Seven Questions to Consider Before Training Camp Starts

There are tons of questions surrounding the Packers as the start of training camp looms, but here are seven specific ones to keep in mind. 

1. Who will win the RB3 job?

While it’s entirely possible the Packers keep four running backs on the roster like they did in 2020 with Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, AJ Dillon, and Tyler Ervin, that feels less likely this coming season with so many roster spots potentially being dedicated to wide receivers and tight ends. So that begs the question, who steals the third spot behind Jones and Dillon? Will it be Patrick Taylor, the undrafted player out of Memphis who spent his rookie season rehabbing from injury, or 2021 seventh-round draft pick Kylin Hill out of Mississippi State? (Second year pro Dexter Williams is also in the mix, but he seems to have the longest shot given that he’s already had opportunities to latch onto the roster.)

2. How many quarterbacks will be on the active roster?

This of course depends on the status of one Aaron Charles Rodgers, and it seems like we won’t know anything about his decision until veterans are due to report at training camp one week from today on July 27. The Packers carried three quarterbacks in 2020 with Tim Boyle serving as the game day backup and Jordan Love a healthy scratch for the season. In 2021, however, it’s likely if Rodgers is under center that Love will be his backup and the Packers will only have two quarterbacks on the active roster with one on the practice squad. If Rodgers does not report and Love is QB1 for the Packers, then it seems more probable that Green Bay carries three quarterbacks on the active roster, and Blake Bortles seems to make the most sense as Love’s backup given his veteran status. The other two quarterbacks currently on the team are fan favorite Kurt Benkert and Jake Dolegala out of Central Connecticut State. 

3. How many wide receivers will the Packers keep?

Last year, the Packers went into the season with five wide receivers on the active roster. This year, however, there are even more players battling for what could be the same number of spots. Davante Adams, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Allen Lazard, and rookie third-round draft pick Amari Rodgers are four roster locks at this point, but then that leaves seven players vying for either one or two remaining roster spots. Those seven players are veteran free agent Devin Funchess who opted out of last season, Equanimeous St. Brown, Reggie Begelton, Chris Blair, Bailey Gaither, Malik Taylor, DeAndre Thompkins, and Juwann Winfree. Funchess and St. Brown should have the inside track to whatever spots remain, but this position will have some of the stiffest competition come training camp. 

4. Who will start at corner opposite Jaire Alexander? 

At this point of the offseason, despite the selection of Georgia cornerback Eric Stokes in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft, Kevin King still feels like the starter across from second-team All-Pro Jaire Alexander on the boundary. While King had an up-and-down 2020 season after a promising 2019 campaign where he led the defense with five interceptions, he’s a reliable veteran who gives Green Bay the ability to let Stokes develop naturally. Even with a high draft selection, first-round corners don’t always have impressive rookie seasons. Jeff Okudah from the Detroit Lions is a prime example of a rookie being thrust into the spotlight and dealing with growing pains. While it’s possible Stokes will surpass King on the roster midway through the season and claim a starting role, letting him develop slowly without the added pressure of being an every-snap corner will go a long way towards his long term success, and the success of the defense under new coordinator Joe Barry. 

5. What will the starting offensive line look like?

This question is a two-parter of sorts, since perhaps the larger question is “will David Bakhtiari be ready for Week 1 against the Saints?” If he is ready to return, then the left side of the offensive line is all but solidified. If his status remains a question, then there are plenty of candidates to fill in at left tackle, whether that’s Billy Turner, Elgton Jenkins, or a surprise option like Ben Braden. Moving any existing starter to left tackle, however, creates new roster holes to fill. Rookie second-round pick Josh Myers is the early frontrunner to be Green Bay’s center, and that should continue into training camp. The right side of the offensive line is where there are more questions, as Lucas Patrick, Jon Runyan Jr., and Royce Newman have all taken snaps at right guard. The Packers kept nine linemen on the active roster to start the 2020 season, and it’s likely they do the same in 2021. There are currently 16 on the 90-man roster, so almost half of the unit will be cut before the season starts. 

