Packers Final Linebacker Battle Presents a Study in Contrasts

The Green Bay Packers have a difficult decision to make when choosing the final linebacker on the team’s initial 53-man roster. The team is likely to keep five linebackes on the initial roster, and four spots are all but locked up if everybody stays healthy. The first two starters will be Quay Walker and Edgerrin Cooper. Veteran Isaiah McDuffie will make the team, and 2024 third-round pick Ty’Ron Hopper will also be on the roster to start the season. That leaves two players fighting for the final spot: Isaiah Simmons and Kristian Welch.

The two players resent a study in contrasts and give GM Brian Gutekunst some tough decisions to make. What he decides will tell us a lot about his thought process and how he goes about putting together a team.

Simmons will be entering his sixth NFL season in 2025. He was the eighth overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft because of his elite speed and athleticism. The 27-year-old Clemson alum stands 6’4” and weighs 238 pounds. Prior to his draft year, he was timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash at the scouting combine.

Despite his size and speed, Simmons has struggled to establish himself as a starter in the NFL. He spent his first three seasons with the Arizona Cardinals. He played both linebacker and safety for the Cards and also contributed on special teams. But the Cardinals gave up on him after three seasons and traded him to the Giants for a seventh-round pick. The fact that the Cardinals only got that in return for Simmons speaks volumes about his play in Arizona.

In two seasons with the Giants, Simmons only started five games at safety and played mostly on special teams. He did have some success on special teams and even blocked a potential game-winning field goal against Seattle which the Giants recovered and returned for a touchdown. He was named NFC Special Teams Player of the Week for that performance.

Still, the Giants let him go and he signed as a free agent with the Packers this offseason. The Packers decided to have him work exclusively at linebacker in training camp so he could concentrate on one position.

Simmons’ performance with the Packers has been mixed. He’s made some plays in training camp that made the coaches and members of the media take notice. But in the first two preseason games, he looked tentative and unsure of his reads and assignments.

Head coach Matt LaFleur’s recent comments on Simmons reflect his inconsistent play. “He’s an unbelievable athlete. I think it’s just, again, getting more used to playing behind the ball,” LaFleur said. “It’s really, as with most players, it’s the level of consistency that you can go out there and play each play (with) because I think he’s done a lot of good things. And then there’s some things that we absolutely need to clean up.”

Welch also entered the NFL in 2020. He signed with the Baltimore Ravens as an undrafted free agent the same year Simmons was a top 10 overall pick in the draft. Welch spent three seasons with the Ravens but never started a game. In fact, he played a total of 44 defensive snaps in those three years in Baltimore. He did stand out on special teams.

In 2023, Welch joined the Packers and again, became a core special teams player. He did not take a single regular season snap on defense with the Pack.

After the Packers released Welch after training camp last year, he split the season between the Broncos and Ravens. He started one game with each team; his first two NFL starts on defense. The Iola, Wisconsin native re-signed with the Packers this offseason.

During preseason games in Green Bay, Welch showed he can do a respectable job at linebacker. He knows his assignments and gets into the right position to make plays. He lacks the speed and athleticism that Simmons brings to the table, but he is more consistent and reliable.

“He’s done a lot of good things,” LaFleur said. “Certainly, his value is just his ability to go out and do a lot of things in terms of special teams. He’s a four-phase guy, and then he’s got enough experience at linebacker that if you need to fill a hole, he can fill any of those three spots.”

So, does Gutekunst choose the player with the higher upside who hasn’t figured it out so far in five NFL seasons, or the steady player with less pure athletic ability who is more consistent and reliable? In the draft, Gute tends to favor athleticism. When it comes to the roster decision, which direction will he go in? It appears Welch would be the more logical choice for this role because of his consistency. We’ll see what the Packers coaches and GM decide to do next week.

 

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Lphill's picture

August 21, 2025 at 10:40 am

Welch is valuable on special teams yes tough decision .

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splitpea1's picture

August 21, 2025 at 11:07 am

I've already said this too may times, but again, Welch would be the easy choice for me. Remember, we've already got one LB with developmental upside, and one who appears to be figuring it out: Hopper, who's looked much better in the field. So a room consisting of Walker, Cooper, McDuffie, Hopper, and Welch looks pretty balanced and leaves us with one less question mark in this group.

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Cheezehead72's picture

August 21, 2025 at 11:08 am

To me this is an easy decision. I go with the guy that knows what to do. Both players will be a back up and I want a guy that knows the position coming on the field when needed. AJ Hawk was not a fast LB but he knew what to do and was in the right position. We have a fast backup in Hopper. Release Simmons and see if he is available to bring on the PS.

One of the worst things for a team is having a player that can quickly get in the wrong position.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 21, 2025 at 12:14 pm

Agree. Is Simmons even worth a PS spot? He's in his 6th year of NFL and the lights still haven't come on. What else does Hafley need to see? He's an off the charts athlete with poor instincts, slow read and react, and not a solid tackler. Kind of big deficits for a LB in general...and for a Hafley LB specifically. Welch does all those things well and while not being a speed demon, his diagnosing radar is quite good.

I suppose Bisaccia might want Isaiah on the PS in case of a ST hole. But really, it's probably time to call it a career.

