"With the 10th pick in the draft the Green Bay Packers select..."

"NO PLAYOFFS FOR YOU"... So what are you saying, the playoffs are in line for YOUR Team? Because it sure doesn't sound like the Packers are.

No soup for us!! One year.

Not this game. Mike coached a decent game. Ted T drafted a bunch of nobodys and they are showing their stuff which is nothing. You cannot win with zero pass D, it bites you in the ass all the time.
DId Mathews, Perry, Datone play?

When has MM ever coached us into a win. ARod has carried him. Now that the team is decimated it shows.

At least the label "Mashed Potato Mike" is finally getting some play!

I love when people comapred 2 different type of games from 2 different eras. Long time ago, the stzar of the football team was RB, not QB nor WR. Running Back (Fullback!). At that tmes scores was like 12-9, 6-3 etc... Today's game are regulary over 25 points for winner at least! So, forget Lombardi, this is the new game now.
I'm frustrated as most of you, too. But I really can not understand why nobody, but nobody says 1 thing. When you ask to much from one position (like most of you expect from Packers safeties) the additional job might not be done to well, but you'll also see dropping in basic job performance (like Morgan Burnett was dear in the light for most season while he was playing with uncapable companion!). My God, Packers secondary playing with 3 and 4 CB and back up is 7 CB. Why? Because all others are injured (remember how many - they were considered to be the deepest position group on the Packers roster)... Yeah, you may realy ask why they are not performing well...

Problem is they have had to many key injuries to key players. Let's not forget we are still playing without our top 2 CBs. We are seeing that players can fill in short term. But there is a reason why guys like Hyde are backups. Over time they get exposed.

"lots of positions OF NEED"

Think about all the potential holes next year with the possible losses of Shields, Cook, Perry, Lang and Lacy. On offense - RB,OL,TE and possibly WR.
On defense - CB,ILB,OLB and DL.

Just about every position. Not enough draft choices to cover this even if you hit on them all.

The present sucks and the future doesn't look much brighter.

It will take 5 drafts to fix that mess in GB,injuries or not that team is in serious decline with no end in sight.

Yes only game we need to win. Otherwise Top 5 draft pick is the goal now. Lost year so we might as well be smart for the future

I'll bet if we tried, we could be in the Top 5 on Draft Day.

Hyde is not a starter. He is a depth guy asked to start. That's where the problem starts.

"So you're telling me there's a chance?"

Sucks to know the season is essentially over before week 12. Not mathematically over, but essentially it's over.

Time to start watching college more. Right now regardless of FAs I think the top needs are CB, RB, TE, OLB.

Help Wanted; 1 QB, 2 CBs, 2 Lbs, 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 DE/elephants, 1 GM, 1DC, 4 new Wrs. We just don't have enough draft picks. The ship is sinking.

Very well said Al! The first guy wearing this disaster is TT. Whiffing over the years on pick after pick on defense since 2010. Ever since Collins got hurt in 2011 this defense has failed routinely in big moments to get the key stop they need to win a close ball game.

MM may be a successful coach but he makes some horrendus decisions when in crunch time and under the gun in close games and in the playoffs.

Im sorry but capers has to go after this yr as well i dont care how injured your team is you cant justify keeping your job after the playoff meltdowns coupled with what were seeing this season. I could go on but I will save you great readers the time.

I can see getting beat on the deep ball once in a while by a well thrown ball. Really hard to stop a throw right into the receivers hands in full stride. But my God, are we horrible over the middle too. And on third down. And in giving up big runs.

I've seen some of the worst defenses and worst single game performances ever under the Capers regime. Nice guy, works hard, maybe his schemes are sound on paper, but it just isn't working. Maybe it's too complicated for our personnel.

Like I said mid season last season. Fire Mike McCarthy. Where are all those MM lovers now? Sitting on their little weenies.

Jared Cook looks like what we thought he could be and also what we feared he might be. He can split out wide and get separation, and play inline. His fumble in not quite garbage time ended our chances and diminished his luster. He also dropped two passes, albeit in garbage time: still, I don't like to see it. When it counted, he was the bulk of the offense. [I missed the whole first half due to Folk Fair, but I just reviewed the play by play. Did Cook play in the first half?]

We should not expect Dix to be Nick Collins. Dix just doesn't have the speed and isn't the athlete that Collins was. Dix isn't going to range far over and actually help a CB defend a pass regularly. Dix can be a nice FS, not a great one. Burnett is just okay in coverage when he has a good year.

My guy, Carl Bradford, got to play, and the results were the same for him as they have been for nearly all practice squad guys who are forced to play: he wasn't ready, like Don Jackson wasn't ready. I have to say that Bradford looked bad. I have no idea what Practice Squad guys do but clearly they get zero reps.

Barclay had to play. 1 of his 2 penalties hurt. AR did not have a great pocket in the 2nd half, but the OL generally gave him adequate time.

If we lose to Philly next week and Detroit and/or MN win, we might as well play Spriggs, Murphy, Fackrell (at ILB as well), Brice, Evans, Hawkins, and Hundley. Not as starters, and not all at the same time, but I'd give many of them 25 snaps each game.

