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Packers Mock Draft Monday 2.0

Packers Mock Draft Monday 2.0

Ross will provide a semi-weekly roundup of national mock drafts relating to the Packers picks.  He'll also utilize Fanspeak's software to do a few mock drafts of his own.  In 2019 the Packers will pick six times in the first four rounds, so those are the rounds that we will focus on.

This Fanspeak mock uses Matt Miller (Bleacher Report)'s board and the difficult setting/algorithm.

While I don't look ahead at the board and cheat, I was flabbergasted to see Miller so low on Dalton Risner (116).  I obviously could have waited beyond 44 to take him, but I took Risner the latest I could possibly imagine he'd be available.  He's such a good player.  Hockenson was unavailable when I took Fant, but either could really revolutionize the offense.  I'm not a huge propoenent of taking ILB high, but taking Dakota Allen to fill in for Jake Ryan there is a no brainer.  He's seen plenty of spread offense in the Big 12 and he was a dominant player.  Dakota is today's linebacker.  Jaquan Johnson is a guy I truly believe can play free safety, and that carries a ton of value.  Might fall a little too far and kick in an Eddie Jackson-type scenario.

Roundup:

Benjamin Solak - The Draft Network - Jachai Polite, Fant, and Christian Miller - anyone who follows me understands just how much I love the idea of doubling up at EDGE in the first 44 picks.  The study I did for Cheesehead TV last year shows that no position has a lower success rate as the rounds go on than EDGE.  If you want to get guys that can play get them early, and Solak does.

James Siebers - DraftTek - Rashan Gary, AJ Brown, Brian Burns, CJ Conrad, Cameron Smith, Myles Gaskin - Ultimately I would be fine with this draft.  I'd be pretty upset if they took a non-twitch guy like Gary at 12 and AJ Brown is a luxury pick but Brian Burns is one of my top 5 EDGE and Myles Gaskin would be a steal and a great complement to Aaron Jones.  This would be the type of B to B+ draft that you actually expect, unlike the ones that you want.  Certainly leaves the OL bare, though.

Ryan Wilson - CBS Sports - Polite and Josh Jacobs - throw this one in the trash. 

Dan Kadar - SB Nation - Polite and Fant - It's a popular theory.  Doesn't mean it's not a great one.  If that's how Thursday ends, do backflips, folks.

Walter Football - Clelin Ferrel, Jonathan Abram, Jerry Tillery, Chase Winovich, Logan Parker, David Long- I dont' know what I think about this one, either.  I like that they added two edges, though neither are the twitchy type, which will always bug me.  Tillery is a smart Mo-Wilk replacement.  The Abram pick is not a good one.  Abram is pretty stiff and profiles as a box safety.  That means no first round pick from me.  

Ben Standig - NBC Sports - Deionte Thompson, N'Keal Harry - burn it with fire 

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Ross Uglem is a staff writer for Cheesehead TV. He can be found on Twitter @RossUglem 

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Handsback's picture

I like Polite and Allen, I just think this draft is going to be all about BPA. Green Bay has so many positions to fill and wouldn't surprise me if they trade out of one of their 1st round picks for more in the 2nd and third rounds.

Rak47's picture

I could see a team trying to jump back into the first RD to grab someone they really like. Hopefully the Raiders come calling with a second and third round pick. Both of which would be in the top 3 of each round.

dobber's picture

Teams trying to get a player with a 5th year option could be enticing...

Ross Uglem's picture

especially QBs. And there are definitely QBs that profile as late round 1 guys like Lamar Jackson

The TKstinator's picture

@Rak; Don’t the Raiders already have 3 first round picks?

Demon's picture

Handsback That worked out so well for us when "the sizzler" traded back to get us Kevin ( I cant stay off the trainers table ) King and passed up Watt.

dblbogey's picture

Let's see in 2-3 years. Watt had impressive sack numbers but so did Fackrell. And like Fackrell, Watt was otherwise pretty average overall. King is very talented. We'll see if he stays healthier or really is injury prone. Time will tell. I sure hope a pass rusher is there at #12 without it being a reach.

Rak47's picture

"Deionte Thompson, N'Keal Harry - burn it with fire"
Lmao, unfortunately for my monitor I was drinking Pepsi when this happened. Sigh!

lebowski's picture

Not sure I understand, safety is one of our biggest needs, and I've seen a bunch of mocks with N'Keal going in the first round prior to 32. I know we need edge and OL, but this doesn't seem terrible to me.

