Packers Emphasis Must Be On Offense in the 2020 Draft

The Packers have some needs on defense, but the team should be in "win-now" mode and needs to emphasize offense in the 2020 NFL Draft.

There is little doubt the Green Bay Packers are in “win-now” mode in 2020. The team is coming off a 13-3-0 regular season and an appearance in the NFC Championship Game. They have a future Hall of Fame quarterback who will turn 37 during the coming season and only has a few years left to play at a high enough level to lead his team to another championship.

While the Packers have some needs to address on defense, getting Rodgers more weapons must be a priority during this draft. Most of the team’s needs do fit into this category.

The Packers haven’t used a first-round draft pick on an offensive player since they selected OT Derek Sherrod with the 32nd overall pick in 2011. The last skill position player Green Bay added in the first round was Rodgers himself in 2005. Prior to that, it was wide receiver Javon Walker who the Pack drafted with the 20th overall pick in 2002.

This year, the Packers priority must be offense. While there are some needs on defense as well, the wide receiver, tight end, offensive tackle and even running back positions are needs for the Packers right now.

Even after the signing of Devin Funchess in free agency, the Packers need to upgrade the wide receiver position. After Davante Adams, they lack proven playmakers who can spread the field, create big plays and force opposing defensive coaches to change their game plans to stop them.

The Packers also have too many players with similar body types and skill sets. Green Bay has favored big, tall receivers and the roster is full of them. Funchess, Jake Kumerow and Marquez Valdes-Scantling are all 6’4” while Equanimeous St. Brown and Allen Lazard are both 6’5”. Since the departure of Randall Cobb after the 2018 season, the Packers have lacked the smaller, quicker receiver who is most effective in the slot. The situation forced Matt LaFleur to often move Adams inside to the slot often during the 2019 season.

A new wide receiver who will add diversity to the team’s skill set and help upgrade the overall talent level at receiver is needed. Expect the Packers to select at least two wide receivers in this year’s draft, one in the first three rounds and at least one on Day three.

Tight end is another area the Packers may look to add in this year’s draft to help Rodgers. Right now, the Packers have second-year man Jace Sternberger, Robert Tonyan, veteran Marcedes Lewis and journeyman Evan Baylis on the roster along with converted defensive lineman James Looney.

Sternberger showed flashes of ability late in the season and in the playoffs but has yet to catch a pass in a regular season game. Lewis is 35 and best suited to be a situational blocker while Tonyan has 14 career catches in two NFL seasons.

GM Brian Gutekunst probably won’t add a tight end until the middle rounds of the draft, but adding one is a possibility. Word around the team indicates that management is high on Sternberger and may not commit to bringing in another tight end early in the draft.

Running back is another area the Packers may draft this year. While the Packers have an excellent starter in Aaron Jones and a valuable backup in Jamaal Williams, both of their contracts expire after the 2020 season.

It is unlikely the Packers keep both running backs and it’s possible they don’t re-sign either of them due to the way teams are devaluing the position throughout the NFL these days.

The Packers may add a running back in the middle of the draft this season. It is unlikely they use a first-round pick on a running back who wouldn’t play much this year and doesn’t fill an immediate need.

Offensive line is another possibility for the Packers in the first few rounds of the draft. Bryan Bulaga departed this season and starting left tackle David Bakhtiari is going to be a free agent after the coming season unless the Packers sign him to a new contract.

Gutekunst added Ricky Wagner in free agency, but that was a short-term deal and Wagner will be 31 during the coming season.

With center Corey Linsley’s contract also up after 2020, the Packers could add a player at that position on day three of the draft as well.

There are those that believe it’s time to add Rodgers’ successor in this year’s draft. That would not be consistent with the team’s present win-now mode. Those fans who were disappointed in Gutekunst for adding a player who wouldn’t start right away last year in Rashan Gary would be very unhappy with the Packers drafting a quarterback in the first round who won’t play for another two or three years at least while Rodgers completes his contract.

The Packers have needs on defense, but if the team wants to take that final step forward and advance to another Super Bowl, then getting help for Rodgers and the offense should be the overriding emphasis for the Packers in this year’s draft.

