Packers Vs. Lions: First Impressions

My immediate thoughts on the Packers - Vikings game without benefit of a re-watch.

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First third and five, a simple quick slant to Cook. That's all I've ever wanted on thrid down. Just get the first - take your shots downfield on earlier downs. A real pet peeve for me.

Another pet peeve, the second and 10 shotgun handoff. And it goes for little gain. Can't fix all my pet peeves at once, I guess.

A lot of people underestinated this Packers defensive line. Kenny Clark, Brian Price and Christian Ringo all getting snaps on the Lions' first drive and all with a positive impact.

Note to Ted Thompson: Keep drafting Stanford players. Montgomery with the absolutely brilliant move touching the kickoff from out of bounds.

The Aaron Rodgers we are seeing this first half - getting the ball out quick, taking what is there, not trying for the big play every time, is pretty much unstoppable.

Packers youth in the secondary getting a chance to show their stuff with Shields and Burnett out. Gunter, Hawkins and Brice all making some plays.

I have never thought much of Eric Ebron, but he's having himself a day in the middle of the field.

Matthew Stafford is throwing it up for grabs. Packers could have a few INTs already.

Secondary takes another hit - Damarious Randall goes out.  (ended up returning in second half)

Well, I predicted a 33-17 win for the Packers and here we are at 31 points already with a minute left in the half..

Halftime: Packers 31 - Lions 10

Jayrone Elliot picking up Datone Jones' snaps today. Once he's in a groove, not a lot you can do to stop him.

Jared Cook and Aaron Ripkowski are also out for the game. Roster taking its all around.

Have to give some credit to Detroit - they are going after the Packers' decimated secondary (now 31-17).

Middle of the field continues to be a safe zone for opposing WR or TEs. How many years have we been saying that for?

Marvin Jones just keeps finding the hole in the zone between CB Randall and S Clinton-Dix, who always seems to be late in helping.

Eddie Lacy was much more decisive in his running today. Cut out the tip toe hesitating, picked a hole and went full bore. The difference in his effectiveness was very apparent.

JC Tretter moves so well downfield. Wish they would get him out there on screens more often.

Final Score: Packers 34, Detroit 27

 

Final thoughts:

Do we credit Mike McCarthy for changing the offensive approach or Aaron Rodgers for taking the easy completions when he has them?

Why does the Packers' defense always seem to let one guy have a career day against them? Although in this case, you could argue for BOTH Ebron and Jones.

Lane Taylor is showing me I wasn't wrong in thinking Josh Sitton was a bit overrated.

Best $5M Packers spent his offseason might have been the one year deal for Nick Perry. He's being the difference maker you expect from a first round pick.

Where the hell is the deep safety help for Randall when he's on the opposing team's best receiver?

Hate a week 4 bye, but Damn the #Packers hospital ward needs it.

Will the Packers ever have a true "laugher" again? 31-3 lead wasn't enough?

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:00 pm

No. 1 lesson learned today - PLEASE COME BACK SAM SHIELDS!!

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:15 pm

I'm so torn on this. We definitely need him, but five concussions is no joke.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:41 pm

I'd say let him come back, but one more and he may seriously have to consider retiring.

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:35 pm

They've got to find SOMEONE...

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 26, 2016 at 03:52 am

They will get better, but can those kids win a super bowl? flip side they will have to cut or trade a promising player and a draft pick(s). Tough decisions. TT I trust.

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al bundy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:24 pm

Pass d sucks with him or without. They look for who rollins or randall is covering and thats were the ball is going. until these guys learn to cover or are replaced, teams will exploit this. The lions could have possibly won if they would have given up the run early on and passpassed passed. They founfd out to late this was the route to take.

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holmesmd's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:00 pm

Solid win. Still many lessons to be learned. Lacy is legit. We need to fix the back end. If the pass rush doesn't get home, these guys can't cover a bed with a blanket. Smh. Good win

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Lphill's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:01 pm

Bench Randall after the bye no way he can cover Cruz or Beckem .giving up 200 yards is unacceptable .

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:07 pm

The Giants are similar to the Lions, offensively, only their WR talent is much better. If the Packers don't get better over the bye, that game is going to be in the 40s...

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:21 pm

Dline played well against the run, but there wasn't much pass rush, which helped Stafford pick apart the secondary. Hopefully when Clay and Datone come back that will help both parts of the D.

