plenty of playing time last year.  Draft pick Kitan Oladipo is starting camp on the injured list, but he’ll be in the mix eventually.  This is also one of the areas the Packers hope will spawn several special teams prospects. 

Judging by sheer numbers, the Packers may be concerned about cornerback.  There are nine of them.  Jaire Alexander and Keisean Nixon may be the only locks to make the team.  There will be a battle royale from amongst Eric Stokes, Carrington Valentine, Corey Ballantine, Robert Rochelle, Kalen King, Gemon Green and Zyon Gilbert for the remaining spots.  The coaches are hoping at least three or four can step up to be reliable starting caliber players.  That competition will be fierce and fascinating to observe. 

Eight inside linebackers will start camp.  Quay Walker and rookie Edgerrin Cooper are expected to be the mainstays.  But the coaches will make sure they get plenty of challenge from returning veterans Isaiah McDuffie, Eric Wilson and Kristian Welch, along with draft pick Tyron Hopper and newcomers Ralen Goforth and Christian Young. 

The Packers brought back running back AJ Dillon, but the popular “mayor of Door County” will have to fight to make this team.  There are six running backs in camp, led by sure bets Josh Jacobs and third round pick MarShawn Lloyd.  Henry Pearson is the lone fullback listed on the roster, but RBs Jarveon Howard, Ellis Merriweather and returning veteran Emanuel Wilson want a slot somewhere on this club. 

Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft probably don’t have to worry too much about job security, but Ben Sims will be looking over his shoulder at three other tight end prospects wanting to take his slot, including veteran Tyler Davis, and newcomers Messiah Swinson and Joel Wilson. 

The labeling along the offensive line is intriguing.  Sean Rhyan is listed only as a guard.  Zach Tom is listed only as a tackle.  First round pick Jordan Morgan is the only player being classified as a tackle/guard, while three players, Elgton Jenkins, Royce Newman and Donovan Jennings are guard/tackles.  Apparently the first position listed is the one the team feels the player is most likely to play, although that can certainly change.  Six players are listed as tackles only, including projected starter Rasheed Walker and newly acquired former first round pick Andre Dillard.  There will be massive cross training throughout camp, and labeling any of these OL guys may be a lesson in futility. 

Not a single player on the squad is listed as a center only.  Josh Myers and draft pick Jacob Monk are shown as center/guards.  Do we read anything into that regarding Myers status as the starting center?   

There are three quarterbacks.  The Packers are hoping back ups Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt play well enough to force them to keep all three on the final 53.   

Finally, Anders Carlson is getting heat from, not just one, but two other kickers, including veteran Greg Joseph.  James Turner, the kicker from Michigan”s national championship team, is also on the scene.  Carlson’s performance last year was unacceptable.  The Packers know it and he knows it.  He will have to earn the right to come back.  Long snapper Matt Orzech was shaky at times last season, and free agent Peter Bowden was brought in to challenge him. 

Clearly, the Packers recognize the key to their surprising renaissance of a year ago was the product of giving young players the opportunity to compete, and win, playing time on this team.  They are hoping the same formula takes them to the next level in 2024.  

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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T7Steve's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:25 am

"Josh Myers and draft pick Jacob Monk are shown as center/guards. Do we read anything into that regarding Myers status as the starting center?"

Right or wrong, I've been very hard with my criticism of Myers. I hope I've been wrong, but the Packers are the ones that set the standards for me. I hope Monk can give him a run for his money and they can help improve each other. This is a young team, and I don't think they should settle for linemen that are "OK".

A team will not dominate or actually even be competitive unless they can dominate at the line of scrimmage. Either side of the ball.

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NickPerry's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:37 am

I think Monk will surprise some people.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:42 am

Reading some comments from Coaches, writers for Duke, while Barton was their big name stud due his 4 years of consistent production at T and C...Monk had the best season on their line in 2023.

Good get, Gutey!

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Leatherhead's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:13 am

I think it's very unlikely that a Day 3 rookie is going to beat out the guy who has started the last three years. Not one single coach has said anything other than "Myers is our starter at Center".

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:52 am

I think it unlikely it is unlikely if Myers does not play better than last year.

Monk will get his chance to unseat him and Myers has a big camp challenge ahead. Even if Monk does not start game one (lots of duties for the C beyond blocking...learning the protection calls takes time), I could see him on the line after a few games.

