Packers 31 Dolphins 12: Game Balls & Lame Calls

The Green Bay Packers finally got a win.  They beat the Miami Dolphins 31-12 at Lambeau Field just as some flurries started to fall.

The win was much-needed for a Packers team reeling from two tough road losses.  They now head to Seattle on a short week.  

But before we move on to Seattle, let's look at the best and worst from this game.

Game Balls

Aaron Jones

Jones had 145 yards on 15 carries and two touchdowns.  Easy game ball.  Jones' burst through the first level may be one of the best in the game.

Finally the Packers used Jones appropriately and were handsomely rewarded.  An honorary game ball to Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers for calling 33's number often today.

Jones had the fumble gaffe last week, but since joining the team last season, he's been nothing short of spectacular.  

In this game, Jones was also an effective receiver, adding three catches for 27 yards.  Kudos again to Rodgers for getting Jones the ball and letting the dynamic back do the rest.

Pass Rush

Mike Pettine deserves a lot of credit for getting to Dolphins quarterback Brock Osweiler for six sacks and nine hits on the day.

Dean Lowry, Kenny Clark, Raven Greene, Reggie Gilbert, Kyler Fackrell and Montravious Adams all had sacks.  Clay Matthews added two hits on Osweiler as well.  Adams and Gilbert's sacks came back-to-back on Miami's last possession and gave the ball back to the offense to kneel out the clock.

I'm an ASU football fan so I know first hand how easy it can be to get to and disrupt Osweiler and the Dolphins were very banged up on the offensive line but credit Pettine and the Packers for doing what they should have in that scenario: hit the quarterback.

The Fake Punt

McCarthy was likely getting tired of watching his punt coverage team get beat on fakes and decided to call one of his own.  With that, I'm going on the assumption that it was McCarthy's call and not special teams coordinator Ron Zook's.

The direct snap to Raven Greene was executed brilliantly and got the conversion.  The Packers showing some moxie like this was long overdue.  

Raven Greene

A sack and a converted punt after being thrust into action due to injuries definitely deserves a game ball.  Greene has to be at least part of the reason the Packers were comfortable moving on from both Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Jermaine Whitehead in back-to-back weeks.

Let's see Greene have a big game against a better quarterback, yes, but he stepped up big in emergency duty in this game.  Not an easy task.

Lame Calls

Josh Jackson

Jackson had a tough stretch in the first half where he gambled on a throw and gave up a big catch and followed it up with a missed tackle for another big gain.  Throw in an illegal contact penalty and it wasn't Jackson's best day.

These are things that rookie cornerbacks go through and fortunately it didn't cost the team big.  Hopefully Jackson learns from it and can make good on future gambles.  

The Wave at Lambeau Field

Fans in the stadium, until you can be trusted to do the wave at the appropriate time (hint: not while the Packers are on offense), ye shan't do the wave anymore lest we ridicule you here.

Injuries. . Again

On a short week, one of the biggest needs for this team was to get out of this game healthy.  That just wasn't in the cards.

Kentrell Brice, Nick Perry, Bashaud Breeland, Jaire Alexander and Byron Bell all had injuries in this game.  Bell gutted his out and played through it.  Alexander was being evaluated for a concussion but he appears to be OK.

Perry and Brice both left and did not return so the assumption is that neither will be available in Seattle.  Brice's absence is big and will likely force some musical chairs for the Packers at safety this week.

 

Others to mention

  • Kenny Clark nearly led the team in tackles, had a sack.  And he's only 23 years old.  It won't be long before Clark is being mentioned along with Aaron Donald as one of the game's best
  • Josh Jones didn't look bad in this game.  That's going to be needed with Brice apparently out and with little depth at safety the rest of the way
  • Breeland with a nice pick on a bad throw by Osweiler.  The type of play the Packers brought Breeland in to make
  • Alexander with two passes knocked down.  Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst struck gold with Alexander and scored another first round pick to boot.  Huge win
  • Fackrell may not be bad.  It's time to strongly consider that a truity
  • Bryan Bulaga played an entire game and he has to still be hurting.  Kudos
  • Marcedes Lewis caught a pass and picked up some nice yardage.  These are actually the types of plays I thought the Packers acquired Lewis to make until it became apparent it was for his blocking.  Maybe something Lewis can contribute more as we head into the winter portion of the schedule
  • Tramon with the fumble on punt return.  It happens but disappointing from a vet who knows ball security and how to play smart football.  Hopefully a "one off"

 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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The TKstinator's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:11 am

Growing pains for Josh J, but he shows a lot of promise. I am fully confident he’ll learn from this game and come back better than ever.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:43 am

This team has 2 Josh J players.