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:36 pm

Lack of depth (and no way Elliott's in game shape) means pass rushers had to be gassed there at the end... and they looked like it.

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Farts_After_Wins's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:06 pm

*poot*

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TommyG's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:36 pm

This feels so odd to say but I actually missed this guy.

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Kyle Graham's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:08 pm

The defensive performance I expected with 5 starters out. Kudos to McCarthy for switching to some quick hitters. The play calling got a tad bit conservative in the second half but Lacy was looking really good. I'm very happy. Now it's time for the bye that has come at a perfect time.

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BELIEVER's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:15 pm

The play calling was crap in the second half. MaCarthy wet himself. Cobb showed he don't belong starting. Him and Adams need to sit. Rodgers is back, Nelson is back and so is MaCarthy. Defense is banged up and still won. Good game.

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MarkinMadison's picture

September 25, 2016 at 06:01 pm

The play calling in the second have was designed to burn clock and give the defense a rest. TOP was 2:1 in favor of the Lions in the first half, despite the score. With a depleted defense, they were getting really gassed.

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:22 pm

"Cobb showed he doesn't belong starting."

You can show yourself out now.

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Nick Perry's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:18 pm

The Packers looked like the Packers in the first half. Jordy looks like he's rounding into shape.

The Packers look like the Packers again in the 2nd half, the Packers of the last 14 games. McCarthy had that really stupid look on his face right before Rodgers ran for a first down to basically seal the win. Rodgers wasn't going to let Mental Mike F*** up another one though he seemed to try.

WHY does it feel no matter how far ahead the Packers get it's never safe. I know the Lions are better than previous years but it's still the Lions. Randell hit the Sophomore Slump going 110 MPH. My God Son!!!

Nick Perry was a beast. 2 Sacks, 2 TFL...He's making more money for next year by the week.

Edit... A win is a win so it was definitely better than the last 2 games offensively.

Thank GOD it's a Bye week next week. This team is wounded badly!!!

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:16 pm

For Nelson, this is essentially like the start of the regular season, considering his limited practice time in preseason and no game snaps.

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cpabandit's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:59 pm

For Aaron Rodgers, this is essentially like the start of the regular season, considering his limited practice time in preseason and no game snaps.

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Wenis's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:41 pm

LoL......... Martyball McCarthy did his best to let this one slip away. That lost look on his face is classic.

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BELIEVER's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:28 pm

that is so true

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WKUPackFan's picture

September 26, 2016 at 03:50 am

This would be funny if you knew what Martyball is, or was. But, you don't, so it's just pathetic instead.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:41 pm

Regime change....

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:46 pm

#tears4taryn

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:22 pm

IDK, Fackrell looked like he could really develop into a player.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:56 pm

#tears4taryn is indeed in reference to Taryn's scouting report on Nick Perry, because every time he plays well, it is one step closer to Taryn being "wrong" about a player "for the first time", as she has a perfect record on predicting success or failure on all Packers personnel she's ever commented on.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 26, 2016 at 03:55 am

And Martinez into the man in the mask

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BELIEVER's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:25 pm

I agree, I hate to say it but this team is going no where with that wimp of a head coach. Time to say good bye. Too much talent to piss it all away. I just don't understand him. I've been watching football over 40 years, I wonder if he even realizes that he soft.

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 06:17 pm

I don't get all of the negativity. We were missing CM3, Datone, Guion, Shields, and Burnett. Also Cook was out when momentum swung. We go up by 21 at half that tightens when a bunch of developing rookies play, and then everyone starts clutching their pearls.

Good lord. Settle down. It's a long season. The team you saw today won a good game, but will be tougher come January barring injury which is the same exception for every NFL team.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 26, 2016 at 03:59 am

Half of these clowns are Viking fans deliberately trying to disrupt the Packer organization. A fifth column. Fans get coaches fired so, work like mad to get your enemies' fans in an uproar. Would t the Division love to see packer leadership disruptions?

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:15 pm

Many of the things we asked for offensively over this week: mixing personnel, getting the ball out faster, different formations. Packers did many of them (especially in first half) and the offense looked pretty good. Second half, they didn't have the ball nearly as much, but got the key first downs at the end. Would like to think that if some of those defensive starters had been available that this is a laugher...

