Packers Vs. Colts: First Impressions

My immediate thoughts on the Packers - Falcons game without benefit of a re-watch.

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- Always great when your team is already down 7 points while CBS is still showing commercials.
 
- Despite the INTs on a tipped pass and overthrown pass, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is just not very good at providing safety help. Way too slow to react. One reason why the underneath routes in the middle of the field are the Packers' undoing.
 
- Richard Rodgers with six targets in the first quarter?. Really?
 
- McCarthy and Rodgers had some nice play calls on the first series, Montgomery with 24yds on two carries. Both have disappeared.
 
- And as I write that, Montgomery is back and immediately pulls off a big run. Might want to not forget about Ty, Mike.
 
- Colts calmy, moving down the field with short passes. What that Packers did successfully last few weeks and have forgotten about. Impressive 96yd drive while Rodgers keeps bombing away...
 
- Cobb active for the game but sees not a snap in the first half. If you're not confidant playing him, why is he active? Packers personnel management....
 
- Colts pass rush was better overall than the Packers pass rush. Only way Packers got pressure against  the supposedly horrid Cols OL was all-out blitzes.
 
- 3rd qurater, I write on twitter, "How about some throws to Montgomery out of the backfield?" Next play, swing pass to Montgomery - 13 yds, first down. Not that complicated, Mike.
 
- Packers have NFL receivers. Some very good ones. They don't get much help from a scheme standpoint.
 
- Love watching Kentrell Brice hit people. Bad intent with perfect technique.
 
- Down 14 points with the way they were playing, no way I'm happy with a field goal try deep in Colts territory.
 
- Nothing, and I mean nothing infuriates me more than throwing deep on 3rd and 4-6 yds. Especially into TRIPLE coverage! GET THE FIRST DOWN AND DON'T PUNT!
 
- I've been a McCarthy critic for years, but recognized his positives, so I have never called for his firing. I'm starting to waver on that.  
 
- I hate to agree with Phil Simms, but yes, Packers should not have tried for the two point conversion.. Take the extra point and it's an 11 point game. Miss it and it's a 12 point game (need two TDs now).
 
- You're at Lambeau Field, and the Packers are losing by 18 in the fourth quarter - do you leave early?
 
- Single "pawsitive" seems to be just one new injured player - Micah Hyde.
 
 
Indianapolis 31, Packers 26 
 
 

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:38 pm

Why does McCarthy take Montgomery out after the first 2 plays of the first quarter and not put him back in until 12:05 of the 2nd quarter. I for one am sick of Mike McCarthy and the weird ass things he does.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:59 pm

In order to feature Richard Rodgers it seams.

Lol!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:27 pm

I really don't get it.

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KenEllis's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:34 pm

No one gets Richard Rodgers getting playing time ever.

Except possibly TT who used a 3rd round pick on him. Yuck.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:55 pm

Me too. Done with his idiocy.

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jyros's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:21 pm

There's definitely some weird @ss voodoo shite going on in the fish bowl
that is Green Bay.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:44 pm

I think I'm giving up. This was supposed to be the most complete team since 2010, now 4-4. Un-f******-REAL. Packers lost to a bad team today.

And like Al I have long defended MM, but I think I am officially done. This buffoon just keeps to his stubborn ways even if it means losing. Ive said that MM is a brilliant offensive coordinator but a downright terrible coach and I have officially reached my boiling point. He must be gone.

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eqfan592's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:41 pm

I'm done making excuses for this team. There simply is none. These guys were clear favorites for the Super Bowl going into the season, and MM has coached them into a level of mediocrity that has been unheard of in GB for some time. It's inexcusable.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:16 pm

Im with you all the way on that. Were just always saying that the next few games or next year will get better. Im just done with all that. This could go on for 20 years if something doesn't change. If only MM wasn't so complacent and unemotional we just might not have this old and tiring problem. If he doesnt change then TT ought to seriously consider moving on.

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ollie418's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:52 pm

Totally agree!

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:57 pm

Whoever decides a 50+ yd bomb on 3rd and short, here is a clue:. IT NEVER WORKS

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KenEllis's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:53 pm

From those of us who have dared questioned the greatness of TT and MM for several years now, welcome aboard.

Maybe we can salvage another SB appearance out of ARod's career.

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Nerd's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:07 pm

Aaron is not part of the solution.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:11 pm

Both TT and MM will have to be watching from their couches. --- If AR even plays in another SB, it'll be with another team not run by clowns like TT/MM. --- I always thought this was obvious to even a novice fan.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:12 pm

No real capable RB on the 53. -- I even know better.