Josh Jackson
Josh Jones

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The TKstinator's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:42 am

You are right!
I meant 37.

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dblbogey's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:24 am

I think Josh Jackson would be an excellent safety.

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November 12, 2018 at 11:37 am

I think he could too. However, at this point I trust Pettine in keeping him where he is.

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EdsLaces's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:20 am

Anyone else notice during the fumble how Jackson stood there and thought ..." maybe I should get that ...nah nevermind" haha.

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Packer Dave's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:21 am

Nick Perry is wasting our $$$.

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cpabandit's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:41 am

So is Matthews. Zero tackles yesterday, only 2 the week before.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:10 am

At least I see CM3 Perry has been all but invisible. CM3 is frustrating because you see him hitting Osweiler just as the ball comes out. Even though it doesn't count as a sack it has led to the QB throwing before he's ready and forced some incompletions. Not worth the $ amount he's being paid this year but at least he's been consistently on the field.

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November 12, 2018 at 10:23 am

Cut him, or pay him $3 million and move him inside. Clay isn't an edge rusher anymore.

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The TKstinator's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:43 am

Isn’t that a “hurry”?

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dblbogey's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:26 am

Well, he's been playing hurt. He's always hurt. I think we can cut him after the year without much damage in dead money. I hope that's correct, because he's just a slug.

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GVPacker's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:34 am

A Rod's still not running on all cylinders! Is A Rod's current funk the result of two injuries to the same collarbone within the space of 5 years? Not enough playing time during preseason? The knee sprain suffered during the home opener? Utter frustration with Mike McCarthy's play calling?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:04 am

He isn't running on all cylinders. But he IMO took a step in the right direction.

I think a lot of it has been the lack of practice time. He hasn't had the time to build a rapport with Graham, MVS, St Brown, Moore. Hence why we have seen some frustration on the field.

I thought his throws looked better. He was getting it out fast, on time and had some zip on his throws.

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Cubbygold's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:15 am

Yeah they talked about this during the broadcast. 12 not practicing has made his usual success while scrambling non-existent. But, rather than acknowledge and adapt, the play caller continues to beat his head against the wall

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:45 pm

I think the fact that he has a roomful of WR/TE who haven't played with him hurts, not just because he doesn't know them, but because they don't know ARod, how he extends plays, and what they need to do when he does.

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MITM's picture

November 12, 2018 at 05:43 pm

Absolutely. MVS, ESB(has this been used yet?) Lewis and Graham all being brand new this season certainly plays a part in some of what we have seen so far for several reasons

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:24 am

They were opposite collarbones.

I would like to think that #12 isn't dogging it to get MM fired. That wouldn't bode well for the next HC and the prospects of things getting better with time.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:47 pm

One thing that I think thats an issue with Rogers is weight training. He's never been an overly muscular guy and I know he's got a very strong arm but he's also getting banged up by a lot of people.Wouldn't hurt to put a little more muscle on him.

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MITM's picture

November 12, 2018 at 05:54 pm

Ehhh im not sure about that, I think the reasons for him getting banged up are whats been discussed ad nauseam (holding on to the ball, better protection etc etc) I would even go as far as to say even that he is slightly more muscular than guys like Brady and Brees , and Joe Montana in his playing days makes Rodgers look like Rambo

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:31 pm

Oh I know why he is banged up. Brees, I dunno, but I see your point. Getting stronger to offset age and to better withstand hits would certainly help.

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Slim11's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:35 am

I believe the first break was on the left side. Last season was to the right side. The break on the right side did affect his throwing last season. When he came back against Carolina, his throws seemed to be short. Several passes were under thrown.

