Packers 21 Bears 13: Game Balls & Lame Calls

Somehow, an uglier win than last week's

Another ugly win for the Packers, 21-13 over the Chicago Bears in the regular season home finale.  Despite doing everything they could to give the Bears a chance to steal a win, the Packers rolled across the finish line somehow, still ahead on the scoreboard. 

There's plenty to be concerned about as far as what Green Bay did on the field but, by now, we can't act surprised that this was how it went down.  The Packers are 11-3 and will stay in the 2-seed in the NFC for another week.  On to the day's good and not-so-good.

Game Balls

Dean Lowry

A huge interception on a batted ball late in the fourth quarter as Chicago drove to try and tie.  Big time play by an unexpected guy in that situation.

Davante Adams

103 yards and a score coming on an incredible fourth down catch and run.  Too bad none of what Adams did happened in the second half of this game.

Tyler Ervin

Ervin's tenure with the Packers is just two weeks old and he already has the team's longest punt and kick returns of the season.  Ervin's 45-yard return in the second quarter gives hope that special teams can produce something and, outside of the place kicker, isn't a liability to an otherwise successful team.

Kenny Clark

Clark had two sacks on the day, one of which was hard-earned as he chased Mitch Trubisky down along the sideline.  Trubisky can run so that's no small accomplishment.

Clark has been on fire since just before the bye and he just shows up big week in and week out.

Lame Calls

Marquez Valdes-Scantling

First play from scrimmage for the Packers, Aaron Rodgers throws a catchable deep ball and Valdes-Scantling alligator-armed it.  A catch puts Green Bay in immediate scoring territory, sets a tone and puts the Bears defense on their heels.  Instead, the Packers carried on and ended up punting on the drive.

MVS never moved himself into that true #2 receiver spot this season and it's unlikely he's suddenly going to figure it out.  After a promising rookie campaign, he's looking like a guy that could be on the bubble if this head-scratching play carries into next training camp. 

Thank goodness for Allen Lazard stepping up or this receiver corps, minus Davante Adams, looks like a group from the local YMCA.

Tramon Williams 

Tyler Ervin was being tended to in the locker room so Williams stepped in on an early punt return.  On a ball Williams was tracking, in the sun, he failed to call for a fair catch as the Bears punt coverage is bearing down (pun intended).  Chicago's Cordarrelle Patterson blew Williams up, causing the ball to come loose.  Fortunately, Patterson was flagged for interference and the Packers retained the ball.

A lot is happening in real time but Williams is a 14-year veteran.  He has to protect himself and the ball.  He did neither.  Fortunately, Williams returned and was OK and Ervin returned and made a lot more of his opportunities.

Williams then had a hold in the fourth quarter on third and long, keeping a Bears drive alive.

Aaron Rodgers

How dare I, right?  Our man, our hero, a "Lame Call"?  Blasphemy!  No, it's time.  Listen, Rodgers is still a darn good quarterback.  A great quarterback and give me him over all but maybe three or four other guys right now.

That said, AR is looking more and more unable to guide this offense for an entire game.  The sack he took was really bad.  Aaron Jones struggling to hold his block is right in front of Rodgers' face and he stands there, not doing anything to move around and give himself a chance to throw it away.  Last week, Rodgers admitted that had he slid over, he may have hit a few more passes against Washington.  

That took me back to Ryan Kerrigan's sack last week on a 3-man rush when Rodgers wandered right into his grasp.  The awareness has been abysmal of late and I have to think his feet are failing him.  We all love 12 but he's not what he used to be.  Nothing is automatic anymore and he's just as much of the problem as anyone else who's not carrying their weight.  

There will be the usual contingent in the comments who simply chalk it up to a learning a new offense and asking why we can't just be happy the Packers won.  To the rest, we're seeing another example of how things change as time goes on in a top athlete's career.

On the late 3rd-and-5, Rodgers rolls left and the play is covered by Chicago's defense so he has no choice but to slide.  He wasn't running incredibly hard and several Bears defenders coming at him probably wasn't very appetizing so sliding may have been his best choice.  Keeping it on the ground was ideal to keep the clock rolling so maybe that's why no quick pass or throw downfield.   The receivers aren't what Rodgers has had in the past, but it's just odd that a Rodgers-led offense can't be more clutch in that spot.

