Packers 35 Lions 17: Game Balls and Lame Calls

All it takes is a little bit of defense.

I have heard it said that the Dallas Cowboys may be America's team, but the Green Bay Packers are God's team.  That's why they wear that G on their helmets.  Sure enough, with the Packers trailing the Detroit Lions by three in the third quarter, and the defense powerless to stop them, the Packers got a little help from above. 

 

It started to rain at Lambeau Field.

 

And as the weather changed, so did the complexion of the game.  Green Bay's chances were looking as dark as the clouds overhead, as they faced a third and twelve, deep in their own territory, after Aaron Rodgers was sacked on the opening drive of the third quarter.  That's when the lightning strike of Rodgers to Davante Adams connected masterfully for 50 yards.  What followed was a downpour of three unanswered touchdowns, and a flood of Detroit miscues that turned the game into a comfortable win for the Green and Gold.  Even the dubious defense seemed to draw energy from the wet conditions.  Suddenly they were getting consistent pressure on quarterback Jared Goff, forcing short dumpoffs, ending with sure tackling.  There was tight coverage in the secondary and passes being knocked away.  There was even (gasp!) an interception in the fourth quarter.  Green Bay pitched a shutout after halftime and coasted to a 35-17 victory.  The win enables them to take their rightful place atop the NFC North with Chicago at 1-1 on the young season.

 

I think we all understand that Aaron Rodgers gets a game ball any time the Packers win.  So let's move on to other acknowledgements.

 

 

GAME BALLS

 

Aaron Jones

With the Lions playing two safeties deep all night, inviting Green Bay to run the ball, Matt LaFleur actually did!  The beneficiary was Jones, who not only rushed for 67 yards and a score, but burned Detroit with 6 catches for 48 yards and three more touchdowns.  Patience was a virtue for the offense, content to let the 5th year veteran slash the front seven.  This was his night.  He will sell a lot of sunglasses if he keeps this up.

 

Davante Adams

Ho-hum.  Adams' productivity has become so routine, you are almost caught by surprise that he finished with eight catches for 121 yards.  Besides the 50 yard bomb, the highlight was a spectacular leaping catch in the third quarter for 22 yards, setting up another touchdown at the eleven yard line.  He played so well, you could hear the price of his contract go up with every catch.

 

De'Vondre Campbell

He had a few lapses, but anytime a guy finishes with 13 tackles and an interception, you gotta give it up.  He doesn't always make the play, as when he was beaten by T.J. Hockenson for an eight yard touchdown, but the former Atlanta Falcon seems to be around the action and made a noticeable improvement from week one to week two. 

 

Eric Stokes

Is there anything that makes you feel better than when a rookie draft pick starts making great plays?  Stokes had three impressive passes defensed, each time showing terrific closing speed and body control, enabling him to get a hand on the ball.  He started the game with Kevin King and Jaire Alexander, forcing Chandon Sullivan to the bench.  It took a half, but it paid off.

 

 

LAME CALLS

 

Lack of First Half  Blitzes

Defensive boss Joe Barry did nothing to endear himself to Packer fans when he stuck with ineffective four man rushes throughout the first half.  The strategy was largely responsible for enabling the Lions to control the ball and limit Green Bay to just three possessions in the first half.

 

Passes on the One Yard Line

It's one of my pet peeves.  Green Bay has first and goal at the one, and Matt LaFleur/Rodgers love to call pass plays.  They are often ineffective, and sometimes get picked off or stopped for losses.  Just run the dang thing over the goal line, as they did finally did with Aaron Jones in the fourth quarter.

