Preseason Game Three Roundup: 2019

Preseason Game Three Roundup: 2019

Injuries, Usage, Formations, Personnel:

  • Packers who won’t play tonight in Winnipeg after issues with the field:
  • QB Aaron Rodgers. WR Davante Adams. CB Kevin King*. CB Jaire Alexander. S Josh Jones*. S Darnell Savage. CB Ka'dar Hollman*. RB Jamaal Williams. S Adrian Amos. RB Aaron Jones, Campbell (PUP), Tramon Williams, Burks (injured), Vitale (calf), Ento (inj), Martinez, Z and P Smith, Greg Roberts (PUP), Linsley, Taylor, Bakh, Jenkins, Bulag, Turner, Graham, MVS, Sternberger, Lewis, Gilvert, Lowry, Clark, and Fadol Brown.  Per Rob Demovsky
  • three players who went to the locker room with injuries in the first half: ILB Curtis Bolton, OLB Rashan Gary and now WR Equanimeous St. Brown.  Jason Wilde  [Add Cole Madison and Allen Lazard.  ESB (crutches and a walking boot), Bolton (crutches and a knee brace) and Lazard look like they might be serious.]
  • He [Martinez] did not make the trip, a source said, but I’m told it’s nothing serious. He will be available for the start of the regular season.  Demovsky [So Martinez never was going to play.]

Quarterbacks and WRs:

  • Tim Boyle had a rough start to the night. Not so much now. Boyle is 10-for-18, 142 yards, two scores. He found the mismatches on the field, and just kept going to them.  Wood
  • Drives w/ Kizer through 3 games: 66 plays - 218 yards - 3.3ypp - 10 points - 3 turnovers, (2 downs) - 7 punts - 2 scoring drives Drives w/ Boyle through 3 games: 83 plays - 488 yards - 5.9ypp - 45 points - 1 turnover - 8 punts - 7 scoring drives.  Herman
  • Trevor Davis in the first quarter: 17-yard punt return. 18-yard run on end around 20-yard diving catch and run Not a bad return for a WR on the bubble. His talent is clear.  Wood
  • Holy cow, Darrius Shepherd. What a catch for 22 on 3-11.  Hodkiewicz
  • Jake Kumerow just turned Nick Nelson's feet from water to wine on a double move and Tim Boyle found him wide open for an easy 23-yard touchdown.  Owczarski
  • Dime to EQ dropped. Come back and throw a td to Kumerow on the other side. QB2.  Herman
  • That was a sweet, sweet throw from Boyle but St. Brown just can't bring it in. Would have been a 16-yard TD.  Hodkiewicz [Same play as above – tough catch with arms waving in front, but….]
  • Allen Lazard stopped on the route. Can't do that. First interception for a Packers QB in camp, but that sure seemed like it was on Lazard. Gotta keep running.  Wood

Tight Ends:

  • Big Bob Tonyan from the slot. Threatened up field with speed, hit the breaks at the sticks and Boyle gave him a great ball.  Kruse

Running Backs:

  • Really nice move by Tra Carson, picking up the first down on a screen pass. Looked inside, but read his blocks outside for first down on third-and-long. Important for a RB to show that in the receiving game.  Wood
  • Wow fullback Tommy Bohanon just drilled Raiders safety Dallin Leavitt. You could hear the hit up here.  Owczarski
  • By far the best Tre Carson has looked at any point this offseason. Strong showing by him.  Herman
  • After Darrius Shepherd called for a hold to negate a 14-yard Tra Carson first down run, Tim Boyle goes right to Shepherd for a 22-yard gain.  Owczarski
  • Hold on Madison negates Carson's run. Malcolm Johnson had a nice block to help open a hole for his RB.  Hodkiewicz [Same play as above, but FB's block had more detail.]

Defensive Backs:

  • Not sure where he stands on the 53 but Chandon Sullivan’s been one of my favorite players of the offseason. Just always finds ways to show up.  Herman
  • Chandon Sullivan with three PBUs tonight. I think the Packers have six total.  Hodkiewicz
  • Josh Jackson gets the breakup on the deep and the Raiders will punt.  Hodkiewicz
  • Another PBU for Josh Jackson. Hodkiewicz
  • Heck of a play by Raven Greene on the pbu. Also, interesting that Josh Jackson was still in the slot. Which just seems so odd. Now Trevor Davis stumbles on the field similarly to how Tim Boyle did. I’d be so insanely careful with any players that could make the 53.  Herman

Safety:

  • Fourth safety spot is wide open and neither Natrell Jamerson nor Will Redmond have done anything to grab it. Disappointing preseasons for both.  Kruse

Linebackers:

  • Ty Summers' hustle down the field there was incredible. He literally ran 20 yards to get into the play.  Wood
  • Thank you, Brady Sheldon. Former Raiders picks off Peterman in the “end zone” on the two-point try to prevent this game from being tied.  Schneidman [Good reaction on a ball tipped up in the air]
  • Nice play by Brady Sheldon who all of a sudden is right in the thick of things at ILB with all the injuries.  AND: That Brady Sheldon hit is the type of hit you just live with and hope the b/s 15 yard penalties even out throughout the course of the year. (Please note they did not even out last year).  Herman
  • Curtis Bolton on crutches with a brace on his right knee.  Schneidman
  • James Crawford might be good on special teams but he looks like a lost cause on defense.  Kruse

Kicker/STs:

  • Punter JK Scott has had a second straight good game. Averaging 47.1 per punt gross and 42.5 net.  Silverstein

Offensive/Defensive Line:

  • Cole Madison called for his second hold of the half.  Owczarski
  • Cole Madison pancaked his guy at the second level. Naturally, it's called holding.  Kruse [It looked a lot like holding to me – Dexter Williams ran into Madison’s back initially since Cole was losing this rep initially.  Sorry for the editorial.]
  • Packers "starting" O-line: LT Alex Light LG Cole Madison C Lucas Patrick RG Justin McCray RT Adam Pankey.  Demovsky
  • [Later] Nijman in at LT, Adam Pankey moves to RG with deBeer coming in at RT. Madison still at LG and Patrick at C.  Hodkiewicz
  • Man, Lucas Patrick. Professional ball player. Good block in open space to get Carson open for the 11-yard screen.  Hodkiewicz  [Patrick played a ton at OC – only other center suited up was McCray, I think.]
  • Not sure if he'll make it but I'd want Lucas Patrick on my team.  Kruse [I think this is about Patrick going downfield to support WR after a vicious hit, and not necessarily OL play itself.]
  • Patrick and McCray are both having solid nights on the line.  Maggie Loney
  • The Packers didn't view Tyler Lancaster as "important" enough to sit tonight, but he has a significant role in the defense. They can't keep playing Kenny Clark at 80-plus percent like they did last year. Lancaster walked off under his own power, so perhaps he's ok. Still bad.  Jason Hirschhorn
  • The Packers open in base. Lancaster, Keke and Adams at DL. LBs are Fackrell, Gary, Summers and Bolton. DBs are Brown, Jackson, Redmond and Greene.  Hodkiewicz
  • Montravius Adams looks really good tonight too.  Kruse
  • Montravius Adams is playing his ass off tonight.  AND: Great quick first step from Adams on that second down run.  Nagler

Overall/Miscellaneous:

  • This field has been a complete slip show all night. Exhibit A for why players prefer natural grass.  Wood
  • Bubble guys would run on hot coals to make the team. Doesn't mean the Packers/NFL should let them.  Schneidman
  • Rodgers said they'll work on some Bears things in practice next week and then have a regular week of practice after the Chiefs game. Pretty much confirms he won't play vs. KC as expected.  Silverstein
  • And that's why it'd be so hard for the Packers to cut Trevor Davis. Not only does he have special-teams value, but his speed and agility are a really good scheme fit with Matt LaFleur. All he's got to do is stay healthy.  Wood
  • By my count, the Packers missed eight tackles. Seven in the first half. Zero misses for Summers.  Huber
  • Missed tackle from Curtis Bolton and Chandon Sullivan on third down. Epidemic continues.  Kruse [early in the game, IIRC.]

Ross Uglem has some nice video clips on his twitter account.  One of Sheldon with a nice tackle and another of Shepherd going up for a nice catch.  Click here to watch the clips.

 

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 23, 2019 at 12:31 pm

I chose to use Trevor Davis' photo at the top of this article because, well, duh. Still, Shepherd made two nice catches. Montravius Adams made a claim to get his photo up there, as did Boyle but to a lesser extent. Sullivan had several pass breakups but also got beat a few time.

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Turophile's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:10 pm

I really like the idea of Shepherd making the team. He has made splash plays regularly, he backs up Davis on ST as a punt returner and he backs up Allison as a slot receiver. Now THAT is good value for WR6 (with Davis also looking good value as WR5).

ESB's injury may well have opened the door for Shepherd, even though he might have to go on the PS briefly, until ESB has first made the team, and then immediately been put on IR to create the space for Shepherd.

As far as I can work it out, it means Lazard loses out (unless the Packers keep 7 WRs which I doubt). Obviously Moore also loses out, it's hard to imagine another team putting him on their 53 man squad, so he is there for the PS if the Packers want to continue with his development.

So immediately at cutdown it's Adams, MVS, Allison, Kumerow, ESB, Davis.
After cutdown (ESB goes to IR) it's Adams, MVS, Allsion, Kumerow, Davis, Shepherd

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stockholder's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:28 pm

I still say 7 Wrs. This now comes down to Moore or Lewis. Shepard will take ESB, place.