6. Who could be Green Bay’s next undrafted contributor? 

Every year the Packers seem to sign at least one or two undrafted players to the active roster out of training camp. With names like Allen Lazard, Robert Tonyan, and Krys Barnes as recent examples of undrafted success stories (or Tramon Williams and Sam Shields going back further), it’s easy to see why undrafted players select Green Bay as a landing spot. Patrick Taylor could fit the mold here as an undrafted running back, though he isn’t a rookie. Kabion Ento is also a good choice at cornerback, though he did make the active roster initially out of camp last season before being added to injured reserve. Some rookie names to keep an eye on are Jack Heflin, defensive lineman out of Iowa in a position group that isn’t incredibly deep, versatile inside linebacker/safety hybrid Christian Uphoff out of Illinois State, and special teams returner/wide receiver Bailey Gaither out of San Jose State. 

7. Who will wear the communication helmet in Joe Barry’s defense? 

Last year to start the season, Christian Kirksey was the every-down linebacker and undrafted rookie Krys Barnes shocked many when he started Week 1 against the Vikings opposite Kirksey. Towards the end of the season, the roles swapped as Barnes filled in as the every-down linebacker and Kirksey played more of a Will linebacker role. With Kirksey being released this offseason, the thought was that Barnes would continue wearing the communication helmet and players like Kamal Martin and Ty Summers would rotate around him depending on the defensive alignment. Then the Packers brought in veteran De’Vondre Campbell after the draft, and things got muddy. While Barnes still could start the year as the signal caller for Joe Barry, Campbell has played 79% of snaps or more on defense since 2017. It seems unlikely he’d come to Green Bay solely as a rotational piece. Barry uses his inside linebackers in a number of different ways, and it’s also possible both of them will rotate on and off the field enough that the communication helmet could go to someone who’s an every-down player, like safety Adrian Amos. 

 

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Maggie Loney is a writer for Cheesehead TV and podcaster for the Pack-A-Day Podcast and Pack's What She Said. Find her on Twitter at @MaggieJLoney.

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ImaPayne's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:14 pm

I had Rodgers showing up sooner or later but after reading todays news, we now know it was always money. Rodgers was upset about the Love deal only becuase it was the paciks 'out' if Rodgers play and huge money didnt match.
Personally I hate cheap ball but smart ball of giving yourself an out when a player loses their ability is good for the org. Those 10 year contracts in baseball have killed many a team: Cabrera, A Rod, Cano all faultered and yet still got the huge pay the team couldnt get away from paying.
Rodgers wants that kind of deal and the Pack said no, we have Love.
Stay home Rodgers, we can live without you.

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cpabandit's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:33 pm

So the Diva, the spoiled brat turns down an offer to be the highest player in the league and will just have to suffer with $33 million a year. Is he worth every penny? Not to me! It's not about getting to the Championship round. It's about getting to and winning the SB. And don't blame it on the other players, he has had the players he needed to win.
Stay home Rodgers, we can live without you. Go Love go!

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:32 pm

I got the exact opposite out of today's news. If the report is accurate, he turned down a 2 year extension that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL, which means it's NOT about the money. He's obviously pissed, and his personal history shows he doesn't let things go.

It's looking more and more likely that AR12's days in GB are over. Let's hope we get a decent return on what seems, at this point, to be an inevitable trade. Personally, I hope they go with young, ascending players on rookie contracts, as opposed to draft picks.

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 02:00 pm

" I hope they go with young, ascending players on rookie contracts, as opposed to draft picks."

I think those guys will be hard to get. For exactly the reasons you don't want picks, any trading partner would likely be much more willing to deal picks than ascending players on cheap contracts.

When ARod goes, it will be for a pile of picks and maybe a couple of established vets who are being pushed off their current roster by younger, cheaper players, or younger players who are logjammed by established vets but haven't played much.

"It's looking more and more likely that AR12's days in GB are over. "

I disagree: #12 will play in GB in 2021 or not at all...and I don't think it's likely he'll sit out a year.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 20, 2021 at 04:54 pm

I don't understand the logic of forcing Rodgers to play in GB this season if they're just going to trade him next offseason anyway, which is what I keep hearing here. His trade value is going to go down, not up, each year he gets older.

The one reason I keep hearing is let's go get the SB this year and then move on. They haven't even GOTTEN to the SB with AR12 the last 10 years WITH him. It was there for the taking last year. NFCC game at home against an 11-5 Tampa team with a 43 year old QB, and they still came up short....again....for the 4th time in a row.

He doesn't want to be here. Why would you want a disgruntled QB leading your team? Get what you can in a trade while his trade value is at the highest it ever will be.