 

 

AFTERTHOUGHTS

Aaron Jones:  "It's super special.  My dad always taught me as a man, it's how you respond to adversity.  How you respond is really what makes you a man.  So we responded well.  We played well.  We played at a high level." (packersnews.com)

 

Aaron Rodgers:  "Matt (LaFleur) dialed up some good schematic plays and he (Aaron Jones) just made a bunch of plays on his own.....we're one and oh in the division, so we feel good about things but it's early."   (espn)

 

 

THREE AND OUT

•  The Packers unleashed a new secret weapon in this game.  Tight end Robert Tonyan had already broken out as a downfield threat, but now he's a screen pass target.  The play is brilliantly designed, with Aaron Jones drifting off to the left, as though he is the screen receiver.  Rodgers looks his way, then turns to the right and flips to Tonyan with a cavalry of blockers in front of him.  The play clicked for gains of 22 and 11 yards.  Yet another thing that should drive future opposing defensive coordinators nuts when they watch the tape.

 

•  We have a Randall Cobb sighting!  Invisible in the first half, Cobb suddenly got the attention of Rodgers after intermission, catching three passes for 26 yards, the most important being a 15 yard reception on fourth and fourteen off a free play in the third quarter when the game was still close.

 

•  Allen Lazard may be a forgotten man when it comes to getting the ball thrown to him, but the team still relies heavily on his blocking.  He made two terrific blocks on the same play on Aaron Jones first touchdown.  His missed block in the second half got Davante Adams hammered.  It just goes to show how critical his execution is to the scheme.  

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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Mario Willis's picture

September 21, 2021 at 06:23 am

Let me go on the record early in the season saying: FIRE KEVIN KING! He is a liability on defense & though he has the ground speed he lacks the spatial reasoning and awareness to play anything. QBs are just looking for 20 on the field and targeting him.

Either Joe Barry pulls out a safety blitz or two & employs a spy or we are just waiting around for another mobile QB to step up in the pocket & break open our defense especially later in the season/playoffs.

I agree 100% that passes deep in the GOLD ZONE are going to be the ruin of our offense. Sometimes you have to pin your ears back and shove it down their throats.

Great Victory over the SOL (Same Old Lions)

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:26 am

I agree on your take on Kevin King.

However the Packers seem to be allergic to getting rid of him. Instead they moved him to the slot and he was actually decent there; not great, but decent. Maybe he has found his slot (pun intended)

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PatrickGB's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:43 am

I agree. Given his size and body type, one would think that he would be better outside. But he is reportedly better at press man coverage and looked better in the slot last night. Or maybe Stokes was just playing better outside. In any case I hope to see more of this in the future. It’s Kings last hope for playing time.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:48 am

Did you forget last season? The Packers scored on 80% of their red zone trips. They hardly ran the ball when they got down there. The passing game is great. We don't really have the push to gain one yard with all of our new rookies in the game so asking them to "run it in" is a bit of an issue even with Dillon in the backfield. When they saw him back there, the lions attacked and if not for his super-human strength he would've had 5 carries for 10 yards.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 21, 2021 at 06:38 am

I'm not sure how much Cobb played in the first half. All three of his receptions came on the drive that made the game 28-17. One was a 14 yard gain on a 3rd and 14. Big play. Cobb's last reception was for 9 yards on a 3rd and 7. Another important chain-mover.

At any rate, Amari Rodgers got relegated to STs only. Interesting.

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jont's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:44 am

Interesting but not totally surprising to see Amari getting very limited receiving opportunities. He's a rookie in a complicated offense.
Nice to see Cobb make a couple of important catches... I wonder if Tonyan would've been the target on those without Cobb on the roster?

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SanLobo's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:59 am

When Amari had return opportunities in ST, he was not decisive. Coaching should be able to fix that. Hill looked good in the return game. Cobb was barely on the field until the second half butwas there to make some key plays. That was good to see. Offense took what Detroit gave them and looked good. LaFleur’s post game comment that he told Barry to bring more pressure in the second half doesn’t build confidence in Barry’s ability to see what most everyone watching the game saw. Couple that with the fact he coached on the Rams and should have known Goff’s strengths and weaknesses intimately. Hope to see better out of a Barry Defense going forward.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:50 am

That's what this team has been missing. That viable, veteran, 3rd down presence that you typically find in a slot receiver. Nothing against MVS or Lazard or anyone else, but Cobb and Rodgers used to make a living off of broken plays and it came back to life on that drive. Sometimes having that security blanket is all you need.

