Packers Preseason Stock Report
By Carter Semb
Welp, the Packers’ stock market hasn’t been the strongest over the last couple of days. The Packers’ first preseason game is behind them, and it wasn’t exactly pretty. The Packers lost to the New York Jets 30-10, but the game felt even worse than the score. The starters played a total of three series combined: two for the offense, one for the defense. It didn’t really seem to matter who was in the game, though. It was sloppy through and through. Matt LaFleur said after the game, “Well, that was a humbling experience…not what we want to put out there.”
Luckily, when examining the stock of individual players, some players did themselves some good. One thing to remember, though: it’s important not to react impulsively. It’s better to have a long-term perspective, stay calm, and keep everything in perspective. Saturday’s game was a good test for many young players, but it’s important not to overreact to one performance.
🧀 However you feel about that first pre-season performance is valid. pic.twitter.com/I5fAXGrjxh
— Pack-A-Day (@PackADayPodcast) August 10, 2025
Overall, several players improved their stock over the last week. The Packers had three strong practices on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, in addition to their preseason game on Saturday. But there are also a handful of players whose stock is trending in the wrong direction. There’s still time left in the preseason for any player to change their trajectory, but the number of chances to do so is decreasing. But without further ado, it’s time to dive into this week’s stock report.
Stock Up: Bo Melton
Melton might be one of the most talked-about players since training camp started, and the hype is warranted. The Packers toyed with the idea of switching Melton from wide receiver to cornerback during the off-season. Melton was on board with giving it a shot, and the rest is history. Now several weeks into training camp, Melton’s progress and performance have him gradually moving his way up the Packers’ cornerback depth chart.
With Nate Hobbs missing practice due to a knee injury and Keisean Nixon sitting out of team drills, Bo Melton was one of the starting cornerbacks for the Packers at last Thursday's practice. By no means was it a perfect day for Melton, but he didn’t look out of place either. “I definitely wasn’t expecting to make tons of plays. I ain’t made a million of them, but I’ve made some plays,” Melton said after practice. “I was like, ‘OK,’ so I did surprise myself with the skills I brought to the table, I would say.”
Saturday was another step for Melton. It was the first time he played cornerback in a game situation, and he played quite a bit. He took over for the second defensive series, but the Packers shut him down after halftime. His performance wasn’t perfect, but no one expected it to be. Melton played 12 snaps in coverage. He was targeted twice and allowed two receptions for 21 yards.
🧀 If you think the Bo Melton at corner thing is just a cute story, think again.
This dude looks the part… pic.twitter.com/NkV59LbVNf
— CheeseheadTV 🧀 (@cheeseheadtv) August 8, 2025
Every day continues to be a learning experience for Melton, and he seems to be taking it in stride. “I feel like they have really coached me up to the point where I am now. I feel like I’m going to get better every single day,” Melton stated. “I’m going to keep stacking, keep getting better every day. I can’t control everything, so at the end of the day, I just want to go out there, be myself, and play corner.”
Melton has always had the physical characteristics to stick at cornerback. As a draft prospect, his 9.24 RAS score was elite. Melton’s speed, explosion, and agility are all elite physical traits, and those have translated well in his transition to corner. And surprisingly enough, Melton’s lack of experience has been beneficial. Defensive passing game coordinator Derrick Ansley shared, “He’s done a really good job so far. He’s a blank slate with not a lot of bad habits.”
The more reps Melton gets, the better he seems to get. The Packers shouldn’t be relying on him to go out and play 70 snaps per game in the regular season, but he’s shown he can hold his own. Melton is also a vital member on special teams. “The guy gives you everything he has…We just need to keep playing him,” said defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley on Monday. “But I was fired up. I love the guy. You win with guys like Bo.”
If you thought Bo Melton wasn't a roster lock, he was wearing a ball cap with his pads off on the sideline in the third quarter.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) August 10, 2025
Melton’s stock is definitely trending in the right direction. It’s time to lock it in: Bo Melton is making the team.
Stock Down: Karl Brooks
If Bo Melton is the most talked-about player at the Packers’ training camp, then Karl Brooks might be one of the least talked-about players. The third-year defensive tackle has had an underwhelming training camp thus far. He hasn’t been bad, per se, but he hasn’t been good either. He showed a few signs of life on Saturday evening. He was able to generate some pressure on the quarterback, albeit it was primarily against the Jets' second unit.