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CDCDAVEretired's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:39 pm

When I saw Russell Wilson in his senior season with the Badgers I knew he would be an exceptional quarterback in the NFL. When I saw Jonathan Taylor run for 3 years with the Badgers I know he will be an exceptional running back in the NFL. His excellent patience, vision, and speed are even more impressive than Melvin Gordon. Moreover: he can contribute immediately in his first year while a receiver rarely excels in their first year. Aaron Jones injuries: (2)2017 knee mcl sprains , 2018 thigh/hamstring pull, and 2018 knee mcl sprain. This will be his 4th year in the league.Time to move on. If the Packers do not choose JT with the 30th pick: I promise you Gutekunst and LaFleur will regret it for the rest of their professional lives! That's a fact Jack! Round 2 and round 3 WR and OT.

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GilMartin's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:41 pm

I think offense is the way to go. No doubt Taylor will be a special player. Just not sure RB is the top priority for the Packers. Not saying it's impossible, but we shall see. A Wisconsin product would certainly be interesting. Thanks for the comment.

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dobber's picture

April 09, 2020 at 01:24 pm

" No doubt Taylor will be a special player."

I wonder how many people said the same thing about Ron Dayne...

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 09, 2020 at 01:49 pm

Or Montee Ball, Anthony Davis, P.J. Hill, Brian Calhoun, etc.,etc.
Unfortunately, Wisconsin running backs rarely make it in the NFL

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:26 pm

Do you think it's in part because they get used so much in college, so many touches every year, that they wear down?

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 10, 2020 at 03:44 pm

Possibly. Wisconsin traditionally has exceptional OLine's that maybe inflate their numbers as opposed to other college running backs. Not really sure. But other than Melvin Gordon and James White (who really is more of safety valve receiver out of the backfield than a running back), there haven't been many success stories when you consider the number of 1000+ yard running backs that come out of WI every year.

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April 09, 2020 at 03:50 pm

Absolutely no comparison btw. Taylor and Dayne. One with sprinter's speed and a solid frame, the other guy a big back dependent on a dominant O line to open gapping holes to pass through. Taylor creates faster and can go the distance anytime. If he fell to #30 the Pack would be fools to pass over him.

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April 10, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Not sure he'll fall to 30 though and not sure if the Packers would select him if he were available. Be tough to pass on him though. Depends who else is still on the board.

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MWendlandt's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:06 pm

There's a huge difference between Dayne and Taylor. Dayne was a guy whose style didn't match his skillset in the NFL. He danced a bit too much and didn't get downhill fast enough for the pros. Taylor has the acceleration, speed, and feet to get upfield much quicker.

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:30 pm

I think Taylor will be successful in the NFL mostly for the reasons you cited. I don't think the Packers will pick him in the first round but we shall see. Thanks for the comment.

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Demon's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:56 pm

Beat me to it dobber. Like Dayne, JT has a ton of mileage on him. I suspect this guy one one of the guys that was promoting Jared Abby as well.

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:25 pm

LOL. A lot.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:55 pm

Good reporting , Gil, the offense has to be put back together. WR,OT, CB, DT TE my first five. Maybe the draft mockery can begin this week and put up some prize money to the most accurate predictor. Assumes no trade ups/downs.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:41 pm

Two ways to look at the Packers' path to an SB this season if you believe last season wasn't a fluke.

1) Can the Packers win if the offense was more dominant and can it become so through this draft.
2) Will the Defense be enough to allow the Offense to remain as is if they go defense in the draft.

Which side of the ball can afford to be ignored for the first 3 rounds of the draft. The answer is neither. Neither side of the ball is strong enough to carry the other. GB must get at least two day one impact players with one for each side of the ball. WR/OL or DL/ILB to even consider a chance for a repeat of last season.

Before anyone screams about getting two day one impact players, remember, it won't take much to upgrade from whom we have right now.

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PeteK's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:53 pm

I fully agree, we have proven players in all positions especially the key positions. We just need more solid players.

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PeteK's picture

April 09, 2020 at 05:02 pm

oops

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Guam's picture

April 09, 2020 at 05:03 pm

OK, who kidnapped Taryn and what have you done with her? This comment is far too positive for the Taryn we know and love, so give her back! BTW, I agree with this post, whoever wrote it.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:02 pm

It's me and all I did was put it a different way. One that is more optimistic sounding to those who cannot tell the difference from reality.

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PeteK's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:34 pm

She killed it. LOL

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Guam's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:32 pm

You did hedge your statement with "if you believe last season wasn't a fluke", but the rest of your post was very unTaryn like. I also like my Green and Gold colored reality.

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Coldworld's picture

April 10, 2020 at 07:27 am

Maybe learning to communicate effectively?