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MitchAnthony's picture

August 21, 2025 at 01:25 pm

For all those who like to bag on AJ Hawk, he gave the team one great ability. Availability. He was coming to work every dang day, lunch pail in hand and doing the job.

Did he make some tackles too far from the LOS? Yeah, maybe. Did he lose his helmet way too many times? Yup, he did. Did he give the Packers a good long dependable career. He sure did.

In this linebacker battle I'm leaning toward Welch. His pre-season last year and his work this year shows he knows his assignments and he's a solid special teams asset.

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dblbogey's picture

August 21, 2025 at 01:43 pm

As the 6th player taken in the draft, was Hawk a disappointment?

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 21, 2025 at 02:09 pm

His best season was his rookie year. Didn't take teams too much time to scout him...just run right at him. He'd be on skates going backwards. Very poor disengaging from blocks. Very few impact plays.

He was a hard worker and good teammate. And a good buddy of Rodgers. And Ted really liked him.

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TKWorldWide's picture

August 21, 2025 at 02:36 pm

Probably due to his lofty draft slot, yes. At that spot, you probably expect a star player. Had Hawk been taken in the 3rd or 4th, all the disappointment would’ve disappeared.
Kinda like Blake Martinez years later.

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EricTorkelson's picture

August 22, 2025 at 10:37 am

Totally disagree with you TKW on comment about Hawk should have been 5th or 6th ...

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EricTorkelson's picture

August 22, 2025 at 10:39 am

Yes unfortunately Hawk always showed up...

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crayzpackfan's picture

August 21, 2025 at 11:15 am

"So, does Gutekunst choose the player with the higher upside who hasn’t figured it out so far in five NFL seasons"

I think this statement/question answers itself. If he hasn't figured it out by now, I question why you think he has higher upside. The player who is better right now today is the player who gives the "team" more upside. If GB keeps Simmons, we will know right away that Gute and coaches truly favor athletes over production. To me anyway, this isn't even a hard choice to make.

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Cheezehead72's picture

August 21, 2025 at 11:32 am

I agree. The PS is where players that have high upside and are not ready to play go.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 21, 2025 at 12:20 pm

I expect Hafley and Duggan have seen enough and lean Welch. I wonder if the two coaches have seen Aaron Nagler's post about Simmon's Colts performance: "Take a drink every time Simmons looks lost on the field. If you dare!"

On the other hand, Hafley and Duggan must be very pleased with Hopper's rise! LB room looking good!

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NJMagic's picture

August 21, 2025 at 03:05 pm

I am going to go counter to the stream here... Simmons wouild be my vote:

A few things to keep in mind:
- This is the #5 LB - the PRIMARY job of this role is ST, where Simmons has shined over his career.
- Both Welch and Simmons have significant limtiations (as does EVERY #5 LB) - which means in a game situation, Halfley will need to gameplan around either of them. He would need to limit the playbook for Simmons or limit the athletic exposure for Welch. Which means, in reality if injuries struck to the extent the #5 LB need consistent playing time, he'd adjust the scheme to play 2LB + a SS in run support.
- Hopper looks like a more athletic, higher upside version of Welch. Why roster both? For that matter, we already have one athletically limited LB at #3, do we really want two?
- Simmons also was also misplayed horibly by his past teams (really a tutorial on how a franchise can ruin a player development, but that's for another day), so he may yet settle into a backup role, or even a targeted package where his recognition limitations are reduced

So for the #5 LB, why roster a player for the chance he may see the field at some point (where he'd be planned around anyway!) versus the better ST contributor.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2025 at 03:17 pm

Welch is a better STer probably, over their careers.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 21, 2025 at 04:01 pm

There is zero evidence Simmons is a superior ST player to Welch. Unless you evaluate camp results and preseason...then Welch is your guy. Fundamentally, technically, and motivationally Welch has more. Simmons has a 6 year promise of potential on simmer. It happens. NFL is a grinder.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2025 at 05:23 pm

Well, just to be difficult, I’d go Cooper, Walker, Hopper, Welch, Jamon Johnson and then worry about if I want McDuffie. Ultimately we have Oladapo who has looked very good in the box too. Younger and faster and probably better on STs and D than last year, particularly in coverage. So Simmons wouldn’t even be an afterthought unless he’s stellar on Saturday.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 21, 2025 at 04:23 pm

If it's between Simmons and Welch, I'll take Welch 10 times out of 10.

Maybe' he's "just a guy" who is "not that good", but I don't think you win without guys like him on your team. He stays mostly healthy and will eat up about 25 snaps and make a few tackles . He doesn't make mistakes that hurt the team. You can use him on special teams.

I was kind of surprised that we let Wilson go , because he had a damn good season.

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Snap the ball's picture

August 21, 2025 at 05:33 pm

The linebackers have been picked. That’s easy.

It’s not like women sports when one thinks she better when she not.

Pro sports football. They know and the players around them no…..

This is the easy group to pick..

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Snap the ball's picture

August 21, 2025 at 08:43 pm

Ok they haven’t. Love it

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EricTorkelson's picture

August 22, 2025 at 09:26 am

Not a tough decision, Simmons is a tweener maybe who has survived off his draft position... take the pure linebacker who is not afraid to tackle ( who says Welch has a smaller upside )

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