Everyone seems to believe he’s a little off this season. His arm strength may be affected by the collarbone injury and/or the knee injury is still hampering him. I was at the Detroit game and he’s not at full speed. Hopefully, the “mini-bye” after Seattle helps him and the rest of the team.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:14 am

I think it's more than just physical with Rodgers. There were a lot of changes in the offense in the offseason. New QB coach, "new OC", "new playbook", no Nelson, rookie WRs, Graham. Cobb has hardly been healthy and has had 1 good game all year. GB actually has a RB now. Adams was the stable piece through this transition. Hopefully Rodgers is more aware of what we have on offense and it starts clicking. We've seen glimpses all year of just how many weapons Rodgers has and if he learns to use them effectively I don't see how you stop the Packer offense.

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:46 pm

There's one major common denominator between the last awful #12 year and this year: Olivia Munn and Danica Patrick. I don't like to cite that kind of issue because everyone deserves to be happy, but is it really coincidence?

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Skip greenBayless's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:18 pm

I think there's a lot to that Dobber. Look at what happened to Roy Hobbs in The Natural when he chose the wrong woman. Hitting home runs all over the place then he meets some blonde bombshell and suddenly he's striking out and looking lackluster. Rodgers seems to play better when he's not dating some Hollywood celebrity or race car driver. Maybe he needs to go back to being single or maybe date the farmer's daughter. I am sure there's tons of pretty young attractive farm women in WI. Could Rodgers sign up on that farmers dating site? Hell I met Ellie May years ago and I think everyone would agree she was pretty hot. We hit it off on the first date. Critters and all.

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MITM's picture

November 12, 2018 at 06:01 pm

I live in NYC and alot of my friends are diehard Rangers fans and all of them HATE Olivia Munn. The story goes something like she was dating one of the Rangers who previously had been one of their better players - she came in the picture and his play took a turn for the worse. She dumped him I believe and messed him up so bad that he was almost useless after that and was off the team or traded not long after.

I dont think Brady ever declined even a little once he started dating Gisele though

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:33 pm

"I dont think Brady ever declined even a little once he started dating Gisele though"

Would anyone?

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November 12, 2018 at 08:02 pm

Such a sad sad real life Roy Hobbs story MITM. Yeah, women can definitely screw up a man's life and vice versa. It's all about chemistry. To me it seems almost like Aaron is forcing himself or being told too by his agent to date these well known figures for whatever reason. It's really odd because you don't see a lot of that in the NFL. Typically most NFL players marry their high school sweetheart or someone they dated in college. Rodgers is out acting like he's Rock Hudson or George Clooney. It's fine if you are in Hollywood and believe me I've been around them all but Rodgers is just a guy who throws a football. I say date someone nobody knows or cares about and quit trying to be so Hollywood. You'll be much more happy.

Dash

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GVPacker's picture

November 13, 2018 at 07:07 am

That was Brad Richards!

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Norm's picture

November 13, 2018 at 04:19 pm

Did ya take her swimmin' in the ceement pond?

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realitybytez's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:24 am

he may not be firing on all cylinders, but he's still got 17 tds vs 1 int. so he isn't hurting the team. it's his accuracy that "seems" to be a little off because of the uncharacteristically low completion percentage. but i truly believe that at least part of the reason for the incomplete passes is that he has several new receivers who don't always seem to be on the same page as rodgers. mvs is starting to emerge as a reliable #2 receiver, which is great news since cobb has been completely useless and moore was apparently a waste of a draft pick.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:34 am

Reality it's too early to callMoore a waste of a draft pick. Davante Adams took years to get where he's at. At the moment what we can say is MVS had a higher floor than any of us thought. A lot of Packer fans though all 3 WEs would come in raw and take a few years to emerge. MVS has proved us wrong and that's awesome. ESB has been more ready to play than Moore but not at the same level as MVS. Can't wait to see how the trio looks in 2019 Moore might surprise you give the guy some time. Even if he was ready in 2018 Moore not being ready to start isn't what is holding this offense back.

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GVPacker's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:26 am

My bad I thought it was the same side. I just wanted to find out what you esteemed Cheesehead's think has happened to #12!

