Packers Vs. Falcons: First Impressions

My immediate thoughts on the Packers - Falcons NFC Championship game.

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One play, one injury. Kentrell Brice. 

Game of inches - Falcons given a big third down by an inch or two. Instead of a punt, end result is a TD drive. Unfortunately, it was a very bad spot McCrthy should have challenged. 

Said before the game, although I don't know the medicals, there was no way I throw Nelson out there only two weeks removed from broken ribs. Incredible how "normal" he looked.

With all the praising and lauding of Crosby this week, you just knew he would miss an easy one. 

Deion Jones was a draft crush of mine for the #Packers. In on 108 tackles as a rookie. But it would help if someone blocked him.

When Matt Ryan fakes you out of your ass, you should just quietly walk to the locker room. Yes you, Joe Thomas.

Damarious Randall still hasn't been seen within five yards of a receiver.

For years now, the only blitz with some modicum of success against Rodgers has been the corner blitz.

So we all expected the #Packers defense to give up plenty of points. It was the offense's job to keep pace. Zero points at halftime?

Falcons were able to bother Rodgers. Zero pressure from the Packers on Ryan - even when blitzing. 

For me, as much as the secondary was shredded & deserves to be criticized, the bigger problem for this defense is the inability to pressure QBs. 

If this were the middle of the season, Joe Thomas would have gotten cut after this performance. Horrid.

Besides playing poorly, there hasn't been one instance of the #Packers getting a break today. That's a disastrous combination.

As misguided as it is, let the #FireCapers train get rolling again. Tell me which defensive genius would have made a difference?

And don't come at me with your Ladarius Gunter hate. Undrafted guy thrown into the #1 cornerback role going up against the league's best receivers? Have some reasonable expectations...

The real issue is that the last five years or so, Ted has focused on defense in the draft but produced few impact players. Especially with the first round picks.

I know you never say die, but is there any reason to have Rodgers out there taking hits down 29 points with 10 minutes left in the game? Although they did thankfully take Jordy out.

Overall, I'm blaming the flu...

Well, time to get the CHTV Draft Guide ball rolling. Thanks for reading, everyone...

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  

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marpag1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:41 pm

Well that, my friends, was a butt kicking. Too many blown opportunities, too many injuries, too much ATL offense.

On the more optimistic side, I think we should be healthy before the next game.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:59 pm

A great season of entertainment. One Guess who is one of the Super Bowl favorites next year?

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marpag1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:02 pm

Atlanta?

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The TKstinator's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:19 pm

How come neither Den nor Car even made the playoffs this year?

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:50 pm

I'll take that bet. Not that I'll win anything that you'll stick to.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:31 pm

Perhaps it's time to find another team. Really, why bother if you bet against them.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:20 pm

ass, meet door.

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Spock's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:58 pm

Jersey Al, please, PLEASE, please back that up by banning this miserable excuse for a human being. Truly make it an "ass, meets door" day. Why must we be subjected to his negativity? Even DPF with his F-bombs bothers me less than this guy (although you have GOT to crack down on those as well.). If "Cow" is a Packers fan I'm the second coming of Jesus. Please ban this jerk. I always liked your Jersey Al site better than CHTV because you seemed to control this type commentary better! Let's start the New Year (a little late) with a "cow-free" comments section. Thanks for your consideration of this :)!!!

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 02:40 am

Thank you. Now I'm sure PAckers will be back in SB next year... Can you please give us more long term prognosis about Packers?

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 02:40 am

Thank you. Now I'm sure Packers will be back in SB next year... Can you please give us more long term prognosis about Packers?

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:15 pm

Atlantas front four and linebackers are mostly first and second year players. Young and talented. Teds first and second year players are young and not talented. Which team does not go to the sb next year. Ted is drfting bodies not talent. Ted is not filling needed holes with free agents.
This team was dam dam lucky to even get where they did. Not happening next year or thenext until they cut the deadwood a d xpend some bucks.

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Spud Rapids's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:43 pm

Atlanta's first and second year players were healthy, Ted's first and second year players were not healthy this year

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marpag1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:30 pm

DEN and CAR didn't go back to the playoffs because neither of them have a bona fide first rate QB. And yes, I'm saying that Cam Newton is not a bona fide first rate QB.

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:38 pm

Here comes the I told you so arm chair quarterbacks. If we make that field goal and Rip doesn't fumble the ball, the game would of been a little closer in the first half. Injuries did come in to play also. These are momentum breakers. Hey they were left for dead at 4-6. And we made it to the NFC Championship. I thought we did pretty good with what we have to work with.
So GO PACK GO!!!!!!

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:21 pm

A friend of mine who is a big Cavaliers fans had an interesting comment about the Packers. Compared them to the 2014-2015 Cavs. Depleted Cavs made it to game six of the finals on the back of one great player. In the end, there just wasn't enough help to go all the way.

Let's hope the analogy continues and the Packers finish the job next season like the Cavs did.

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carusotrap's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:13 am

Great point. But, that is going to require some creative personnel moves to win now. I think we all know that is not going to happen.

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Spud Rapids's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:44 pm

No it doesn't... it requires the team to stay healthy... injuries and health are luck in the NFL, plain and simple.

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:38 pm

Here comes the I told you so arm chair quarterbacks. If we make that field goal and Rip doesn't fumble the ball, the game would of been a little closer in the first half. Injuries did come in to play also. These are momentum breakers. Hey they were left for dead at 4-6. And we made it to the NFC Championship. I thought we did pretty good with what we have to work with.
So GO PACK GO!!!!!!

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Kyle Graham's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:43 pm

The injuries finally caught up with us. I figured it was gonna be a rough day when first play in Brice goes down. This packers team was a ton of fun. We got some holes to fill for sure but today just wasn't our day. Too many injuries and too many mistakes. That's never a good sign. Still proud of my team! Love the pack but we got some holes to fill. Go get some guys! Go pack Go

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:40 pm

Sorry I have poor wi fi here.

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lebowski's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:45 pm

"The real issue is that the last five years or so, Ted has focused on defense in the draft but produced few impact players. Especially with the first round picks." Nail. Head. And we have to do it again THIS year. Talk about a hamster wheel...