Personally, I would love to see him play here and retire here. At this point, that's extremely unlikely to happen.

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:15 pm

I would argue that right now his trade value is much lower than it will be in February. How many suitors will there be if the Packers let it be known that they're ready to move him? Maybe 2? -- and most teams don't have the cap space to take on the cash value of his contract. They'd need to cut to take him on. Add to that the point that any picks the Packers would get in return would have deflated value due to the win margin ARod would add to his receiving team, and the Packers would still do better if he sat out 2021 and they traded him in February 2022.

I don't see #12 coming in and tanking this season. What does he have to gain from it? Nothing but bad PR and a bad stain on his image that will linger wherever he goes. It's in his best interest to play well when he reports...and he knows it. And he will, because it will be in his best interest to show that he's "not the problem".

"The one reason I keep hearing is let's go get the SB this year and then move on. They haven't even GOTTEN to the SB with AR12 the last 10 years WITH him. "

If that's the logic, then why would anyone trade for him?

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:57 pm

"Add to that the point that any picks the Packers would get in return would have deflated value due to the win margin ARod would add to his receiving team"

Which is exactly why I'd rather they get proven player(s) than draft picks. The two teams I keep hearing are Denver and Las Vegas. Both would probably be playoff teams with Rodgers, which would, as you say, have deflated draft position in a trade.

We'll have to agree to disagree on his trade value this year vs. next year. And I never suggested he would tank this season if forced to play in GB. I don't believe that at all. I'm just saying that I've been in work situations where there is a disgruntled employee. It's never pretty. Sides are inevitably taken...it's just human nature.

Speculation is about to become reality fairly soon as training camp opens next week. It'll be interesting!

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 07:40 pm

Very true.

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NickPerry's picture

July 21, 2021 at 06:17 am

"I would argue that right now his trade value is much lower than it will be in February."

Completely agree with this. Rodgers comes in and plays well again and there's no reason he wouldn't, his trade value would be HUGE next March. He's not going to tank, especially after the whole "It's about the people" thing on Sportscenter or "I love my teammates, the fans, the coaches, in Green Bay". IF that's all true then tanking is absolutely out of the question. He'd look like one of the biggest douchebags ever to put on a helmet in the NFL if that happened.

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Coldworld's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:46 am

Part of the reason is practical, to which the cap dip only acts as a compounding factor. Teams are committed in cap terms now, limiting their options and equally, the Packers would have issues absorbing the cap hit of any incoming vets. It is not impossible, but the pool of teams able to make a trade now is small and many of those that could likely won’t meet with Rodgers approval. While he has no veto, no team will consummate a trade of that magnitude without him commuting to them.

Unless a contender loses their QB and can absorb the cap implications, the likelihood is that no trade will be practical until next year, even if the Packers would countenance one. If he really is just saying my way or the highway, which these reports suggest, I suspect that the organization may indeed refuse to reward it.

In my opinion, there is a better chance than many think that Rodgers does not start a game for us this year and doesn’t for anyone else. His choice on the former and Murphy’s on the latter. It is up to Rodgers to decide to play or not. I think the organization has accepted those are the only options that he has this year in effect.

I think the Packers leadership are willing to assume the cost on the field and off and recognize that him not playing at least avoids the worst outcome, a major loss in value due to injury. Whether he will elect to be disruptive or remain aggrieved remotely is a question only time will tell. Over to you Mr Rodgers, your bluff has been called I fear.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 21, 2021 at 01:03 pm

"Hi Aaron...Brian here. Say to help improve communication, I wanted you to hear this from me first. Congratulations...you and Jordan Love have been traded to Jacksonville for Trevor Lawrence."

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 21, 2021 at 01:39 pm

Agree Dobber. Most teams have their QB set for the season and have allocated their cap. Giving up draft picks and/or players to take on Rodgers enormous salary would be more difficult now than after the season.

I could be wrong, but I sense the motivation for Rodgers to grumble and demand a trade is exactly to try to get it done now, before the season so he can drag his big fat contract and MVP trophy to a new team out West with 3 years of life on it.

At the end of the day, this is and has been all about Rodgers pretending to be all angry stuff after signing the biggest NFL contract in the history of Earth back in 2018 while grinning like the Cheshire Cat and praising the Packer FO. Green Bay is now too small for his ego and his Hollywood fiancé.