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MarkinMadison's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:18 am

I'm not sure which was the bigger benefit: getting Stokes on the outside, or getting Sullivan off the field. Either way, Stokes gets a game ball in my book. He may have his ups and downs. I'm sure he'll get picked on. I'm also sure that if he is not starting on the outside by November this team will not go anywhere in the playoffs.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:34 am

The Lions have an odd catching corps. King actually matched up well against them in the slot. I doubt that’s true against more conventional line ups, but it was actually a positive move by Barry. If it caused Stokes to get playing time on the perimeter, it was a very beneficial one. Now, let’s think up something to get Slaton and Heflin actively involved.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 21, 2021 at 05:18 pm

Take the lumps with Stokes. He's the future. If you start that now, it might be closer to reality in January.

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porupack's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:35 am

Ken, awesome article. Many nuggets, but loved this one: >>>>this was his night. He will sell a lot of sunglasses if he keeps this up.<<<<
Loved your weather and lightning and flood game recap! Masterful.

I foresaw this beatdown, but didn't think it would involve still such pathetic defense. They should have come out of the gate looking for honor and revenge for last week. I didn't share the doomsayers all offseason, as I want observable evidence before pronouncing such things, but after 2 weeks, this D is bad. Yep. bad. Who cares whether its DC or players at this point. Meanwhile Detro's multiple rookies and no names on Defense were more than adequate to bottle up GB pass attack, and gladly GB obliged with the run game. But not lost is the fact that those rooks were more than capable of bottling up the pass attack, as Rodgers was sacked despite 5 second dropbacks and still unable to find receivers. Very stark contrast. Two weeks in a row of opposing D patchwork of backfield of no names, rooks or second stringers. My offseason prediction of 9 wins, is not looking very good, as even with this win, Ken, you rightly bring up the due concerns. The scoreboards by halftime for the next two weeks, will give us an indicator if GB has a chance this year, that is if GB has less than a 3 score deficit by half.

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Lphill's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:40 am

Why no Dillion again in the red zone to punch it in, Heflin needs to be activated , Lowery and Lancaster get pushed around like girls , Kevin King is God awful!

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Johnblood27's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:44 am

If Lowry cannot show up against the LOLions, the FO better be beating the bushes for some help right away.

Spend a little draft capital and trade for an established DL because KC is the invisible man when he is the only guy that needs to be accounted for.

Turn the DL flag upside down, there is serious distress there.

PS - demote Lancaster and play Heflin, you never know what you have until you use it. No loss in relegating Lancasters snaps elsewhere. TJ who? I saw his pic on a milk carton.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:36 am

Play Slaton at DT and Clark at DT and DE and have Heflin at DE (his position) as the default. Mix in Keke.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:09 am

FO brought in Taco Charlton and a no name DL man for tryouts.

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packer132's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:42 pm

Signed McIntosh today (DL) to practice squad who was drafted in 2018. Keep bringing in players to compete Gute.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 21, 2021 at 05:20 pm

Lancaster was getting rag-dolled by Frank Ragnow. Just plain awful. There is nothing to lose by trying the rooks if that is all he will be giving.

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marpag1's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:47 am

The Lions actually had more rushing yards and more passing yards than Green Bay, and the Lions look to be one of the worst teams in the league.

Obviously, I'll take the win, and I think things are going to get better, but I don't find this performance very much comforting at all.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:39 am

A large chunk of those rushing yards were from Goff late on. They actually didn’t do anything great from the RB spot. I do think the rumbles by Goff and Winston do suggest Barry needs to adjust. Those guys shouldn’t be getting those yards. As an opponent I’d be looking to exploit that if they can.