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:04 pm

Losing Shields was a huge blow, especially with Randall and Rollins hitting sophomore slumps. I'm really hoping that Randall pulls an Adams with a bounce-back year 3 being healthy again.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:03 pm

I don't know Idiot Fan. He was pretty bad from week one.

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Spud Rapids's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:47 pm

Week 1 he was the highest rated Packers players, here's an excerpt:

"Second-year cornerback Damarious Randall was all over the field in this one, as he prevented two receptions, including one pass breakup, had an impressive stop on a run play and registered a tackle even on special teams. While he was targeted six times in coverage, he allowed only two receptions for 13 yards."

This is why I think he more likely a product of poor health like Adams was. Everyone wanted to eviscerate Adams and he ended up being a huge part of this team's run.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:07 pm

You're not getting a Kahlil Mack or Jadeveon Clowney drafting in the bottom of every round. I'd love TT to shoot the moon and get the premiere player of every round, but it's not going to happen.

The other personnel departments get paid too.

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Spock's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:06 pm

I'm psyched that THIS YEAR Ted will be able to trade his comp picks and possibly move up for that top tier defensive difference maker!! Ted always seems to get the best of Beli(cheat) in the draft!

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Pack204's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:46 pm

I agree this defense is more On TT than capers. Soo many underperformers after using first round picks yr after yr. This team will not play in another super bowl unless the defense can get some amount of pressure on a quarterback.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:54 pm

This game was lost by the offense. When your star players provide zero points in 30 min of football, it's going to look ugly.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:10 pm

Even tho TT drafted closer to the end of the first round, Capers has failed to develop them into being impact players. Competent in a a scheme which was terribly ineffective, even when healthy not just this year but the last 6 years. TT, or hopefully his replacement, could help by signing a DE who can get after the QB consistently. A new DC and GM should do the trick.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:24 pm

This is the most naive comment I've read thus far.

Congratulations.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:53 pm

And your cogent argument for Capers, please.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:35 pm

You made the assertion that a free agent DE, DC, and GM is all that's needed. The burden of proof is yours.

Please name the three you would sign and provide the proof they'd be better.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:13 pm

You've misread my post. I did not say that those 3 moves would be all that was needed.

Calais Campbell is a free agent who would be a huge upgrade at DE. A new GM would make that and other acquisitions, draftees and maybe even a second FA!!! The names of the other potential FA options will not be known until the other GMs have made their calculations.

Your turn.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:01 pm

You advocated for a new GM and DC as if we could plug any two guys from the league into Ted and Dom's position. Who would you pick and why? Not sure how I could misinterpret 'that ought to do the trick.'

Calais' last contract was 5 yrs, $55 mil. How much are you willing to pay him? Do you keep Perry? Jones? Lacey? Tretter? Cook? Peppers? Who would handle this better than current management. You're advocating change, but don't have a plan.

'A new GM would make that and other acquisitions, draftees,and maybe a second FA!!!'

I'll be sure to tell Ted not to draft or acquire any busts.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:35 am

"Any two guys"--infer much?

Calais Campbell's Worth? Who knows? I'd like to think any GM whose team is in need of an upgrade would have a conversation with his agent.

Perry: yes; Jones, no; Tretter, yes; Lacy, no; Cook, yes; Peppers, no. My preference for GM, Wolf.

I never said TTs drafts were busts, again you are inferring something I never uttered.

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GB Jacker's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:10 am

It looks like Dorsey from Kansas is likely to replace TT - Kansas has drafted well on defense so there's some hope if that transpires. Overall I agree - we've not had a defence like '10 for a while. Capers needs more talent and its hard to find a good DC when they're all snapped up already.

Interested to hear potential DC alternatives on here?

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chugwater's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:34 am

My whole point is it's hard to make the playoffs much less make them year after year after year. Few franchises have had our success. I get the sense that most who advocate for change in GM, head coach, and/or DC don't realize we could easily do worse and slide into mediocrity. There are 31 other GMs and personnel departments who are fighting for the same talent. And yet, we've had more sustained success than any other franchise outside of NE.

There are a couple dozen teams who would love to be in our position. We are very close to winning a Super Bowl, and yet now is the time for a leadership change?

We are truly spoiled fans.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 23, 2017 at 09:18 am

No one can dispute maki g the playoffs 8 straight years. Don't know if you are baseball fan or not but here is an apt analogy: the Atlanta Braves made the playoffs 13 straight years. World Series wins: One. Some would say that was successful. I say a failure to get more than one championship.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:53 pm

And your cogent argument for Capers, please.

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DangerMouseUK's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:24 am

CB was our problem, along with lack of pass rush. Nobody saw that at the start of the season. Preseason our secondary looked like a strength, We ended with our 5th CB covering #1 receivers in elite offences. Injuries hurt us.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:48 pm

I'm pretty impressed that Packers made it to the NFC Championship game with the players they had available on defense. This team needs more veteran players on the defensive side of the ball. I know TTs plan is to draft them, but it hasn't worked. Now they are beat in the playoffs yet again by a team that signed some meaningful FAs.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:55 pm

Did they? I honestly don't really know. But I recall Buck and Aikman outlining all the young guys that they have on D (that they drafted) who took a little while to gel together. I guess they signed Freeney, but he wasn't exactly impactful.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:08 pm

Falcons had three top-10 picks this decade and they have drafted well.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:42 pm

TT doesn't doesn't have the poker chips to trade up that high.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:35 pm

For once you make sense. With team thisclose, trading up to get an immediate impact player seems the thing to do. Can't always afford to wait 2 to 4 years to develop one.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:56 pm

How many late first round draft picks should he trade away for Miles Garrett? Seven? Eight? That's what it will take. Your argument boils down to he doesn't bet the house on a lottery ticket. It would be a dumb move.

Which is why he wouldn't do it, but you would.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:58 pm

Because there are no consequences for him being a dumbass.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 02:56 am

Ah, yes, maybe there is dumb GM in NFL who will be willing to trade, lets say this year 1st draft pick that is positioned above 10 (Browns, 49ers, Bears, Jaguars, Titans, Jets, Chargers, Panthers, Bengals, Bills and 11th Saints) for, by your calculation 3 draft picks from 1st round and that would be 28th, 32nd, 32nd (od course Packers will win 2 SB with that one draft pick!)...
Marvelous.
You had some pretty clever statements here and lot of dumb ones, but this one is dumbiest I ever read it from you!