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:40 pm

Tarynfor12 says:
November 05, 2016 at 12:46 pm(edit)
With everything the Colts have going against them, the Packers however, can be at the most inopportune time to themselves, the bearer of gifts to those in need of a present and give away what cannot be afforded.
I will assume a win for our Packers and hope our front seven with special consideration for one can shine even more so against the utterly worst offensive line in the NFL. If not, another checkmark against a new big deal.
Packers 31- 26

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Need anything else be said.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:14 pm

OK, so you were right. What do you want? -- A dollar?

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:28 pm

A dollar would certainly be more than the respect I get most times for speaking truth no matter how ugly it may be at times. : )

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:03 pm

You're right. --- Truth is always the most pertinent point. --- You deserve more than a dollar for your truth and consistency. --- Seriously.

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4thand1's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:41 pm

My first impression, I'm done with this team. Lose again at home in beautiful weather? Somethings gotta give, this team needs a big shake up.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:45 pm

I know I've been an unpopula, broken record, but regime change is overdue.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:16 pm

If you are done with the team, will you then officially quit posting? --- Please, do it!! --- you're lousy at it.

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:20 pm

Don't you have to go and console your fellow Vikings Fans for their Meltdown?

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:22 pm

I've been a PackFan longer than you've been alive,

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4thand1's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:23 pm

And you suck

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:16 am

Hmmm, then you're pretty old and if that's actually true my apologies. You do talk about the Vikings quite often here though.

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:17 am

Double Post

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:03 pm

First impressions:
STs awful again. I can't remember how long it's been since we've had good STs or a good ST coach.
Chuck Janis!!! His dropped pass should have been a TD. His lousy route running and inability to catch have hurt the team too often, His experiment and career should be terminated, tonight, don't even wait for tomorrow, he's chucked.
As usual the Capers defense did it's impression of a sieve. 96 yard, 5 minute drive allowed to close out the half after a rare great punt by Schum. Not to mention that the middle of the field was wide open all game as it has been for about 5 seasons.
In the first half the Packers played with no energy or sense of urgency again. They picked it up in the second half but they had dug too big of a hole to get out of.
Of course the defense could not make a late game stop, again, to get the ball back for Rodgers.
We were outplayed and outcoached in every phase of the game. Terrible coaching job again.
Oh wait, I almost forgot, we have injuries so everything is OK and the coaches are great when we get all of our players back for 2017.
This team has got to be kidding us. Al I'm with you. After being a solid MM supporter since 2007 I'm beginning to waver on him as well.
Thanks, Since '61

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Nerd's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:44 pm

Those points were the difference in the final score.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:08 pm

Our STs cost us 10 points. 7 given away on the KO return. 3 lost on the missed FG. To be fair Crosby has been great since 2013 so I can't get on him too much. Janis dropped 7 points and we left an extra point on the field. That's an 18 point swing. Should have been 37-24 Pack. Thanks, Since '61

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:18 pm

Let's replay the entire game. -- I see the Pack winning 62-10 by reversing and changing many plays. --- Come on -- be real.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:40 pm

ST KR return for TD = 7. ST return to our 45 = 3 more. Our missed FG, albeit a 48 yarder = 3 more. Drop by Janis. AR missed Nelson. Easy to come up with 13 to 17 or even 20. But that's not it.

Monty is running wild so we take him out. The run, the bomb, the short passing game were all there. We do a little of each but miss on the bombs. 3rd and 4 and we go for the bomb into double, maybe triple, coverage. Davis wide open short for a first and he is ignored. 2 TE sets again.

We seem to keep a bunch of players for their ST ability, but still suck at coverage. This isn't a reference to the gunners, but to the core or middle guys.

Bottom line is we led in rushing, passing, time of possession, won the turnover battle, and still lost. Front 7 not as good as I thought or Indy's OL is better than I thought. Needed blitzs to apply pressure far too much.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:55 pm

Every NFL game can be replayed. --- Means nothing. --- Even Goodall will not listen no matter how good of an argument you may have. --- It's part of the game and American democracy. ( same reason why Trump will fade into oblivion after Tuesday)

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:31 am

"Bottom line is we led in rushing, passing, time of possession, won the turnover battle, and still lost."

Just shows that stats can be meaningless, but also proves that timing, smart play and strong decisive coaching at critical monents, mean everything.

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2016 at 08:06 am

The plays were on A-Rod going long. Somethings got to give soon. (Between MM and A-rod) Especially ,If he keeps trying to go to Adams and force it in there. (Bench A-rod or trade him!)

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Curry Rambeau's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:43 pm

What if?

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 06:53 am

Why blame Janis . Yes he dropped or let a huge pass bounce off his head, but Rodgers going for bombs on 3rd and short are this teams killers.
But real issue is MM. He has to go. Sick of his style and embarrassing losses. Wait a minute it is not even a style its a moronic approach each game, constantly trying to be so smart and go away from what is working,poor clock and game management, lack of any killer instinct...... On and on.