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Archie's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:16 am

Yeah, I get it, when you are playing the dregs, best to rely on your stars but at some point very soon (next week?) we will need Lazard and MVS making contributions or this offense will bog down again.

Aaron Jones - looked super quick.

Davontae - looked like his usual good self.

AJ Dillon - still underutilized.

AR - was perfect when throwing on 2nd & 3rd down.

Ahh, the defense. Joe Barry is waaaay too passive to be successful with the amount of talent he has on hand. First half was an abomination.

Would like to point out a couple of positives:

1 - Gutey came into draft needing to find a quality starting CB and C. Mission accomplished.

2 - ST: Well, we picked up a fine punter and Kylin Hill looked very natural as KR last night. A Rodgers seems to be coming along as PR as well. And Mo Drayton has the ST looking better overall. Still plenty of room for improvement but showing positive signs.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:41 am

The coverage units didn’t inspire my confidence last night.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:40 pm

I wasn't impressed with Rodgers as a returner. He looked slow.

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mrtundra's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:20 am

From the 3rd quarter on, our offense showed it can play with anyone, and they are just getting warmed up. MVS had zero catches but ARod overthrew him on every pass that went his way. You cannot blame MVS for that. Our Defense needs pass rush help. Gary was inconsistent but had a few QB pressures, at the end of the game. Clark and Slaton were no where near the QB most of the game. On one play our pass rush was nonexistent as two or three Lion's O Linemen had no one to block and were standing upright on the LOS, during the play. We need Zadarious back and healthy if we want any kind of pass rush. Garvin was used in coverage and did not rush the passer, from what I saw. Gary was suckered out of position, on a couple of plays, that went the other way, nullifying his talents. Campbell had a solid game. Maybe we finally have a LB worth his salt. Goff was able to burn our Defense with his running, on a couple of plays. No excuse for that. Barry has some work to do.

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Booner's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:22 am

Gute better pull his head out of his ass and find some help for the Defensive Line! Did they find Barry in the markdown bin at Walmart!

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:42 am

How about Barry plays Slaton and Heflin rather than Lowry and Lancaster?

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nygary's picture

September 21, 2021 at 02:07 pm

How did the FO not address the D.L. situation in the off season. Lowry and Lancaster sucked last year. What did they expect was going to happen.

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PeteK's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:22 am

Your criticism has poor timing, on a night where a rookie CB made some inspiring plays and the resigning of Jones was proven to be essential to our success.

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 21, 2021 at 08:47 am

Game Balls:

Aaron Jones - Just a beast. When he is involved good things happen. When he isn't involved, the offense struggles. I especially liked him with Dillon together. And using Jones in different ways. He is just special.

Davante Adams - He just makes some simple plays look so good. Rodgers and him just have a special connection.

Robert Tonyan - He had a good game catching passes. But he also drew a couple of big penalties. Tonyan is a guy that adds a lot to the offense. I think he is a guy they need to get the ball to more often.

Eric Stokes - I believe he was credited with 4 pass breakups. 2 of which were in the redzone. I think the defense played better when he got moved to outside corner, King got moved to the slot. Actually I thought King looked better in the slot. Moving forward I think our best CB group maybe Stokes and Alexander as the top 2. With King as the 3rd.

Lame Calls:

Joe Barry 1st Half - This was the 2nd game in a row where we saw little pressure from the front. I have no clue what defense they were playing, but it almost felt like they were attempting to keep Goff from running rather then going after him. It feels like they are doing a prevent style so they don't give up chunk yards. 2nd half was MUCH better. We saw some blitzes. Just a lot more pressure on the QB. The defense seemed more aggressive.
Another lame call was hearing that LaFleur had to tell Joe Barry what to do for the defense. Either play coverage or rush the QB. Because what he was doing wasn't working. Perhaps Barry doesn't know what LaFleur wants? But he needs to start improving.