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:19 pm

Agreed. I just looked at the game log, and they only had a single drive in the third quarter, and on that one they marched the ball well (5-minute drive), but the holding call on Bulaga forced them into a FG. D just couldn't get off the field prior to allowing points.

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 06:20 pm

D was missing Shields, Datone, CM3, and Burnett. Lotta rookies got valuable playing time today w/o sacrificing a win.

This is the NFL. Blow outs aren't as plentiful as NCAA.

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Hematite's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:15 pm

I don't believe Shields and Burnett would have made that much of a difference in that secondary, but who knows.

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:40 pm

First off, the communication in the secondary is likely much better if Shields and Burnett are playing over Hyde/Gunter/Hawkins. Veterans in familiar roles playing around guys they're used to playing with...

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:21 pm

Was hoping the Packers would get some help from Carolina today... **sigh**

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:28 pm

I tried to tell y'all about that Defense...

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:28 pm

Or that Cam isn't as good as everyone thought he was.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:05 pm

So, they just hand out MVP trophies all willy nilly, huh?

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chugwater's picture

September 26, 2016 at 02:51 pm

Many said Cam finally elevated his game to elite status last year. MVP was warranted, but we will see if he can sustain it.

To be fair he played the two toughest defenses in the league. Should be easier sledding in the coming weeks. Time will tell.

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chugwater's picture

September 26, 2016 at 02:52 pm

(The dreaded double post strikes again.)

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:27 pm

Ahh, I don't know where to start off.

Random Stuff:

Nick Perry - Take that, Taryn.

Rodgers sure was under the Center a lot more.

The phuck is up with Randall & his bad habits?!

Rodgers played much better today.

I can watch Fackrell's film all day long. Did y'all see the way he set the Tackle up for that sack? BEAUTIFUL!

I must really like Thomas now because I was all smiles even when he dropped the INT.

I am so comfortable with our backup Safeties.

See what happens when you give Lacy meaningful carries? He should've had more than that.

That Jordy guy is pretty damn good. Am I the only one who hates seeing do even the slightest twist or spin?

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:45 pm

#tears4Taryn

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Since'61's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:03 pm

Remember Oppy - Taryn also told us that Fackrell would be good and so far she's looking pretty good on that one. Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:41 pm

There were an awul lot of downs where Fackrell ran right into his blocker and got stuck, too. Still...just a rookie...

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:01 pm

Since '61,

Taryn has repeatedly said that Nick Perry was a bust, and had no skills that would translate to OLB, and that the Packers were leading a "failed experiment" drafting a DE and converting to a 3-4 OLB (even though that's what 3-4 teams do, historically speaking).

Really, the biggest reason I'm launching #tears4taryn is her recent boast that she's "never been wrong" on a player assessment before.

So, Maybe I'm a jerk, but #tears4Taryn is my celebration of Nick Perry's finally being over the injury bug and showing what those who've paid attention already knew- the guy can ball.

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GBFaninCA's picture

September 26, 2016 at 02:14 am

Knock on wood please!!!!!

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GBFaninCA's picture

September 26, 2016 at 02:14 am

Knock on wood please!!!!!

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:15 pm

Lol

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holmesmd's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:21 pm

You like Thomas now?! Who would have ever imagined that?!;) Lol

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ray nichkee's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:28 pm

Jordy is back.

The run D is for real.

Lacy is still a beast.

The foot is still too light on the gas pedal after a sizeable lead.

...and oh yeah, to the square peg in a round hole girl, Nick Perry is for real...when healthy.

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ray nichkee's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:30 pm

Forgot Thomas looked like a starter. Peppers and Elliot looked good too.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:46 pm

#tears4taryn

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Big Moe's picture

September 25, 2016 at 11:05 pm

"The foot is still too light on the gas pedal after a sizeable lead."

AMEN!!!

No lead is to big keep poring it on, please!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:28 pm

"Do we credit Mike McCarthy for changing the offensive approach or Aaron Rodgers for taking the easy completions when he has them?"

They both get the credit. They both finally did the right thing. But they need to keep doing it. The fact that it took SOOOOOO long to get there makes me wonder ig they will quickly revert to the former strategy.

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:38 pm

^^THIS^^

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 25, 2016 at 11:13 pm

I like the game plan in this game.

They got Lacy the ball more. They mixed personnel much better. They attacked the whole field. Their timing was much better. They were much less predictable.