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2016 at 03:23 pm

I don't blame Janis. But I noticed something sunday. Instead of letting Janis catch one short to get the jitters out. It's Bombs away and you better catch it! But also. I don't like are Wrs wearing those facial shields. It catches reflections,magnifies and distorts the ball velocity. They will say no, but I wish they would not wear them. Stuff we can't see with the camera, may be seen only at a certain angle.

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Nerd's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:44 pm

This team has always sought out adversity. But today we got beat at home by a JV team.

The good news is, we're used to being here.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:44 pm

McCarthy said at halftime....we have to play faster.....WTF does that mean. the whole coaching staff neds a new line of employment as far as i'm conserned.

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Nerd's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:45 pm

It's looking more and more like it was a HUGE mistake not to blow it up and start all over again after that playoff debacle against Seattle.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:46 pm

Ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:48 pm

I don't know what McCarthy said... He mumbled a bunch of garbage and looked like he was in shock. Not the guy I want to motivate the troops.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:30 pm

Has to play faster, yet continued to trot out the 2 slowest receivers on the roster.. while the fastest barely played.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:34 am

Aargh. And I could have swore there were two types of 3rd down plays. Bomb on 3rd and short and on 3rd and long, run up the middle for 5 yards. No imagination whatsoever. Same old shit at some point each game.

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:46 pm

Minnesota is doing everything they can to GIVE the Packers a tie for 1st place and they come out and play a game like that? Can we please agree change is needed? The Packers shouldn't have needed any motivation to have them ready to play this game. They took the field knowing the Vikings had lost and failed on each level, Offense, Defense, AND Special Teams.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:37 pm

Nick - totally agree!!! Lack of effort and preparation, especially in the first half is on the coaches. They should have come out flying for this game. Instead they played like they could win by throwing their helmets on the field and the Colts kicked their butts in the first half on the Packers home field, disgraceful performance, no excuses. Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:41 am

That first half Since '61 is exactly what's been wrong with this team the last 2 years. Perhaps McCarthy never recovered from the NFCCG loss in Seattle but his Football Team played as uninspired as he looks every Sunday on the sideline.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:00 am

No Patton here! I'd settle for Bill Murray.

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ollie418's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:49 pm

Time for MM to go. The team is unprepared and uninspired.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:49 pm

More then anything I just would like to know why Davis, Allison were not on the field more, and Rich Rodgers and Perillo on the field as much as they were?

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:54 pm

and why isn't Joe Thomas getting more snaps. he seems to make things happen in the middle.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:24 pm

I don't get it either.

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2016 at 08:02 am

Because he stinks. Yes he had a first couple great game. Flash in the pan stuff. (Bet PEDS. ) But Moss is playing with Martinez head. Ryan is calling the plays and their moving Ryan and Martinez around. You also have a team without Mathews.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:00 pm

Ya. ya. RC has it all figured out. LOL.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:25 pm

Has what figured out?

I asked a simple question.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:42 pm

RC with all the answers. -- You might want to back off on all your commentary. -- The best way to be wrong is to say everything you think.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:01 pm

WTF are you talking about? I have posted 4 comments to this article all asking the same question...

What answers? I asked questions... I didn't provide any answers..

Time to step away from the bottle.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:05 am

That is reason alone to get a new HC. I mean what was the logic in that. Confuse the other team? Go away from game tape from previous week. Element of surprise. Play faster my ass. More like element of stupidity.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:24 am

right... I'm definitely coming around to that.

I really don't get it. I just want to know what was the decision in it.

The last 2 weeks the offense went with a lot of 4 and 5 WR sets with no TE's. And they drove the ball and was much better.
This week they change it completely and the offense struggles.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:55 am

No decision RC, MM is delusional. There is no rationale here, no matter what he may give us. We all have eyes and a better understanding of the flow of game and talent available.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 07, 2016 at 08:22 am

I agree Tundraboy.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:50 pm

This is just an average team. Combine that with a below average effort and the Colts win in Lambeau.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 07, 2016 at 07:07 am

Led by a coach who does not use every player and every advantage to win.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:50 pm

rodgers pretty much back 2 square one today. held the ball too long and can't throw a deep pass anymore.

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:08 pm

It is the Olivia Munn effect in action.... He was great when he played with a chip on his shoulder and wasn't getting laid. Now, he is an overrated has-been who can't throw a pass unless the defense makes a pre snap penalty

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ollie418's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:51 pm

Against the Cowboys and Colts the Packers did not have the lead at any time in both games. That is pathetic and time for MM to go!

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:51 pm

Not Ready For Prime Time Players.....
Been saying so since preseason.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:56 pm

you've been saying that for how many years now? finally may be right.

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:00 pm

You sir are confusing my diagnosis of Perry for 4+ years with the team. : )

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:02 pm

your diagnosis of Perry was spot on, wasn't it?