Notes:

Cobb - He is starting to show up. And especially on 3rd down. I believe he caught 2 3rd down passes that converted 1st downs. That to me is where Cobb is going to help this team. Giving Rodgers someone else he completely trusts on 3rd down.

Runyan - I'm not expert on OL play, but I felt like Runyan played well. I personally think he should be our starting LG ahead of Patrick

MVS - Rodgers missed a bunch of bombs to him. But the one throw I would like to see MVS try to get the ball through the defender. If he tries to get the ball, he will likely get an interference call. I would like to see MVS be more aggressive to the ball.

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PeteK's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:14 am

Newman struggled again with a holding call and a missed drive block that sent him stumbling forward.

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dobber's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:35 am

"Runyan - I'm not expert on OL play, but I felt like Runyan played well. I personally think he should be our starting LG ahead of Patrick"

We'll have to see what PFF says, but I thought the IOL got stalemated a lot last night especially in the run game, and there was regular pressure up the middle on ARod.

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PeteK's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:45 am

More concerning for me was pressure from the outside which prevents him from scrambling and making those patented big plays.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:45 pm

Can Rodgers really scramble anymore? I’m not sure it’s a good idea with those broken collar bones. Another break and he’s done.

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RCPackerFan's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:08 am

I'm pretty sure I saw this morning that Runyan was the 4th highest rated offensive player? I can't remember who I saw posted that on the Twitter.

I felt Runyan was a lot better then Patrick. (not looking back at film or anything, just my gut feeling while watching the games. Some of the pressures, were they allowed because of Rodgers holding onto the ball? I know one of the sacks was last night.

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Since&#039;61's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:13 am

Game Balls: Rodgers, Jones, Tonyan, Myers, Stokes, Campbell, Amos and Gary.

Lame Calls: DC Barry??? King, Lowry and Lancaster.

Solid, much needed, bounce back win for the Pack. Now we need to get ready for the 49ers. Big challenge this Sunday evening. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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barutanseijin's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:47 pm

Gary? For what?

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Hematite's picture

September 23, 2021 at 01:56 pm

My thoughts exactly.
He, (Gary)
certainly hasn't looked good in my eyes so far this season.
But the season is still young so there is still hope.

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PeteK's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:39 am

--The passes to Adams on the sideline and TD to Tonyan were amazing, which make the over throws to MVS puzzling.
-- Loved the balanced attack on offense.
--Dillon will eventually make some big runs and will be a surprise weapon with his receiving ability.
-- O line not giving AR that extra second, roll outs might have to be used occasionally against Niners.
--Defense.....well Stokes gives us some hope.
--Too bad Hill is not used on punt returns.

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Curt's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:12 am

yeah - they mothballed the rollout right and pass shallow to tight end as after NO stopped it cold, but some new wrinkle will be needed to buy some more time.

Offense did well against a weak defense - not much running room, but Jones persevered and broke some tackles.

20 (early stumble), 21(mis-communication) and 59 (perfect pass) all gave up big gainers which needs to stop.

I think 8 will break a punt return so ok with him there and 32 on ko's

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Curt's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:39 am

Game really wasn't so much a statement win by GB, but a statement loss by Detroit. Both teams seem to have potential and have some talent, but Detroit just seems to implode at the most inopportune moments. Fumbled snap was turning point and QB dropping ball on pass attempt sealed it.

Both teams were hurt by penalties of the random nature (nobody knows what Defensive Pass Interference is, and Offensive Holding can be called on every play) - not quite as bad as the NBA where most calls are generated by the need for TV timeouts and other unknown random forces, but similar.

Bottom line is GB needs to improve on defense to get a couple stops every now and then -- very few negative plays for GB not initiated by the Detroit offense.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 21, 2021 at 05:25 pm

"but a statement loss by Detroit."

Great line. And spot on.