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:35 pm

I think your point is well-taken though: it's going to take him longer to come back from injury as he gets older, and current data suggests he might not get back.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

November 13, 2018 at 05:07 pm

He just needs a Brazilian supermodel to get himself sorted out, like T. Brady.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:49 am

Game Balls -

Aaron Jones - Easiest choice all season long.
I have been high on Jones since they drafted him. He has had flashes of what he can do. But yesterday was the first time he really got his opportunity to show what he can do for a full 4 quarters.

Mike Pettine - Pettine just knows how to confuse QB's. I loved the 8 person blitz. Greene looked really fast coming off the edge on that.

Lame Calls -

Injuries. Already without King, we at one point in the game lost Breeland and Alexander. Though after the game Alexander said he passed the concussion testing. So hopefully he will be good for Thursday.

Going into Seattle we could be really thin at CB.

Notes -

Speaking of CB I really like Tony Brown. He has made some mistakes but looks really good IMO. He has some good potential.

Rodgers looked better. Not perfect, but despite his numbers he looked better. His throws were coming out faster, and his throws simply looked better. He looked like he had more zip on his passes. It was a really good strep in the right direction.

Jones was Great. But I hate how they rotate the RB's. That is my biggest issue with McCarthy. They rotate receivers down after down. Why can't they have Jones essentially be the first and 2nd down RB and have WIlliams be the 3rd down RB. A rotation more like that. Vs doing it by series. I hate how they do that.

Fackrell - All the guy does is gets sacks and make plays? I have ridden him hard but he is starting to prove me wrong and show why the Packers kept him. While he still isn't great, he at least isn't completely horrible anymore.

Trevor Davis - With Williams Fumble, I am thinking there is no bigger winner then Davis. Wouldn't it be glorious it if he returned on for a TD Thursday night?

Great win. After 2 close losses on the road, a good team win was what they needed. Hopefully it will set them on the path to win many games!

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BoCallahan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:00 am

You consider a 14 point loss to the Pats a close loss?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:05 am

It was a closer game then the final score.

They had the ball and was moving to take the lead in that game. until they fumble the ball.

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realitybytez's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:25 am

it was close. until it wasn't. the fumble was the turning point.

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:26 am

"While he still isn't great, he at least isn't completely horrible anymore."

This sounds vaguely similar to what my wife said when I asked her to marry me...

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pacman's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:11 am

Tramon's fumble - he got hit really hard in the front and stripped of the ball from behind. Reminded me of tough D when Ripkowski got stripped of the ball last year in a pile of defenders. How come we don't do that? We used to! Can it be that Pettine could learn something from Capers? Scary.

Lame call - refs again on the Equanimeous hit. It was a frontal hit on a running defender, not a blind side hit and not with the helmet. If you can't hit them low and can't hit them hard, what's left? We really need penalty reviews and/or challenges. I'm curious of other opinions.

AR underthrowing players again - (EQ, dump offs). I wonder if any of the 'bad' playing by AR is due to Philbin. There is absolutely no reason for AR to throw the ball away like that in a game like this. Let him throw it to someone running cross field or back to him so there is not chance of a pick. He has put the ball in such tight windows before. Can he no longer do that? Is there a stat to how long AR has been holding the ball this year?

Nice to have a win but it won't mean anything unless we beat the Seahawks.

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November 12, 2018 at 08:49 am

It was a correct call. You can bitch all you want about wussy football but that call is going to be made 100% of the time in the 2018 NFL. If this would be 2010 and Heinz Ward would've made that block against a Packer CB we'd all be calling him a dirty player and want him suspended for life.

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daveinTX's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:28 am

In my eyes the defender ran into a stationary offensive player. The offensive player only raised his arm to protect himself. The only other option the offensive player/blocker had was to get out of the path of the defender and allow the defender to strike the ball carrier in the back.

I think it was a bad call. The defender should bear some responsibility for running into a player if he is not paying attention to other players in front of him. JMHO

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murphy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:38 am

I don't really like the call, but I agree that it's a call that will be made every time in 2018, especially when the refs are seeing it only at game speed.

I have no idea how anyone could be blaming the defensive player for running into the offensive player, or how anyone could watch the replay and say that it wasn't a 100% intentional hit.