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Gee's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:58 pm

Thank you that sums it up perfectly for me, and I believe so many others. Rodgers is going no where, but GB or where ever he's watching football on sunday from.

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tm_inter's picture

July 20, 2021 at 05:19 pm

Not only is Rodgers pissed, I have a hunch that he will go rogue, disregard MLF's plays and improvise so much that MLF can't stand Rodgers anymore.

If Rodgers can win games on his own plays, MLF may allow Rodgers to play on. But if the Packers lose, I believe MFL will bench Rodgers and start Love instead.

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 07:42 pm

I don't think so. It's not a good look for him, and makes it less likely that other GMs would want him. He limits his own opportunities if he does that.

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jont's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:00 pm

I agree, it can't be about money if he really did turn down the biggest contract ever. So I'm going float some wild speculation: he's told the FO that he'll take less money if they give him a voice in player selection.

"What in the name of Vince Lombardi did you say?" Murphy gasped.

"By way of example," 12 replied calmly, "let me explain my growing role as part owner of the Bucks. It's a new paradigm for a new age, Mark, ...."

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 20, 2021 at 07:39 pm

Well, if AR had a role in player acquisitions for the Bucks, that seems to be going very well as the Bucks on are the cusp of winning a world championship.

Let's see, they traded three players and a couple of first-round picks for Jrue Holiday, who appears to be the final piece that solved their puzzle. The Bucks showed Giannis that they were prioritizing getting him the help he needed to win it all by prioritizing the present over the future. GB used a first-round pick on the future rather than on the present.

Duh.

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Coldworld's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:48 am

Unless someone has floated a bigger one with more input. Tampering is hard to prove. But this is all idle speculation.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

July 21, 2021 at 05:15 am

13Champs,
Agreed on at some point there will be a trade. Agreed, get several young talented and ascending guys on first contracts. However, they will need a few draft picks following season for sure.

Let's do it and wipe our hands with this guy!

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mnbadger's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:17 pm

Great questions with really good answers and non-answers in some cases. One week from the opening of TC. We'll have those answers soon enough. I'm hoping a bunch of fellow CHTV'ers are able to attend and provide their observations. Many times, those observations come without bias and mean more than some media darling. GPG!

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Stroh's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:24 pm

Well those are questions. Most of the basically irrelevant however. The only ones that have much importance are #4 and 5.

Who starts opposite Jaire? I would like to say Stokes. But its asking too much of a rookie, even a 1st rd pick, to start opposite Jaire. You run the very real risk if ruining his confidence as a rookie. Stokes will get tested plenty when he's on the field as it is. Asking him to play on the other side of Jaire would be too much to ask or him right out of the gait. Later in the year, maybe that would be a possibility, but to start the season... Kevin King has got to be the starter. He already knows what it takes to start at CB and take the workload he gets opposite Jaire.

The Starting OL all depends on Bahktiari and I expect him to start the season on PUP or inactive. So my belief is this.
Jenkins LT
Runyan LG
Myers C
Patrick RG
Turner RT.

Just me but that makes by far the most sense.

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 01:57 pm

I know you have a lot more experience in PT and recovery than I do, but I think it's unlikely Bakhtiari goes PUP. Based on the reports out of camp, it seems that he'll be able to do player drills and the like sooner rather than later, which means PUP disappears. I think your second scenario is more likely: Bakhtiari practices, makes the final cut, then goes on short-term IR after the cutdown.

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Stroh's picture

July 20, 2021 at 04:15 pm

That's why I said inactive. If not on PUP, he makes the roster and maybe goes IR or is held as inactive. However, I do think he goes on PUP because the packers med staff is very conservative and OL and DL usually are close to a year recovery from ACL.

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Coldworld's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:54 am

I think it will depend on their confidence in what is behind him as well as his physical status. Being able to play without significant risk of re-injury comes before being able to play at the athletic level prior to the injury. During that time, the risk of re-injury is somewhat higher than normal, but actually injuries related to compensatory physical stress are more of a concern (advice given to me in the past).

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 21, 2021 at 03:32 am

This article linked below notes that PUP means not being activated until mid to late October. It also indicates that the NFL and the Union have yet to reach an agreement on IR rules; that is, so far IR is 8 weeks off with the requirement that the player has to be designated for return on September 1, which GB no doubt would do in Bakh's case. Also some concerns as PUP limits what players can do while on PUP.