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murf7777's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:16 pm

You had me before you said “ it won't take much to upgrade from whom we have right now”. Come on man, I know you think we were lucky to get 13 wins but the reality is we got 13 wins and this team isn’t without many very good players and a few great ones named Arod, Bak, Adams, Clark and a rising star in Alexander and Jones. And two very good ones in the Smith brothers. We are not without talent. Every team has weaknesses. Anyone can nitpick, but my believe we are one difference maker away from the big dance and nobody knows if that person is in the tram and ready to break out.

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:38 pm

I like your analysis Murf. The only thing is, the NFC is loaded. The Packers are one of several teams that are serious contenders to go to the Super Bowl. This year's draft should be used to add at least one impact player to improve the team and get them over the hump. Thanks for commenting.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:49 pm

I simply hope they don't pass on future superstars as they have done in the past to get an additional pick(s). It's just disappointing that we don't have guys like Watt and James on our team when they were difference makers and obvious choices even to simply avid fans like me. I think it is important to take the best player available with the first pick rather than trading down unless the choices available are indistinguishable at that time.

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MWendlandt's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:07 pm

I'll take Alexander and Savage over Derwin James. Remember, trading down and passing on James got that second first rounder for 2019. Plus, the jury's still wide open on James after he missed a large portion of last season.

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Demon's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:06 pm

Does that also mean that you would take King and Vince Biegel over TJ Watt also?

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CAG123's picture

April 09, 2020 at 08:32 pm

I don’t believe he said that.

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Z-Smith's picture

April 11, 2020 at 01:19 am

You can't blame Gutekunst for that when he wasn't even the GM.

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:39 pm

I agree re: James. The Packers and Gute got the better of that trade so far. Thanks for commenting.

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Demon's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:04 pm

Am I to believe that you dont subscribe to trade down Teds ideas that 2 horse apples are better than a nice fresh juicy honeycrisp?

Ted loved multiple bites at the apple. The problem was that when it was finally his turn, all that was left was a rotten worm filled core and a pile of horse apples.

If someone would like to do some research, ( Im not that ambitious) please research NFL ALLPRO teams of the last 10 years and see how many were drafted in the 1st round. Then come back here and tell me we need to trade down why?

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:29 pm

When the players on the board are indistinguishable that's when GMs tend to trade down. We shall see what Gute decides to do. There are several positions that need to be addressed early in the draft. I have a hunch Gute doesn't stay at 30 but we shall see. Thanks for commenting.

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Z-Smith's picture

April 11, 2020 at 01:17 am

I'll take Alexander and Savage over James any day.

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Bure9620's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:54 pm

I understand the sentiment but frankly everything is transitioning into the Packers becoming more of a running and play action team. We were bounced by SF because of a complete inability to stop the run, not because we lacked weapons or protection. OT would be fine early, but for a non-QB I would prefer DT or a 2 gapping DE or an elite corner. The "we need more weapons crowd" needs to settle down. We have Aaron Jones and Williams and I expect Gute to add another back. This offense also throws to the back a lot. Sternberger will be able to likely atleast equal Grahams production you then throw in Funchess and Lazard as possession receivers. MVS gets in to stretch the field.
Maybe they add a weapon which would be fine but this is a not an 11 personnel base set anymore. 12 personnel does not have a slot receiver and many formations will have Aaron Jones as a receiver or in the slot. I think Lefleur prefers an extra TE in many these circumstances anyway. 12 personnel is the base set. Some of the O-line will be resigned, Bahk or Lindsley likely and we draft a tackle in the first 4 rounds.

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CAG123's picture

April 09, 2020 at 08:39 pm

Williams isn’t much of a weapon, Funchess is a drop machine, Lazard lacks the speed to separate consistently the Packers definitely need more diverse weapons. I don’t know what’s with this idea that just because you run the ball means you don’t need more weapons teams like the 49ers, Ravens, Seahawks, Bills etc all run the ball more and better than the Packers and have/will invest in more weapons.

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Bure9620's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:18 pm

Quite a alot to unpack but speed is not actually what always separates, typically it is release at the line, route running and also strength and size. Janis could fly as could Davis. MVS is a burner. Do they consistently separate? Nope. The Packers want Power forward style rebounders at reciever. They don't need to "separate" with speed as you say. They need to use body position to create space and good route running. Davante Adams has never been a burner, yet he is open and separating alot. Speed can help increase separation? sure, but the speed/separation thing is a tired old myth. Funchess is much better than many give him credit for, massive upgrade over Allison. I disagree the Seahawks and Bills have more pass catching offensive weapons. Williams is a screen threat and an overall threat out of the Backfield and when used, he has been quite effective.