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Spock's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:11 pm

He may this year, with the ability to trade comp picks, as I mentioned above.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:26 pm

Well Alex Mack and Mohammed Sanu are two of them. Those guys have made a huge difference in that offense.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:13 pm

Totally agree with nearly all of Al's comments and your point JJJB. Although we all know our DBs have been injured, TT best not rely on any of them getting markedly better. He needs to find a veteran shut-down corner.

Also, I am not blaming this loss on TT, but he is a part of the solution. Although we have to give Kenny some time, Ted's record on DLineman is way below his hits in other positions.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:00 am

Veteran shut down corner? Who is he? What is his name? Will he accept to play for less than 10 milion per year, 3 year contract? So, you would let TJ lang, Eddy Lacy, J. C. Tretter, Mycah Hyde and severeal other players go. Maybe Nick Perry to. Who will be your pass rushers? Do you know?

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:21 pm

We will see what happens with Sam's and Julius' situation soon enough, but yes, I do think you need to look at other contract situations and EVERYTHING is on the table to get this defense better, quickly. The Pack's time with Rodgers is waning and we need to take action, Croat.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:12 pm

ATL's calling card on defense is their first and second year players. They have no veterans to speak of.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:45 pm

If only we had that speedy HOFer Terrell Buckley on the roster.

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TommyG's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:30 pm

The raiders did this for years. It did not go well. Their current GM drafts much better.

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4thand1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:49 pm

They lost this game when MM deffered and kicked off to the Falcons.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:57 pm

Totally unfounded.

AR had acres to roam to the left if he had just side stepped the blitzing MLB on the opening drive. Made zero points.

Rip fumbled inside the 10 yd line. Zero points.

Offense lost this game.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:15 pm

The Rip fumble was potentially a 14-point swing. That was the play of the game, right there. It just snowballed from that point onward.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:45 pm

Your getting dumber with each post.

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:03 pm

If u throw in the Crosby miss u r looking at least a 13 point swing. They r hard enough to beat without helping them.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:20 pm

Well, let's just say the offense did not help the defense, that's for sure. But we have to recognize that even though we left 10 points on the field, and did not garner a number of potential turnovers, this was still woefully short of the effort and points the Falcons put up. We ran out of gas and bodies.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:25 pm

The defense gave up 6 touchdowns and a FG while producing one punt during meaningful football, so there's zero way to say that the offense lost the game. But I think what you mean was, the game was over when they offense was not able to perfectly cover the defense's suckitude.

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January 22, 2017 at 06:42 pm

I would say that this is a fair assessment.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:56 pm

The strength of our team is an O line that pass protects better than any other in the league and a once in a generation QB who can light it up. We have an above average receiving corps and TE.

Today we were matched up against the 25th ranked defense in the league.

Points at halftime: 0
Points on 2nd half opening drive: 0

I could think of a number of ways this loss is on the offense.

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January 22, 2017 at 07:16 pm

How does the offense lose a game when the defense gives up 44 points on 7 of 8 possessions and over 500 yards of offense. What makes you think that if RIP does not fumble that the Packers defense would have stopped Atlanta after the kickoff. The final score would have been 44 - 28. instead of 44 - 21. The Packers defense wasn't bad, they were never in the game. They were completely overmatched. But yes, blame the offense for not scoring 48 points that a real cogent argument for someone who doesn't't have a clue about football. You are actually making COW look like a genius with your posts. Thanks, Since '61

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January 22, 2017 at 08:15 pm

I can think of several drives by the offense that lost the game for us. ATL blitzed up the middle on 3rd down in the opening drive. AR had an entire field to roam if he had just side stepped to his left. Sack. Missed FG. There's 7 points.

A couple 3 and outs later in the half. A stalled drive to open the second half. That can't happen against the 25th ranked defense in the league.

This was a team loss. We can bicker whether it was the defenses or offenses fault, but the reality is neither played well.

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January 22, 2017 at 08:30 pm

The reality is that our defense could not stop the Falcons offense. Assuming that we scored the 7 points you mention, what evidence do you have to justify that the defense would have given up less than 44 points. The defense did not make a play during the entire game. Yes, the offense could have played better at certain times but that doesn't mean that they would have scored on 7 of 8 possessions like the Falcons did. And the Falcons not only scored, they scored easily, almost uncontested. At one point QB Ryan was the leading rusher and ran in unmolested against our alleged defense. It's one thing to expect Rodgers and the offense to score 30+ points per game even without Jordy. It's another to ask Rodgers to win every game single handedly as he did for 8 straight games but it's unreasonable to expect him to win the game by himself and play defense as well. It's not fair to blame Rodgers for the defense allowing a score on every possession. It's not fair to expect Rodgers to score 44+ points because the defense doesn't make any plays or any stops. How many 3rd down plays did they give up? How many times did they sack Ryan? How many uncontested receptions did Atlanta have and how many YAC did they have? 500+ yards total. And BTW if Rodgers did keep the game closer I saw nothing during the game that would have told me the Packers defense could have stopped the Falcons from driving for a winning score. It was a team loss but the defense was exposed, embarrassed and anilihated. Thanks, Since '61

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January 22, 2017 at 09:15 pm

If Rip holds onto the ball we can eventually get a TD. That extends the drive where the ATL wouldn't be able to get a last second TD before half. Add to the list of disappointments a dreadful start to the opening drive of the second half. That's a swing of 21 pts right there.

If you want to hang this on the defense, go ahead and beat that horse.

But you can't lay blameless an offense that couldn't score a single point until the middle of the third quarter vs the 25th defense in the league. The offense, which has the talent advantage on this team, did not acquit themselves today either

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nickwork's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:52 pm

The "what ifs" are tough, but if you're going to go that far, you can realistically look at Time of Possession as a game changer. And you know who helps control ToP? The offense staying on the field on scoring drives when the score is tight.

You have to also speculate that if the Packers aren't down 17-0 but instead at 17-10 or 17-all that maybe the Falcons are a little more conservative with play calling. You'd also have to consider that with successful (and longer) offensive drives that the defense would actually get a rest and not be dog ass tired after every shortened offensive effort resulting in a punt.

