Packers Week 13 Snap Counts Versus The Eagles

 

Let's take a look at this week's snap counts.  The Packers elevated two players from the practice squad, offensive guard Ben Braden and tight end Dominque Daffney.  Braden was a covid replacement for RB AJ Dillon who is still on the Covid Reserve List.  This is Braden's second elevation, so if the Packers want to elevate him a third time they would have to sign him to the 53-man roster.  Zack Johnson is the only other guard on the practice squad.  The Packers do have OT Ryan Pope on the PS, while Jake Hanson is still on the Practice Squad Injured Reserve List.  The Packers have until December 9th to decide whether to activate Simon Stepeniak to the 53-man roster, waive him, or return him to the Injured Reserve List.

Inactive Players Jackson, Garvin, Austin, Rush and Love. 
Active/DNP QB Boyle
 

The decision to elevate Daffney was somewhat unexpected, at least by me, though tight ends are popular special teamers.  The Packers have already elevated Safety Henry Black twice, so the team would have to open a spot on the regular roster to make Black active.  Josh Jackson had been in the concussion protocol; he was listed as a limited participant on Wednesday and Thursday, but he was listed as a full participant on Friday and given no injury designation.  It is not clear to me if Jackson was a healthy scratch.    CB Stanford Samuels would have been a logical elevation, but the Packers might be saving his second elevation for a different opponent or the postseason.     

Last week there were only four inactive players and this week there were only five instead of the normal seven.  They could have elevated a second player from the PS at a cost of $29,725 and signed a player to the regular roster at a cost of $38,125, so the Packers saved $67,850 by having 51 players available.  That extrapolates out to $1.085M over 16 games.  Still, the Packers had 48 players active, and that is the maximum allowed.  Also, the Packers probably would not want to sign a player to the 53-man roster because that player would have to be released and go through waivers when the Packers activate AJ Dillon from the Covid Reserve and possibly activate Stepaniak from the NFI/PUP list.   

 

Name Snaps % ST
Jenkins 61 100 5 - 19%
Turner 61 100  
Bakhtiari 61 100  
Patrick 61 100  
Wagner 61 100 5 - 19%
Nijman     5 -19%
Runyan     5 - 19%
Braden     5 - 19%
       
Rodgers   100  
Boyle DNP    
       
Adams 54 89  
MVS 46 75  
Lazard 42 69  
St. Brown 11 18 1 - 4%
Taylor 5 8 14 - 52%
       
Tonyan 38 62 6 - 22%
Lewis 35 57  
Daffney 6 10 5 - 19%
Sternberger 3 5 1 - 4%
       
A. Jones 40 66  
J. Williams 21 34 8 - 30%
Ervin 4 7 4 - 15%
       
21 played Off.      

Coach LaFleur has stated that the Packers would play their five best offensive linemen this year, and Jon Runyan apparently was not one of those five.  Instead, Wagner was inserted at right tackle with Turner moving to right guard.  Jenkins again played center and Patrick moved to left guard, relegating Runyan to special teams-only.  That decision meant more moving chairs and arguably a diminution in continuity and cohesion. 

The Packers did not have much success running the ball in the first half, gaining just 18 yards on 8 carries for a 2.3 yard per carry average with a long of 6 yards.  Jones gained 16 yards on 5 carries and Williams gained 2 yards on 2 carries.  The running game became somewhat more consistent in the second half and the Packers broke two nice runs, one by Williams for 18 yards and another by Jones for 77 yards.  Those long runs allowed the Packers to fill the stat sheet, ending with 25 carries for 149 yards and a 6.0 yard average.  Rodgers was hit 6 times and sacked twice.  Rodgers entered the game having been hit just 16 times in the first 11 games.  Despite the increased pressure, Rodgers was accurate and diced up the Eagles despite a stout Eagles defensive line.  Rodgers spread the ball around well, completing passes to seven different players in the first half.  Ervin left the game early with an injury.

