Packers Practice Roundup: August 10, 2022

 

GENERAL/PERSONNEL:

So full list of practice roster updates: New injuries Cobb (foot) Dafney (knee) Wyatt (possible concussion). Released Wirtel, O. Mitchell. Added Dexter Williams  Herman  [Osirus Mitchell was waived with an injury designation (quad).  Mitchell looked pretty interesting but injury at the wrong time can derail a prospects chances.  An injury settlement is probably forthcoming.  Cap melt continues, though it sounds like it will be minor.  TGR]

If I had to guess, I think this is a meeting with LaFleur and the vets who will be off on Friday night. Group includes: Dillon Jones Clark Watkins Campbell Stokes Lowry Reed Lewis Amos Jaire Cobb Preston Gary Rodgers Lazard, (and Douglas).  Herman  [So, Love will have the entire starting offensive line, but none of his top 3 wideouts (Lazard, Watkins, and Cobb - but he will have Doubs, so nothing more need be said) and also he will be without his starting running backs.  On defense, the presumed starters on the line and at OLB will be out.  The ILB will be without Devondre Campbell, so fans should see Quay Walker, Wilborn and Barnes, amongst others.  Savage won't play due to injury and Amos will be held out.]

After another winning day by the Packers' D, Aaron Rodgers was asked when the offense is going to turn the tables. He said: "I don't know if we're going to."   Demovsky  

Bears K Cairo Santos detailing how terrible the Soldier Field turf was yesterday for Family Fest is something he's become used to. Makes a point to work on rough fields in the offseason to help prepare himself.  Kaitlin Sharkey - retweeted by Aaron Nagler, who can't imagine why the Bears want to move.

 

QUARTERBACKS/WIDE RECEIVERS:

Two-minute drill for the 1s. Checkdown Jones Incomplete to Doubs Screen Jones that Reed is all over Vernon Scott pick on a deep shot to Watkins.  Herman  [This is with AR at quarterback.  TGR]

Alexander falls down, Lazard beats him deep and Rodgers is on the money.  Spofford

Aaron Rodgers strikes back with the next play, hitting Allen Lazard deep down the right side against Jaire Alexander. Lazard ran a stutter-and-go, and got wide open when Alexander slipped. Almost never see that from the Pro Bowl corner.  Wood  [Same as the Spofford tweet.  So, did Jaire just slip or did he slip due to the stutter and go?  IDK.  TGR]

Nice block by Lazard to spring Watkins on a quick smoke screen.  2) Jordan Love tries to get greedy with a throw downfield on a bootleg. Should have taken the flat route. Instead ball is picked by a leaping Shawn Davis.  Herman  [I don't know, it's an INT but I like Love pushing boundaries.  Lazard's block was on Rasul Douglas.  TGR]

Jordan Love might’ve learned a thing from Aaron Rodgers. He just rolled left to buy time with a free play, and got a deep shot to RB Tyler Goodson in the end zone. Something we wouldn’t have seen him do past couple seasons.  Wood  [This play is also in the RB section, but this is an interesting take.  TGR]

In that two minute session with Love at QB, Love hit Toure for a nice gain, but Toure lateraled, leading to a fumble which was recovered by the offense.  A coach lectured Toure afterwards.  Then Love hit Goodson though per Huber Goodson admitted it might have been OPI.  You can read Bill Huber's article here.  It is good.  TGR

Sammy Watkins beat Eric Stokes down the left side, but Aaron Rodgers missed him. Vernon Scott picks it and gets both get in bounds, an impressive play. Backup safeties having a good day.  Wood  [So, Watkins shows up a little.  TGR]

Fake end around works well as Rodgers finds a leaping Juwann Winfree for a nice completion. Shawn Davis in coverage. Rodgers had high praise for Winfree yesterday.  Herman 

Phenomenal grab by Winfree on a high heater from Rodgers roughly 25 yards downfield during team. Winfree is having another strong camp.  Nagler

Doubs: Nothing to report!