"A good defense is the best offense" is a two-sided coin. If Aaron and our offense had kept Ryan and his offense off the field more, it would've been a lot harder to put up the stats they did. Unless there was a 5th and 6th quarter.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:13 am

Well that atomic O of Packers put 0 points on D which were ranked 25th against pass and 17th against run. How do you expect D to perform when they have to be on the field 2/3 of the game? Packers had D ranked 21st against pass and 8th against run and offense were not able to put any score on the board.
THAT IS HOW OFFENSE LOSE THE GAME!
But I would like to be more balanced, because all together I think Mike McCarthy said correct diagnosis - Packers run out of gas! On both side of the ball. Great part was injuries. MY God people, Packers were playing this game with several rookies in game which were not playing much during the season!
I'm proud of this team. They reaches NFCCG again with no name roster... What a accomplishment!

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January 22, 2017 at 05:50 pm

"The real issue is that the last five years or so, Ted has focused on defense in the draft but produced few impact players. Especially with the first round picks." That's the crux of it for me - just a bunch of guys. And his aversion to free agency just makes the matter worse.

That being said - when you are down to CB#4 playing CB#1 would drafting All Pros even matter? I have to believe that there is something wrong with their training staff or possibly even coaching when Packers rank out the top of injuries year after year after year.

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:06 pm

Few impact defensive players. That's nuts and bolts of this. Also, Capers scheme may be too complicated for the players they have. I think he'll be allowed to "retire" this week. Nice guy, works hard and probably knows more D than 99% of us, but he's been around for some of the worst defensive performances in the playoffs since SB 45.

At least Arod seemed to be on track the second half of the season. It's time to put a defense together before its too late.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:04 pm

Yup

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January 22, 2017 at 11:56 pm

Not only is your CB4 thrown into overwhelming circumstances as the 1, but you also have virtually no leadership on the defensive side of the ball.

I'm not sure how Freeney impacted the younger guys on ATL's defense this year, but as someone who lives in the bandwagoning country of the Arizona Cardinals, you get to hear often about how missed Freeney is simply for his ability to coach up and help the younger guys get better every day.

I've given up hope on Clay Matthews being the impact player he was years ago and hoped maybe he'd assume one of these roles of leaders (or best - field general), but it just doesn't seem like he wants to. I hope I'm wrong about him and I hope I'm wrong about lack of leadership, but I didn't see much tonight and haven't all year. It was just better hidden when our older starters weren't on IR.

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EdsLaces's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:52 pm

To make it this far and to play like that. Pathetic...

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:38 pm

Yep. They screwed the pooch today. Really sad.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:53 pm

Well, the duct tape that was holding this team together finally gave way. Still, heck of a run boys.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:59 pm

Sometimes it's just not your day. It happens.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:54 pm

Well that sucked!

I thought the play that changed the game was the Crosby missed FG. Just seems like since that play everything fell apart after.

The officials didn't make the game any better. So many bad calls or non calls. I especially loved that they threw a flag on Rodgers for a face mask and just bothered to not care that his face mask was being pulled.

The game isn't how we wanted it to go. But the fact we made it to this game after being 4-6 just shows how much this team had to overcome. It's been a fun ride!

It will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.

I love this team.
Go Pack Go!

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:56 pm

I thought Rip's first fumble was the death-knell.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:02 pm

Me too. Two drives. Zero points.

Hard to make that up with the talent in the other side of the ball.

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:08 pm

And two good drives. Rippers fumble was the worst thing that could have happened.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:07 pm

That was the play that completely changed the game. But missing the FG just seemed to put a weird negative vibe on the team.

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Donna Sweeney's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:33 pm

Too many many mistakes and dropped passes and not trying hard to play their A game. Sure wish they would of caught the mistakes Atlanta did make that we could not catch or fall on and keep in our possession. Still very proud being 4-6 months ago. Wish they would of played as hard as they did Dallas!!!!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:28 pm

The other call I still question was Rip's fumble recovery by the Falcons. The Falcon player (Collins?) rolled into the endzone voluntarily after recovering the fumble. Should of that been a safety?

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TommyG's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:43 pm

Unfortunately no.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:58 pm

I wondered that as well. His progress was stopped then he went into the end zone.

There were a quite a few calls that baffled me.

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nickwork's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:00 am

Another one that I'm still lost on was of really no consequence - other than rolling an extra 30+ seconds off the clock in the 3rd quarter.

Cobb catches a screen out to the right from Rodgers and as he turns up field towards the boundary, they whistle before he runs out of bounds. Apparently this is a "judgment call" that the refs can make if they feel a player is conceding yardage to not take a hit? We were so confused when the whistle blew while Cobb was still running.

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pooch's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:54 pm

The defense has never been nearly good enough to repeat to get into S.B. how many more years are going to wasted watching Ted bumble drafting D players he is down right terrible.You could have had Brady or Ryan playing for G.B. and still got beat bt 25.

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Curry Rambeau's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:49 pm

Same question 5 straight years. Same answer all these years. Maybe heads will roll this week.

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chugwater's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:36 pm

The 2014 defense was good enough. Offense didn't hold up that year.

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nickwork's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:01 am

You know what was different about 2010's run? They had Charles Woodson in there until the second half of the Super Bowl.

God, I'd have loved for anything closely resembling Chuck this year...

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ollie418's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:54 pm

Capers is brutal and I don't want to hear about injuries. Uncontested passes all day and no pressure on Ryan. Just awful.

Crosby missed FG and Ripkowski fumble changed the entire game.

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jimtalkbox's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:55 pm

I don't like being embarrassed, and THAT was an embarrassing game. Dammit!

Kind of feel like the Week 3 Bye hurt this team (The 3 remaining teams had Week 8 byes or later).

Don't know where this team goes from here, especially on Defense.

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Wenis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:55 pm

Maybe going the cheap route in the draft has allowed this team to be stocked with fragile players. I don't know but I am sick and tired of year in and year out it's nothing but injuries.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:16 pm

"...going the cheap route in the draft..."

I don't even know what that means.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:20 pm

With injuries, reinjuries, mid-season surgery injuries, and post-season surgery "just gotta gut it out" injuries, I don't think it much mattered when the bye was.

On that front, kudos to Jordy Nelson for not just playing, but looking good when he was out there.