4-12

I don't know why everybody is complaining. You should be proud of yourself. You predicted that. Loss to Washington. They have very good to excellent offense and we have average to under average D. Our offense again started 3 and out three times in a row. So, all you saying is that our coaches are overcoached?
I do n ot see that way. I will say, until 4 Q, they were in the game with very good team for Victory with 3rd preseason game roster on the field. I say they did a hell of a job.
Now, you can say that they should prepare team better. OK. Tell me, what is your suggestion how to prepare Carl Bradford better? Or Jeff Janis? Or any of back up safety, CB? You can not play with 7 players & 4 rookies on D and expect to stop one of the most explosive offense. But Packers almost did...
Yes, I know woulda, coulda, shoulda...
Be reasonable...
I'm just sad that Packers did not win for Adam...

It's very telling when our biggest deep threat is a TE.
Our D is one of the worst in the nfl. The quality is just not there. The defensive line is manhandled most of the time (yes we have an occasional sack but aside from that zip...) and it further exposes the problems we have in the backfield.
Since 2011 TT has missed badly on D. We have plenty of average/below average/poor players on that side of the ball. Not one good player let alone a difference maker.
The roster was badly overrated.
Time for a reset.

Well I expected a loss by at least 2 TDs and I was right.

I get that many people want to use injuries as an excuse, and there certainly is always a reason that some players start while others are backups, but every team has injuries. What we are seeing is that some positions perceived as strengths are anything but. CB is the prime example (and don't get me wrong, I thought that was the deepest position of the roster before the season!). I get it, Shields and Randall are out, but Randall hasn't played well before his injury either. And I do understand that the young CBs can get beat physically or with speed by opposing receivers, but what I really cannot understand is how they don't even know who to cover most of the time - there always seems to be an opposing WR just running downfield completely open... Makes one wonder what they do in practice. To me, clearly a coaching issue. I never have been high on Joe Whitt, and I think it is time after the season to clean house, and start with coaches.

Also, Matthews and Peppers are clearly way beyond their prime. Peppers will be gone, but Matthews still has a big contract. He has to move back inside, as outside he cannot even beat a 3rd stringer anymore... People want to be critical of Perry, but he is one of the few playing hard and having some success...

Dropvante was back in full force...

Finally, if one thinks Cook is the savior of this team, then good luck with that - will make some plays, even big plays, but then also just drop a pass or fumble at the wrong time... Basically, a faster, bigger Finley...

Sad day, thanks to TT. He does nothing but draft Corners and Wide Receivers. So what difference would it be if the Packers draft l st or last he will draft a receiver. Starks, Barclay , have to go. without a running game the offense is null and void. Packers have absolutely no speed. This team seems to be dead on their feet, and when they get behind they seem to be done. By way Croatpackerfan, I watch the Browns yesterday and I couldn't tell who was who after watching the Packers. GM Murphy has a decision to make...I hope he has the guts to get rid of TT and MM. Hey Mike you brag about your coaching ability and record...well you also had to Hall fame qbs Farve and Rodgers. only one way to go and that's up....I hope

I see the Packers finishing 7 and 9. They will lose to Philly, Seattle and Lions. They should be Chicago, Minn and maybe the Texan. I hope I'm wrong, b ut unless something drastically changes, that's my opinion. Thanks...HAPPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE.

The two big turds in the toilet bowl, MM, TT and the smaller turds, Capers and the rest of the staff, except for James Campen, all need to be flushed.

Barclay and Janis need to go...tomorrow.

Find two CB's on the waiver wire if at all possible.

Trade Matthews during the off season.

Get Rodgers to restructure his contract to open up some money.

Sign a few quality Free Agents with that money for next season.

Try to sign Lacy and Perry to one year deals.

Don't re-sign Hyde.

Datone Jones needs to go.

Peppers needs to go.

Draft some damn speed in the secondary and MLB.

Have young Wolf take over as GM. As for head coach, I really have to be honest and say I have no idea, other than NFL experience, young and offensive minded.

What is really bothering about this team, is the lack of basics they don't seem to know how to tackle by wrapping up. Injuries are part of the game, next guy up has to perform. Joe Thomas looks terrible as a regular inside LB see why he is normally just in pass coverage. Both MM and TT need to move on take Capers with them. Week to week you don't know who is going to step up D Adams sorry not a fan, give his reps to Allison Jordy Nelson has not returned yet too early to turn his page. Cook looked like guy we hoped were getting but who knows, Starks tries really hard but is a 3rd down back. Tall order ahead I will still tune in as most of my life 58 years I have seen some worse from GB. Too many injuries time to look at strength and conditioning coach.

Until they can't mathematically make the playoffs, I'm going to believe they can.

Enjoy the ride, even when it has some major bumps. Things change very quickly in football.

Yup, this secondary sucks right now, for sure. Still some football left though and Packers still have to play both teams that they need to beat for the NFC north.

Anything can happen. They can lose a bunch more games or they can get on a streak. We will see.

- Ray