With Monk looking over his shoulder, Myers will be on a short leash during a contract year.

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:17 pm

Or Jenkins, who took snaps there today. It’s worth remembering that, if everyone stays healthy, they are going to try to find a role for Morgan. If Myers wins in merit, so be it, just let’s get the best current 5 out there. I don’t want “playing the best football of his life” justifications for mediocrity as we have seen from these coaches with respect to both Hanson and Myers.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:50 pm

Agree LH! All the draft profiles say Monk's lack of elite size and strength make him a backup center in the NFL, and he could fill in at guard in a pinch. I don't see anything suggesting he would unseat an NFL veteran as a rookie.

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Tundraboy's picture

July 22, 2024 at 08:09 pm

Yes, In football Linemen have to dominate, how often, and for how long? A career and effort separates the great ones, but meh is not in the equation. At least growing up with the Packers. That's one thing I've been pretty spoiled by

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NickPerry's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:36 am

YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

TC officially marks the start of the 2024 season for me. Yes, I know about OTAs but this has always been the start of the season in my house.

Stay healthy, keep building that chemistry, and the youngest team in the NFL will take care of the rest...

For YEARS to come!!

Go Pack Go!!!

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Tundraboy's picture

July 22, 2024 at 08:11 pm

For you. Happy New Year NP,!. It is officially the start of my " calendar year as well, GPG

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:38 am

Higher quality starters, more quality depth, and fewer question marks for this Camp compared to last year.

Who is the best player at each position? It is a challenge because there are so many choices this year. But it is also easier to name one:

QB - Love. RB - Jacobs. OL - Tom. TE - Musgrave. WR - Doubs.

DL - Gary. LB - Walker. CB - Alexander. S - McKinney

Punter - Whelan. Kicker - Carlson (?). LS - ?

That's a good group and I can replace them with other teammates and make a good case. So can all my fellow CHTV readers.

It is has been awhile when almost every position has a potential Pro Bowl candidate.

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stockholder's picture

July 22, 2024 at 06:52 am

Kenny Clark just signed a 3 year extension.
Best player?

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:05 am

Sure. Why not? That's my point.

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T7Steve's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:29 am

I like your list and am pleased as pie.

At the risk of agreeing with Stock, Clark's name popped into my head while I was reading your post too. Like you could have two categories there with an all-pro edge and al-pro D line with the names you can replace them with just popping off the chart.

Your point can go on and on except as you noted on STs. I think Carlson will come around this season, but I don't understand why we can't find a keeper long snapper that can actually block and tackle.

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dobber's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:43 am

I think STs are more of a wild card this year than in past years with the new KO rules. It will be interesting what kind of player becomes your STs specialist, and how that moves roster spots around.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:01 am

I am a huge fan of Kenny! Dependable and productive. Very happy he's going to be leading the DL on the field for another 3 years at least. The former wrestler is strong as an ox and sublime using his balance and leverage making him a difficult "match" for O opponents.

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stockholder's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:01 am

I think the fact that it's a new extension etc.
Makes him the top DL.
He is the All-pro!
Nothing against Gary.

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T7Steve's picture

July 22, 2024 at 11:06 am

Why can't they both be ALL-Pros?

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 11:34 am

Is that allowed?:-))

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:19 pm

Unless they are now playing the same position, this “competition” is nonsense.

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Packers0808's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:16 am

Clark signed to 3 year extension, now onto Love and team set up looks good going forward.

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:25 am

The fact that we have 12 receivers shouldn’t surprise anyone. We normally go into camp with around that number. We have 3 groups for 3 QBs. It’s a numbers thing as much as anything.

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T7Steve's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:30 am

Did you take a break CW? I was just thinking last week that I haven't been seeing any of your posts.

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:24 pm

Yes, there’s only so much circling off season regurgitation I can stand. Unless there is some real news in the lead up to camp, I try to step back, for my sanity and that of anyone who might read my thoughts. I’m glad to say we survived without arrests/deaths or other bad news. I wasn’t a fan of Thornton as a prospect, but still, it puts things in perspective.

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stockholder's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:31 pm

I missed you Cw.-
Thought you died.
Seriously- I'm glad your ok.
Now about your sanity-
Can't help you there.

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dobber's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:44 am

I haven't looked at other teams' 90-man rosters to see if 12 is really out of the ordinary.