The Packers' defensive front was not good enough last season. The front office didn’t do much to address the position group over the offseason, in part because they are banking on their current players to step up. Kenny Clark and Devonte Wyatt should be the starters and log the most snaps, but after that, it’s very up in the air. Brooks was expected to be one of the main competitors to be the next man up.
Brooks showed promise as a rookie. Last season, he appeared to take a step back, and that was reflected in his poor PFF grade. Brooks' overall grade was 58.8; anything below 60.0 is considered below average. The Packers can’t afford for Brooks to take another step back this season. They need progression, not regression. It’s not time to sound the alarms yet. Brooks isn’t at risk of being cut, but his stock is dropping. The Packers need him to start performing much better than he has thus far. Saturday was a good start, but he still has work to do.
Stock Up: Chris Brooks
The stock of one Brooks has dropped, but the other Brooks’ stock is skyrocketing. Chris Brooks heads into his third NFL season, his second season with the Packers. Matt LaFleur, who can be stingy with his compliments, stated, “I think he’s really good. I think there’s nothing he can’t do. In terms of, obviously, as a runner, but certainly in the passing game as well. He’s a hell of a protector. He’s got good hands out of the backfield. Many times you see him running those choice routes out of the backfield, so I think there’s nothing he can’t do.”
At the start of his first full training camp with the Packers, Brooks was often viewed as fourth on the running back depth chart. Brooks has done an excellent job taking advantage of the increased reps with the offense. He’s frequently pointed out by the beat writers in attendance for good blitz pickups, quality runs, and catching passes out of the backfield. It’s also notable that he is a viable contributor on special teams.
With MarShawn Lloyd and Emmanuel Wilson missing time due to injury, Brooks has been thrust into a larger role, and he’s continued to help his cause. Lloyd or Wilson missed the Jets game due to injury, and Jacobs only played the first snap, so Chris Brooks effectively became the team’s top running back. He played all 11 of the 12 snaps with the first team offense and took all of the carries. While his performance wasn’t eye-popping, he didn’t play for very long. He rushed five times for seventeen yards. The Packers shut him down rather quickly.
Everyone in the building seems to have confidence in Brooks. “Since he’s been here, he’s been like a Swiss army knife,” Josh Jacobs said. “He can really do it all. Pass protect, run block, run the ball, catch. Whatever we ask him to do, he can do.”
LaFleur added another compliment in an interview with Kevin Clark: “Guys like Chris Brooks, who might not get the national attention. He’s a badass.” For anyone making a 53-man roster prediction, Chris Brooks’ name can be sharpied in.
Stock Down: Kadeem Telfort
There was a time last season when Kadeem Telfort was the first man off the bench for the offensive line. With Jordan Morgan missing a large chunk of the season due to injury, Telfort became the primary backup at both tackle and guard. Now in his third year with the Packers, Telfort is finding himself moving down the depth chart, not up.
Telfort’s start to camp hasn’t helped his cause. His performance in practice hasn’t exactly been stellar, and that’s against second- and third-string pass rushers. Wes Hodkiewicz of Packers.com noted on two separate occasions that Telfort struggled in one-on-one drills against rookies Barryn Sorrell and Warren Brinson. During Saturday’s preseason opener, Telfort didn’t play until the second half. He took over for Morgan at left tackle at the start of the third quarter. His performance was okay, but his play didn’t really move the needle.
Throughout training camp thus far, Telfort has worked primarily with the second and third offensive units. Zach Tom, Rasheed Walker, Jordan Morgan, and Anthony Belton have all been working ahead of Telfort at tackle. He’s not seeing much action at guard, either. Aaron Banks, Sean Rhyan, Donovan Jennings, and Jacob Monk have all been getting more work there. Oh, and how could anyone forget about Elgton Jenkins? That’s nine players all getting work ahead of Telfort.
So where does that leave Telfort now? Luckily for him, the Packers have kept at least ten offensive linemen on their initial 53-man roster for three years in a row. But there are at least nine guys ahead of him already. He also isn’t the youngest prospect anymore. He turns 27 later this season. If he doesn’t turn things around quickly, the Packers may look to find another developmental prospect to keep on the roster.