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:08 pm

Since he disappeared yet again against the Colts , I feel pretty confident still. : )

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November 06, 2016 at 06:55 pm

First time in a long time I turned the game off when the Colts scored the last TD not going to happen this year..

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carusotrap's picture

November 06, 2016 at 06:55 pm

8-8. That's the team we have.

I would love to see what a new GM and coaching staff might do with this roster (besides blow it up). Alas, Mark Murphy is not making any changes, so settle in people. This the new normal.

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November 06, 2016 at 07:04 pm

Only a losing record will bounce MM out. --- TT may retire because he's just too old to compete as a GM in the NFL. It's a young man's game.

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November 06, 2016 at 07:09 pm

The sad thing is you're right. Murphy is to busy with "Title Town" and making Lambeau Field a year round money machine. Well at least MORE of a money machine than it is now. Just think, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers and only ONE SB appearance and several one and done. How can people still continue to make a case for these knuckleheads??

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November 06, 2016 at 07:26 pm

Agree!!

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November 06, 2016 at 07:46 pm

Nick - 2 SB appearance under Favre and one with AR = 3. Still an inadequate number, so I agree with the sentiment.

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:44 am

Correct TGR..I was referring to the Ted Thompson regime. My bad in not being clearer.

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BELIEVER's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:54 pm

Mash Potato Mike will keep his job and we will see the same crap next year just like last year.

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November 06, 2016 at 07:00 pm

McCarthy prolly has at least 2 more years to fix the pad level and get them playing faster

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:15 pm

MM is obviously and frankly failing with a talented team

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:00 pm

The vodka is now flowing feely after this debacle. I see a 7 - 9 season. Really hope I'm wrong on that. But, if that happens maybe, just maybe, HC change will happen. I was an early bird on moving MM out right after the 2011 season, but kept my mouth shut. I feel the same today.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:04 pm

that playoff loss in Seattle convinced me.

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Norm's picture

November 07, 2016 at 06:55 pm

After 2011, really?
2010 - injury plagued season and still Super Bowl champions
2011 - 15-1 record, record-setting offense, but first round playoff exit at the hands of eventual champs NYG

And you wanted MM fired after 2011? Capers maybe, because that 2011 defense couldn't stop a runny nose.

I'm sure glad you're not my boss.

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Spud Rapids's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:02 pm

You guys are all ridiculously whiny... Half the season left anything could happen they could 7-1 there last 8 games or lose 5 and go 7-9.

For everyone who wants to fire everyone and shake it up please provide who you'd think would be a better coach? I'd like to know

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:06 pm

Fans don't choose head coaches but we do pay the bills.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:32 pm

Samson - part of the problem is that we don't pay the bills anymore or at least not as much as we did before. The Packers will soon have numerous year round revenue streams plus the fact that Lambeau has about a 25-30 year waiting list so winning or losing won't change the revenue very much. Also remember that TT, MM and Murphy have already earned more money than they can spend in their lifetimes so where is the motivation to make changes? The beat goes on, for now. Thanks, Since '61

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:32 pm

We can't get a head coach during the season. But we sure can do without our OC entirely. When everyone feels their job is secure, there is no incentive to make radical changes, which are needed. Something needs to happen this week, the art of it is 'what'.

This isn't just a 'this year' thing. It's a long term malaise that has been creeping into the organization. We've been media darlings too long and have weeds of 'entitlement' choking out our sense of urgency.

When AR says he doesn't need pre-season snaps to get ready for the regular season, it's clear he no longer feels any pressure to preform. He has grown too accustomed to being the next first ballot Packer HOF QB.

Someone needs to close the doors at 1265 Lombardi Ave. and let the 'bovine excrement' fly. We are way past R-E-L-A-X. It's time to show a little pee'd off private owner here. The art of it is knowing where to apply the pressure and how much.

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:50 am

I've said it before as have several others, there's just too many chefs in the kitchen in Green Bay. McCarthy, Tom Clements, & Edgar Bennett all at the top of the food chain in Green Bay.

More specific though is this team has struggled since Bennett became OC and the WR play has gotten worse since he stopped coaching them after 2014.

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2016 at 08:11 am

Clements and Bennet should be let go. I would bring back Joe Philbin. Seriously!

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:29 pm

I will coach the team better. And I am looking for a job. So , pay me whatever McCarthy makes and I promise to make all the changes needed. Sign a TE and RB. Short rhythmic passes and screens. And I will load the middle of the defense with backers.

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:10 pm

Reading these comments....reality hurts doesn't it. : )

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:06 pm

Hi Spud: MM has lost the team IMO. He & Rodgers have issues IMO. There really isn't much of a choice here, but let's see where the Pack ends up after Week 17. You do have a valid point.