On the other hand, I feel for TJ Lang, who could have a serious injury on the eve of free agency. Not only could he lose a lot of money, but if the Packers let him walk, he might not net them the help in the compensatory equation they so badly need. It could be both Sitton and Lang gone for nearly nothing. Ouch.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:22 pm

I'm a terrible person, but my first thought was, "oooo, we might get him back for cheaper."

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:51 pm

And why was Guion in at right guard? Was Spriggs or Bulaga hurt? Tretter having major surgery, Lang, and Taylor having to leave the game? Do we know the injuries? Confounding issue going into free agency season.

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stevehj's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:55 pm

I know there are Dom Capers haters out there and I would not say I am one of them. I just would like to see this defense with more attitude. The bend and don't break approach is not what you see in good defenses. It's almost an admission that you are not very good. Your best hope for a stop is a turnover or offensive f'up. When Kevin Greene left, the defense lost its inspirational leader and as far as I can tell, the Pack has never added a coach to fill that void. If replacing Dom Capers would do that, I would be ok with it. Somehow we need a defense that intimidates people and has an attitude you see on Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Just my two cents.....

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:12 pm

"The bend and don't break approach is not what you see in good defenses." well this is a key point. Capers can only coach the type of players he has. His defense would look a lot different if he were the Broncos DC last year. You can only play the style your talent allows you to.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:21 pm

Right on al. The analyst are quipping why zre the d backs palying off. Simple, if your slow you need to keep the faster guy in front of you or he will blow by you. Multiply all our dbacks times X and they all play off. A serious lack of size and speed and skill here on this team. Dom has nothing to work with.

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:12 pm

Agree, I'm not a Capers hater either, but as I've said before, I've seen some of the worst defensive performances in the playoffs under his guidance. Maybe with a more talented roster he would kick-ass, but he doesn't have it here.

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fthisJack's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:16 pm

1st quarter....atlanta 3rd and 16....3 man rush....easy first down....thats on him.

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fthisJack's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:16 pm

sorry that was second and 16

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nickwork's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:08 am

How about Gunter covering Julio Jones on that short TD catch before the half? Unless he ignored the play call, Dom thought spotting Ryan and Jones about 4 yards of wide open end zone. No pressure on him at all.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:34 pm

Ya and again the three four is a guise for not wanting to draft top DE's because they cost money and thats not my idea. Thats what Kectchum says. Ted took a linebacker and made him a pass rusher to save the bucks. Mathews has been wasted playing the wrong position.
I feel for the packer fans and the people on this board who bleed packers. Ted is screwing you by playing cheap ball.
Hey for 40 years I watcued the Lions under Ford do the same trying to put anyone on the filed that breathed. He was the cheapest sob on the planet. They had guys playing from colleges you never heard of. Sound familiar. Bailed but I see a lot of similarities here with the management.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:55 pm

Brice, who's physicality and tackling were vital this game goes down on first play? You just cant make this stuff up. Time to retool D and come back and win it all next year. Hold your heads high, everyone.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:10 pm

When Brice went down, my first thought was, here we go... Our most physical player gets hurt on the first play of the game. Just seemed to follow them the rest of the game.

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fthisJack's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:14 pm

i agree starting with a new DC

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Colin_C's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:00 pm

Well, I'm certainly disappointed, but we made a good run. As good as our offense was, a lot of it was Aaron carrying the team. There's some decent talent around him (Cook, Adams, Monty), but what the Falcons have is a great QB AND WR's, RB's, etc.

This offseason, we need some experienced FA's, along with one heck of a draft class. No more bread and butter guys, we need playmakers. Biggest areas of need I see are:
- CB's (obviously :-)
- EDGE rushers
- O-line who can run block
- ILB, FS, RB, TE, and DE

Didn't end how I hoped, but thanks for the great season guys! Go Pack Go!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:40 pm

According to some, this draft is supposed to be deep with edge rushers, TEs, and CBs. There is supposed be a decent group of WR's in this class too, but not many pro-ready game-changers.

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Since'61's picture

January 22, 2017 at 05:59 pm

My first impression is that for the first time in 56 seasons of watching NFL games I saw a kicking team called for delay of game. I have no idea how that can happen.
For the sake of proving to Packers fans that the team is serious about improving our defense it's time for Capers to either retire or be fired. We need to move on from Capers and rebuild the defense. When you give up over 500 yards of offense and allow scores on 7 out of 8 possessions you don't have a bad defense, you have no defense. It's time for new players and a new coach on defense. Keep Daniels, Clark, Ryan, Matinez, Dix and Burnett, maybe Rollins and start over. It looked like the Falcons offense was practicing out there rather than playing against an NFL defense. Finally I think that we saw a team that was playing in it's sixteenth consecutive game without a bye (which is a full NFL season without a bye) and there was nothing left emotionally or physically on the defense especially after the dramatic, emotional win over Dallas. The injuries, 16 straight weeks and lack of starting quality players on the defense canght up with this team. They took us on a great and gallant run up to this game. Now it's time to upgrade the defensive coaching and the defensive players at CB and OLB. Look s like timeout until the draft. Thanks, Since '61

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Kyle Graham's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:09 pm

They looked done. Like they just were spent. Having 16 straight weeks of football and important players playing injured really killed this team. I think the delayed flight was a sign. The team seemed to delay playing until halftime. We were down 31-0 before we could blink. Sad way to end the season but man what a ride it was.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:18 pm

Yeah, I'm no "fire everybody" reactionary, but I've been ready to part with Dom for a few years now. We haven't had a good D in 6 years, whether they're healthy or not. He was given a bum hand at the end of this year, but still, it may be time for some new coaching on D.

MM, on the other hand, I thought did a heck of a job adjusting and bringing this team back from the brink.

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Gman1976's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:31 pm

I only got to see most of the first half due to an appointment, but there were 2 telling points that just frustrated me that amplify the above: (1) The announcers pointing out that the Packers were in zone defense each time the Falcons scored TDs. Our DC's zone defense has reportedly given up big plays over the years and it's frustrating to see it again and again. (2) There were 2 big plays before the 2 minute mark when we rushed only 2 people on one play and then 3 people on another. Why in the world would you give a hot QB no heat and all day to throw? When plays doom a defense, it is time for another play caller. A coach must give his players opportunities to win with plays.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:38 pm

I was thinking the opposite. It seemed like no matter how many we rushed we never got pressure on the QB. At one point I even asked my friend, "is it possible to drop 11 into coverage since we can't get any pressure at all?"