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fthisJack's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:39 am

i don't know...it looked to me like EQ ran in front of the guy and he didn't see EQ and ran headfirst smack into him and knocked himself out.

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PeteK's picture

November 12, 2018 at 04:37 pm

true, have seen that penalty many times. As announcer said should shield.

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Colin_C's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:58 am

I understand that at this point they're probably going to call that every time, but I disagree with the call. Like you said, it was from the front, and the defender was an active part of the play. No reason that should be a foul. Sometimes when you play a collision sport, big hits happen.

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:48 pm

"Nice to have a win but it won't mean anything unless we beat the Seahawks."

They're close to being in that mode the rest of the way, just insert name of next opponent...

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 07:37 pm

And how fitting is it that it will be their first return to Seattle since "2014" .

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November 12, 2018 at 07:40 pm

McCarthy's earlier steadfast determination to use a running back by committee approach was viewed by some as a reasonable approach,one to avoid injury and to feature different looks and styles. But MM didn't do that anyway and of course our eyes and instincts were correct. It really was classic MM,not wanting to commit ,feeling his way,using a particular back on any given day. But to me it is being indecisive in the face of reason. And for all the idiots and especially MM, who worry and maintain that it was all about keeping players fresh,what about that now? Same can now be said for Lewis. That was one of if not the best plays by a TE since Cook. Shame, we wasted so many games discovering the obvious.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:41 am

My biggest complaint from yesterday is their continued rotation of the RB's.

I don't get/like the give Jones the series give, Williams the other series... Now they didn't do that much, but yesterday in the 2nd quarter they gave Williams a whole series and they did nothing on offense.
I want to see a rotation of ever 4-5-6 plays Jones comes out and Williams comes in for 2-3 plays. So basically Jones gets 5 plays to Williams 2-3. They rotate WR's, TE's regularly. Why can't they do that with RB's?

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November 12, 2018 at 09:36 am

Agreed. Jones was gassed after that 60 yard run, yet M3 left him in at the goalline for the tough yards. Made absolutely no sense to me, other than wanting to let Jones score the TD he deserved. Bot, I seriously doubt that is why M3 left him on the field. In the HC’s mind Jones was going to play the first two series, beginning to end. Stubborn and stupid. My appreciation of M3 has tailed off into disgust more and more often. And I have been a longtime supporter of him remaining as the HC. Not now.

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November 12, 2018 at 10:32 am

if you ask me, it just doesn't look like mccarthy has his head in the game at all. i think he needs to go. sooner rather than later. if we lose the seattle game i would not have a problem with firing mccarthy midseason.

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realitybytez's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:33 am

double post.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:54 pm

Exactly. RC

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:34 am

Carries for A. Jones: 15
Carries for J. Williams: 3

Targets for A. Jones: 5
Targets for J. Williams: 0

Doesn't sound like much of a RBBC to me.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:42 am

perfect ratio honestly.

my complaint is taking Jones out for complete series.

Jones should not be removed from any series moving forward. He has become a threat every time he touches the ball, that taking him off the field for an entire series is not smart.

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Spud Rapids's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:58 am

Even Todd Gurley gets a series off from time to time

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November 12, 2018 at 11:05 am

does he? or does he get a couple plays off here and there? i don't know the answer, so i guess you could be right.

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:37 pm

There are several backs out there who sit on obvious passing downs for exactly the reason #33 would sit: he's an inferior blocker to Williams.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:56 pm

Never was a rbbc. Just a group to select the back of the day from.

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November 12, 2018 at 01:56 pm

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November 12, 2018 at 04:46 pm

Kiss of death. As for Lewis, it was a surprise play. I wish he was fleet of foot like Cook.

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November 12, 2018 at 08:41 am

Is it possible to love the win and still want the head coach gone at the end of the year, because that's where I am.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:28 am

Why root for the team to win at that point?

If the Packers won the Super Bowl, would you still want the coach gone?

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November 12, 2018 at 09:18 am

:)

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November 12, 2018 at 11:07 am

Don't worry, it's not going to happen.

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November 12, 2018 at 08:57 am

Loving the win and still wanting the HC fired is simply rebelling against the Marvin Lewis,Jason Garrett, Jeff Fischer etc effect....going nowhere fast ...running in place while the stage scenery changes.