Davante Adams had a fine game with 121 yards on 10 receptions on 12 targets, including two difficult catches, and two touchdowns.  Allen Lazard chipped in a substantial 50 yards.  St. Brown caught one pass for 7 yards but could not haul in a catchable pass from Rodgers.  Valdes Scantling did not catch a pass, including a long 56 yard pass from Rodgers that hit him in the hands/arm/body.  Robert Tonyan caught 4 passes on 5 targets for 39 yards, including a 25 yards touchdown pass.  Marcedes Lewis caught one pass and rumbled for 36 yards.  Lewis also threw some great blocks, including one on Jones' long run. Jace Sternberger left the game on the 12th play with an injury, which probably is the reason Daffney actually played 6 snaps on offense.

 

Name Snaps % STs
Savage 62 100 5 - 19%
Amos 62 100 1 - 4%
Alexander 61 98 1 - 4%
Sullivan 60 97 13 - 48%
King 59 95 1 - 4%
Greene 32 52 13 - 48%
Redmond 9 15 20 - 74%
Hollman 4 6 16 - 59%
Scott     12 - 44%
       
Kirksey 62 100 3 - 11%
Z. Smith 52 84 1 - 4%
P. Smith 47 76 1 - 4%
Gary 36 58 3 - 11%
Martin 16 26 8 - 30%
Ramsay 4 6 21 - 78%
Summers     21 - 78%
Burks     21 - 78%
Barnes     11 - 41%
       
Clark 44 71 1 - 4%
Lowry 31 50 8 - 30%
Keke 24 39 6 - 22%
Lancaster 14 23 10 - 37%
Winn 3 5 4 - 15%
23 played Def.      

The defense allowed one touchdown and a field goal.  The opposing quarterbacks completed just 11 of 27 attempts for 188 yards, though four of the completions went for twenty or more yards, including a 32-yard touchdown pass for which Jaire Alexander appeared to be responsible.  The Eagles ran 20 times for 88 yards, a 4.4 yard average, excluding QB Jalen Hurts, who scrambled 5 times for 29 yards. The Packers were helped by the ineptitude of Carson Wentz, and Hurts was not much better.  The Packers defense did give up a touchdown in the fourth quarter.

Keke (2 sacks plus 2 tackles for loss), Gary (1.5 sacks plus a TFL) and Zadarius Smith (1.5 sacks and a TFL) had very nice games.  Kenny Clark had 3 tackles and several pressures, including hitting the arm of the quarterback on a pass.  I counted no less than 5 Lowry sightings (that is, positive plays), including a sack and 2 quarterback hits.  Preston Smith contributed a quarterback hit, TFL, and had a half sack.  Billy Winn left the game early with a triceps injury and did not return.  

Raven Greene hit the opposing quarterback twice and had a half sack.  King gave up a long pass but otherwise he and Alexander provided good coverage and time for the front seven to get home.  I thought Amos came up and made some nice tackles to limit gains.  Kirksey led the team with 7 tackles, 5 solo.     
 

The Packers played 1.87 true defensive linemen and 2.24 outside linebackers on average per play.  Preston Smith continued to receive more snaps than Rashan Gary, though he limped off the field at one point.  Kamal Martin did not get an expanded role and Barnes could not get on the field for defensive snaps, though he played special teams extensively.  

    

Name Snaps % ST
Crosby     11 - 41%
Scott     9 - 33%
Bradley     9 - 33%

Crosby made a  40-yard field goal and three of four extra point attempts.  He has missed 3 extra points now in 2020.  On the other hand, he is 14 for 14 on field goals.  Crosby kicked off 6 times and had 2 touchbacks.  The Eagles returned four of the kickoffs for an average of 29.0 yards, including a long of 46 yards.  Scott punted four times for a 48.5.gross and a 30.3 net average.  One was inside the twenty and one was returned 73 yards for a touchdown to make the game a one-score game for a time.  Tyler Ervin returned one punt for zero yards but also returned two kickoffs for an average of 27.5 yards with a long of 33 yards.  Malik Taylor returned two kickoffs after Ervin left the game, one for 23 yards and the other for 22 yards.  It was not a good day for the special teams.