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WilsonMaywick's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:07 pm

In any organization now days if you don't innovate you stagnate. This team is very stagnant from coaching, scheming, and execution.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:09 pm

obviously chuck pagano was a better coach than MM today . do you reallly believe that the way this team is underperforming in ALL areas is not coach related in any way?

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4thand1's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:29 pm

Exactly, they have holes everywhere.

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:09 pm

This game was a Sham. Throwing deep so many times when it was 3rd and short, is a crock of BS! Such poor decisions by A-rod! I knew they were going to lose when A-Rod kept looking for Adams, and trying to force it in to him. How many times have I written they must keep it short for these Wrs. Let alone Adams. If they think Janis missed catch was the Game, Cut him! A-rod still wasn't happy with him even when he caught the Ball. In Fact I would cut the whole 2014 Wr class! (That includes Richard Rodgers at TE too.) Perillo deserves the start! The offense sucked! Monty was the only bright spot. Cobb should have just sat the entire game. Such a pathetic looking defensive backfield! The defense still is soft over the middle. Martinez is not doing his job. Thomas can be cut! Ryan and Ha Ha saved so many big plays. And what a screwed up 31 yard punt. Cut him! We knew when the season started this guy could not place the ball down right for crosby. TT should be fired! From super-bowl to sh*t.

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:28 pm

And this dude is a true-blue PackFan. --- LOL.

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:52 pm

And you wrote more negativity then I ever have. You must be a Bears fan.

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Curry Rambeau's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:48 pm

Breathe in. Exhale. One Mississs...This is supposed to be entertinment. Enjoy the way things play out. We have no control over it. These are millionaires enjoying the prime of their lives. The fans are nothing.

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Lphill's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:10 pm

The Packers defense has to be last in the league in 3 rd down conversations, can't just 1 DB actually knock down a pass or are the coached to let them catch it and just make a tackle.again we lose because one more stop was needed and did not happen.

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greenngold's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:11 pm

This team is broken.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:12 pm

So 17 points allowed in the first half despite 2 turnovers. D is pedestrian at best. And please, every team has injuries. Dom and MM need to go. And Murphy needs to have a chat with TT>

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Pumpguy1988's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:14 pm

Is it me? Has Rodgers game slipped since he met Olivia?

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:13 pm

I call it the Olivia Munn effect.... Makes you throw a bomb anytime you have a 3rd and 2yds or less

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Curry Rambeau's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:14 pm

I guess that moral victory @ Falcons didn't last long.

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dobber's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:51 pm

You could see the outcome of that Falcons game going one of two ways...
1. ...the moral victory we were all hoping for. Things getting better, holding up on the road when undermanned, but losing out in the last minute.
2. ...a demoralizing "we should've won this", emphasizing the divide in the clubhouse loss.

The way they sleepwalked through the middle two quarters tonight, I don't wonder which it was...

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Curry Rambeau's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:18 pm

That poor squirrel was entertaing and much quicker than the Packers' tight ends. Once again penalties helped the offense more than game planning and execution. Can't be much fun in the locker room this evening.

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Pack204's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:21 pm

This team is broken. There has to be change they cant keep going through this and think it will rectify itself. Im all for continuity but it's just gone stale, its time for a new direction after this season.

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Allan Murphy's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:28 pm

4-4 I call this season is done .............

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Samson's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:32 pm

4-4. ---- Means little at this point. --- Slip into the playoffs at 10-6 (or even 9-7) and you can still win it all.

Only in MLB does the very best team win (it all) the World Series --- ala the Cubbies.

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Lphill's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:31 pm

Today's inactives, Nick Perry, Datone Jones, julious Peppers , Mike Daniels.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:36 pm

Brilliantly said, sir! Thanks, Since '61

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Melody Ann's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:36 pm

So they lost a game , it's not the end of the world. I think their doing pretty good for play week to week with all the injuries they have .

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Melody Ann's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:37 pm

Playing

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:17 pm

Cant agree. Every team has injuries to deal with. Injuries to our DB's can't be blamed for AR throwing 40 yards down field on third down when we have a guy open for 5 yards and a first down right in front of him.

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EdsLaces's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:36 pm

I hate football....well not college ball. Took my son to his first WVU game yesterday which was awesome haha!

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yooperman's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:38 pm

I new this game was over when the colts scored right before halftime, and on the kick off the packers don't even try for a runback but are content to take a touchback and not even try for a return, theirs 11 seconds left in the half, a half that showed no motivation what the hell ya got to lose. At least try for a return and maybe a spark of life to start the third quarter.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:44 pm

Yea, that lack of run back attempt pretty much sums up this team. Can't return one for a touchdown if you don't try.