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November 12, 2018 at 01:59 pm

Yes Caruso,it is. Lose to Seattle in anything less than a hard fought game, and I'm ok with an early Christmas present.

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Since'61's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:10 am

Maybe, just maybe, this team is starting to figure some things out. Maybe it was because they were playing at home against the Dolphins.

The defense looked good yesterday even with injuries during the game. They were given a short field on at least three occasions and they held the Fish to FGs. Capers D would have folded on some of those
occasions. Tramon had a fumble on the punt return but he looked solid at safety. Raven Green as well. Breeland and Tony Brown contributed also. Better players.

Time to move CM3 inside with Martinez and give the OLB snaps to Fackrell and Gilbert.

As for the offense; Aaron Jones, Adams and MVS enough said.

Special teams, fire Zook and move on already.

Can we take this show on the road and win in Seattle on a short week? Tough challenge. Unnecessary TNF.
I hate TNF, it waters down the quality of play and risks injuries but off we go. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:30 am

In this case, the Packers and Seahawks know each other well. The prep shouldn't be much of an issue, but the recovery will...

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November 12, 2018 at 09:33 am

" Time to move CM3 inside with Martinez and give the OLB snaps to Fackrell and Gilbert."

If I was Matthews, I'd be pounding on MM's desk to be moved inside as my FA contract value is dwindling with every snap as an OLB...Matthews is being snap counted out of relevance and is giving Perry a run for his title....
Irrelevant...Invisible.

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stockholder's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:48 am

They have figured it out. It's time the fans figured it out too. Dump MM and you stop the growth of this team. Even with injuries, the question is whats next. More Loses or continued growth. Count me in coach. Finally you have some players with Fire inside again. Confidence is high. Keep it going. All eyes are on Green Bay.

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Demon's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:35 am

McDoughnuts didnt exactly reinvent the wheel yesterday stockholder. He did what any highschool coach would have done. He ran the most exciting back that the Pack has had since A Green.

The question most of us would like to know is WTF took you so long?

Your blind loyalty to MM is sickening!! Excuse me while I go Vomit!

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Demon's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:42 am

Im waiting for stockholder to praise Zook next. Another person that is terrible at his job as many of MM's assistant coach hires have been.

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PeteK's picture

November 12, 2018 at 04:53 pm

Waiting for the tornado to hit the mountain. I guess you didn't pay attention to the great coverage on one of the best returners in the league or the improved punting and kicking.

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Packers0808's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:04 am

Agreed about TNF! What a waste and not enough turnaround time for players especially to heal!

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:39 pm

There's enough film of CMIII inside that his prospects in the middle (and he's played off-ball a fair amount when he hasn't purely been inside) that I don't think not playing inside hurts his prospects there. Frankly, the Packers are so shy on bodies at OLB with Perry hurt that there's no way he moves inside unless they sign/promote someone.

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Packer_Fan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:27 am

Better game for the Pack. Aaron Jones makes the offense look so much different. I thought Jones, Greene and Brown played well. Martinez is a sure tackler. Now.... some issues:

On the one third and two or fourth and two where they kept Graham in to block the defensive end. What gives? If Graham would have run a flat route, first down. Instead, hand over the ball on downs.

Josh Jackson keep messing us. Offside on a field goal, illegal contact and as noted a few bad plays. He is gonna hurt the Pack again.

Special teams. Fumble, holding penalty that negated a nice return. Block punt. What can you say? They stunk, even with the fake punt. What can be done? Something has too.

Why is MM and the coaches holding some of these young players back? It is now nine games into the season and MM keeps platooning Jones and Williams????? Like he knows something different?

Without Jones, MVS and some of these other young players, the Pack won't make the playoffs. Eliminate the cerebral plays for the wideouts. Use simpler patterns and plays Use all your weapons and players. Aaron Rodgers, plan on completing 5 or 6 checkdowns a game to backs. That's what Favre did and it keeps the third downs much more manageable. All it takes is to have one or two more series be scoring.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:15 am

"On the one third and two or fourth and two where they kept Graham in to block the defensive end. What gives? If Graham would have run a flat route, first down. Instead, hand over the ball on downs."