I did find it odd that they left the middle of the field wide open on that last drive of the half. With 90 seconds or so and three timeouts, it's not like they would be afraid to throw there.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:16 pm

"... allow scores on 7 out of 8 possessions you don't have a bad defense, you have no defense."

Truer words have never been spoken.. What was Atlanta's 3rd down conversion rate? Has to be some kind of record.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:20 am

10 out of 12

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:01 pm

Thanks. Wish I could remember the 2 unsuccessful ones.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:13 pm

Umm, yea. About that confidence. Who in the hell were these Packers?

And what in the hell is up with these injuries!!?? I'm not about to sit up here and try to play a doctor, but something is fishy. This can't be a run on streak of "bad luck".

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:20 pm

The thing is, most of them are not hamstrings or things like that. It's guys getting their ankles turned or heads knocked or ribs smashed during the game. Hard to believe the team could do anything about that.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:30 pm

I'm not pointing the finger at the trainers. It's just weird that even when we hit an opponent hard -- we hurt ourselves. We were dropping players left and right. Lol, that sh*t isn't normal.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:35 pm

Agreed. Can you remember the last game where we didn't lose at least three guys to injury?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:44 pm

...or our pre-game injury list being shorter than the opponent's.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:07 pm

Maybe we need bigger guys, Montgomery is bigger and has bounced back to play again during games, but I'm grasping at straws.

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fthisJack's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:12 pm

capers has been at this how long....and the defense has never been good. personel isn't an excuse.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:25 pm

personnel is everything. Again, give Capers the Broncos defense from last year and you think it looks the same as the Packers defense?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:33 pm

Good point.

I'm not on the "Fire Capers" bandwagon either, but I would like to see some "adjustments". I know we're limited on talent (due to injuries), but damn, do we have to keep everything so plain?

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:34 pm

It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg argument though. Is he a good coach and the players are bad? Or are the players good and the coaching bad? I think it's hard for us as outsiders to tell, but the more years we go with a bad defense (with a changing cast of players) makes me lean towards coaching as not being good enough.

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January 22, 2017 at 07:02 pm

@IF

I agree. But not in the sense of I don't believe he's capable of helping us win, but the fact that there aren't any adjustments when starters/role players aren't playing up to par or just aren't available. Just had to add that second part in there because I know there will be someone reading this thinking I'm a part of the "Fire Capers Bandwagon".

Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:30 am

It is interesting... When Dom was calling zone, you were spitting on him for that. When he called man, you were spitting on him, when he called combo (zone and isolated man to man) you were spitting. What would you call. On every blitz Matt Ryan was finding man down the field on one on one favorable match up. I agree, Randall was playing bad whole season. In the beginning he made some interception and some good things, but soon he was injured and he lost his confidence. He was playing of the receiver and he was more spying where the ball will go than just to cover his man. Rollins was injured bad. Also, Gunter played injured (elbow, arm), I will not talk about Shields... From 3 safety, only one - Ha-Ha was healthy. All 3 ILB were injured, Clay was playing with bad shoulder, and you claims that soewmone else will put rest of the D better than Dom Capers?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:14 pm

@Croat Was that comment for me? This should be fun.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:00 pm

I'm in agreement with you on this one. I think we know what we have in DC, and I'm ready to shop around.

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January 22, 2017 at 07:08 pm

I wouldn't be mad if it happened.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:05 pm

Go away please.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:37 pm

One thing people are forgetting. A new d coach will ask for and expect free agent help and top draft picks. Capers apparently goes with the flow, in other words he knoews who writes his checks and obviously doesnt co !ain much. Just what ted is looking for.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:16 pm

Have you ever written a post without misspelled, partially spelled words and incomplete sentences? What gives?

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lambeauleap's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:22 pm

1. The game sucked from start to finish. Just a total nightmare of a game where nothing went our way. But I never thought this 4-6 team would end up at the NFC Championship game. So kudos to them for pulling it together and giving it a run. I'm very disappointed but not that shocked at the outcome though. I knew our defense was bad, but was shocked at how inept our offense was for so long today. I thought it'd be way more competitive from an offensive standpoint.

2. We rely way too much on late round/undrafted guys to fill huge roles on our defense and that's just not realistic. We're also missing way too often on our early picks. Need impact players. We need to get some mid level FA guys in here to help out.

3. Our injury situation once again is an issue. I feel like every year we have an injury list that is a mile long.

4. Jordy Nelson is a warrior.

5. Since 1992 we've had back to back HOF QBs leading this team and 2 SB wins. That's troublesome to me and I feel as if the window is closing to win another. Maybe I'm greedy but it just seems like we should have more with that long of a streak of good QB play.

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Point-Packer's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:25 pm

Massive choke job from Capers. Should be fired.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:39 pm

If this is all you got, you should be fired.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:28 pm

Well, that sucked. Seemed like the team finally just ran out of gas. It's always something with the defense, but the offense looked awful today too.

Every bounce went Atlanta's way, but even if that were reversed, GB did not execute well enough to win.

We need a couple new CBs next year. I hope Ted retires and GB replaces Dom. Probably won't happen.

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EdsLaces's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:35 pm

Dom can only work with what he's got. And what's he's got are a bunch of late round picks udfas.We need to get healthy. We need our early round picks to play a little better,and we need an amaaaaazing draft to win the big one. Because with another first round wiff like DATONE JONES we are never making it past the division champoinship.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:40 pm

That's a fair point, but the thing is that the defense has been the achillies heel of this team for all but two years of Dom's extended tenure (2010 and 2015).

At some point, you have to at least get mediocrity out of the players you have.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:55 pm

I believe Datone actually lead the team in pressures this year. I'd take him back for the right price. Perry too.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:28 pm

Damn it! I was going to argue cutting ties with Datone, but I just pulled up Nick Perry's #'s for comparison:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PerrNi00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneDa03.htm

(Yes, I know stats don't tell the entire story)

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WausauJay's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:32 pm

For all the TT hating and draft criticism, who does it better? What GM has a better draft record selecting anywhere near where the Packers have fornthe last 7 years? Success brings picks at the end of the round.