Stock Up: Jordan Morgan
The 2024 first-round pick is finally trending in the right direction. His rookie season started off on the wrong foot. Morgan came in and was immediately competing at both left tackle and right guard. Learn two different positions on different sides of the line? That’s no easy task. Morgan eventually settled into a rotation with Sean Rhyan at right guard before his season ended prematurely due to injury.
The 2025 season started similarly. Morgan began camp by taking snaps at left tackle, left guard, and right guard. The constant switching wasn’t allowing him to get comfortable at any one spot. But now that Rasheed Walker has missed some time due to injury, Morgan has taken all of the reps at left tackle, and he really settled in.
Morgan was one of the few positives that came from Saturday’s preseason game. He started at left tackle and played the entire first half against the Jets. Per PFF, Morgan didn’t allow a single pressure across 23 pass-blocking snaps. His footwork was good, and he held his own. Take a look at some of his pass block reps:
Squeaky clean night for Morgan https://t.co/1sVdSYPTyk pic.twitter.com/ZFdtDDGk8w
— Brandon Carwile (@BCarwile_NFL) August 10, 2025
The Packers used a premium pick on Morgan for a reason. They didn’t draft him to sit on the bench for several years. While it is still unknown what his 2025 outlook will be, he’s starting to show why the Packers drafted him. At this point, the best-case scenario for Morgan could be winning the left tackle position. At worst, he’s the primary backup at four of the offensive line spots. Either way, that’s an asset the Packers should be happy to have. Morgan’s performance over the last week has his stock soaring.
Stock Down: Jacob Monk
Prior to Saturday’s game, there was an argument that Monk fit into the “stock up” category. The second-year interior offensive lineman was getting a lot of work with the first unit when Jenkins wasn’t practicing. Throughout training camp, he has also been the primary backup for all three interior offensive line spots. Things seemed to be trending in the right direction for Monk. Unfortunately, that might’ve been fool's gold.
Monk entered Saturday’s game at the start of the third series. It was downhill from there. Long story short, Monk was called for three holding penalties and gave up a sack. He struggled all night, and he wasn’t even facing New York’s top units. Per Matt Schneidman of the Athletic, Monk said after the game, “I’ve just got to get better…I felt I haven’t done that at all in camp and gotten three holds like that in camp, maybe this whole camp. It showed up tonight, and it’s something that I’ve got to continue to work on.”
Down the stretch of the 2024 season, Monk was often a healthy inactive. The Packers clearly didn’t feel that he was ready to contribute then, and he’s showing he’s not ready to contribute now either. The Packers would really benefit from Monk stepping up and being the primary backup along the interior. It’s too early to write him off yet, but Saturday’s performance showed he still has a long way to go.
Stock Up: Barryn Sorrell
Sorrell’s stock started high on draft day, and it just continues to rise. The fourth-round pick out of Texas just continues to make plays, both in training camp and in game action. “He was one of the few positives on the night. He got better as the game went on,” Hafley said on Monday. “I thought Sorrell had some good pass rushes. He got a couple hits on the quarterback. He got better as the game went on. He made mistakes in the game, and in the same drive, he was correcting them…To me, that might be the most promising thing.”
Last week, Sorrell earned a “B+” in the Rookie Report Card. That grade might be even higher now. Packers.com’s Wes Hodkiewicz brought up Sorrell quite a few times over the last week for strong plays in practice. Hodkiewicz noted Sorrell’s “natural power and balance” was evident in one-on-one drills. He has shown to have multiple pass rush moves. He possesses speed, power, and good use of his hands. Sorrell wants to get to the quarterback, and it’s evident.
Positive: Barryn Sorrell wants to devour quarterbacks.
— Jersey Al - GBP (@JerseyAlGBP) August 10, 2025
With Sorrell continuing to stack strong performances, it wouldn’t be surprising to see him get more opportunities. He’s not going to log many snaps with the first-team defense as long as Lukas Van Ness and Rashan Gary are healthy, but he could work his way into getting more and more opportunities with the second unit. The Packers need as many pass rushers as they can get, and they seem to have found one in Sorrell.