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fthisJack's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:42 pm

i figured it was a loss the minute Indy ran the kickoff back for a TD. and later ran one back 60 some yards. how many years has MM been trying to fix the ST and we're still waiting. all these years and the special teams are still costing us games.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:42 pm

his team has talent. It's just not being utilized. There are other coaches out there that would be getting way more from the guys we have than we currently do. It's sad. Much of it is in the mind. These guys just simply have to reach the limit where enough is enough and they get seriously ticked off and play that way. They also have to stop shooting themselves in the foot all the time. I'm not so mad that we have a cruddy team, but that we have a good team that's playing cruddy.

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al bundy's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:43 pm

No surprises for me, they are who I thought they were:
1. Dix had two interceptions by playing out of position. Had first been been on target the guy was already past dix and would have been easy td. Second interception he was playing off 5 yards deep and caught an over pass.
2. Teams are hot trying to run against the pack. They all know the pass d is pourous so our run d looks better than it really is.
3. O line and d line are looking worse then when we had had guys suspended.
4. linebackers had hands on hips indicated tired out in the second quarter. This yeam is out of shape.
5. Nick perry was where? R rogers targeted? Davante adams doing what most of game?
Piss poor effort all around.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:46 pm

Definitely not getting much pressure with the down linemen.

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CAG123's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:17 pm

You're wrong on HHCD first pick. He was manning the middle of the field and saw where Luck was going to throw almost immediately. The moment Rollins slipped he was on his way.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 07, 2016 at 03:37 am

He's wrong 99.99% of the time, doesn't keep him from posting.

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 04:58 am

The receiver wasn't past HHCD, he stepped in front of the receiver AFTER Rollins had slipped. Rollins was the player the receiver was past, not HHCD.

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lambeauleap's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:22 pm

Yes it's only week 9. Yes there is still 8 games left to be played. But the panic alarm has been pressed. The Green Bay Packers are a mess and there is no R-E-L-A-X happening. Mainly because there has been no real glimmer of hope that what broke sometime in 2015 will be fixed anytime soon. So at some point you just have to be honest and call a spade a spade: We're a mediocre football team.

I do think at this point everything has to be on the table in the blame game.

Let's start with Ted Thompson.

We've drafted defense heavy the last 5 years and what do we have to show for it? Still a below average group overall. We could not generate a pass rush against the worst o-line in the league? Are you KIDDING me?

Too many hole fillers and not enough play makers in too many positions.

We have a below average receiving group. They cannot beat man coverage, are slow, and terribly inconsistent.

Absolutely no TE is painful. Outside of J-Mike he cannot draft a TE to save his life.

No RB is also painful. We started the season with 2. We gambled. And lost. Now we're forced to use a WR as an RB and hope Rodgers can be a healthy Russel Wilson.

Ted absolutely refuses to engage in the free agent market. Which is fine but in that case he needs to hit on most of his draft picks. Lately he hasn't and the result is what's on the field. And what's on the field isn't good.

Moving on to coaching.

Mike McCarthy has lost his touch. The team is undisciplined, unprepared, and lacking fundamentals in every facet of the game. He's not getting his team ready to play and his lack of creativity and stubbornness at this point is costing the Packers. Teams have figured us out and we lack the ability to adjust to that. The result is horrible play calling and stalled drives.

Not that it truly matters but I'd love to know if MM calls these 50 yard bombs or if it's Rodgers deciding to do it. Because whoever it is needs to be slapped upside the head.

A rookie coach for the WRs has been a failed experiment. This group, after last season, was in dire need of someone who could mask their many many many faults/warts/issues and help them develop. The took a chance on this rookie guy. But wow. The same problems that plagued us last year continue this year and may actually be worse. How is a guy like Jeff Janis still even around? We hear he's still "not ready". I get that the offense isn't pre school math easy but come on now. He's in his 3rd year. At what point is he just never going to be ready? Is that a coach issue or a player issue-I'm not sure-but if you're in the NFL there should be some of both. Coaches helping you develop and players taking the next step. Neither is happening here.

Speaking of, I still cannot believe how in the heck Ron Zook-a Shawn Slocum understudy, won the ST job. Are you kidding me? Yes that was a couple years ago now but we're still sitting here week in and out going HOW? WHY? HUH? Just like we did all those years with Slocum. Special teams just continues to be a problem for this team. When they replaced Shawn they should have cleaned house with that entire unit and found outside blood. They didn't and here we sit.

Dom. New week. Same problems.

Edgar. New week. Same Problems.

Lastly players.

These are professionals and they should be able to execute. They aren't.

I get that you can't squeeze blood from a stone but at times there are things that are RIGHT THERE for the taking that seem to just fail to happen.