That play made no sense to me. Was Graham supposed to chip the DE and let him go and go for a pass or fully block him? It made no sense because Bulaga had no one to block. When they needed 2 yards Graham could have released and turned around and caught the pass for a 2 yard gain, no problem.

I'm assuming that he chose to block thinking that there was a blitz on and Rodgers was going to get rid of the ball fast to someone else?

That was the one playcall during the game I hated. Whether it was poorly executed or poor design, I don't know.

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Rick1's picture

November 12, 2018 at 09:36 am

This is the game that will tell if MM can evolve and run the ball to help 12 get better rhythm and get that pass game hitting on cylinders!!!

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Packers0808's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:02 am

Anyone see where Jordy Nelson is expected to announce his retirement from the NFL today. Packers did it seems trade him away at the right time!

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marpag1's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:33 am

Love Jordy, but he was finished a few years ago. There was no burst, no speed, no nothing left to his game except chemistry with ARod on the back shoulder 10 yard outs. The Packers absolutely did the right thing by moving on.

Jordy had one massive game this year (against these same Dolphins) and he's been virtually non-existent in all the others. Admittedly, the Raiders are a Division III team right now, but still.

I heard he was injured in the last game as well, but I don't know anything about that.

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dobber's picture

November 12, 2018 at 12:40 pm

"Admittedly, the Raiders are a Division III team right now, but still."

I think there are some D-III teams that would take offense at that.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:35 pm

Yes, it was absolutely the right move. Jordy couldn’t pull off the double moves any more and separation vanished. The chemistry between QB and WR/TE is great but it takes a while for that to develop. When it does, and the young receiving corp knows where, when and what to do, it will be special. MVS is getting there. The others will grasp it probably in 2029 summer camp.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 12, 2018 at 01:44 pm

2019. Hope it doesn’t take another 10 years!!

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Jonathan Spader's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:23 am

They cut ties with Sitton at the right time as well. He missed time with Chi and now with Miami as well. Lane Taylor isn't pro bowl caliber but he's consistently available and is affordable.

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November 12, 2018 at 02:24 pm

If we kept Jordy than either MVS, ESB, Moore, or Kumerow probably get cut. The NFL is and always will be a young man's game. Some defy the odds but not many. MVS is turning into an absolute superstar because he's been allowed some playng time because Jordy isn't here. Think next season how deadly and lethal he'll be now that we are getting a sneak preview. Now think of him doing this on MN because we kept Jordy and cut MVS. Now Jordy retires and we have nothing and MN has our superstar. It was a great and gutsy move by Gute. Fans loved Jordy but lots of fans now love MVS.

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cheesehead1's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:11 am

Good win, now two more tough road games. The seasons on the line here. Also, Perry hurt yet again. I can’t see him back next year. Some players are either injury prone or just unlucky. Kevin King also comes to mind. You have to be available.

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November 12, 2018 at 10:18 am

Obviously, I'm happy for the win, because...

A) It's a win, dammit, and
B) You can't "stack success" (as MM likes to say) without having success to start with.

But...

The 'Phins played without 4 of 5 O-line starters, featured a 35 year old running back, and trotted out Brockenstein as their starting QB. If we lost 80% of our O-line and had our backup QB in the game, we'd probably use that as an excuse for losing to the Arizona Cardinals. And we'd probably consider ourselves fortunate if we surrendered "only" six sacks. The Packers darn well better win the game at home under those circumstances.

Also, I'm fully on board with the idea that Aaron Jones is "the guy" at RB and that we need to ride him a little more going forward. But let's be honest... some of those holes were good enough that BJ Raji could have scored a first down at a minimum and maybe more.

Agreed that ST are a big ol' turd right now. Also agreed that ARod still isn't ARod. And he's got to own up to it. Some throws are clearly off, and you simply can't convince me that EVERY TIME there is some sort of miscommunication it is ALWAYS the other guy's fault and never ARod's. Having said that, there's little doubt that the Packers have been hurt by the fact that Cobb and Allison have been non-factors all year (even when they are on the field), and probably will continue to be.