 

 

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 07, 2020 at 07:15 am

I used a photo of Ricky Wagner (sorry, i couldn't find a photo of him in a Packers' uniform). It looks like LaFleur thinks he is one of the five best OL, so that seems the most significant thing regarding playing time going forward.

The pecking order seems settled. No expanded role for Kamal Martin and Barnes can't find the field. Preston slightly ahead of Gary but both play extensively (though Gary was limping for a while there). Lowry ahead of Keke, but both had nice games against Philly, with Keke having some splash plays. Austin vs. Ervin if and when he regains his health and their usage. Maybe Malik Taylor can make some noise. Daffney might have to play some with Sternberger being evaluated for a concussion/head injury.

Menenga - hated the hire when it was made.

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stockholder's picture

December 07, 2020 at 07:46 am

Ervin and Winn - went out hurt

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stockholder's picture

December 07, 2020 at 07:42 am

Week 13 - to get Wagner back on the field? And you put his picture up? Give me Jenkins first.

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Johnblood27's picture

December 07, 2020 at 08:00 am

I got this TGR...

This article is about snap counts. PT.

While Jenkins is a true stud, the point of Wagners pic is that his snap count was a bit of a surprise with the assumption being that Runyon would get the start and play a majority of the snaps.
Therefore the Wagner start and 100% of the snaps was a bit of a surprise and therefore newsworthy.
There wasn't any other anomoly in the snap counts for the team.

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 08:42 am

Wagner has been very good when he has played RT. Though I’m excited by Runyon, I don’t think it’s close between the two. The surprise if there was any was that they feel Turner/Wagner is better than Runyon/Turner on the right. Since Wagner has been as good as Turner at RT, that means Turner over Runyon at guard. Good as Runyon has been for a rookie, that isn’t perhaps as surprising as it seems and shows faith in Patrick’s ability to move sides with a week of preparation.

Daffney is labeled a TE but is, or was in college, more of a fullback who can block. I think he maybe a candidate for the Lewis role in future perhaps. Seems like a good ST type and possibly someone who could do some of what Lovett did (essentially FB type role). Maybe over optimistic on my part, but we have not replaced Lovett.

MVS’s drop was frustrating but his blocking has been consistently a big plus for a while. Can’t say I expected that to be a strength from him, but having him and Lazard excelling as blocking WRs is great. I am puzzled about Taylor. Am I the only one who wonders if he would do more if given the opportunity?

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dobber's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:42 am

I think you're right on Daffney: he's an undersized guy--6'2", 243 and likely a candidate for the Lovett/Deguara role and as a ST fill-in than the Lewis (in-line blocker, 6th OL) role. It could be he's auditioning for a spot in 2021, but I don't think he sticks past this season.

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:04 am

Odds are against him sticking of course, but he is the nearest thing to a FB we have. Without knowing more about his ability, I suppose it’s at least a positive sign for him that he got a few snaps on O. Would be nice to have that option this season.

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PatrickGB's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:55 am

I his press conference, Matt referred to having “The Fullback” who was in on a play. That might be who he was referring to because we don’t have a fullback listed on the roster.
I also think that we are missing having Lovett on ST’s. Linebackers, TE’s and Fullbacks are often key on special teams.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:50 pm

I think taylor is similar to jake kumerow. He can catch but is not overly quick or fast. He does what he has to do and is a good reserve. But lafleur would rather roll out multiple tes or mvs just because of his speed.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:44 am

Taylor is there for sp teams. Maybe they miss Kumerow's ability as a gunner, ask Gutedkunst.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 08, 2020 at 11:41 pm

Jarrett bush and jeff janis need to stop by the facility.