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ImaPayne's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:43 am

Never bitch about a win. Packers did what they had to do. For me the question was if the lions brain trust watched the NO game and came with a plan? When Goeff targeted King twice with success right off the get go my question was answered.
The D plan didnt work out. They didnt have the skill players on D like NO to shut down the passing game and put pressure on Rodgers.
King actually make one hell of a play in the endzone - maybe after seeing Stokes get time on the field he read his own tea leaves and decided I better step it up or I'm toast. Still after three or four seasons he looks like crap. He lacks speed and agility and smarts.

One important note: Detroit started TWO rookie corners rather then spend the capital on experienced players in the off season. My point. It showed, it costs two games because no one wanted to SPEND THE BUCKS ON TALENT

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PatrickGB's picture

September 21, 2021 at 09:49 am

When the head coach HAS to tell his DC how to adjust, then it’s a bad sign about the ability of the DC. In any case it improved in the second half. Barry may be a good position coach but he does not impress as DC.

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Curt's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:15 am

that is why there is a head coach and a coordinator.

don't mind the HC directing the coordinator - that's his job. I'd be more concerned if he just allowed same thing to happen and expected different results (ala McCarthy).

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LayingTheLawe's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:39 am

I am not sure which play was the key play of the game:

- the 50 yard pass to Adams on third and long

- the 4th down stop at the 25 when ahead by 4.

Maybe both. One offensive and one defensive play to get both sides of the team going.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 21, 2021 at 10:49 am

Games Balls: Jones, Stokes, Rookie OLinemen

Lame Call: Vanilla Defense, Rodgers hair, Defensive Ends.

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nostradanus's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:11 am

Game Ball:
*Whichever Coach planted their face into Stokes helmet! Classic!
*Rodgers, for playing within the scheme...mostly
*Jones-Adams-Tonyan, get it to your playmakers!
*Campbell, very active game by the ILB!
*Stokes, the kid looks like he's got "IT", that will be huge down the line!
*Special Teams, for not F'ing the game up
*Runyan, great fill in by the 2nd year guard!

Lame Calls
*Soft first half Defense, ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK! I witnessed way too many passive players waiting for the ball carrier to come to them instead of attacking!

*Pass Rush, come on Barry BRING IT! Turn them dawgs loose man even if you have to blitz, we want our Defense to CREATE HAVOC!

ND

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cheesehead1's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:22 am

We’ll only go as far as our D takes us. This has been the case for ten years now. Hope Barry has some tricks up his sleeve but so far the D looks rather familiar. First thing I would do is bench King.

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PeteK's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:25 am

Did anyone see when Barry head butted Stokes and then fell back out of the picture, Hahahaha. In my twisted humor,I thought that was hilarious.

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nostradanus's picture

September 21, 2021 at 07:28 pm

Classic! :)

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HarryHodag's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:40 am

Studs: A couple of you also agree, but the real heroes of the game are the offensive linemen. Last week they played poorly as a unit, but Monday night fixed the mistakes. With few exceptions, Rodgers was untouched. They opened holes for Aaron Jones. Remember there are two rookies starting(one at the critical center spot), a second year player(Runyon), Jenkins is out of position. The Lions d-front was not as good as New Orleans but, hey, we'll take it!

Duds: the Packers d-line. Kenny Clark is often double-teamed, and the other linemen simply get stuck at the line or pushed around. A high draft pick next year needs to be a meat-eating interior lineman who can provide a rush AND stop the run.

We'll find out how good the Packers are next week against San Fran, a NFC contender, then the Steelers the week after. Button your chinstraps!

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saltandpeppers's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:41 am

"Green Bay has first and goal at the one, and Matt LaFleur/Rodgers love to call pass plays. They are often ineffective, and sometimes get picked off or stopped for losses." What a strange comment. GB has made a killing with the short passing game inside the 5 under LaFleur. Conversely, their run game in those situations has been abysmal.