Hopefully they keep this up.

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Tom Dempsey's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:30 pm

What happened in the 2nd half ? Did the Lions get better or did the Packers get worse ? Glad for the win !
!!! Go Pack Go !!!

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:36 pm

The coaches realized Detroit had to score at least three times in 30 min against a defense with three missing starters. They opted to run the ball more which helped kill the clock.

Several rookie free agents played in the game on defense and got valuable playing time.

No need to panic. This was a solid win.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:32 pm

I wonder if those 4 consecutive road games played a part in any of our inconsistent play.

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:38 pm

This is only week 3.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:07 pm

Last two preseason games plus the first two regular season games?????

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:22 pm

Oh come on. Those last two preseason games were played by 3rd and 4th stringers. They had eleven days between the last exhibition game and Jax.

They aren't that fragile. Get a grip.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:36 pm

So, home games don't matter. Got cha.

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Colin_C's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:33 pm

Thank God for some real offense today. I know people will say they didn't play as well in the second half, but they only got the ball a few times. All in all, I'm satisfied. Now, the defense. Run defense was superb again, pass rush was decent, but what the heck happen to our secondary! I get that we have a lot of injuries, but that was atrocious. Randall is getting burnt often, and opposing QB's know it. And our safeties are not giving any help over the top. Besides the massive 1st half error, I though Hawkins played well for his first time starting.

I'll be at the game in two weeks, and the Giants have loads of talent at WR, so Capers and Whitt had better get their guys whipped into shape.

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greenngold's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:34 pm

A tale of two halves. Played a great first half against a depleted defense and our youth on defense really showed in the second. At one point I counted seven first and second year players on the field. I can't really say MM got conservative in the 2nd half... kind of just scratching my head over how they didn't move the ball... then again you actually have to HAVE the ball to move it. I know Eddie ran hard, and had a good game, but damn, there were some huge holes that a back with wheels could have broken for huge yards. Lets get healthy and make a run. Baby steps baby, baby steps. Oh, and by the way, Mike Zimmer can friggin coach.

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chugwater's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:55 pm

This...

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Nerd's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:43 pm

Agreed, when Aaron is executing the offense, going through his progressions and getting the ball out, he's nearly unstoppable.

Seemed like they struggled a little bit when Cook went out. But Aaron was freelancing a little bit more in the second half too, imo.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:48 pm

Its amazing how the offense works, when you work the offense. :)
Keep it up, Aaron. Trust the offense until you don't have a choice but to improvise, THEN do your thing.

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September 25, 2016 at 03:47 pm

- I loved seeing this team and Rodgers look so good in the 1st half.
- I hated seeing them go into a shell in the 2nd half.
- The defense had a rough day. But I saw lots of rookies play and make plays. Fackrell with a sack, Elliot with a play behind the line. Hawkins with the pass defended.
- This game was similar to many Packer win during the 2011 season were we would go up big only to give it back and make a game out of it.
- With a lot of banged up players, the bye week comes at a perfect time. I hope Cook is OK or it’s over before it started. We need the middle of the field.
- Defense made a few plays but gave up way too many big plays.
- Lacy got going a little bit. Rodgers has to follow up the runs with completions to keep drives going
- Rodgers has got to throw the ball to the middle. During his slump (which he may still be in), he relied on holding the ball and throwing the ball to the outside. Today, in the 1st half, he utilized the middle of the field and got the ball out of his hands fast. In the second half he resorted to scrambling and holding the ball again. He made some great scramble plays
- Is Crosby dialed in our what!!
- I think Ty Mongomery showed how he got into Stanford with that smart play on the kickoff.
- Overall, I would like to see the Packers and especially Rodgers put together a full game. We can’t beat better teams with half games. There was no reason this should have gotten close. Keep the hammer down!!

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holmesmd's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:31 pm

It's the 3rd game of the season.

Rodgers had a passer rating of near 140!

Lacy and the O - line implored their will on the Lions, demoralizing them for multiple runs over 7-8 yds. What game did you watch

Capers & Whitt need to get the back end sorted out. Too many zone concepts. Not going to work unless the rush gets home in 3 seconds. Let the young fellas have their nuts drop and play man like an elite defense you aspire to be! This stupid zone coverage shit has pissed me off for a decade. It rarely if ever is effective against a good QB.