Packers 4th Quarter Offense

All g. . wait.  Gauge says "empty".  A really, really bad finish on that side of the ball.

Packers Tackling on the Last Snap

This lame call all depends on what you want from this year's Packers.  Some say it's harsh, the defense was absolutely gassed and "who cares, they won".  The Bears didn't score but gassed or not, teams that are going deep in the postseason aren't struggling to end that effort. 

 

Others to mention:

  • Jaire Alexander nearly got a lame-o for not batting down the deep ball in the end zone.  Oldest concept in football: just knock it down
  • Too many "almost" interceptions.  Spare me the "give them a break, it's cold" garble.  Catch. The. Football
  • Pass rush disappeared in the second half and Trubisky ran all over the place extending plays.  Guys were gassed but the best teams still find a way to make plays.  Again, no killer on this defense to count on late
  • Tramon's holding and Bryan Bulaga's hold in the fourth quarter were killers

 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:24 am

Rodgers: Just needs to break some bad habits. What's killing him is the little things on the mental side, not his physical limitations.

Tramon: He's 38, of course he is holding. I'd be trying to tackle WRs at the LOS if I was 38.

Kenny Clark: Pay that man his money. Yesterday.

Defense being gassed: Of course they were gassed. The offense did zero for them in the fourth quarter. The Lowry interception should have resulted in a field goal that iced the game (at a minimum). Instead the defense was thrown back out there (repeatedly) after not enough time to drink a cup of H2O.

MVS: Ugh. Just ugh.

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Bure9620's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:58 am

They were gassed, defending 83 plays will do that

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fthisJack's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:27 am

yup....it looked like MM offense late in the third and 4th quarters. 3 runs and a punt trying to drain the clock! Get some balls and go for the KILL and throw the ball.!

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porupack's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:32 am

Exactly... The offense did the defense no favors. Sustaining the GB offensive drives, and the D could have stayed fresh.

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GBPDAN1's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:59 am

I agree about some of the mental errors, like wasting time at the LOS right before the half . And then there's the taking the play clock down to zero a lot and calling TOs or just a penalty. And his stubbornness not to take what the D gives him.

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ShooterMcGee's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:30 am

You neglect mention Rodgers diving head first on 3rd and 20 for a 5 yard gain and fumbling, luckily call overturned. Why didn't he just slide? The mental errors are the most surprising for me. I understand missing some throws but cmon man, losing 2 field goal opportunities was rookiesque. He is definitely on the back 9 of his career. Time to take a shot on his eventual replacement in the early rounds of next draft.

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NickPerry's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:07 am

This is my HOPE for Rodgers...

This is STILL a new offense and even though the Packers have played 14 regular season games. When Shanahan and MLF were at Atlanta it took until year two for the offense to REALLY work. Now Atlanta actually had more than just a Davante Adams in that first season which brings me to my second point and reason for hope in year 2.

Gutey goes out and gets a FA wide receiver addition AND drafts at least two more in the first 3 maybe 4 rounds depending how the draft falls. It's a GREAT draft for WR this season and the Packers have HUGE NEEDS at the position. ONE Free Agent and ONE of these WR in say round 1to go with Adams and Jones just might be enough.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:04 am

Completely agree about the FA and Drafting of a top WR.

They need to severely upgrade the position.

I still have high hopes for MVS, but at this point he is done this year. I'm not saying get rid of him in the spring, but IMO they need to find an improvement and make him earn that spot.

They have to upgrade over Allison, Kumerow, and Grant. Those 3 spots they have to find upgrades for.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:18 am

It's just the player he is. Like Favre chucking 6 interceptions in the playoffs, Rodgers will never change who he is as a player. He's going to scramble, he's going to hold the ball out in a vulnerable position, and there will be games like Detroit last year where his lost fumbles lose games.

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sonomaca's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:37 am

They scored 10 points in the first Chicago game. Big improvement. Last year, Chicago wrecked the season with the Rodgers knee injury. He didn’t throw any interceptions on Sunday, again. Whatever he’s doing may not be pretty, but it’s effective.