 

RUNNING BACKS:

Tyler Goodson with a 23-yard TD from Love in 2-minute. Going for 2 and win, Baylor runs it in.  Herman  [I could have put this under QB.]

It’s an idea (Jones and Dillon on the field more together) Jones said he and Dillon have lobbied for with Matt LaFleur, and not just recently.  Wood

Tyler Goodson has some of the best open field moves on the team. Just put a nasty shake and cut on Shemar. Shemar may have still made the play if there was tackling but it was a sick move nonetheless.  Herman  [I saw that ability to cut at practice, along with some pretty good burst out of the cut.  TGR]

Patrick Taylor had a drop.  Huber

Brian Gutekunst says the ability to elevate PS players during the season gives him more flexibility to keep the best 53 players regardless of position, rather than feeling a need to get an exact number of players at certain position.  Wood  [One scenario I first heard from Andy Herman would be to keep just Dillon and Jones on the 53 at cutdowns (if Kylin Hill isn't ready) and slide a couple of Patrick Taylor, Goodson, and/or Baylor onto the practice squad.  Since the team can elevate PS players three times each, that would allow Hill to start the season on PUP while those three RBs provide backup coverage for 6 to 8 weeks.  It is doable.  It will cost something to continually elevate PS guys, and it may develop that the Packers will need to elevate PS guys at different positions due to injuries and the like.  Of coursed, they could just keep Taylor as the third back.  TGR]

 

TIGHT ENDS:

Couple nice completions from Rodgers to Deguara.  Herman  [Deguara is quietly having a very good camp.  TGR]

Marcedes Lewis blocks Preston to spring Aaron Jones for a nice run.  Huber

 

OFFENSIVE LINE:

Great pass pro by Josh Myers on Kenny Clark.  2) Rashan Gary just went right through Royce Newman. No resistance, pure power from 52. Better from Newman on the next rep but coverage forces 12 to scramble.  3) Packers o-line is feisty this morning. Jones, Dillon and Taylor all with nice runs up the middle. Offense starting strong today.  4)  Zach Tom back in at RT now with Newman at RG and line opens another big hole this time for Dillon.  5) Offensive line must have heard all the talk about the dl. Really nice blocking to spring Jones for a big run up the middle on the first play.  6) Another day of Yosh - JRJ - Myers - Hanson - Newman  Herman  [Myers starting to get positive mentions regularly, and against ones.  Looks like Newman was at RT against Gary, but it's not entirely clear.  OL started Hanson/Newman but Tom was inserted at RT and Newman moved to RG.  Was there another change?  TGR]

Zach Tom in at RT with Royce Newman kicked inside to RG after only a few snaps with the 1s.  Wood  

Aaron Rodgers’ hard count draws a free play with an offside from the defense. Play ends in a deep-shot incompletion, but Rodgers slaps fives with Yosh Nijman and Jake Hanson for holding their ground. Good moment for a struggling offensive line.  Wood

Packers GM Brian Gutekunst wouldn’t say whether David Bakhtiari and/or Elgton Jenkins would remain on PUP to start the season (and therefore miss the first four games) but said: “They’re both doing really well, both have a shot to play early in the season.”  Demovsky

Brian Gutekunst says it would be "ideal" for David Bakhtiari to return in camp to be ready for Week 1 in Minnesota, but not necessary. He IS NOT resigned to Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins starting the season on PUP. Still, both will need a "ramp-up period" to be ready to play.  Wood

Caleb Jones in at left tackle with the twos.  Hodkiewicz

 

DEFENSIVE LINE:

Two mammoth men doing battle. Caleb Jones vs Jonathan Ford. Ford wins this round and sheds the power block from Jones to make the stop at the line. Fun battle and big play by Ford.  2)  Nice job by Caleb Jones handling a pretty nice spin move by Enagbare. Herman