Where was Abby? Monty needs to get a lot more snaps.

The world has not ended, #12 can still be one of the best in the game.

Another MASH Unit early season. Let's hope that's not the case in December?

Good home win albeit, certainly not perfect. Go Pack

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:07 pm

There was a ton of man out there today. That's how Randall got worked.

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JerseyAl's picture

September 25, 2016 at 07:26 pm

Have to disagree. I saw a lot of zone. Randall even said so after the game. "“We played quite a few zones and Stafford was just finding the holes and hitting them,” Randall said."

Randall was getting safety help way to slowly - same as last week.

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Norm's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:24 pm

I was thinking the same think Al, I saw mostly zone. I'd be curious to see from someone with access to the All 22 what the deal was with the lack of safety help, was it slowness afoot or were they just outschemed by Jim Bob Cooter, who is a pretty decent OC (I still laugh every time I hear that name, it really sounds like a Dukes of Hazzard character).

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 09:18 pm

I guess I'll have to defer to Randall, but it sure looked like trail man coverage to me on a good number of those completions.

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September 26, 2016 at 12:54 am

Dix is a good FS. I've commented to some derision that I am still waiting to see him get over in time to actually help a CB. I just don't think he has the speed to be elite, but I do think he can be very good. Of course today, plenty of problems over the middle and problems on the boundary.

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jh9's picture

September 25, 2016 at 03:48 pm

What we saw in the first half today from the Packers was a relief. Now, they have to play that way for 60 minutes in every game.

When we have a sizable lead in the second half I don't ever want to see MM's turtle offense or Caper's "prevent" defense again. When are those two men ever going to learn?

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:01 pm

I would like to think that what we saw in the second half was more a function of a decent offensive opponent and a group of guys in the secondary who just don't play together a lot.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:09 pm

I ask this whenever I see it:

Can you define how you know when the defense is in "prevent" compared to when they are in a different defense?

If so, please describe for me.

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jh9's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:13 pm

From what I saw, the Packers played a deeper zone defense in the 2nd half. The Packers defense in middle of the field was weak in the 1st half and got weaker in the 2nd half.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:57 pm

I can't comment on that, because I watched the game on Television, where you rarely get a glimpse of the secondary until the ball is passed deep or the WR makes a reception and runs deep enough to see that part of the field- in which case, a few seconds have already gone by and players aren't anywhere near where they were at the snap of the ball.

It's one of the things I really dislike about modern football telecasts. There was a time we got to see nearly all 22 on the tv at once. I wish they'd bring that back.

Color me envious if you were at the game. I wish I could have been there.

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Point-Packer's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:15 pm

Get a good lead and do everything you can to blow it. Classic McCarthy.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:54 pm

Just to be clear on this, you're saying Mike McCarthy calls the defense?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 25, 2016 at 06:20 pm

Lol, classic @Oppy......classic

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Point-Packer's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:26 pm

Just to be clear, Sloppy. McCarthy is the Green Bay Packer coach, correct? Not Dom Capers. Regardless of his influence over the defense, he called a shitty conservative 2nd half offensively which was the main reason it was much closer than it should have been.

And you are a dbag.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 09:21 pm

I prefer the term 'tool', but I'll totally defer to your expertise on all things douchey on this one. :)

With love,
Oppy

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WKUPackFan's picture

September 26, 2016 at 04:09 am

@Point Packer - What don't you understand about a 21 point lead? Kill 30 minutes, win the game. Keep everything in front, make the team that is behind have to eat the clock. That's exactly what happened.

Quit spouting idiotic terms like "prevent defenses", especially when you can't answer a simple question as to whether you know what those terms mean.

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Point-Packer's picture

September 26, 2016 at 09:36 am

Where did I spout "prevent defense". I simply thought MM called a crappy second half.

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September 26, 2016 at 09:36 am

Where did I spout "prevent defense". I simply thought MM called a crappy second half.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:17 pm

"MM's turtle offense". Lol. Still laughing although I wish MM would just let it fly. Turtle Offense.