Where Ted clearly did mess up was letting Hayward go, but I didnt hear the Ted haters yell about that at the time. Everyone expected Shields to be the anchor.

As for Capers, I cant think of an available defensive mind who would be better for our roster. Suggestions anyone? In todays game, Ryan's failure to grab a free ball and two dropped interceptions on a touchdown drive are player performance issues you cant lay at Capers feet. 14 points there makes a difference eh?

With as many injuries as our defense suffered, Ted cant be blamed for the roster. One NFC team outclassed us, but we did stop Dallas and Seattle this year. We are young and despite the score, a surprisingly few calls and drops go a different way and we're in the Super Bowl.

For my money, we need CB help for sure - have to assume Sam will never play again. But in the long run, out ILB are the worst part of our D.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:08 pm

Let's be clear of two things:

There were a number of us questioning Haywards non-offer especially after letting lose Williams & House, and I was one. But honestly, the DBs looked fairly decent last year. Some of this has to be injuries, but you cannot rely on this as being the sole cause.....we must get some veteran cornerback leadership IMO.

Secondly, I agree especially with your point that the Packers were not "out-classed." The Packers beat the following Playoff teams, Detroit - twice, Seattle, Giants, Cowboys, & Texans, while losing to the Falcons twice, KC, & Cowboys, They finished the season 6-4 against the NFL playoff teams this year.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:45 pm

Take rogers out of the mix and put henly or watever x name is and your chicago bears competing for the worst record. This team a nd ted drafting is fn laughable.

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Flow49's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:35 pm

2017 NFL Draft
Packers Selections

1st round: Cornerback
2nd round: Cornerback
3rd round: Cornerback
4th round: Cornerback
5th round: Cornerback
6th round: Cornerback
7th round: best available... never mind cornerback

Maybe one will be able to cover?

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Flow49's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:37 pm

Jokes aside valiant effort by this team to dig itself out of the 4-6 hole. I'm still proud of this team

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:40 pm

Need PASS RUSHERS

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:41 pm

You just wonder if CM3 and Randall are asked to take a pay cut. You'd assume Sam is cut.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:45 pm

Randall's on a rookie contract. He's not making very much, all told.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:48 pm

Randall Cobb. Not Damarious Randall.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:45 pm

^^THIS^^

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:47 pm

Agreed. We didn't have a pass rush for the last month or more of the season (which makes getting to the NFCC all the more impressive, IMO) and it just killed the D. Hard to say how much it was impacted by Clay's shoulder and Perry's broken hand, but it was definitely inadequate.

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January 22, 2017 at 07:15 pm

A violent pass rush would be nice!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:29 pm

Agree!! BUT, can I be more specific and ask for rushers for up the middle, and the left end? I really do not like watching the Packers trying to convert guys all the time. I would like to add again, we need to get our hands-up when not able to place significant pressure on the opposing QB. We have some tall guys that should have been able to knock more balls down.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:50 pm

I know I'll be in the minority here with this comment, but I still feel a true 3-down ILB is priority 1. Especially if we keep 4-2-6 as our "base". If not, what's wrong with the 3-3-5? Wouldn't our LBs be better suited for that?

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:48 pm

I see nothing wrong with that if ted gets two corners as free agents. Lbs dont stop the pass. This teamgave up a record number of pass yards. They need immediate help. 325 yards in the first half, really?

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GVPacker's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:43 pm

They couldn't get enough pressure on Eli Manning and the Giants O-line wasn't very good. And if the Giants receivers caught those passes like the Falcons did maybe the Giants win that game!

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:50 pm

Ya ditto dallas. How many open passes did they flub? A couple of them would have changed the game.

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stockholder's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:48 pm

Al we do need pass rushers. But I want a CB more. How can you draft a pass rusher, like say Reggie White, when there are none. It's team rush. A Cb that can cover Julio Jones (etc.) is needed more. And how many times could he rush like charles woodson did? Woodson and Collins were never replaced. I just don't see this team getting to the super-bowl without one.

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TommyG's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:37 pm

We needed our offense to keep pace against a team that would likely score on every possession. We need our D to ensure that some of those scores were only field goals, and to create a couple of turnovers. We got none of those things. I place the defensive failings on injuries and just outright like of talent in those who were on the field. The offensive woes were the most troubling to me. Yes, the defense got blown up, but our offense did nothing until the second half to help this team.

The season is done, but unlike last year I will not be left wondering what could've been. We got our butts good and kicked. This was a sure way to say the season is over.

Nobody is getting fired; and that's okay.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:50 am

No, no! D did their part, we got FG on the second Falcons possesion. But Packers already missed FG. Falcons were 10-0 and Packers fumbled. Falcons scored. It was 17-0. Any additional wish form depleted D?
I really wonder what would happened if Packers scored FG and TD on that fumble? If it was 10-10. Is there would be some tension, some un-easy feelings amongst Falcons...
We will never know!

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Donna Sweeney's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:41 pm

Why didn't McCarthy throw the red flag on that play that they didn't place the ball where the Falcons didn't get the 3rd down the writer is talking about.

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Samson's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:43 pm

The Pack just got their a$$es kicked for a number of reasons.

Read all the comments.--- All the "excuses" are here.

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dobber's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:47 pm

If you asked any regular here what the formula was for the Packers getting their butts kicked in this one, they would have outlined what we saw in this game today.

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Donna Sweeney's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:44 pm

Sure hope they can find better talent like other teams seem to get.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:53 pm

The giants gm said to hell with it and went out and picked up top of the line pass rusher, line backer and running back and those three free agents totally changed the team from also rans to almost ins. Ted has to give up draft and development and get free agents onpass d and pass rush or ditto samte thing or worse ne t year.

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Lphill's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:45 pm

Listen fellow Packers fans it was a fun 8 game ride but does anybody here really think the Packers defense was going to stop Brady and or Brown and Bell ?
And COW go f*** yourself.

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Point-Packer's picture

January 22, 2017 at 06:58 pm

Clay Mathews is the most overrated player in the entire NFL. And overpaid. What a waste of space he was today. Lower his pay or dump him.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:08 am

COW, I'm a man of my word!! I went 2 for 4 today. I had GB +4 1/2 & Over 61, also The Pats -6 & Under 51. I would have rather lost 3 out of 4 to win the GB game.