Ross Uglem's picture

Thompson is not a first round talent. Definitely not a top 12 talent. Go watch the two playoff games Bama played in.

N'Keal ain't it either. Doesn't separate. Wins contested catches. Want to know what happens to WR's that can't separate int he NFL? Treadwell, Laquon.

rtuck80's picture

Who are the twitchy Edge players this year?

Ross Uglem's picture

the guys that are really twitched up are Polite, Allen and Burns. D'Andre Walker has nice bend for a guy who won't be a first rounder.

Swisch's picture

If edge rushers are so valuable and so rare, would it be a good idea to take two?
It increases our chances that at least one of them excels, and it wouldn't seem such a bad thing to have two great ones.

Ross Uglem's picture

I would love to take two EDGE guys int he firs three picks (12, Saints, 44). I don't know if they'll do it but I'd be geeked.

Minniman's picture

Ross, doubling down at positions of need seems to be the Packers modus operandi of late.

Given the scenario of ( If for some miracle of miracles) the Packers snare one of the top FA Free Safeties and a decent Right Guard and retain both Wilkerson and Breeland I wouldn't be surprised if they double down early on Edge as it would be the only on-paper defensive position that needs a complete rebuild.

CM3 is a FA now and from memory after next year Nick Perry's cap hit drops from 11 million to 7 million (making it easier to move on from him)

carlos's picture

You’re right, Miniman, getting some decent free agents at those positions will sure help how the draft goes.

dblbogey's picture

The ones on steroids and meth? They are pretty twitchy.

Swisch's picture

We don't want the ones with twitchy eyes. :-)

Packer Fan's picture

I am ok with edge first. But I think the second rd one pick should be used to trade down and get more and better 2nd and 3rd round picks. And we need a crafty slot receiver. Cobb is no longer that. Either free agent or draft pick.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Cobb is still a crafty slot receiver when healthy. The problem is the last time he was healthy was 2014. There's a big market for WRs this offseason tons of names to choose from. Hopefully Gute can find a talented bargain.

LambeauPlain's picture

I would definitely keep the #12 and get the best Edge/OLB on the board because it is rich with these guys and a huge need in GB.

I would be fine with trading out of the first for an additional 2nd or high 3rd unless another highly rated player on the Packer board fell to them.

You can get excellent value, especially OL and TE/WR in the 2nd, 3rd rounds. And those two 4th rounders will get excellent depth picks...maybe a starter too.

MikeS's picture

Polite nand Fant in Rd1; Tyler Rapp (S) in Rd 2. OL in Rd 3.

Lphill's picture

Montez Sweat should be considered for edge rusher . Long arms , long reach , speed he is the guy.

Ross Uglem's picture

He's kind of all alone in that second tier after the top five. He doesn't turn the corner well enough for me to put him in that top group.

stockholder's picture

I like sweat more than Polite. I'm fine if they do draft him. Just not @12. Same with Sweat. Polite- Bend – When the edge is soft, he can bend it tight to the quarterback. Where he struggles is bending through contact at his light weight. Doesn’t quite create the force at the top of the arc to power through a punch while turning the corner, can get pushed upfield as a result. When he beats the tackle clean however, shows the hip flexibility and ankle bend to tighten quickly and crush passers. Drops his shoulder to finish. Does a good job rotating his hips at the top of the arc to minimize surface area, athletic enough to swing his whole body around and scrape for a strip-sack.

Bear's picture

Agree with you stockholder on Sweat. Two games I saw Polite play he had hard time getting off blocks and got blasted.

Swisch's picture

As long as we get at least one potentially-awesome edge rusher, and then really stock the offensive line to protect Rodgers.

Johnblood27's picture

were gonna need some help at safety...

FA cannot cover the gaping wound we have there.

Ross Uglem's picture

literally the best safety in football is a free agent.

Community Guy's picture

i am with you.. this should be the big pre-draft splash.. EDGE guys will be too expensive in FA.. THE safety can be within range.. i think. would help make the back-end fierce.

on elite EDGE guys in this draft, i see 3. either package to move up, or, at least, double dip early in the draft and hope the "develop" part of "draft and develop" does its thing :)

fthisJack's picture

Ross...I say get that guy at S as there don't appear to be a ton of good draft prospects and then go edge,TE, OL and slot receiver. if they can trade a few spots back in the first and still get one of their guys and some extra draft picks like last year.....do it!