Heflin doesn't let Dillon get out for a screen, thereby blowing up the play, and AR has to throw it away.  Huber [Heflin has been good against the run while playing with the twos.  He doesn't get mentioned because the twos tend to play on the south end of the field, far from where the media is seated.  TGR

 

LINEBACKERS:

Meanwhile De’Vondre Campbell runs stride for stride down the field with Josiah Deguara and bats away the ball on a deep wheel. Big time lb play by 59.  Herman

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS:

Jordan Love tries to split double coverage between Shawn Davis and Kiondre Thomas while rolling right, but can’t get his pass over Davis. His first pick of the day. A flag down in defensive backfield though.  Wood

Young safeties showing out today. Two picks for Shawn Davis and one for Vernon Scott.  Davis picked Love and Rodgers. Needs to pick Etling to complete the set. 2) SJC shuts down Amari on a deep out. And then SJC shuts down Hyman on a deep out.  2) Now Rodgers fires high for Doubs and it’s picked by Shawn Davis. His second pick of the day already.  3)  Absolute blanket coverage from Stokes on Winfree on a deep ball. Would have liked to see Stokes get his head turned sooner but there was no separation.  Herman  [Time to show, today and on Friday.  That said, the interceptions sounded more like errant throws than great plays by the safeties, though Scott getting his feet down drew a specific comment.  And Schneidman below notes otherwise.  TGR]

Strong showings today by safeties fighting for third spot. Vernon Scott just picked off Rodgers to end two-minute drill. Great read by Scott to come over on go ball down left sideline for Watkins thrown too far. Davis picked off Rodgers on deflection off Doubs’ hands over middle.  Schneidman

Brian Gutekunst on Rico Gafford: "We really like the athlete. ...In his limited opportunities in the NFL, he's been a good (special) teams player."  Hodkiewicz  [That's a weird way to phrase it: how do the Packers like the football player?  TGR]

Huber thinks that against SF, Gafford and Jean-Charles will start on the perimeter with Nixon in the slot.  He doesn't mention Ento, Kiondre Thomas or Vaughn, but fans will see them later.  TGR

 

SPECIAL TEAMS:

The Packers released LS Steven Wirtel, best remembered for being in the middle of the blocked punt vs. SF in last year’s playoffs. Their search for a consistent LS continues.  Wood

Interestingly, final cuts won't bolster the long snapper market too much. Only three teams have two snappers.  Huber

Amari looks so much better returning punts in camp this year. Confident. Decisive. Getting up field and finding good return lanes. Competition between him and Doubs could come down to the end at PR.  Herman

O’Donnell is punting them the width of the field and, perhaps after some prodding from Tonyan, kicks one out of Nitschke Field into the parking lot. Big cheer.  Nagler

When asked by Aaron Nagler whether working out all the specialists was for his emergency list or to make a change (presumably at long snapper), GM Brian Gutekunst said: "A little bit of both."

 

 

 

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Coldworld's picture

August 10, 2022 at 11:33 pm

Winfree looks like he had the best day on O? Watkins getting involved is good. Good to see some competition among the back up safeties. The Scott play at least sounds like a good piece of recognition, which would be great.

Goodson would be a nice piece. He might be the best natural catcher I’ve seen in a back, but as a running back it will be interesting to see if he can handle protection. So far he’s not shown much of anything as a pass protector. Could he not just be a slot receiver? Fast, can take a few handoffs and catch like a WR.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 11, 2022 at 12:49 am

There are a lot of questions about his physicality and taking NFL hits. Can you keep a RB on the roster to occasionally play in the slot? Without being a STs component it's kind of doubtful but maybe if the team is a top passing attack that wants to stress defenses with speed.