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CAG123's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:28 pm

I didn’t say they had more weapons I said they still invested in the position or will invest the Bills just acquired Diggs, the Hawks drafted Metcalf, the 49ers drafted Deebo, the Ravens drafted one of those Browns all these team run it a lot and still said “Yeah we need more weapons”. Put MVS on a go route with no safety help and he’s open all day that’s his skill set guys like him will hardly be great route runners think Mike Wallace or Desean Jackson.

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Bure9620's picture

April 10, 2020 at 12:54 am

If only the entire franchise and coaching staff knew if you just" put MVS on a go route he is open all day." Yes that simple, just run him on one route and he will always be open. We must have a QB incapable of understanding whom is open or MVS would score on every play. You should coach.....

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CAG123's picture

April 10, 2020 at 09:18 am

I know you’re probably upset that I debunked your silly “Packers don’t need weapons because they are running more” take but no need to be rude. I’m only saying that MVS like the other WR I named aren’t great route runners they aren’t going to have an extended route tree I guess if you just wanted a sarcastic reply then yeah you could take what I said literally and believe that I think he’ll be open on every play. No need to try so hard it’s just conversation relax.

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AgrippaLII's picture

April 09, 2020 at 11:46 pm

Funny but those teams you mention also have very good defenses...another weapon on offense won't help the run defense. That offensive weapon can't do squat if he's sitting on the sidelines while the other team's offense is eating up huge chunks of the clock running the football and putting points on the board...and keeping their own defensive unit well rested.

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CAG123's picture

April 10, 2020 at 09:30 am

funny but the Seahawks were terrible against the run and pass ranking in the bottom twenty in both and the 49ers were slightly below average at 17th so much for very good.... none of that disputes what I said about run heavy teams still adding more receiving threats with everything you thought you were saying they should invest elsewhere right? Wrong because in this league you can never have too many quality wide receivers.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:00 pm

49ers had the highest scoring offense in the NFC, while throwing the least. They threw 10 passes in the Championship game. The four teams who threw the fewest passes all made the playoffs and had a combined record of 46-18.

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Bure9620's picture

April 10, 2020 at 08:19 pm

Yup....

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Leatherhead's picture

April 10, 2020 at 10:48 am

Williams, and Lazard, are both good, solid players who’ve helped us win games. And they’re cheap.

All those teams you mentioned are different from the Packers in two critical respect. First, the Packers already have one of the league’s premier throw-and-catch combos. Second, none of the teams you mentioned feature an old QB near the end of his career.

When Rodgers was young, we loaded up on receivers and relied on Rodgers. I think it’s a good strategy, so the QBs/receivers can grow together. And it worked well for over a decade, and we’ve had real good offenses. But the only super bowl appearance was the year we had the conference’s best defense.

Rodgers job is to run the offense, execute , protect the ball, and make good decisions and accurate throws. I have no doubt about his ability to do a real good job But we need a defense that keeps the score low and a running game that takes some of the load off his shoulders.

You seem to desire an offense that more closely resembles what we did with Thompson/ McCarthy, and a young Rodgers. I think it makes more sense to build the defense and the run and not rely as much on QB heroics.

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Lphill's picture

April 09, 2020 at 12:52 pm

Does not matter how they upgrade the offense if the defense can’t get off the field when they are being run all over and the clock running it won’t make a difference adding a playmaker , the entire NFL knows the secret to beating the Packers is run the football .

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:38 pm

The inverse is just as true. If the Packers score every single possession, they won't lose a whole lot. It's pretty easy to stay with the run when the other team has 0 on the board. It gets harder once they put up 30.

And let's not pretend that the 17 games besides the last one never happened. They won 14 times. I would say the defense was a bigger factor in that total than the offense. The run defense was good enough for 14 wins in 18 tries.

You can construct a team that can only win a defensive struggle, you can construct one that will only win a shootout or you can construct one to win by defense or offense, depending on the opposition. Give me the last one every day. And twice on Sundays. To be that, the Packers need much more help on offense than on defense.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

April 09, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Not sure why everyone says Lewis is best suited to be a situational blocker. I thought he more than held his own when Rodgers threw to him. I had much more confidence in Lewis than Graham. TE still needs an upgrade. Hoping Sternberger breaks out!