Ross Uglem's picture

the problem is that there isn't "that guy" at safety.

Swisch's picture

Safety seems third priority.
After the Damarious Randall experience, are we sure we don't have any possibilities already on our roster? Even if that's the case, though, it seems we should pick a safety early in the draft, as long as edge rush and offensive line are higher priorities.
From what I can tell, what we need most at safety is a free safety who can get us some interceptions -- although I'd be glad for other assessments and opinions.

Community Guy's picture

Tramon can play safety. i say "no" to Josh Jackson for safety (i once thought that would be good, not now). Josh Jones needs a third-year jump.. who knows if that will happen? i like Raven Greene to make the team and Ibraheim Campbell too. one sure thing changes the whole group into a strength.

fthisJack's picture

I thought Raven was a man in the back before he got hurt. he may take a second year leap. I think the Brice experiment has run its course. yes, Tramon can play safety and I too don't like the idea of Jackson there. he is still young and needs reps. can't give up on him at corner yet.

packerbackerjim's picture

Thankfully, need and BPA align nicely for GB this year. Any combo of DE/Edge and OT in round 1; TE, S and OG (in any order) in rounds 2-4. I would be OK with Rashan Gary, tho maybe not be quick twitch, fast and strong works for me.

NitschkeFan's picture

Yes! I hope for both an OT and an OG to be drafted in the first 3 rounds (i.e. with their first 4 picks). The o-line is in desperate need of help.

fthisJack's picture

or Winovich in the 4th. he's quick and has a motor.

4zone's picture

I used the same draft board but took a different route (only 3 Rds) but couldn't pass on my #1 if available. Our OL needs fixes now and for the long term future. Can't wait on a 4th round crap shoot every year. And still got two solids to add to the pass rush.

1: R1P12 - OT JONAH WILLIAMS - ALABAMA
2: R1P32 - EDGE JACHAI POLITE - FLORIDA
3: R2P12 - G MICHAEL DEITER - WISCONSIN
4: R3P11 - EDGE CHASE WINOVICH - MICHIGAN

dblbogey's picture

I'd love Williams and Polite, and Deiter, but can't imagine Polite being there at #32.

Ross Uglem's picture

it's more possible than you might think. Attitude concerns.

KeepErMovin's picture

Mock using James Siebers (Completely unrealistic) board:

12 Jachai Polite - EDGE
32 Hollywood Brown - WR
44 Brian Burns - EDGE
75 Yodny Cajuste - OT
107 TJ Hockerson - TE
111 Chase Winovich - EDGE
139 Cody Ford - OG
171 Nasir Adderley - S
179 Jawaan Taylor - OT
202 Irv Smith Jr - TE

packerbackerjim's picture

I can’t imagine Cajuste lasting beyond early second round. All of this early speculation will be upended anyway after the Underwear Olympics.

KeepErMovin's picture

Yeah, he’s a first rounder. All those guys are first and second rounders, but they were all available at those spots in that guys mock.

fthisJack's picture

Hockenson won't be there at 107.

KeepErMovin's picture

I know that, but he was in that guys mock. Following that guy's mock the Packers could get 6 players from Matt Miller's first round mock. lol

Bert's picture

I just hope Gute goes BPA and comes up with a couple real standouts. We sure need some quality players across the board. I really don't care much about position; just get some Pro Bowl type guys for a change.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Man it's so obvious and easy when you put it like that Bert! Why doesn't every GM do that every time?!

Bert's picture

I dunno Jon.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

regarding wide receiver Andy Isabella you can bet the
the New England Patriots are looking at him as another Wes Welker or Julian Edelman since the Packers are smart they going to get the guy in the draft.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Probably not.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Ross,

With Hackett joining MLF I wonder if the Packers will draft a RB earlier in the draft. Any you have your eyes on?

Bert's picture

I'm not a draft expert but keep an eye on Alexander Mattison as a good value RB around RD 4-5. Very tough, quick and can run inside or outside.

Swisch's picture

Always good to draft at least one player from Boise State.
Signed,
Packer fan living in Boise

stockholder's picture

Al don't read this. Draft Tek? Have they ever been right? Walter is better, but don't want Abram. The safety position is not good. Just have to see how they do at indy here. I understand that to get the pressure up the Gut. The packers must do better outside. I like Oliver or Simmons better. Hope they drop to us. As for TE. The packers have no problem signing FAs here. Font is out. Good pick. Just think the packers won't take a TE early. If your willing to take Dakota later to upgrade. I think the packers would do better if they take [email protected]?.