I always remember what Landry told Parcells about the draft, you have to have set ranges when it comes to players at each position. When you make exceptions for those ranges you end up with a team full of exceptions. I think it's probably a little looser in the modern NFL when you have more players playing "tweener" spots like dime LB and move TEs etc. Do you keep a RB that can't block so you can play him in the slot or just keep a slot receiver? I guess it depends on how willing the coach is to scheme for individual players. I think coaches should be more willing to stray from their ideal O or D to fit their players, Belichick is an expert on this on defense and is willing to keep guys in the roster that might only play big snaps against 3 or 4 teams in a season. Trubisky is a broken QB because his coach adjusted his scheme to fit him as a rookie and then tried to fit a square peg into a round hole after that.

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Coldworld's picture

August 11, 2022 at 08:00 am

That’s why I mentioned it. He can run, has great hands but doesn’t seem to be a good bet for the other things a RB must do, especially with an older star like Rodgers at QB. For all the receiving acumen and splash runs, I just can’t see him as a true RB in this team. As an option type maybe or even a full time slot/option prospect. He’s the type people get high on, but I don’t see it at RB when he can’t protect.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 11, 2022 at 01:38 am

Goodson is interesting. At practice I watched him cut and was genuinely impressed. I thought he then showed enough burst to turn the corner. You mentioned his pass catching ability. Goodson seems like an ideal backup for Aaron Jones. Patrick Taylor can backup Dillon. I just read his scouting reports. Zirlein didn't like him as much as Crabbs at the draftnetwork liked him. They agreed on some things but Zirlein didn't like Goodson's vision and thought he had happy feet sometimes. IDK.

I haven't learned much about Baylor other than he can pick up blitzers in pass pro. Need more than that from a back. Goodson can cut, and has some burst. IDK about his vision and Zirlein and Crabbs essentially disagreed. Both said he ain't gonna get you the yard on his own. Goodson can catch. Can he block? IDK, but two out of three ain't bad. His 4.42 forty, 6.76 three cone, and 1.51 10 yard dash and 4.12 shuttle are excellent. Kid can move. He's an athlete. Just need to know if he is a football player.

If the Packers need a roster spot, I think Goodson and Baylor both make the PS easily. I think Patrick Taylor would as well. Then elevate them as needed until Hill is recovered. Now that a player can be elevated three times without having to pass through waivers, it might be a strategy that can be employed at RB, WR, S.

https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1510965418705534981/photo/1

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Coldworld's picture

August 11, 2022 at 08:07 am

My view on RB is that if a power back is part of your game, it’s wise to have depth active. As to Hill, I think we are possibly fooling ourselves if we expect him to be his old self this season once off the PUP. ACLs typically have a lingering impact on high end agility/mobility, which is crucial to his game. Goodson might be a better option this year. If I recall correctly, Hill is an adequate protector at best, but is Goodson even that, sufficient to get snaps?

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Swisch's picture

August 11, 2022 at 12:43 pm

It genuinely pains me to say it, but it seems there's too much talent in training camp to keep Randall Cobb for the regular season.
If he's injured long term (and I hope he's not), then the dilemma is perhaps solved, as Cobb can be kept around on an injured list, thus becoming in effect an extra coach and a positive presence on the sidelines.
I love Cobb, but it seems his time is long past. I'm glad to be wrong.
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How stubborn is Aaron Rodgers about keeping Cobb on the team, even if a talented player is pushed down to the practice squad, or even lost to another team?
Couldn't Goodson be claimed by another team if he doesn't make the first roster of 53 this season, perhaps by the Bears? Gulp!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 12, 2022 at 09:14 am

Goodson sounds like a keeper, particularly with Hill injured, but also with Jones contract next year. Looking forward to seeing him play. The slot WR position is an intriguing thought.