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Since'61's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:00 pm

It was nice to see the Packers offense and Aaron Rodgers return to Lambeau for at least the first half of today's game. Offense and defense looked awesome until Hawkins gave up the long TD play at the end of the half. Prior to that the Lions were going nowhere and the Packers O was doing whatever they wanted to do. Second half the injuries to the Packers defense took their toll. Once again the middle of the field was pitch and catch against the Packer D. Good to see the Packers offense run out the clock for the last 4 minutes. Lacy was a difference maker today and Perry on defense as well. Hate to have such an early bye week but our guys, especially the defense, need it to heal up and get back for the Giant game. I'm concerned that the Giants WRs will run wild against our DBs but that can wait for now. Enjoy the return of AR. Hopefully he stays around for the rest of the season. Thanks, Since '61

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September 25, 2016 at 04:08 pm

Both teams had key def players out. Ziggy and Clay were a wash. The Packers secondary was a mash unit. Big penalties and a few key drops killed the off in the 2nd half. Plays, 24 run, 24 pass, AR 129 qb rating. MM always, I mean always takes his foot off of the gas. Its Lacy then everyone else at RB. Mn is for real on D, 7 sacks 3 ints. The Pack should have had at least 3 picks. A win is a win, ask the Giants, Cards, Panthers. I had all 3 of those wrong. The Pack covered then spread!!!! it was 6.5 at game time.

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The TKstinator's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:24 pm

So we want Lacy to carry a lot but we don't want MM to take his foot off the gas? I think we also don't want Bulaga to get that holding penalty when 12 runs for the first down nor do we want Trevor Davis to drop that pass. Or penalties on punt returns.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:35 pm

Yes, but one of the illegal blocks - IIRC - sprung Davis initially. Bulaga´s penalty was very questionable, as was the penalty Perry drew against Decker. Apparently if the d-lineman falls to the ground, it is holding. Looked to me like Perry simply lost his balance and fell over.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:37 pm

Sorry but running Lacy isn't synonymous with " stepping off the gas". It's about moving the chains and minimizing turnovers, which statistically is the most effective way to protect a lead. Does everyone want Rodgers to fling the ball around every down in the 4 the quarter with a healthy lead? I would think not.

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The TKstinator's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:50 pm

I think we are in accord.

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Norm's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:27 pm

Actually i'm in a camry but what's the difference?

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dobber's picture

September 25, 2016 at 04:45 pm

If Davis catches that 15-yard-sideline route that hit him right in the belly in the 4th quarter, what would we be saying? Find some hands, dude.

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September 25, 2016 at 05:20 pm

I meant forget these other rb's, feed Lacy. Balance is not taking your foot off of the gas.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:30 pm

Didn´t you forget Deandre Levy? And his back up was also injured. But it might have been a wash with all the guys we had out.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:20 pm

It looks like nothing was wrong with the Packers offense that not playing the Vikings couldn't solve (just ask the panthers).

On D we better hope its the injuries to Shields and Burnett that had this secondary looking like Swiss cheese. But until they start showing otherwise the O better keep the pedal down and expect that the D isn't going to slow anyone down much.

Who'd have thought that a bye in week 4 ends up being well placed for this banged up team.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:46 pm

Everyone wants to compare MM to Belichick? Well, Belichick gets a team down, stomps on their throat, and grinds in the heel of his boot. MM is too much of a "gentleman". After 10 years, still doesn't know how to put a team away...

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September 25, 2016 at 08:31 pm

And for that and many other reasons there is no comparison. Including adapt and adjust.

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September 25, 2016 at 08:35 pm

Yep. Another second quarter comeback for Aaron Rodgers. If only they had put Detroit away in the first quarter.

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September 26, 2016 at 01:08 am

GB had 4 drives in the 2nd half. 2 punts, a FG, and the final drive that ended in a kneel down. 3 points. Detroit also had 4 drives in the 2nd half = 17 pts.

GB: TOP of 13 min, 20 seconds, with 22 plays + 3 kneel downs.

Detroit: TOP of 16 min, 40 seconds, and 33 plays.

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September 25, 2016 at 04:31 pm

RR has made some strides with run blocking. His pass blocking is still terrible. He still has really good hands and might be a bit quicker.

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:10 pm

Much better. The Offense for the first time finally looked like itself of old.

McCarthy getting more players involved helped. Getting the ball out faster helped. They attacked the entire field today, and spread the ball around.

Overall it was much better today.

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Point-Packer's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:12 pm

Classic McCarthy game. Get a good lead, go conservative and do everything you can to blow it. Ridiculous.