Stock Down: Mecole Hardman
Up until Saturday, Hardman had been having a strong training camp. "He's made a splash play every day,” said LaFleur. “He's certainly a playmaker, and we know what type of player he can be as a returner." LaFleur also went on to emphasize consistency, but his performance on Saturday was the opposite of consistent. He didn’t make many plays, and the plays he did make only made seemed to benefit the Jets.
Hardman had a sequence where he had three really poor plays in a very short span. First, he fair caught a punt inside the five-yard line. The Packers eventually were strip-sacked, and the Jets scored a touchdown. In the next series, Hardman dropped an easy pass that led to the offense stalling out and having to punt. Then, on his next opportunity to field a punt, he biffed it. He let the punt drop, couldn’t field it cleanly, fumbled it, and the Jets ended up recovering. The second quarter was one to forget for Hardman.
Mecole Hardman muffs the punt & the Jets recover 😓
— GBP Daily - Rob Westerman lll (@GBPdaily) August 10, 2025
Per Schneidman, Hardman was asked about his poor punt return reps, and he explained, “Catch it inside the 5, try to make something happen. Could have made one man miss, but I didn’t, so that’s all on me.” When asked about the second rep, Hardman added, “Could have just let it bounce and let it do what it was going to do, but I feel like I was in a position to catch it and get some positive yards, and it didn’t roll my way.”
It’s important not to overreact to one preseason game, but the performance also can’t be ignored. “I’m hoping he was trying to make too big a play too early,” said special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia. “I’m expecting him to respond the right way.” The Packers can’t afford to roster a wide receiver who can’t catch a pass or a punt. “I made two bad decisions, so that’s all on me,” Hardman said. His training camp might’ve been decent up until Saturday, but Saturday was awful. If Hardman doesn’t bounce back, he might’ve cost himself a chance at making the team.
PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE.
__________________________
Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb.
__________________________




Comments (43)
T7Steve
August 11, 2025 at 10:15 am
Since MLF usually has them start the season slow, he decided to switch it up, and at the same time help out his buddy Justin Fields get his first win against the Packers when it doesn't count. They're buddies because Fields Let the Packers get a few season sweeps.
GregC
August 11, 2025 at 10:21 am
The only assessment here that I question is Karl Brooks. I haven't heard much about him in training camp, but you often don't hear much about DTs. The 58.8 PFF grade from last season doesn't scare me either. That's barely below average. Should we expect backups to be above average? I'm not sure how meaningful the PFF grade is anyway.
Coldworld
August 11, 2025 at 10:36 am
Wooden’s PFF was 48 by comparison. For me, there’s a chance it’s already Stackhouse behind Kenny and may well, once he’s healthy again, be Brinson behind Wyatt. That leaves a scrap between Brooks and Wooden. Which one will step up? Wooden did make more of a splash on Saturday, but is he really better than Brooks? Can he play the run as well so much lighter? Does versatility count more or ability to penetrate on passing downs? Do they think Brinson can be the versatile piece and Wooden thus brings more as an out and out penetrator? That’s what preseason is for.
nagawicka
August 11, 2025 at 06:56 pm
6
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 12:32 pm
I agree. Brooks, did not build off his rookie season adjusting to the 4-3 (has he ever played in a 4-3 extensively?).
Recalling his college resume, he was a DT who was moved to Edge. He was a terror for the opponent.
I think playing DT in a 3-4 was his calling card as a rookie. A big man who can rush with Edge experience.
Last year was a learning curve under Hafley. I think Brooks (a big man!), will settle in to DT in year 2.
Coldworld
August 11, 2025 at 10:27 am
Stock up: Amar Johnson. He’s clearly an option to take the role Lloyd is expected to if Lloyd can’t go. The biggest riser of the night. Golden deserves a mention, but his stocs already high, he did nothing to change that.
Can Johnson protect? If he can he’s a guy who might actually be an ideal 3rd down back and a threat in a way Brooks doesn’t have the physical gifts to be. Winning coaches jump on such potential and find out if they can get difference makers out there. The margin is so slim in this league. Others go with safe and reliable.
Stock down: Matt LaFleur. Sorry, that was pathetic preparation and focus which led to the dreadful overall performance and subsequent admission of such by LaFleur. Unfortunately, mea culpas don’t wash when the same ones recur season after season. It’s McCarthy’s pad level LaFleur style and just as unyielding.