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Guam's picture

December 07, 2020 at 07:54 am

Really would like to see Gary and Keke get more snaps. Gary has had several good games in a row and is coming on strong in his second year. Preston Smith lost edge contain several times during the first two Eagles series and then got better. Gary was solid all game. Keke has flashed a few times previously and then had a strong game yesterday. Hopefully he is on the same second year trajectory as Gary and starts taking more snaps away from Lowery.

I was a bit surprised Runyon didn't get more playing time, but against a stout Eagles defensive line I was very happy with the O-line play. MLF went with the veterans and it paid off. Keep the same five guys next year and add in Runyon, Stepeniak, Njiman and Hanson and the Packers will have a quality O-line without the need to draft more.

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 08:52 am

I thought they were more conservative with Gary after he came out. He started the game really well. After that, he was not a problem but a little less impactful. I agree on Keke. Would like to have seen more of Winn had injury not intervened.

My injury worry is Greene. We have no like replacement. We do now for Ervin. I’m disappointed that the reaction wasn’t just to insert Martin for Greene, but I suppose by then they weren’t going to run. Barnes may have been being worked back slowly, he hasn’t been able to practice while on Covid, so it would make sense even without his appearance on the injury report. That said, I don’t see Pettine using 2 ILBs regularly, let alone 3.

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Guam's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:20 am

No question the Packer defense is much better with Greene than without. However an injury to Greene will open up snaps for Martin and Barnes and that may not be all bad. I think those two are the Packer's starting ILBs next year and the more playing time they get this year, the better.

At least Pettine had Winn activated and was open to playing him. Maybe Pettine actually looked at the stat sheets and noticed his productivity.....! Now lets hope the injury is minor.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:46 am

Play more 4-2 looks and get Scott involved as the nickel guy.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:55 pm

Lets see if pettine is willing to go against his eagerness to play dime with redmond and instead play kamal martin more. We could use raven greene for tj hockensen but kirksey actually did a good job against hock in week 2. Kamal martin was in the backfield alot in his limited action sunday. Lets hope mike adjusts and plays him more this sunday especially with greene out.

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murf7777's picture

December 07, 2020 at 12:34 pm

I also saw Gary lose the edge on a run by Hurts. That said, you can't always cover the whole field perfectly, especially with a running QB and I agree thinking Gary is playing better then Preston. I do believe Preston the last couple of games is playing better which is a great sign if he keeps it up. We will need all three as it can help keep players fresh.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:58 pm

Im looking forward to seeing gary this week against stafford. Enjoying watching this d line play up to their abilities.

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Lphill's picture

December 07, 2020 at 08:06 am

Lowry had too many snaps, Barnes 0 ? K Martin 16 ? And no Runyan after a solid performance last week?

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 08:14 am

As I understand it, a Covid elevation does not count as one of the two allowed for a player, thus Braden could be elevated again as he was a replacement for a player on the Covid reserve list.

Maybe I’m missing a nuance, but that would seem to be why we have designated Covid replacements for as many as on that reserve list that week ( now only Dillon).

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:36 am

Yes, that occurred to me as well and it is an excellent point. I looked for a specific explanation about that including this article on OTC but I didn't find a crystal clear section on that point. It does say a covid elevation does not count against the two normal elevations from the PS that teams are allowed each week.

So, I am not as certain as I'd like to be when I write stuff but I could find nothing suggesting what you wrote either.

However, making Braden the covid elevation might make sense then? Of course, I am not sure how good Braden even is but he's apparently the 8th best offensive linemen or the next best OG at any rate.

https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/33/sectio...

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:31 am

I found a statement saying that players elevated as Covid replacements would not have that count against the 2 allowed call-ups. However, there was some timing commentary that rendered it unclear if Braden being called up on these circumstances would in fact qualify as a Covid replacement.

After further digging I conclude it does count against the two allowed in this circumstance.