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holmesmd's picture

August 23, 2019 at 06:26 pm

Lazard is more like ESB than Shepherd is though.

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optimisticfan's picture

August 23, 2019 at 06:18 pm

Turophile,
I like your reasoning on roster decisions. Especially thought your projected 53 was the most well thought out I’ve seen (posted in the comments on Maggie Looney’s “Training camp wrap up” article on 8/20 if anyone else needs to look it up).

Question:
Does Shepherd have to pass waivers to replace ESB on the 53 even if they immediately place ESB on IR after making the 53? Or does Shepherd just have to pass waivers to be on a PS? If Shepherd does have to pass waivers to be on the 53 why risk it? Why not place ESB as a 7th receiver (behind Davis and Shepherd) on the 53 then drop ESB to IR and replace him with a non receiver on the 53? ( Like 4th RB in Carson or Looney, Fadol Brown, or Ramsey or Waived ILB from another team etc)

Likely Burks makes the 53 now if he is coming back in a few weeks but interesting to see how they address the ILB depth.

Here’s hoping Lazard or Moore (or both though highly unlikely) make it past waivers.

Also hope GB keeps Madison out of 4th preseason game and plays up him having an injury. Easier to slip him through to PS and keep Nijman or Patrick on the 53. Silver lining of these injuries.

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Turophile's picture

August 23, 2019 at 06:31 pm

Thanks for your comments optimisticfan.
My understanding is that Shepherd would have to pass waivers. Basically, other teams get a shot at him before Green Bay gets a chance to re-sign him.

This is why Shepherd is not necessarily the guy to cut (and hope he clears waivers). The guy to cut and re-sign is the guy the Packers think is least likely to be claimed by another team.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2019 at 07:53 pm

Burks conditioning shouldn't be a question. When he's cleared, he should be able to jump right in.

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scullyitsme's picture

August 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm

Dexter Williams must still be in the dog house. When he runs he looks so much better and quicker than Carson imo. Not sure why Carson is getting all the reps. Maybe they think they can stash Williams on the practice squad.

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Turophile's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:16 pm

Carson is looking better than he was, but I don't think he has the talent of Dexter Williams (who has annoyed coaches with the occasional mistake). I'm guessing it's A.Jones, J.Williams, D.Williams, T.Carson, K.Ford with 3-4 RBs kept.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 23, 2019 at 06:28 pm

There was a tweet about this. Carson does everything an RB is supposed to do, all reasonably well, too. Dexter makes mistakes in terms of assignments and has had some drops. D. Williams burst is evident when he decides to go.

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Spencer2101's picture

August 23, 2019 at 12:58 pm

Am I overthinking this, or are we the proverbial Box of Chocolates for the season opener? Gonna be interesting to see what da bares dial up in the opener. I love Lafleurs intensity, and thought process, but will it be enough?

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holmesmd's picture

August 23, 2019 at 06:31 pm

I predict the season opener in Chicago will be a nightmare for our rusty offense. Petine will have to keep serve on defense for GB to have any hope of winning that game. It will be a playoff atmosphere for game one and our starters haven’t seen really even any love game reps! It could go sideways very quickly if our D can’t hold serve with the Bears.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:29 pm

Last night's game really precluded much evaluation of the kicking game, but perhaps there's a trade partner out there that will allow the Packers to keep Ficken or Crosby away from the Bears...

profootballrumors.com/2019/08/falcons-may-replace-kicker-giorgio-tavecchio

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August 23, 2019 at 06:25 pm

What will Pettine dial up on trubitsky? I see turnovers and a road win.

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Bure9620's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:44 pm

Equinemious St. Brown with a high ankle sprain, likely 6 weeks, I wonder if Gute tries to stash him on IR for later return

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ShooterMcGee's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:55 pm

He still has to be on the 53 before he goes to the PUP.

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Bure9620's picture

August 23, 2019 at 01:59 pm

Hence, why I said IR, he cannot go on PUP as he was never on Preseason PUP

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2019 at 03:28 pm

He has to be on the 53 to go on IR with the chance to return. If he goes on IR now he cannot return this season.

Roberts and Campbell are the only PUP players, as they have not been healthy enough to practice all camp.

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greengold's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:54 pm

I believe Ibraheim Campbell is PUP eligible as well. That might not be a bad thing, being able to add a S of his caliber with his experience level already established in Pettine's scheme, later this season if needed.

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RWood832's picture

August 23, 2019 at 03:24 pm

IMO, McCray and Patrick both made the final 53 based on their play tonight. Versatile and powerful in the run game. I feel better about the OLine than I have in a few years. Let's hope the depth is not needed.

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August 23, 2019 at 03:52 pm

So basically, none of us really have a good idea of how this team will compete against the Bears. I guess you could say that every pre-season, but with a new offense, it is doubly true.

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