My view is that there is a zero percent chance of putting Bakh on PUP. Ditto for IR unless it is only three weeks.

Edit: After reading Stroh's comment above, time to backtrack on the PUP. No one has set any expectations for when Bakh might return. The medical staff is conservative, though Bulaga came back fast. So there is a chance for PUP if the medical staff thinks he needs 6 weeks into the season anyway. Closer question if they think he needs 2-4 weeks. Active PUP means he can't practice with the team during TC, but I suspect he doesn't need to do that after two years in LaFleur's system. Reserve PUP (for the regular season) opens up a roster spot but means Bakh misses 6 weeks. IR means Bakh has to be on the 53 after cutdowns - I don't see why they would do that IF IR is still 8 weeks since there is little difference between PUP and IR in that case and one frees up a roster spot and one doesn't. Yes, after he is on the 53 a roster spot opens up, but someone gets exposed to waivers.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/nfl-sets-important-dates-for-the-2021-seas...

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Gee's picture

July 20, 2021 at 07:08 pm

Hmm I want to discuss your point 1, cause I have a thought. If you're like me right give me Jarie vs. everybody in the NFL 1 vs. 1 and now we can discuss Stokes. If KIng goes south, throw the kid in and go full Calvin Johnson-ish, (say 75% of how d's defended him back in the day) on who ever is across from Stokes. I would to see it, so I could see if it works. Otherwise the OL IMO is going to OK, until the DB get back, and we willl see from there.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 21, 2021 at 01:08 pm

Based on comment from Matt and David himself, I am optimistic he will be ready for the opener. If so, that is also a door opener for a fast start to the season, regardless of who is under center.

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porupack's picture

July 20, 2021 at 12:45 pm

Why are these questions to consider before Training Camp starts? Seems all of them but one are questions to ask after pre-season games and approaching cut-downs and some (OL configuration) after TC is over. The only question before training camp starts is #2 the QB and who reports.

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dobber's picture

July 20, 2021 at 01:58 pm

"Why are these questions to consider before Training Camp starts?"

Because otherwise we'll be subjected to more ARod/Davante articles.

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Coldworld's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:59 am

Nothing will develop before camp unless something new, definite and clearly from one of the parties emerges. Zero point in speculating (though the media will). Even if he does show up, the speculation will just evolve unless he comes out and commits very clearly, I suspect. We do not need more columns or angst over unsupported opinion or lazy journalistic fillers.

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ricky's picture

July 20, 2021 at 02:38 pm

Thank you for something new to consider. With training camp now (finally!) only a week away, there is some good discussion material in your post. In particular, I don't believe that either Funchess or ESB automatically have an easier path to the roster. Funchess has zero trust or chemistry with Rodgers, and is coming off another lost year. ESB does have some chemistry with AR, but at the same time, he can't stay on the field. And if he can't prove he can stay healthy, he's going to be looking for a position elsewhere.

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Johnblood27's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:10 pm

How is Funchess chem with Love?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

July 21, 2021 at 05:29 am

Dont believe many question ESB's obvious talent. Is he injury prone (aka Sternberger), just been unfortunate, or simply isnt tough enough to withstand the physicality of the game?

Whatever combination of the above it may be ESB has to know this year is his very last chance in GB. If he ends up departing I'd say he ends up in someone else's camp in 2022 for his last shot. He is standing with one foot on the dock, and another foot on the boat.

I'm hoping he puts it all together this season.

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PatrickGB's picture

July 21, 2021 at 09:36 am

I was both glad and surprised that ESB was available and drafted. And I have been disappointed that he has not shown more. But Funchess seems to be the better player. I watched him when he was with the Panthers and saw that he could make the difficult catch even when Cam made a bad throw. If Love is the starter then I think that Devon would be a better option than ESB. And if #12 starts then Devon is the kind of veteran that #12 prefers.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 21, 2021 at 01:46 pm

Funchess would be the slowest WR in GB, by far. Some fans complain Lazard is too slow too...but he runs a 4.5 vs Funchess's 4.7+.

I think Funchess on the 53 is unlikely given some intriguing fast, young, and incredibly productive college players like Gaithers, etc.