The exception requires an initial diagnosis/risk categorization after 4pm eastern the day before the game by the looks of it based on an agreement dated August 3. Found it on the NFLPA website, sorry, can’t link effectively.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 07, 2020 at 05:26 pm

Nice catch CW. That is the agreement between the union and the league and I understand it is for this season only. (That could change depending on how fast and deep the vaccines get to the population in general. This came up during a discussion of Covid-19 protocols in the U.S. Military)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:10 am

DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN NUTS AND BOLTS!!

Thanks for the input, CW and Flak. I conclude that being activated as a Covid Replacement does not count against the number of times a player can be elevated from the PS to the active roster on game day and does not count against the two normal elevations teams can make each week.

"11/14: S Henry Black and WR Juwann Winfree elevated from the practice squad to the active roster for gameday as COVID-19 replacements; CBs KeiVarae Russell and Stanford Samuels elevated from the practice squad to the active roster for gameday"

First: Henry Black was elevated as a normal elevation on 10/24 and again on 10/31, and then he was elevated as a Covid-19 replacement on Nov. 5th and again as a Covid replacement on 11/14. That's four times. So unless the Packers are breaking the rules, Covid doesn't count against how many elevations a team can make nor against the limit of being elevated twice for any single player.

So, the Packers elevated four players from the PS for the 11/15 game. Two were replacements for players on the Covid list, Dillon (placed there on Nov. 2 and is still on the list!) and Barnes (placed there on Nov. 6), and the other two were normal elevations. [Love was also placed on the Covid list on Nov. 6 but he was activated on Nov. 10 in time for the game.]

Now, the rule about activating yet another PS player is described by CBS sports in their Sept. 5, 2020, article by Jared Dubin as follows:

"Teams will also be allowed to activate a practice-squad player on game days up until 90 minutes before kickoff if a player on the active roster tests positive (or needs to be preventively quarantined) after the Saturday at 4 p.m. deadline."

So it appears to me that if the Packers had had someone test positive after submitting their list by 4:00 pm Saturday, the team could have elevated a fifth player to the roster AND have made that player game active if done at least 90 minutes prior to the game.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:09 pm

Thanks TGR. As explained to me (this was during the Houston game) the NFL did have a limit on the number of times a player could be called up, but the league scrapped it when they realized how quickly an entire roster could be infected. The Ravens are a prime example. While reports are limited, there looks like more than a couple of players on their roster tested positive. So the need for player replacements quickly. I wonder how much the news effected the Steelers last night in their game with Washington (Blanks). All in all, the NFL been careful but also very lucky with the virus this season.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:00 am

It sure what the rationale for taking Martin out after having made a TFL and an earlier near TFL. Granted, the stop was subsequently made, but still a head scratcher.
Overall, the defensive substitutions, or lack thereof, are puzzling. It would be nice to find some DLs who can do both effectively.

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dobber's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:38 am

It's a league based on situational play and sub packages. I agree with you: it would be great to have more 3-down players who are effective in just about any circumstance, but it's a luxury most teams can't afford.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 07, 2020 at 11:04 am

You want to have guys fresh in the 4th quarter of the 12th game of the season, too. I think some people have forgotten how tired you can get playing football and how nice it is to have a minute to catch your breath.

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PhantomII's picture

December 07, 2020 at 02:15 pm

What you want is 3 and out, then take a breather.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:02 am

Duplicate

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TheVOR's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:05 am

What a huge difference it is having Lazard back in the fold, dude is a beast, really like that football player, very active blocker, decent route runner, just can't say enough. Really happy to see him back out there.

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Bure9620's picture

December 08, 2020 at 04:20 am

I would like mention again, as the original Lazard truther all along, Gute released Lazard in favor of Darrius Sheperd last year and exposed him to waivers......then kept elevating Sheperd this year as though he was trying to justify his original decision while Sheperd continues to get opportunities showing nothing........that will always be a black mark on Gute's resume for me..........I will never get it.......ever.....planet earth is now back on its axis

Hell, if Rodgers doesn't request Lazard get on the field last year against Detroit.......are we even in this position now???? Is Lazard on the roster??