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Rarescope's picture

August 10, 2022 at 11:39 pm

Oh man we must be getting close, this is starting to sound like football!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 11, 2022 at 01:05 am

Hey TGR, I know we "chatted" about 10 yard splits before the draft this year so I thought you might enjoy this. It's damn impressive, especially considering he's not a smurf. If accurate he's more than a tenth of a second faster in the 10 yard split than Kalon Barnes, who ran a 4.23 40 this year. Watson ran a 1.45 for comparison. I linked a top plays clip of him on Acme, those numbers might be fibs but he can definitely separate and also had some nice contested catches. The jump in QB talent could propel him to a monster season.

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1557380471843131392?t=JBOyv3ZW...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 11, 2022 at 02:58 am

I found this photo of Vernon Scott and Shawn Davis (with Rasul Douglas - #29). I used it because they each had a good day in camp. I am not sanguine about the third safety who might actually have to play snaps on defense. They have to be better than Henry Black, right? Right??

Watkins did a little in practice. He apparently is being held out of the Friday Preseason Game against SF. Sounds like he is part of the plan.

Happy to now have read multiple positive reports on Josh Myers. I was crushed when Gute selected Myers over Creed Humphry, but here's hoping Myers can cash Gute's bet.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 11, 2022 at 03:15 am

I'd still like to know the reasoning behind Myers over Humphrey but sounds like he's had some battles with Clark and won a few. I guess they've spent some time after practice going over what works and what hasn't. Always like to hear these young guys are taking the extra step to improve. Rodgers talking to Douglas about the young WRs and if they're tipping their routes is in the same vein.

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DoubleJ's picture

August 11, 2022 at 07:37 am

Before he got injured Myers was doing pretty well. I think one thing the Packers liked about Myers is that he was a team captain. Another thing is historically OSU and B1G linemen in general do pretty well in the NFL. Also don't forget that it was 1 year. Will Humphrey keep doing well or will he regress.

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T7Steve's picture

August 11, 2022 at 07:16 am

Talk about vanilla in the preseason. The Packers need to play vanilla all season and win by execution and team work. Break out the playbook for the playoffs like the best teams do. In the past it seems they have nothing left by then.

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Roadrunner23's picture

August 11, 2022 at 08:03 am

Thanks TGR!

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Pantz_Burp's picture

August 11, 2022 at 11:09 am

Time to find that delicious chili recipe...the nights are getting cooler. Man, I love fall... can't even get in a bad mood, even if ya try. (not pushing summer aside, but getting sick of wearing my Speedo while mowing the front lawn). Neighborhood elderly just love it when I bend down to inspect a budding thistle or admire an insect on a hardy dandelion....

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Since'61's picture

August 11, 2022 at 11:11 am

Thanks again TGR, another great job! Good to read that MLF is keeping the key players out of the first preseason game.

It will also be good to see Love play behind the starting OL. It will provide at least a glimpse into how much progress he is making during this preseason.

Is there any update on the status of Mason Crosby? Maybe I've missed it but I don't I have seen anything about him practicing yet.

Hoping that the new injuries are minor. Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 11, 2022 at 07:29 pm

Crosby was seen and video taped kicking soccer balls. How much difference is there is there between a football and a soccer ball? His motion was similar.

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Since'61's picture

August 12, 2022 at 08:53 am

TGR I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I hope that Crosby can be ready for the beginning of the season.
Keep up the great work. Stay safe. Thanks, Since '61

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Swisch's picture

August 12, 2022 at 09:06 am

TGR, thanks much for taking us from the first day of training camp to the verge of the first preseason game.
It would be difficult in any season for me to make it up from north of Atlanta to Green Bay -- although if I knew there was a possibility of getting a football punted into the parking lot, I may reconsider ;-).
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I like the report of a fake end around, and a successful one at that. I hope there are lots of motions and misdirections in the Packers offense this season to create that illusion of complexity so long awaited by fans.
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Rooting for Amari to prove the doubters wrong as a receiver and punt returner, plus hoping Dexter Williams shows well as a comeback story.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 12, 2022 at 09:19 am

At one time I believed Dexter had Aaron Jones talent. You would see flashes! Not anymore though. He is simply a camp body.

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