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Packers0808's picture

July 20, 2021 at 02:43 pm

At this point let the Short Haired "Bun Man" play by himself in his sandbox! I would bet it is the girlfriend that got this guys undies all twisted up that she wants to be out west somewhere to live and not some shithole to her out of the limelight in the midwest!

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LeotisHarris's picture

July 20, 2021 at 03:45 pm

What's with your fixation on AR's hair, little buddy? If he were sporting a Jimmy Taylor showing-scalp-flat-top, would your vitriol be the same?

I think you're wise to blame his fiancé. I'm surprised the national media hasn't picked up on it because this is the first time we've seen any of this kind of behavior from Rodgers. He's always been so easy-going; never holds a grudge.

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Packers0808's picture

July 20, 2021 at 05:22 pm

What is your fixation on my feelings about Hair Buns on men? I just think they look stupid on any male except for attention getting, ok Buddy?

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Stroh's picture

July 20, 2021 at 05:49 pm

Uhh... Rodgers is notorious for holding grudges! He hasn't talked to his family in a long time due to some family issues we don't (and shouldn't) know anything about. He has used every little slight, even perceived ones to motivate him at every oppotunity. Rodgers is a 1st class Grudge holder!

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jurp's picture

July 21, 2021 at 08:46 am

Dude, that's sarcasm.

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Johnblood27's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:12 pm

Leotis, your comments are always biting and right on point.

Love the wit.

Keep on keeping on my man!

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stockholder's picture

July 20, 2021 at 02:53 pm

I really don’t believe the Packers have any question marks. if Rogers comes back. 1. What you see is what you get. Amari Rodgers and Dugura will be in the back field first. 2. 3 QBs Rogers, Love, Bortles. 3. Wrs 6 - Funchess and Brown make it. 4. King will start. 5. STARTING OL - RUNYAN WILL BE THE LT IF BAHK ISN’T. Surprise! The Right side is the revolving door. 6. Ben Braden. 7. I say barnes keeps it.

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Stroh's picture

July 20, 2021 at 05:54 pm

Jenkins will be the LT because Bahktiari won't be ready to start the season. Jenkins is a much superior option to Runyan (who likely plays LG while Bahktiari is out). The OL will be solid and the Right side was good last year (and won't change) when the Packers had among the best OL in the NFL!

You on some crazy shit man! Keep smokin that crazy shit!

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Johnblood27's picture

July 20, 2021 at 06:14 pm

Right side was good last year?

Turner (as in Turnstile...) was exposed in the NFCCG. He sucked the year before too.

Im ready for the Yosh Nijman era to begin. Braden is a smoke screen for Nijman mania!

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Leatherhead's picture

July 20, 2021 at 07:31 pm

Totally wrong on Turner. Turnstile ? We led the league in offense. We had 348 yards passing in the NFCCG!!

Turner is a vet, he stays healthy, he’s versatile, and we’re fortunate we have him on the team.

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Stroh's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:51 am

Turner wasn't outstanding but he was much better at RT than he was the previous year at RG. Your pointing out one game in the NFCCG where Turner was stuck at LT not RT! No one ever wanted him to be the LT and that was proven correct.

Nijman is a pipedream! He'll never be an NFL caliber OT, not in a million years! I would have more hope in Braden, but then he's been bouncing around the NFL for what 3 or 4 yrs? We heard what the OL coach said about Braden becoming a possible starter, has the OL coach ever said anything remotely close about Nijman? That would be a resounding NO!

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stockholder's picture

July 20, 2021 at 09:20 pm

Jenkins is at Center on Ourlads depth chart. They won't move Jenkins to LT, unless Bahk doesn't play this year. I have Runyan (TEMP) because he played LT at Mi. And he will be the back -up LG this year. Patrick will be the center or he will lose his job. ( Doubt they start a Rookie, full Time at center.) They didn't draft one to move Jenkins. RT is Turners. But- You never put two rookies together. Especially if Rodgers is the QB.

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Stroh's picture

July 21, 2021 at 11:56 am

Well yes Runyan did play LT at UM, so what does that prove? The Big10 isn't exactly loaded w/ NFL pass rushers! If you think Runyan is a LT, then why not Van Lanen? He has the same accolades coming out of the Big10 as Runyan?!

They just used a 2nd rd draft pick on a Center that they believe is ideal for the blocking scheme. He was drafted to start immediately. So Jenkins isn't going to Center. Jenkins is by FAR the best alternative at LT until Bahktiari is healthy!