Let's start with our 20 million dollar QB. I have no idea how he went from elite to average in a little over a year but wow the fall to Earth has been painful. His fundamentals and decision making are abysmal. He needs a coach who isn't going to baby him. I know he's sensitive. It doesn't need to happen in public but he needs to put in alot more work and get back to some basics here. He likes to call people out on the field for their mistakes. Well it's beyond time he needs to be called out for his. Zero excuses why he couldn't take advantage of a 31st ranked defense.

Jeff Janis and that drop. Just ugh. You are paid to catch the ball. You had ONE job and didn't do it.

Mason Crosby with the line drive kick off. If there is 1 thing you avoid in kick offs and punts it is the line drives right down the middle. And 1 second into the game what does he do? Line drive right down the middle. Then he missed a FG. I mean two glaring errors that cost this team.

Richard Rodgers just continues to disappoint.

Adams at one point close to the half had 2 catches for -1 yard.

Rollins spends more time on the grass then he does standing upright.

There is alot of blame to go around with pretty much everyone failing at their jobs. At this point there is no easy fix. Not anymore. It's no longer about a bad game or bad stretch. This has been a consistent issue since last season so reality is-this is the Packers. So there really is no point in hoping it'll get fixed next week because it won't.

And before I hear it about injuries do hurt yes absolutely. No RB is huge I get that. Clay Matthews being out hurts the pass rush. Peppers is old and alot slower. But let's also not use that a crutch to mask the fact the Packers are just not good right now. You can tell it's way deeper then a few key injuries.

I think significant changes have to made for 2017 Packers to be much different. If there is a team desperate for something new it's the Green Bay Packers.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:52 pm

Wow there leap, that was some output there. I'm still reading through but want to say that the receivers aren't as bad as you might think. If you watch film, there are many times that there are open receivers that AR completely ignores. Giving up 1st downs for gorilla heaves. I will say however, we are lacking that top tier guy who just keeps making plays. I love Jordy, but I don't think he's going to be that guy anymore. If we could get a top WR, Jordy would be way more dangerous than when he has to be the #1. Not his fault. Love the guy, and actually like most of our guys. I do say however, Janis should be let go and get Burks or Starks back on the active roster. (back to your article....)

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lambeauleap's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:00 pm

LOLOL! Sorry my post did get really long. I'm long winded. Clearly.

I do think our receivers overall are below average. There are times Rodgers has to pull the trigger and doesn't. If he would there may be some better output from them. It starts with coaching. They should be putting these receivers into better positions-such as bunch formations and coming outta the back field to help them because they often don't uncover.

This team lives or dies by Rodgers. Right now he's not good so the team is not good. I get that. But not having a top tier receiver hurts as well.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:05 pm

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Living and dying by AR. When you invest that much money in one player, it lowers your ability to field players of adequate ability in other positions. If that star player doesn't perform, he does more to negatively impact a team than if any other lower paid guy would if he underperformed. I am beginning to see a solid argument to spread that money out more instead of massive investments in one or two positions. It makes for a better overall team while not necessarily making any one aspect 'the best in the league'.

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lambeauleap's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:18 pm

Well you absolutely have to have a good QB in the league. So I get investing in one but he's paid 20 million a year and isn't playing like he should make $20 bucks. That's a problem.

The other issue is our other highest paid player-Clay Matthews-spends more time on the sidelines then he does on the field.

So our money is significantly tied up in 2 players who are both not producing. It's a problem for sure. But not sure it's an easy fix. Unless you can draft a good QB and develop them every 3 years not sure how you help that.

Unless you are NE it just doesn't happen.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:01 pm

Leap, on TT, I have to admit I'm not sure what type of Defense he is trying to build. The problem with draft and develop that I see is that you are perpetually young and learning. You never get to the wily veteran level because if you draft good guys, you then release them when they demand a premium salary. It's a tough balance for sure.

We had way too many young DB's on this team We needed volume but we had nearly no experience at all outside of Shields. This constant building from the draft always leaves you short on experience. TT has to balance that better.

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2016 at 05:07 am

Ding, Ding, Ding..... I've said for years Ted T is a excellent Cap Manager, but why wouldn't he when his solution for everything is the UDFA? Ted refuses to bring in any veteran with experience. The Packers have always been known for having complicated Offensive and Defensive schemes, one's that take a few years to learn. TT is always clearly out the "Older" for the young and cheaper which clearly doesn't mean better.

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Tarynfor12's picture

November 06, 2016 at 07:50 pm

I know many of the misguided here had their hopes crushed today but to help you all feel better, here is a song that should reinvigorate your blindness to this teams ailments.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmBXEZEYtg

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A_Lerxst_in_Packerland's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:00 pm

Well, that's 3 & 1/2 hours of my life I wish I could have back...won't make the same mistake next week, though.

I agree with Al and others - so tired of Aaron Rodgers going for the big play on 3rd & short when converting 1st down is open and keeps the drive going. What a waste.