Packer Dave's picture

I can't take mocks seriously that don't take an OL by the third pick. Adding a mauler like Cody Ford would be stupendous.

Ross Uglem's picture

Real weird take considering the franchise’s actual draft strategy.

4thand1's picture

Unfortunetly the underwear olympics will dictate when the 1st edge rusher comes off the board. The 1st edge rusher that posts a great 40 time will have everyone doing handsprings.

Ross Uglem's picture

More likely it’ll be 10 yd split and 3 cone

AgrippaLII's picture

I keep seeing mock drafts with the Packers failing to draft an OT early or not at all. I'm okay with drafting a RG...but to ignore RT would be a huge mistake. Bulaga can't get through an entire season without missing multiple games...and if Bahktiari goes down on the left side we're done! Fix the OL first and the offense will be better...ignore it and it's another short season in Green Bay!

Colin_C's picture

Oof, that Walter football mock would be pretty terrible. I don't think Ferrell is top 15 talent, Abrams is at best a day 2 guy, and Tillery is going back to school I believe.

If I had to write out a semi realistic ideal Day 1 and 2, it would probably look like this:

12 - Brian Burns - EDGE
32 - Nasir Adderley - FS
44 - Devin Bush - ILB
75 - Garrett Bradbury - G

Of course, if we plug some defensive holes through FA, then going after some skill position guys early would be nice as well.

Ross Uglem's picture

Tillery is a senior. Can’t go back to school.

Colin_C's picture

Ah, my bad. Was thinking of Derrick Brown.

stockholder's picture

Really good Mock draft. @12- Can he add Bulk up without slowing down, is the biggest question. Adderley has super great tape. Small school is the ? See if he stands out at senior Bowl. Bush is very good. His 40 time is in ? C-/G still a good pick.

KeepErMovin's picture

Undersized Florida State edge rushers make me nervous... #JamalReynolds

Swisch's picture

Adderley is a great name for a Packer.

rtuck80's picture

Love your input Ross! Do you study these players all year long or just when the season is wrapping up? I love the draft, wish i had more time to learn to study this stuff

Ross Uglem's picture

very much appreciate the kind words. I'm always full disclosure on my work. I watch a lot of college football, both for work and for fun. As far as actually sitting down and whipping through cut ups, it only happens for EDGE guys during the season.

That's for a couple of reasons. First, it is the area that I have studied the most, gotten the most advice about scouting and feel the most comfortable evaluating. Secondly, it's because that is my consistent charge for Cheesehead TV's draft guide.

Once the Packers are eliminated I usually take a few weeks off just to recover and recharge and then I start developing evals for players at all positions, though usually skewing towards the positions where Green Bay has needs and is likely to acquire a player.

fthisJack's picture

I know Willekes is going back to school. just curious what round grade you would have put on him if he had come out? or didn't you study him that much yet?

Dontworrygopackers's picture

best player available. noah fant is a joke when u have graham. we need blockers and tacklers. and a dominant safety

Jonathan Spader's picture

How many good years does Graham have left? How is getting a TE to groom behind Graham a joke?

mrtundra's picture

Graham did not show much in GB this past season. It would not surprise me if GB let Graham go and went after a TE in the Draft or FA.

Dontworrygopackers's picture

as much as we need an edge guy. give me white from the lsu tigers. to me he's the packers version of roquan smith. slide blake over to weak side and we have the nastiest nickel defense in the league ( if we get a great safety)

Ross Uglem's picture

Cowboys just showed us how unimportant it is to have two stud OBLBs. No thanks.

Donster's picture

If the Pack drafts a TE, I would pick T.J. Hockenson from Iowa over Noah Fant from Iowa. Fant basically quit on the team later in the season. Hockenson can block, is a team guy, plays his guts out. Plays without fear. He won the Mackey Award in 2018. And he just declared for the draft yesterday.

jsb937's picture

Kareem Hunt is available you blind softies.

Johnblood27's picture

Hunt would be OK in GB, less stoopid white whores to kick around.

Lighten up Francis...

Rajirumble's picture

Love the mock draft. Andy Isabella is awesome. I understand why you went after an athletic ILB in Allen, but I might be inclined to go Safety there.

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