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al bundy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:27 pm

usually I beat on Mike like an old muel for going conservative but not today. Big lead, no need for more points, get the run game with Lacy going and let the O line beat on some people and get used to run blocking.
The only problemo, when the other team is stopping you and then scoring 7 hear 7 there with a piss poor pass defense, you need to go back to what you did at the start of the game mikey. Almost lost this sucker had time not run out.
I too wonder, and not for the first time, where the hell is ha has dix and what is he doing. Does he not understans his role aint to stand and watch the game from center field. Way fn over rated people. If he aint gettin hurt once in a while he aint playin.

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Mojo's picture

September 25, 2016 at 05:32 pm

Went just about the way I thought it would. Arod would go back to mixing it up with the quick rhythm passes combined with occasional shots down field and using the middle a bit more than in the past. Also Arod keeping drives alive by running for firsts when need be.

The results were predictable with GB putting points up on every drive in the first half.

So why was that such a mystery to #12 when so many of us neophytes felt he should have been doing that all along?

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September 25, 2016 at 07:01 pm

So did Perrelo replace Cook? MM always plays the percentages, big lead milk the clock. The Packers are so anti pre season, it takes them 3 weeks to hit their stride.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2016 at 09:32 pm

My best guess, pride?

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Bohj's picture

September 25, 2016 at 08:55 pm

Hahahaha. Rookie fest on D.
Martinez, Fackrell, Lowry, Clark, Bice, Hawkins. Minus...martinez and clark....these rookies all logged way more snaps than I would have ever expected at this point in the season. That's six Rookies. Add Davis on O and that's seven rookies. Name me an NFL team that played six Rookies on D today and won!! That is something. Second year players: Randall, Rollins, Ryan, Elliot, Thomas(ish). That's five more noobs. 11 guys. That's like our entire defense. I just hope all of these early reps pays dividends as the season wears on and we get guys back.... Then our depth will be better prepared. IE 16 guys on IR....win the big one... Type of prepared. Go pack.

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September 25, 2016 at 08:58 pm

If we looked like a college D out there the second half.....just remember that most of these guys were in college just a year or two ago. Give them a break.....they'll grow.

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September 25, 2016 at 09:25 pm

One turnover in the game was the difference. Can you imagine if the Packers caught the other picks they dropped? The Thomas drop in Detroit territory would have turned into points.

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September 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm

I was hoping someone would highlight Adams shaking that CB out of his shoes for that easy TD since we all crave for WR separation. But...

I was also waiting for someone to point out the Cook block on Nelson's long reception. Lol. That guy...

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September 26, 2016 at 01:38 am

How about Jimbob Cooter scheming to get a mismatch: Ebron against Nick Perry down the middle (I think it was Ebron both times - might have been a RB the 2nd time). At least Perry was able to trip the receiver up each time, but there was some pretty good separation involved. [I am not dissing Perry - this is a match-up we don't want for any of our EEs.]

I'll give you the nice play by Adams - 2 of them. But we need more than 3 receptions (and drawing a PI call) from wide receivers not named Nelson. Do you call getting hit in the side of the neck (okay, it might have been Cook's shoulder pad) a drop? A failure to adjust to the ball? If it had been Adams rather than Cook, it'd been a drop.

I gave a compliment to RR on his run blocking above, and now your trying to milk another compliment from me about Adams? My compliments for players I don't particularly like come at a more glacial pace than that, I'll have you know.

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September 26, 2016 at 10:33 am

Good job by that Off. Cord. I hate seeing Perry in coverage too. I understand changing up his assignment from time to time, but I wish it would be more in a zone w/help behind instead of man-to-man vs a much more agile RB/TE with no help behind him. We got lucky on the shoestring tackle.

I don't understand where you're going with this one. WRs can only (try to) catch passes they're thrown. Nelson was simply targeted more this game. That doesn't always mean others weren't getting open.

You don't have to acknowledge his plays. That's why I'm here to remind those that feel the same way you do about him.

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September 27, 2016 at 03:36 am

It is fine, remind away, Drealyn. Note though that I don't hate Adams; I think there is talent there. I am not a cut Adams tomorrow guy; I am a play others more guy. I am still surprised by his drops and tend to think that this issue will go away in time. Need all22 to see if the WRs were getting open or not - alas, no one gave Dad that for his birthday again.

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