SMH... this isn't hard to figure out!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 20, 2021 at 08:24 pm

A. How many QBs on the roster? Entirely dependent on how good Love looks. If he looks competent, just 2 QBs is quite possible. If he isn't ready, a spot for Bortles opens up. Benkert is a good PS candidate.

B. How many WRs? I hope 5. It is pretty rare to need more. Keeping 6 or 7 doesn't usually mean a team is overflowing with talent at that position; rather, it is a sign of weakness.

C. Who starts opposite Jaire? I sure wish Newsome had dropped a few more spots. Stokes has talent, even if I thought it was mid-second round talent.

D. OL line. So much love out there for guys who've done nothing yet, including guys who have had chances in the NFL to actually do something. Drafted 6 OL just hoping to get two who can play. Very dependent on Myers being the guy. If he fails, a lot of plans get blasted. Patrick makes the team. Need two OGs. Newman and Runyan? Not ideal. People worry about ruining Stokes but have no worries about Myers, Newman, or Stepaniak (should he come to mind, which is unusual). There is a high chance that the OL is not as good this year, something like 90%. I don't think it will be bad, but something close to 13th ranked is likely when Bakh returns. I suspect that OC or OG are Jenkins' best positions, though he might be decent as an OT.

E. Only 7 UDFAs this year instead of the usual 19 to 20. I am torn between picking Cronk and Uphoff. Too much competition for Cronk so I will go with Uphoff, whose ST abilities give him a better chance to actually play.

F. Who will wear the helmet? I should hope it is someone who will call TO if Scotty Miller is matched up with Kevin King or at least tell the safety to help out deep. GB called a TO just 5 seconds earlier. Apparently, that was insufficient.

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badaxed's picture

July 20, 2021 at 09:45 pm

King a "reliable veteran"? Yes you can rely on him to suck. Time to admit king was a mistake and move on.

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croatpackfan's picture

July 21, 2021 at 04:05 am

I want to congratulate to all Bucks fans and supporters on winning the NBA title!

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Crankbait's picture

July 21, 2021 at 06:42 am

Very happy for the fans and the players but the NBA and their sponsors hate America and love Communist China.
The NBA is a disgrace.

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flackcatcher's picture

July 21, 2021 at 02:16 pm

Did you notice what the Bucks did in the off season prior to this season. They got rid of all the players who were championing racial equity BLM etc. They wrecked team chemistry and the MVP was very unhappy with them. After how the Bucks won the NBA championship, I wonder how the rest of the NBA, not to mention the NFL will respond.

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Crankbait's picture

July 24, 2021 at 05:47 pm

You know that the radical leftist woke organizations (besides the NBA) are going to do their best to get their claws into Giannis to get down with the cause. I pray that he tells them all to shove it.

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HarryHodag's picture

July 21, 2021 at 07:56 am

The real question is the defense. If Barry can move this unit one level up the whole team will be elevated. If Aaron Rodgers takes his ball and goes home it will take awhile for the offense to adjust to a new QB.

One question left off the list is whether special teams will improve. Crosby should be ok, but changes in personnel is key. There might be a new punter, long snapper and other changes. Amari Rodgers might give them a boost in the return game.

Field position and defense are still critical even in the pass-slappy offensive era we're in now.

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Packerpasty's picture

July 21, 2021 at 09:59 am

I can't wait for the fights in the stands between pro Rodgers and anti Rodgers fans when they start to boo him...that should bring extra excitement to training camp and games.

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Crankbait's picture

July 24, 2021 at 05:47 pm

After the first touchdown to Adams, there will be no booing for the rest of the year.

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LambeauPlain's picture

July 21, 2021 at 01:29 pm

I see only 5 WRs on the 53 along with 4 TEs and 4 RBs given the balance between Matt's offense in run/pass. Also see 10 OL kept. And given this offense, it will be rare when 3 WRs will be on the field. I see a lot of 2 TE sets and 2 RB sets and even some with 2 TE/2 RB plays and only 1 WR...and some where A. Rodgers lines up as the 2nd RB. So many options for Matt and Hackett to unleash.

Gone are the days of MM flooding the field with WRs and daring defenses to stop them. In the last few season of MM, defenses were indeed stopping them.

These are the days of "illusion of complexity" and it worked well in 2019...even better in 2020.

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