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Archie's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:20 pm

I'd like to see Gutey end up with two picks near the top of R2 and then draft as follows:

2A: Brandon Aiyuk WR
2B: Chase Claypool WR/TE

Combined with Adams and Lazard, what a way for Rodgers to finish his career.

We can patch the holes elsewhere with the rest of the draft and maybe bring back the Claymaker to play ILB for a year or two.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:23 pm

More of a Michael Pittman fan over Chase Claypool. But that's nit-picking.

If ever there was lining up the strength of the draft with the needs of a team, it is this draft with this Packer team leading to using the top 2 picks on WRs.

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NWPackersfan's picture

April 09, 2020 at 01:51 pm

Just for history sake Donald Driver was a 7th round draft pick . Jordy and Greg Jennings were 2nd round picks. Personally i'd like to see a quality ILB or another Kenny Clark IDL pick that can literally start fast.
There will be a crop of WR's this year al; the way in to the 3rd round.
Of Course i'm not expert so take my thoughts for what they are worth.....Go Packers!!!!!

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:43 pm

Your logic is sound. The only thing is the Packers tend to de-value those positions. I think they'll address IDL and ILB in the draft, but not in the first or second rounds unless a real gem falls to them. Thanks for the comment.

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splitpea1's picture

April 09, 2020 at 02:51 pm

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Teams that can't stop the run or defend the middle of the field aren't bringing home any Trophies, no matter how great the quarterback is.

The Packers need to draft defensive building blocks instead of having to import them most of the time through free agency. The only glaring need as far as offense goes is a speedy WR who can earn the trust of Rodgers, hopefully in short order.

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stockholder's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:11 pm

@62 Neville Gallimore DT. @94 Leki Fotu DT (This is the only guy they must have! ) Even Trade up for him. @175 Khalil Davis DT @236 Tyler Clark Dt

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April 09, 2020 at 03:57 pm

Gallimore and Fotu would give DL a new look. Gallimore could play DE on early downs and mover inside to replace Fotu on passing downs.

But I'm still for drafting offensive weapons this time around.

Aiyuk & Claypool - both early in R2

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April 09, 2020 at 04:05 pm

The Utah defense was dominant for three years. They have a slew of good players that will be drafted from that squad.
Fotu is a target and Davis. I think Keke is the same guy as Gallimore. Of course, I have to plug Benito Jones. Gutedkunst is targeting some of these guys, otherwise he would have secured a DT in free agency.

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April 09, 2020 at 03:15 pm

I completely think the author has it wrong and that splitpea1 has it right. More importantly, I look at Gutekunst’s actions as GM and believe he has it right.

In over two years as GM, entering his third offseason and draft, this is what he has done. On offense, we extended Rodgers. We released three veteran WRs and replaced them with Day 3 picks, UDFAs, and Funchess. He also began rebuilding the offensive line with Madison and Jenkins in the draft and Turner and Wagner in free agency. He released a good veteran tackle.

On defense, he drafted a good punter, drafted Alexander, Gary, Jackson, Savage and made a huge move in FA by getting Smith, Smith, and Amos .

He hired a coach who became the most successful rookie coach in NFL history, and we won 14 games for the 4th time since the merger 50 years ago. Our defense improved from bad to above average. On offense, we do a great job of protecting the ball and executing in the red zone. Our RBs exploded for 25 touchdowns. We kept our QB healthy all year.

I think/hope/predict that Gutekunst is committed to putting the best possible defense on the field and being conservative on offense to protect our QB.. He could, if he wishes, get 4 of the Top 50 defensive players in the draft. He could get a Top 5 RB to add to Jones.

When old QBs win the Super Bowl, they have very good defenses. Every Super Bowl the Packers have ever won has been with an HOF QB and a very good defense. We have the QB, we need the defense.

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April 09, 2020 at 03:25 pm

Rodgers deserves a serious upgrade of the WR corps. Why buy a Rolls Royce if you are unwilling to put gas in the tank?

Aiyuk & Claypool - go get 'em Gutey!

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April 09, 2020 at 04:07 pm

Why buy expensive accessories for an old car?

The more the rest of the team does, the less we need from Rodgers, and the less we need the more likely it is he can deliver.

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Samson's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:09 pm

Nice post OS but most don't need the history lesson... Again, the premise of most of your posts are that AR isn't able to "light it up" anymore. --- The other side of that discussion is simple --- every QB in the NFL needs weapons around him to excel.... Watch TB rebound with more weapons in TB... Watch AR "light it up" with better receivers in season 2020.