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pilot67's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:02 pm

I'm tired of watching other QB's save and win games in final 2 minutes. I'm tired of watching other D's stop the Packers at end of game.
I'll keep watching and hoping but it is tiring.
We need a coach who can adjust and not call same plays all the time. That even I can predict.

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CAG123's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:06 pm

I'm so sick of seeing this team fall asleep for 50-55 minutes then suddenly realize they're in football game. They play just good enough in the last 10-8 minutes of the game just to make it close and fall short. If I see one more Richard Rodgers stumbling 3 yard catch I'm going to scream!

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:08 pm

The question I have is 'when are the players going to have enough of losing'? Just because you have multi-million dollar contracts (most of you), doesn't mean everyone else out there is going to lay over an let you run over them.

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Rossonero's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:16 pm

What bothered me most was the lack of passion. This team was complacent and it showed. That's on McCarthy. Time for him to go. Now another week of him saying "fundamentals, blah blah blah fundamentals..."

Even weirder was as I watched the game and saw mistake after mistake, I realize I am now numb. I'm not mad and it feels weird. I think I'm past the point of being furious because this team has pissed me off so much already.

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4zone's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:31 pm

Packers are in need of some serious 'tough love'.

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Johnchnfl's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:23 pm

D is allowing 3rd downs conversions all the time, there is no improvement on this. Since week 1 we've had the same problem.

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JerseyAl's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:29 pm

Colts were 7 of 14 on 3rd down. Hardly "all the time." What should be noted is the reason the Colts had as much success as they did was because they weren't throwing bombs on third down. They were content to just try to get a first down.

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Johnchnfl's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:53 pm

You're right it's not "all the time", I'll change it to key moments, late in the games, some times on 3rd and 10. I see you think what should be noted is the good approach of Colts in 3rd downs. But mine is about our D, coverage and pass rush on those situations.

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:26 pm

How about this?. When it really matters and the defense needs a stop, they fail. When it really matters and the offense needs to produce, they fail. And ST was never really successful, so they continue to fail. This is starting to remind me of the 70's and 80's - lots of failing going on

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Johnchnfl's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:40 pm

Lets hope something change soon. Both sides of the game are important but D is my main concern this season, injuries, scheme, etc.

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pacman's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:31 pm

I figured it out - posted during the game. MM wants to be fired. If he walks away they don't have to pay out his contract. Only thing that makes sense.

And AR - sorry, he has just lost it. He's now an avg qb. Years wasted under MM. Everyone would be thrilled to see him find it again, but if it his idea to throw those long passes, he's lost his brains too. He used to be a smart and talented qb. Now he is just avg and stupidly stubborn.

Frustrated with everyone else.

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:52 pm

The detroit Lions kept Stafford. Many feel he is the best Qb in the division now. But How many coaches has he gone through? So where does that put A-Rod and MM. This was questioned at the beginning of the season. But how much rope should MM give A-Rod. Is A-rod trying to get MM fired? After this game; TT needs to get them in his office.

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Rossonero's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:36 pm

Perhaps we are entering some mediocre years. We already experienced this with Favre and Sherman. Is history going to repeat itself? It sure feels like it.

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Handsback's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:47 pm

For two games Green Bay played the short passing game and made headway using Monty/Cobb as RBs. This game they started it but went back to the same gameplan they used in the first four games. The outcome was expected. They are going to be an average team this year. They could be better, but somewhere they think (they being the coaches and Rodgers) they have a better solution....so far they better stick with the New England game plan of short passes, move the chains, and take those long passes when they aren't expecting.

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:30 pm

I seriously believe you would coach better. I agree completely, and this is so obvious, yet for what ever reason, this plan is rarely used.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 06, 2016 at 08:48 pm

12-4 will win this thing...

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:37 pm

You are delusional, but I love it!. Why not just go for it and pull a Tin Cup?. Playing more loose would probably help the most

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 06, 2016 at 10:11 pm

You are correct sir. I am totally delusional.

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mrj007's picture

November 06, 2016 at 09:37 pm

You are delusional, but I love it!. Why not just go for it and pull a Tin Cup?. Playing more loose would probably help the most

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 06, 2016 at 10:13 pm

I repeat..You are correct sir. I am totally delusional.

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Larry Wolf's picture

November 06, 2016 at 10:02 pm

The Packers' next three games are away. Since they cannot even win at home, I concur that this season is over.

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Grimbo's picture

November 07, 2016 at 03:08 am

This team sucks. The coaches are terrible.

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Pack12's picture

November 07, 2016 at 10:11 am

I think it's time for a change. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect different results. MM's offense has pretty much been the same for the last few years and defenses are having an easy time figuring it out. In my opinion, MM is not effective with the players any longer and much of what he says is going on dead ears. Rodgers' window is closing and I'm afraid that unless there is a change that we will continue being disappointed.

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