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LeotisHarris's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:48 am

Quick NFC North roster scan:

Vikings - 12

Bears - 12

Lions - 12

Maybe the Secret GM Roster Guide says carry 12 WRs into camp?

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Qoojo's picture

July 22, 2024 at 12:07 pm

Secret GM Roster Guide:

"Twelve shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be twelve. Thirteen shalt thou not count, neither count thou eleven, excepting that thou then proceed to twelve..."

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Tundraboy's picture

July 22, 2024 at 08:16 pm

I guess statistically that's true but in recent years weren't we kind of just stuffing the lineup so to speak?.Trying to fill things out. Hoping that one or two additional might stick in any given year, and add to the diminishing core of 1 to 3 true starters.

Me I'm excited as hell because we know we have a solid core of at least five or six and probably a lot more!!! Man, I can't wait for this year to start.

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Handsback's picture

July 22, 2024 at 07:48 am

Exciting stuff...last year's performance is pointing to this year and next year's Super Bowl run.
Go Pack Go!

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coreykelley's picture

July 22, 2024 at 08:05 am

Overall, the Packers' strategy focuses on fostering intense competition, giving young players opportunities, and building on last year's success. The aim is to elevate the team's performance for the 2024 season.

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dobber's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:46 am

I suppose we need to get used to the AI/chatbots showing up...

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NFLfan's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:06 am

My blood pressure just decreased 20 points knowing there is competition @ Cornerback and Kicker.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:10 am

Tom is off PUP and back in DOG mode for Camp.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

July 22, 2024 at 09:28 pm

:)

Thanks for the news

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Leatherhead's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:17 am

With the changes in the size of the practice squad and the new rules for activating those guys, we're essentially looking at a 69 man team 45 Active, 8 Inactive, 16 on the PS.

I've never seen a team with too many guys who could cover and tackle, and they get hurt, so I think that's a smart position to stock up on.

I think the DL numbers......are mostly to keep our main dogs from wearing down, or even getting injured in an exhibition. Unless somebody gets injured in training camp, it'll be Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Gary, VanNess, Smith, Enagbare, Brooks, Wooden. Those 9 guys will be our DL this year. The rest......fodder.

I''m pretty tempted to say the same thing at WR. I think we're fine with our Top 6, but we still have room for some guys on the practice squad.

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T7Steve's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:42 am

I'm nervous that our practice squad receivers, and D-line even, won't go unnoticed by the rest of the NFL this season because they're all good and we're so deep.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 22, 2024 at 12:50 pm

Every year people say that about the WRs and every year it doesn't matter. Who was the last WR that got poached off the Packers squad that did anything? The guy that was the 4th WR for the Vikings for a year?

Every squad has a bunch of Uber athletic players at WR and they all have more than they need.

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GregC's picture

July 22, 2024 at 10:37 am

Not sure the roster numbers tell us anything except that they found more borderline talent at some positions than they did at others. Most of these players are just practice squad candidates and don't have much chance of making the 53-player roster.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 22, 2024 at 11:49 am

My sense is Team Gutey is an excellent group of talent evaluators. Gutey has had them on the bus for several years and now has them in the right seats...especially for the last few years.

His first draft was highly forgettable. But his personnel operation is firing on all cylinders now, IMO.

Both my daughters, "A" students in HS really struggled their first semester in College (so did I!) and were tempted to doubt their college aspirations which I nipped in the bud. I told them it is not how you start but how you finish and both graduated with honors.

Gutey is getting very high grades as a Packer Executive now, in my view. Makes good decisions...many very difficult and unpopular (Jones for example). My hope is Policy makes him GM of the entire football operation after Murphy leaves his post.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 22, 2024 at 12:54 pm

I see you didn't run this comment past Stockholder before posting. Prepare yourself, you might get a downvote. 😉

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:34 pm

Leatherhead is right though, you are always looking for new blood for the PS, as older fringe players may not chose to stay on ours or we may decide they lack enough upside to justify retaining them. While Gute churns, we are going to want players we can use if needed on our PS come September. Many of those will be fillers, ideally one or two will be Meltons primed to break out as more than depth and a few others players with talent that we think needs molding, primarily for 2025 and beyond.

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stockholder's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:24 pm

Sorry- but Gute was in the packers scouting program
for years. There should be No excuses.

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Coldworld's picture

July 22, 2024 at 05:35 pm

Well if players from that far back are still relevant there must be a veterans league I don’t know about.

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