This ain't the Taylor/Hornung Packers anymore... The NFL is a different animal from your youth.

(Please... do everyone a favor & don't go back to your PFR analytics to belabor your point about "run ..run..run"... We've all read it over & over & over...)

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April 09, 2020 at 06:27 pm

That’s not my premise. My premise is that it’s a long season, and you want to win enough games to win the division, and it’s a big disadvantage if your QB is banged up during the stretch rn and playoffs. So instead of ‘lighting it up’ it’s better if you can win with running and defense and keep your QB fresher for when he’s really needed.

For those who don’t know, 10 of the playoff teams from last season, including the Packers, were in the top 13 in rushing attempts. It’ll be like that again this year. The Packers were a league-worst 331 rushing attempts n 2018 and improved to 13th last year.

This is not about whether Rodgers can sling it. This is about winning over a twenty game season. It also stands to reason that if your defense can keep it close then you’ve got a chance as long as Rodgers is healthy.

I’d call Jones and Adams real good, Class A weapons. I think the WR#2 by committee will help, and I absolutely believe that’s enough for a QB like Rodgers to put points on the board.

All four Packer Lombardi Trophies were won with a HOF QB and a top defense. We have the QB.

One more time Samson. That’s not my premise. My premise is that we can win it all, this year, if our defense is good enough and if we keep Rodgers healthy.

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CAG123's picture

April 09, 2020 at 08:50 pm

Those weapons weren’t enough to put points up last year on a consistent basis the Packers were 15th in scoring last year and Funchess isn’t moving the needle much. Now if the Packers can muster up a keep away long drive offense similar to what the 2016 Cowboys had with these same weapons then I’ll be cool with that but too often did the offense stagnate last year.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:06 pm

Even when we had the #1 offense we didn’t go to the Super Bowl. But when we have the best D, we do. The weapons we had last year won 14 games and scored 30 in a loss.

One of the main reasons our offense stumbled last year was short yardage, not because of lack of weapons. Get a meat hammer in our backfield and our offense will stay on the field longer.

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CAG123's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:37 pm

Scored 30 in a loss? Alright OS we’re grasping at straws now and the other main reason our offense stumbled was long yardage how many 3rd and 5 plus yardage situations did the Packers fail to convert? A meat hammer ain’t picking up too many 3rd and 7s. The Packers do need a better compliment to Jones but a plodder isn’t the answer they need a guy that’s still dynamic but can also pick up the tough yardage.

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NickPerry's picture

April 10, 2020 at 08:03 am

30 in a loss? The Philly game? That's EXACTLY the game to look at that suggests the Packers need more than Adams, Jones, and now Lazard (maybe). BUT if the Packers are becoming the run, run, run, team you suggest, when do you suppose they'll take a RB in this years draft?

IMO I think they'll do that anyways but if the Packers are really going to be a run first offense, then I'll expect a RB to be chosen no later than the 3rd round...Maybe even Taylor, Dobbins, or Swift...Maybe Moss.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:11 pm

When did 13 become top anything. Top 10 ends the top of any significance.

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Bure9620's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:20 pm

Leatherhead, we have disagreed on many things, but not here. The Packers are becoming more of a run team, and looking for efficient passing with no turnovers and playing great defense. This is how the Patriots have played for the last 7 years.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 10, 2020 at 08:56 am

Exactly, Bure. I don't really see why people are so opposed to this idea.

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TheVOR's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:28 pm

Dead on, I read this and I'm like, WRONG WRONG WRONG !!! We need DL, we desperately need ILB, we need OL, RB, WR.

We didn't appear in the Superbowl last year because we were exposed for exactly the fakes we were in the defensive trenches, and at ILB..

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:20 pm

Fakes don't win 14 games. That happened just like the final ugly loss happened. Neither invalidated the other. They were a pretty good defense that did not match up well against SF and got smoked. Twice. That may not matter in 2020. Don't chase one team. Chase excellence. And the Packers need a better offense to achieve excellence.

Let's not forget that the formula SF used to beat the Packers did not win a title. That was won by a team that could erase a 24 point 2nd quarter deficit by halftime.