Stock further down: Stenavich. Let’s face it, the mindset may be LaFleur, but the details are the OC. They were almost entirely lacking. In addition, he was calling plays. Yes it was vanilla, but for a guy wanting to take the next step, that was not likely to impress.
If Stenavich is down the Butkus’ is plunging. Different players, same issues of coherence and consistency. Yet again a neophyte thrust into action and looking completely unready (think Glover last year). At some point it becomes obvious there are issues with a coach through patterns of recurring problems across varied personnel. Butkus is well past that point and still here.
GregC
August 11, 2025 at 10:52 am
I think of preseason games mostly as opportunities to evaluate players. I don't think there is much to be learned about the motivational and strategic skills of the coaches.
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 11:58 am
If you are an effective coach, I think you must be motivating, managing, improving your direct reports at every work encounter. Strategy and tactics to meet practice and performance goals need to be ongoing.
Probably a bit tardy waiting to evaluate the motivational and strategic skills of your coaches until the regular season kicks into full swing.
There has been much change on the D side coaching staff for the Packers. O and STs, very little.
GregC
August 11, 2025 at 01:14 pm
It's hard to judge the strategic skills of the coaches when they are only using a fraction of the playbook. They don't want to give the rest of the league a jump start in figuring out their tendencies. As for motivation, everyone knows that the outcome of preseason games has no bearing on playoff position. A coach probably doesn't want to pump his team up for the game in the same way he would for the regular season. He wants them to go out there and have a good practice session. I'm disappointed that the Packers had a rather poor practice session on Saturday night. I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 02:11 pm
There is more to coaching beyond the playbook!
I think it is a big deal the team was not prepared to play an NFL game. You can call it a practice...but if they practice the way they played an actual game on Saturday, the coaches have a lot of work to do because the preparation...the key to success...sucked.
Cheezehead72
August 11, 2025 at 12:02 pm
I agree that preseason is for evaluating players and yes sometimes you put them in situations or call plays to evaluate them over winning the game but watching the first half this team is not ready. Being that there were so many issues all over the place I tend to blame the coaching. Sometimes I wonder if MLF has what it takes to be a head coach yes I have given him credit before. This coaching staff has to do whatever they can to get this team ready in three weeks.
If I were HC right after that showing by the 1st string players I would have said that being as they played so poorly they will be playing next week. MLF has to start calling it like it is. He needs to blame himself, the coaches, and the team for the bad performance. If anyone takes exception to that get rid of them.
murf7777
August 11, 2025 at 12:47 pm
I agree with you Greg...Too much gets made of these games. Was it a snooze fest, YES. Was I disappointed with some players, absolutely. BUT, Coaches are playing vanilla and basically evaluating players. If they don't play very good, they are cut, there's certainly motivation out there.
If you go with the logic of some on this site you would think Detriot needs a new coach as well. They were beaten worse in their first game and have scored 24 points in two games.
For those who think Mlf is soft or not demanding probably haven't watched him closely. He can be very demanding and to the point. You have to keep in mind this is the beginning of pre-season with one of the youngest teams in the NFL. There is almost a month of games and practice left. I'm confident he'll have them ready to go.
TarynsEyes
August 11, 2025 at 10:29 am
"Saturday’s game was a good test for many young players, but it’s important not to overreact to one performance".
Yes, there is a candle shining on the path, a fragile candle nonetheless, made abundantly clear, that needs a lot of nurturing, or more than many would admit, and forget just as fast with the next game, unfortunately
It's only preseason, but the clock to get it together and right is ticking, and time waits for no one, nor will the Lions.
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 12:22 pm
Yeah, when you produce 1/2 the yards and control only 1/3rd of the clock vs your opponent, in the NFL that is defined as a thrashing.
On O and STs, geez.
D? The 1's limited snaps were not impressive. The 2's? Some good plays actually...they did not get gashed, worked hard to hold serve... even as they had to keep re-taking the field after another Packer O's 3 and out.
The D had to defend the game for 40 minutes. Hafley's coaches deserve some accolades as LaFleur's staff did not have a good day.