I didn't like the roughing call on ESB, but he's gotta know that he will get flagged for that every time in today's NFL. He could have accomplished the same result if he had just shoved the guy to the ground without obliterating him. Like I said... I don't like it, but it's the reality.

Anyhow, the win is a start... I hope. Now let's see if we can knock off Seattle on the road after a short week. I'll be a little more pumped if and when that happens.

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The TKstinator's picture

November 13, 2018 at 06:09 am

35 year old Frank Gore played really well.

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bodei1newbie1's picture

November 12, 2018 at 10:50 am

thumbs up for the team a big thumbs up for DC

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Sam Freeman's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:23 am

True.... it was a really strong wave though. And probably as a result that it was the only convincing win of the year....

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Cubbygold's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:24 am

1 - While it seems Gute made the right call with Jordy, it's inexcusable that Graham is averaging 2/30 since the buy week.

2 - The team doesn't need Cobb, or Perry, or Matthews. That's a lot of money that Gute can reallocate next year. Can't wait to see what he does with it.

3 - why isn't jahri evans on this team?

4 - i would love to see data on the average starting position from a kickoff. It can't be materially better than the 25 yard line, and Id take the under on that bet. So for the 1/100 chance that a kickoff turns into a TD, GB is going to risk fumbling on every return. I don't know why every kickoff isn't allowed to be a touchback. Risk/reward isn't there

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Pierre's picture

November 12, 2018 at 11:56 am

Yes, Miami was a very undermanned team that had no business being down at only 14-9 at halftime. Once again Rodgers had an unimpressive first half with only one multi play drive for a TD, when you consider Jones ran most of the field before the other TD in the first half. Rodgers still missing too many receivers and throwing the ball out of bounds. I saw receivers open he just wasn’t throwing to against Miami and instead took a sack or threw the ball out of bounds. He’s so afraid of picks he does not throw into tight windows like he previously did. Not sure why. Someone said Rodgers has 17 TDs and only 1 pick so he’s not hurting the team. I disagree, as anytime he’s throwing the ball out of bounds or taking a sack on third downs he’s giving the ball back to the opponent and having one less scoring opportunity. He should be more aggressive throwing to receivers who have a step on their defenders to make plays on the ball a lot more often. Boasting about career low interception rates is meaningless if you are only going to the SB once in 12 years and continually losing to the playoff caliber teams...every single year.

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November 12, 2018 at 12:04 pm

Absolutely. Usually when someone is succeeding at a rediculous rate, it means they're not taking enough risk. Didn't Bradford set some type of record for completion percentage with the vikings? Hard to knit-pick the NO offense, but when Thomas has caught like 60/68 passes, it means he can be challenged more.

Seems like rodgers views interceptions as 20x worse than sacks. Like you say, they can be nearly as damaging. Likely a trust issue with the young recievers

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calabasa's picture

November 12, 2018 at 04:38 pm

Makes me KINDA miss the ol’ Wrangler Dangler, who as well know, wasn’t afraid to throw 3 4th-quarter picks to bring the Pack back. It worked more than once...and made for some exciting football. Better that than Death by 1,000 throwaways...

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Curt's picture

November 12, 2018 at 08:33 pm

First half, I thought GB was out played, out coached, and lucky to have a lead - had all the mistakes i complain about:
1. give ball to opposing team to start despite then playing from behind the whole game (turnover saved GB this time)
2. resting hot RB for entire series as Gannon was saying you feed the hot guy,
3. penalties and turnovers on special teams,
4. picking wrong time to be aggressive at mid-field and giving away FG
5. calling time out in last minute giving MIA chance to move the ball down the field (they fortunately had an overthrow on an easy long gainer / likely TD so didn't cost points)
6. being out schemed on #4 and playing pretty flat with little emotion.

Fortunately they have to play two halves and MIA is not very good with Brock at QB.

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Gman1976's picture

November 12, 2018 at 03:13 pm

Love the word "truity" That's genius

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

November 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm

Packers HAVE to win the rest of their games. They have screwed around losinf ALL 4 away games!!

Stop throwing the ball away...39+ throw aways Aaron....My lord t will be 80 by the end of the year. That right there is easily giving 4 losses at 20 throws per game just throwing the ball away.

Make something happen !!

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