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jhtobias's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:45 am

The packers simply dont have the talent or ability to get penetration or stop the run with 4 defensive lineman period and that wont change.

1. Gute is the main culprit adding undrafted free agents and a 5th round draft pick is terrible but it is what it is.

2. Joe berry and lafluer better come to this conclusion and realize the rams defense wont work here in green bay they dont have the defensive line to pull this off.

3. They have a talented secondary minus king so use that gift create pressure and live with the gms lack of effort to bring in capable dlineman

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Tedlyflyfisher's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:52 am

Much better performance for game 2.

It was great to see Kylin Hill show something on kickoff returns. Punt returns with Amari are another story.

However, there is plenty to work on:

-DL is porous. Lancaster and Lowrey aren’t earning their keep.
-Not getting pressure on the opposing QB. Granted, Z didn’t play, but we need to dial it up.
-Is it just me or is this offensive line not getting much of a push on running plays? Granted, we have 2 rookies on the OL. Maybe that’s part of it, but that’s how it looks to me.

Maybe I need to be patient knowing that it’s a new DC and a new scheme? Not sure just how different the scheme is, but maybe it will take time to come together. still, it’s a little unsettling that LeFleur had to tell Barry to change tactics for the 2nd half. Shouldn’t Barry be able to see that for himself?

Go Pack, GO!

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ImaPayne's picture

September 21, 2021 at 12:11 pm

The coaching staff knows who writes their pay checks and arent about to bench King, or play Gary more so we can see he is not very good, is to make sure Gutt is not embarrassed and top management is not embarrassed for picking Gutt.
You pass on Watt because he cant play two positions and pick Gary at 12 to play two positions of which he isnt any good at either is beyond moronic, its destructive to creating a solid defense when you had the picks.
The people this team could have had on D and have now is mind boggling and costs them a few super bowls thats for sure.

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packer132's picture

September 22, 2021 at 02:32 pm

I've never seen you make a positive post, so you must not be a Packer fan.Coaches play the best players, despite where they were drafted. How many other teams passed on Watt? Packers had a need for a new cornerback and were set at LB. Many drafts don't work out. Packers drated 7 players this year who will start or contribute. Vikings had 11 draft picks this year and ZERO started on Sunday. I will put my money on Gute every year. He borught back 20 of 22 starters off a 13-3 team and somehow got under the salary cap.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:57 pm

Not all fans are rah-rah homer types. Some folks are glass half-empty types, but hey’re still fans.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

September 21, 2021 at 12:34 pm

Lowry, King, Lancaster, Sullivan... all have come in for criticism, and rightfully so but there is so much hope for Gary that he's escaping similar criticism. He's been a disappointment. He's not getting to the QB and against the run, he's been run around quite a bit. He's got great speed and power but he still can't seem to beat his man with any kind of consistency. Every now and then he makes a good play and everyone gets excited, then he disappears again.

The entire front seven is a disaster at this point. Gute is out there desperately looking for help but pass rushers and big uglies aren't available very often. Might need to make a major trade. Maybe some team in need of an offensive lineman with depth at DL might be interested in Patrick and I'd throw in MVS and Lazard and King and Lowry and Lancaster and Sullivan and Keke and Summers and Burks... there are an awful lot of bad football players on this team.

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Packers0808's picture

September 22, 2021 at 07:22 am

Get Stoked on Stokes and take away the crown of King! Like Sternberger cull him out!

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

September 21, 2021 at 11:43 pm

'Bobby Touchdown, that boy is sick
Throw one up, he's coming down with six'

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GP1's picture

September 23, 2021 at 02:08 am

Aaron Jones always lights it up against Lions type teams - hopefully he will do same against 49ers.
I'd like to see us persist with Jon Runyan.
MVS slows down when he looks up searching for the ball; which he does a lot. Rogers was covering for him.
Stokes looks like he will be a player. I hope Joe Barry starts to look and sound like a D.C. soon.

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