I think the D light is more than a candle...more like a thick, blazing torch.
dblbogey
August 11, 2025 at 11:14 am
We gave a $77 million contract to guard Aaron Banks. He's now the 6th highest paid guard in the league. His performance to date has been that of a slightly above average guard. I'll never understand that signing. If he was a top 10 type guard, fine, but he isn't. It seems we could have used that money in a better way. I hope to be proven wrong.
murf7777
August 11, 2025 at 12:59 pm
If you watch Mike Wahle's podcast on Banks he will shed a totally different light onto the subject.
Strat
August 11, 2025 at 02:30 pm
He was never worth that much...only here.
splitpea1
August 11, 2025 at 11:20 am
My little additions:
Stock down: Pass rush. Okay, Sorrell had a couple of QB hits, but the overall unit didn't record any sacks, and the trio of Jets QBs had a fine day.
Stock up: Welch. He recorded plenty of tackles and had a nice one on special teams. I hope he makes the roster, as to me he is the definition of a "football player" that we could use more of.
Stock up, Jets: Tufele. He's on his third team in five years and maybe anyone can look great in preseason, but he had an impactful game. I wanted the Packers to draft him back then, but no, he was selected in between Amari Rodgers and Royce Newman. Sigh....
Starrbrite
August 11, 2025 at 02:53 pm
I like Welch—thot we should have kept him last year.
splitpea1
August 11, 2025 at 03:13 pm
He may not have a high ceiling or anything like that, but he's a proven special teams player (and still only 27) with a lot of experience. So if you want to improve this unit, this would be a good place to start. I sure would prefer keeping him over some newbie who hasn't shown anything at all to this point.
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 11:47 am
Good list and analysis.
Morgan showed his talent on Saturday. He is an athletic big man who may not stop his opponent cold every snap, but he has great recovery tools with balance, leverage, quick feet and more than enough strength to steer his rusher out of the play to win that snap. He's a tough out.
The few plays watching Belton had me smiling. I can see him as an Abrams Tank at G. Held his own at T too. Was surprised at the quick feet of the largest Packer on the roster.. I am buying Belton stock too. The more I see the more I like.
EricTorkelson
August 12, 2025 at 08:06 am
I didn't see to many pass plays were Morgan didn't stop his pass rusher cold? Lambeau. If you watch the sample film above you can see the physicality of Morgan, Belton they can stand up there pass rushers and stop them cold. You did not see that last year what you saw was Love consistently getting moved of his spot and adjusting his throws. That also was happening when Tom was starting at right tackle vs Jets.
Lphill
August 11, 2025 at 11:51 am
Melton targeted twice gave up 2 receptions, how is that a positive?
GregC
August 11, 2025 at 12:00 pm
Because he wasn't targeted on his 10 other coverage snaps. QBs usually don't throw to receivers who are covered.
I would like to see replays of those two completions though. Were they actually Melton's fault, or was he just the closest player when the zone coverage got beaten? I don't remember either one of them.
LambeauPlain
August 11, 2025 at 12:05 pm
Taken in isolation, a negative...yet his body of work since the switch have his coaches smiling. So far an amazing display of an athletic player who has the work ethic and determination to succeed at one of the most challenging positions in football...probably right behind TE.
Cheezehead72
August 11, 2025 at 12:04 pm
Maybe they need to train Doubs to be a CB being as he refuses to catch the ball.
NFLfan
August 11, 2025 at 12:30 pm
Doubs has been one of the most reliable.
Cheezehead72
August 11, 2025 at 12:42 pm
Doubs has been up and down in catching the ball. He is in the 26th percentile. He must do better.
NFLfan
August 11, 2025 at 12:29 pm
I would say that a coach like Aaron Glenn could discipline and level-up many of these players.
The problem is the lax GB offensive coaching:
Stenavich, Butkus, Mahaffey, & MLF.
Cheezehead72
August 11, 2025 at 12:35 pm
During the game to keep me from coming unglued I got to thinking of nonsense. Oh I am very good at doing that.
I got to thinking what WR was the first WR to wear a number in the teens after the NFL instituted the numbering system?
Answer in my reply.
Cheezehead72
August 11, 2025 at 12:39 pm
The NFL imposed the numbering system in 1973. Charlie Joiner was allowed to continue wearing 18 under the new system. A couple of interesting things is he played 18 years in the NFL. He also wore #40 with the Houston Oilers.
I miss the old numbering system.