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:55 am

Very lucky he didn't get caught in the void, like Ted with Hill. Very lucky Lazard went un-drafted by the "best and the brightest" from the Pro Personnel Departments manning the control rooms in NFL land.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:32 am

The 4th and 18 touchdown pass to Ward: I am not sure if that was on Alexander or Savage or both. In the article, I wrote it was on Alexander, but listening to 1130, the beat writer (is that Tom Silverstein?) said it was on Savage. At any rate, he is coming over to help but doesn't get there. So, IDK, but I wrote it so I own it.

I thought the offensive scheme provided AR with a lot of easy passes, and when it didn't AR was very accurate and made good things happen.

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dobber's picture

December 07, 2020 at 09:39 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that was a situation where Hurts was extending the play with his legs. It's hard for coverage to hold up forever in those situations, especially as defenders start to come up to play run.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:10 am

Correct. Just watched highlights on youtube and Hurt rolls to his right and hits Ward near the right sideline in the endzone. People were bemoaning the defense and calling for Pettine's head for giving up points late in games due to soft zone coverage; someone pointed out that the Eagles beat our best.

Your point is good, too: the QB just bought a fair amount of time. Looks like Hurts releases the ball about 4.2 to 4.3 seconds after the snap.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 07, 2020 at 05:42 pm

Me among others last night. Sprung out of the couch screaming like a mad man over that. Alexander had Ward on man while Savage was 1 high and shading over to Kings side. The DL with the Smiths and Gray were playing rush contain. Packers were in combo, but were not playing soft. Alexander lost contact when he was sucked in. Natural reaction, but he broke contain and let Ward pass him. Savage was on the other side and had a bad angle and... we all know the rest. DB coach Gray is going to give Alexander grief over this brain fart in the Secondary room.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 08, 2020 at 05:59 am

If he stays with the guy it would be a pick.

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Coldworld's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:35 am

I thought on a rewatch as I did live: Alexander got sucked up closer to the play while it was extended. That allowed the receiver to get in behind him as opposed to the play being in front of him (yes, they were in prevent). Savage seems to notice this but arrived too late.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 07, 2020 at 01:14 pm

Jaire has to watch his man, not the QB.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:02 pm

True. But jaire made a shitload of nice plays in that game. He will learn from this experience.

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NitschkeFan's picture

December 07, 2020 at 10:44 am

TGR you write Lewis had a big block on Jones run but I thought it was Tonyan (unless Lewis was inside of Tonyan?)

Regardless, watching the replay you can see almost the entire offense seems to be running down the field and even Rodgers was looking to block just at the edge of my screen. I practically teared up watching everyone hustle down to block (MVS & Bakhtiari obviously most prominent)

Oops, just rewatched it an yes Lewis threw a key block on a LB right as Jones hits the hole. And Bakhtiari! Slight push to steer the right DE up field, then Bakh seals the inside helping create the hole, then he runs down the field looking to throw another block! F’ing beautiful

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flackcatcher's picture

December 07, 2020 at 06:16 pm

Thanks TGR, looks like we are seeing the Packers core roster for their final four games and playoff run. Couple short comments. The offense really misses Lovett at FB. Again reminded how important ErvIn is on both ST and in the pass game. Menenga. UGH. Pettine is playing his hybrids over the current ILB group. Another example of why Raven Greene is so important to this defense, he lets Pettine do so much at the LOS. What are the Packers going to do about King? Packers in the final 4 weeks have two CB who play various coverages and leave out on and island. (No one wants to throw to Alexander's side. Pro bowl level play for the most part. Taunting Wertz during the game. 'Throw at me bro.' He's been that good)

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