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PatrickGB's picture

April 10, 2020 at 10:37 am

“Don't chase one team. Chase excellence. And the Packers need a better offense to achieve excellence.“ I agree. Most of us were surprised that we did as well as we did. And we did it because the emphasis was on stopping the pass first. My opinion is that we could benefit from a better IDL but if we out score the opponent then we would see less running plays as they try to keep pace. This years draft is chock full of receivers and the team can let the draft come to us. I doubt that a premier MLB or DL will be available at #30 anyway. I would even be ok with trading down from the first round for two picks in the second round. Pick up a good WR and maybe another offensive weapon or lineman.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:51 pm

"Teams that can't stop the run or defend the middle of the field aren't bringing home any Trophies, no matter how great the quarterback is."

The last Super Bowl would suggest differently. The Chiefs were beaten until their great QB decided it was time to drop 21 on the 49ers in the blink of an eye. It was not the first time that Chief team looked like they were in deep trouble in the playoffs either. The playoff run was full of early struggles, particularly by their defense, that were rendered meaningless because their great QB played great football. Hell, the Texans had them down 24-0 early in the 2nd quarter and were losing 28-24 by halftime. They were "only" down 10 to Tennessee, which hardly qualifies as a comeback, relatively speaking.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 10, 2020 at 03:54 pm

Mind meld

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stockholder's picture

April 09, 2020 at 02:58 pm

I said all along Pay Defense, Draft Offense. You Trade Down if it's Offense Only. But the reality is we lost players on Defense. Yes we brought in one to replace a Tackling machine. But the hole is still there next to him. It's been a hole since Ryan left. ( You can even go back to AJ Hawk.) Murray or Queen should be their pick @30. And if their not? Fill it later! It's WR Next. = Reagor!!! And if he's not "Trade It". For as many 3rd rounders as he can get. 3 players are better then any Question Mark.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:17 pm

If Reagor is remaining at #30 better run the selection to the outbox and send it to Park Avenue. He will not be there @ # 62.

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PatrickGB's picture

April 10, 2020 at 11:56 am

The draft sites I looked at had both of these (MLB) guys gone by #30. The rest of the league sees that position as more important than our team does. Yet, I do see value in the second and third rounds.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:32 pm

Not a huge JT fan. Two reasons. First, fumbles. Second, he seemed to disappear when it mattered. Watching JT and Dobbins go head-to-head, I was way more impressed with Dobbins. I know this is a very debatable point of view. Dobbins may slip because of his ankle injury at the combine. We'll see.

Player available dependent, in an ideal world, I'd like to see the Packers go: RT, WR, ILB, RB, WR with their first five picks.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 09, 2020 at 07:25 pm

I think Dobbins is clearly better, and most of the internet draft sites think so too. I’d also look at the NFL careers of former Badgers and Buckeyes. Dobbins would be my guy if I was going offense.

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Bure9620's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:44 pm

Totally different offenses, Dobbins ran out of a lot of spread formations. The fumbling from JT is a concern, I agree, but he seemed to have figured that out last season. I don't think Taylor disappears in big moments. Trying to come back on a team when they put 9 or 10 guys in the box basically dictates Wisconsin throwing. Dobbins is a great back as well, but did not face anywhere near the amount of 8, 9 or even 10 and 11 fronts JT did. Defenses playing Wisconsin schemed their whole defense to stop Taylor. OHIO St. Had weapons all around. Taylor consistently faced 8 man fronts and ran for over 6K yards in 3 years, the most ever.....pretty impressive. I am Wiscosnin alumni, so maybe defensive of Badgers. Frankly, I would be happy if the Packers drafted either player.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 10, 2020 at 04:07 pm

You don't have to be an Alumni to recognize a great player. Forward Thinking. Thanks, from a fellow Badger.

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KneelYoung's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:32 pm

ILB like Murray or Baun in the first or a DL................Then WR.........Then O-line...... The middle of our defense is "offensive" to watch. Greatly need help there.

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Samson's picture

April 09, 2020 at 03:48 pm

Depending on how the draft falls, Gute will draft for player & need... This will involve picks that serve both sides of the ball ..... My guess... WR, OL, DL ( 2 of each).... No reaches & the draft will be successful... Then MLF & staff take over.

All any team has to do is score more points in most regular season games & all postseason games to hoist the Lombardi. --- Strong defense or potent offense is just a matter of personal preference.... Does it really matter if the Pack win the SB 17-14 or 41-35?

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Guam's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:59 pm

I'd give you five thumbs up if I could. The Packers have needs on both sides of the ball - draft the best players available and don't reach to fill needs. That said, I suspect this draft will tilt toward offense for no other reason than the strength of this draft is OT and WR. But take the best players available when you pick!