GregC
August 11, 2025 at 02:19 pm
Has the numbering system officially changed in recent years, or are they just allowing more exceptions? It seems that any player can wear a single digit these days. I hope Bo Melton switches to a real DB number if he makes the team. I don't mind Matthew Golden's #22 though. It makes him look faster.
WD
August 11, 2025 at 01:31 pm
Amar Johnson's stock skyrocketed. No one had even heard of Johnson before. I would like to see if he can catch passes. He sure can run. May be the most explosive RB on the team
No essential change in anyone else. It is of course early.
The only WR I was excited about was Golden. I have a very low tolerance for receivers who drop passes.
Starrbrite
August 11, 2025 at 02:59 pm
I was aware of Johnson because I’m a a North Dakota State Bison fan. Johnson, Tucker Kraft, and others, always gave NDSU trouble.
But last season we beat’em in the national championship.
Guam
August 11, 2025 at 01:45 pm
Hardman's mea culpa's are not encouraging. This guy is a vested vet and should know better: (1) you don't field a punt inside your own 10 yard line - let it go and hopefully get the touchback; and (2) never let the ball hit the ground and then try to field it - almost a guaranteed turnover. Both were bonehead plays and he should certainly know better. He hurt his chances of making the 53 Saturday night.
Encouraged by the performance of both Morgan and Belton. Neither one was perfect, but the other guys get paid too. It looks like OL#6 and OL#7 will be solid this season. Still searching for OL#8 and OL#9.
Bitternotsour
August 11, 2025 at 02:46 pm
I sorta disagree with that sentiment. I liked his response, it's preseason, he was attempting to entertain. So what that first punt pinned them at the 5. Is that not a situation we'll see in the season? Does it not encourage LaFleur to sharpen his play calling?
I'm of the mind that there's no particular sense in not going for everything in the preseason. who cares if you get beaten as long as you sharpen your players in the process.
My main disappointment was the drops. That can't happen. It would also have been nice if the blocking was better executed.
Guam
August 11, 2025 at 03:48 pm
If he had the coaches permission to do that I would be okay with it. However from Bisaccia's comment he did not seek or have that permission. When you are trying to make the team, you follow the rules and show the coaches you have good judgement. He failed in that endeavor by trying to "make plays" that weren't there.
I have always understood (in fact had it pounded through my thick skull in high school football) that there are three rules to returning punts: (1) never catch a ball inside your own 10 yard line - let it go and hope for a touchback; (2) Any punt outside your 10 yard line should never be allowed to hit the field (i.e. catch it) because bad things happen when a punt hits the ground; and (3) If the punt does hit the ground, stay the hell away from it and never try to field it - footballs are oblong things that bounce in crazy directions and are a turnover waiting to happen.
Hardman violated all three rules on two punts in the first quarter. Not a way to impress the coaches with your veteran judgement.
Bitternotsour
August 11, 2025 at 07:56 pm
solid points. he can't go solo if it isn't the way they're playing. Despite my approval.
Strat
August 11, 2025 at 02:39 pm
"Welp"...yeah, they got welped alright. Preseason game, but wouldn't surprise me to see the just as bad sequel in regular season game one.
"I've got to be better, they have to be better, we all have to be better." There, that should fix it.
crayzpackfan
August 11, 2025 at 03:53 pm
"I've got to be better, they have to be better, we all have to be better." There, that should fix it.
His post game loss press conferences make me wanna kick a puppy (I'm a dog owner and have never kicked my dog or any other, so chill). The GB press also annoy me for not asking him tough questions while letting him off the hook from his canned post game answers. Do your jobs.
Though it's just preseason for the team, MLF is in full regular season form with his tired quotes and answers. So, there's that I guess.
NFLfan
August 11, 2025 at 06:09 pm
Unfortunately, Green Bay is a small town. My guess is the local press soft-balls LaFleur and co. in order to maintain access. I long for more balanced reporting too.
EricTorkelson
August 12, 2025 at 08:22 am
One thousand percent agree, with you NFLfan especially at M Lafleurs press conferences, softball questions galore you can see MLF stare them down ( don't piss me off now ). And what happened to Jason Wildes spine when did he become king of the slow-pitch
Snap the ball
August 11, 2025 at 11:40 pm
Stock down Banks at left guard