"YOU WERE RIGHT"

LVT

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:01 pm

If you look at the drafting of defensive players in the first three rounds since the Packers last SB you get an idea why this unit has struggled

Clark - Jury's out - might get better but little impact this year.
Fackrell - not much impact this year at all
Randall - injuries aside one of the worst CB's in league this year
Rollins - never impacted much of anything positive this year
Dix - OK so far - not great - not an impact player yet
Thorton - total bust
Jones - near total bust
Perry - best year after subpar years prior
Worthy - total bust
Hayward - decent player let go for $ reasons.

No impact players and a number of out and-out busts from the area of the draft you're supposed to make hay in. I'm starting to edge toward the talents not that great camp. Greatest need is with the pass rush.

In the later rounds he did hit on Daniels, But that's countered with the likes of Bradford, McMillian, D.J Williams, Manning and Nate Palmer all who did little or nothing.

Maybe it's time for a change. The best thing about this season was the about face from Arod. Give him a defense and he'll win you a SB. Hope it's not too late

Still think they're going to replace Capers though.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:41 pm

^^^^^ My point exactly. Thank you for the perspective and research, Mojo!

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stockholder's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:13 pm

I think every GB packer fan ate crow this game. This game was over at the 1/2. I hope TT retires. I pray TT retires. Look at the teams that got to the play-offs. Everyone fixed their secondary. They all had a good offense. You want to know how to build a defense. Look what Atlanta did. Look how Seatle beat us. And I'll bet the same results would have happened, if we played Seatle. A blow out. The Rollins and Randall experiment is over. The elephants are just to damn slow. SPEED WINS! Concussions have made pussies out of are CBs. Why don't we have a all-pro CB to cover the Jones etc? Because TT won't pay One! Second, Moss needs to GO! I've had enough of slow LBs. Bring back the 4-3-4 or get faster LBs. Not One can Cover a offense that has made the playoffs. The better QB will always pick us apart or run. It's proven. Wake up stock holders. TT must go. The grass is greener on the other side.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:32 pm

He did pay one. Unfortunately, he got hurt in Week 1.

Also, did you see Randall's interception in the Seattle game? Dude is not slow. He's completely lost his confidence (and is injured). I would think Adams would make people here think twice before cutting guys after only two years, but I guess not.

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stockholder's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:48 pm

A Wr turned CB. They Balked when they paid him. Happy With the 29 th selection. I'm Not. We sign Gilmore First. Enough is enough. #2. Try this when your looking for a LB. Range and speed brings a new element to the front seven. ( Range and speed!!!) Wow how is that difficult for a team with money? TT worshipers will always leave a dislike. But it starts at the top!

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Norm's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:15 pm

Most games you can point to 1 or 2 plays that, had they gone differently, would have turned the tide of the game. Ripkowski fumble, Ryan not recovering a fumble, Crosby FG, etc. This game would have required about a dozen plays to go the other way, and even then I think the Falcons could have scored 50 if they needed to.

Admittedly the offense didn't help out the defense but just like we've seen all year long, receivers were wide open in our secondary and we got no pass rush, which exposes an already weak secondary.

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Since'61's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:29 pm

Norm - Good post. Even if Rodgers and the offense scored 40 the defense would have allowed 50 if the Falcons needed to score late in the game. If Ryan ended up with the ball last in a 44 - 44 tie the Falcons were winning the game. It's almost better that this game was over at halftime and definitely over after our defense allowed a 75 yard pass and run by Julio Jones early in 3Q than losing on the game's last play like we have done about 4 or 5 times in the playoffs. Our defense was exposed early and often and maybe just maybe some long overdue changes will be made on the defensive side. Tough way for a great run to end but at least it was a hell of a ride. Thanks, Since '61

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January 22, 2017 at 07:18 pm

With the talent capers had he did what he could do. Playing for large parts of the season without you top 3 CBs is not anything one team can overcome easily. And yes there is no pass rush. The only times rushers get home is on DB blitzes. Brice injured first play, Hyde injured just depleted the secondary more. Losing both OGs... I think the team is not as bad as we've seen today and nobody thought they'd even make the playoffs at 4-6... Atlanta made a few mistakes today and one has to take advantage... Ryan already had the fumble it seems. Evans Int? Totally misplayed the ball. Gunters Int would've been tougher. Rip held the ball like a loaf of bread...

Overall I am happy with the season, it was entertaining. I also think no matter what Patriots will win it all, so better lose NFCCG than SB...

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Slim11's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:30 pm

Given the following:

1. Injuries on defense...Troy Aikman accurately said he can't remember any team in recent seasons having the injury problems the Packers have experienced. The strength and conditioning staff and the CBA are a bad combination for the Packers. CB Sam Shields is likely done as a player in the NFL due to multiple concussions. Matthews might be on a short leash if he doesn't agree to a return to ILB. Such a move might extend his playing career.

2. Inexperience on defense. Randall, Rollins, Gunter, Brice, Martinez, Ryan, etc. being first or second year players hasn't helped. All should be better next season if they're on the roster. Most probably will.

3. Bye week in the first quarter of the season. While Green Bay needed it, they also didn't benefit from a break in the second half of the season.

4. Play calling and game planning. The Packers need better game planning and that points, in part, toward OC Tom Clements. I think he needs to go before Capers. As an associate HC/offense and the one who's the OC on paper, he's a liability. I would not be at all surprised to discover MM was heavily involved in game planning as well as play calling.

Like many others, I enjoyed running the table until this game. As always...GO PACK GO!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:57 pm

I agree with much of this, but Matthews has been playing with one arm the last half of the year in games where we had no option from a back-up stand-point. Fackrell, Perry, Elliott, Ryan, Martinez, Thomas, all down for multiple games this year and Matthews toughs it out.

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yooperman's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:32 pm

I'm not a big Capers fan or a fan of the three four defense, but TT hasn't helped him out with poor draft picks and not resigning good players and no help in free agency. You could be the best surgeon in the world, but you go into the operating room with just a knife and fork your not going to save many people.

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GVPacker's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:33 pm

Good point Al, Joe Thomas gets Shake And Baked by Dorky Matt Ryan.Geez that was real bad!

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