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Leatherhead's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:52 pm

Most of Rodgers career we’ve put below average defenses on the field. The best defense he ever had? 2010. Best in the NFC.

If you want Rodgers to get a ring this year, give him the best defense you can.

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Samson's picture

April 09, 2020 at 07:13 pm

The 2010 "D" had CM3 & Raji at (basically) their prime which enabled a top NFC defense... The "O" had Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, James Jones, Jordy Nelson & J. Finley... Weapons.

The 2020 draft will not all by itself improve the "D"... but the 2020 draft can improve the "WEAPONS" available to AR.... Think of speed (especially at the WR spot).

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Lphill's picture

April 10, 2020 at 11:26 am

The glaring need for the Packers is players who can stop the run , Gutey didn’t fix that and unless he does don’t expect more than a wildcard this season if even that , Oren Burks is the guy Gutey is gonna expect to fix the run defense the 3 rd round pick who may have gone undrafted if not for the Packers.

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PackfanNY's picture

April 09, 2020 at 04:41 pm

I agree it’s long past time to get some first rate offensive weapons for the offense. However, the inability to stop the run as evidenced by the Championship game beatdown means that the Packers cannot exclusively focus on offense. The defensive line sprang leaks and our middle linebacking core is being manned by a guy who was cut by the Browns. Simply saying that we need to focus on all offense is not a plan. Gute has some work to do.

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NoNonsense's picture

April 09, 2020 at 06:27 pm

Did one of those mock drafts without trades and came away with

30 ILB Patrick Queen
62 WR Brandon Aiyuk
94 RB Antonio Gibson
136 OL Tyler Biadasz
175 WR Devin Duvernay
192 S Tanner Muse
208 WR Austin Mack
209 OT Trey Adams
236 OT Jon Runyan
242 OT Charlie Heck

Give me just the first 3 and I will be a very happy man.

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CheesyTex's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:08 pm

Gibson at 94 and Duvernay at 175 is a dream scenario. IMO Gibson is ready to go now as a back up and would give Gute flexibility next year when Jones and Williams are up for new contracts, and Duvernay can be a super slot receiver.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:11 pm

Both of them ran 4.39 at the combine. You cannot teach someone to run that fast.

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dobber's picture

April 10, 2020 at 05:43 am

Love Gibson, he's one of my favorite sleeper players in this draft, but I don't think he comes as a RB. He's a gimmicky player who the Packers would have to define a role for early on, but was used more as a WR than a true RB in college. There's a lot of Ty Montgomery in this guy, and in order to get it right, they would have to have a real plan for him.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 10, 2020 at 04:11 pm

He would compare with Bowden on the use chart. Not fair to compare his speed with a guy like Monty who is still scraping the bottom of the depth chart.

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KneelYoung's picture

April 11, 2020 at 12:34 pm

give me the first five and I would also be a very happy person.

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taarons420's picture

April 09, 2020 at 09:31 pm

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to move on from Rodgers as fast as possible.
That damn contract, though.
Stuck with this guy for at least 2 more years.
Ugh.
Time for some new life.
He had his chance.
Did well.
Time is up.

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Lphill's picture

April 10, 2020 at 11:25 am

So it was Rodgers fault the Packers got run all over in the NFC championship game?

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:45 pm

of course not although their lack of ability to move the ball much and score in the first half was at least partially his fault. Thanks for commenting.

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April 10, 2020 at 02:15 pm

The offense was so inept that SF never even had to attempt to pass. Zero pressure was put on SF's players or staff.
The beauty of football is that it is the epitome of a team game.
Offense helps defense.
Defense helps offense.

The offense did the defense no favors.

Did the defense suck? Yep.
Would an effective offense have helped by forcing SF to involve Garoppolo? Yep.

An elite QB would have figured out some way of making some semblance of an offense work.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 10, 2020 at 04:01 pm

Not times not still equals not. Relax, it is Not Happening.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 09, 2020 at 10:52 pm

After using just 4 of 16 picks on offensive players in the first two days of the past 5 drafts, it is far past time for the Packers to turn attention to that side of the ball early and often.

Last year, the draft was deep in pass rushers and TE. Gute walked out of day 2 with one of each. This draft is deep with OT and WR. Which just so happens to line up with primary needs. So do that again. And then double up on day 3, which he didn't do last year.

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GilMartin's picture

April 10, 2020 at 01:44 pm

Spot on HankScorpio. And that wouldn't surprise me either. Thanks for the comment.

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