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Rebecca's picture

December 16, 2019 at 03:00 pm

Bears defenders dropped at least two possible interceptions. Both bakls were short and off target. Rodgers has been fortunate that he hasn’t tossed more passes to defenders the lasr 2 weeks.

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RedRight49's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:34 am

Would add Jake Kumero to the Game Ball list, and do like your overall Game Ball - Lame Call list.

With limited time of late taking offensive snaps, WR Jake Kumerow found an open space, made a nice grab and, ran hard and far for YACS, shedding
wanna-be tacklers. JK looked like a tough TE plowing through his 49 yard pick-up.

And a Lame Call to whoever decided that Aaron Jones should be assigned to block one - on -one a Bears pass rusher - at least twice Jones was unceremoniously shoved straight back into Rodgers. Number 33 was willing and game in the assignment but that blocking assignment call was just lame.

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:45 am

Even my wife , who knows little about football , was amazed and how good that throw was to Kumerow between two defenders.

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:48 am

1--I think the miss throws by Rogers are more glaring this season because he hasn't had that many chances to follow them up by a 15 yarder and he can't get into a rhythm as in past seasons. Something always goes wrong, drops, poor blocking, penalty, or poor routes.
2--Offensive line was the culprit this week. They couldn't block a D line minus Smith and made a beat up, gassed Hicks look like Reggie white in his prime.
3-- Besides the dropped balls, you can see on replays that the receivers are just running poor routes( running into coverage instead of finding the open areas in the zone).
4--Thought the tackle on Williams on the return was a clear spearing. He lowered his helmet right into his upper chest and hit his helmet.
Even though I'm not very confident this season , nobody is, Niners lose to Falcons at home. I won't be very surprised if Colts beat Saints tonight.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:11 am

The bears are 7th in the league this year in creating pressure on the QB. Rodgers was only hit 4 times. He was sacked once, and it was on a clear miscommunication late in the game where Mack got in unblocked. The OL dominated a future hall of fame pass rusher, to the point where there was an entire segment mid-game on how well Mack was being handled by both tackles.

And the run game averaged 4.2 yards per carry.

The OL was excellent yesterday.

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:24 am

Take away Rogers ' 23 yds and we have 77 yds at 3.6 clip. They are not seventh in the league with Smith and Trevathan sitting out and Hicks banged up.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:41 am

Aaron Jones would have gone 99 yards on each of his TDs, so that brings it up to 8.8 yards per carry.

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mnbadger's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:56 am

For the first time I can think of, we won in spite of AR's play and not because of it. Not bad for a 13 year veteran. But hopefully not the clear beginning of the end.

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NickPerry's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:58 am

Game Balls... The ENTIRE Packers Defense for the first 41 minutes and 37 seconds of the game...The Bears had done pretty much nothing. Jarie was a BEAST, Kenny Clark was a BEAST, the pass rush was doing an excellent job making Trubisky look like Trubisky.

Lame Calls...The ENTIRE Packers Defense for the final 18 minutes and 23 seconds of the game. UHG, UGH, UGH, UGH!!!

Coaching adjustments... Once again as soon as the opposing team makes adjustments, the Packers coaching staff is unable to make counter adjustments.

WHY O WHY then does Pettine INSIST on dusting off a version of Dom Capers "Prevent Defense" EVERY time this team has a lead going into the 4th quarter? It NEVER prevents anything except taking a game the Packers had in hand and giving us all a near heart attack by the time the clock reads 00:00.

Rodgers...After a win like that Rodgers has NO BUSINESS being smug at his presser talking about fine scotch.

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Bure9620's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:06 am

The Packers defense did not exactly get any help from the offense. When your offense gains -3 yards in the 4th quarter, that hinders a defense as well. You end up defending 83 plays.

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NickPerry's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:11 am

I understand and completely agree with you. BUT doesn't that sort of make my point about adjustments? I think this coaching staff as young and inexperienced as it is has a HUGE role in the Packers failures at the end of games.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:00 am

"Again, no killer on this defense to count on late"

I get why this would be written but I disagree. While it is true that game was much more exciting finish that it should have been, the Bears had possession with the chance to tie up the game 3 times. They were 0-3 on those attempts.

In fact, the Packers are 7-1 in one possession games. Sounds like they can finally count on people to make plays late in the game. Which is a welcome change from the last 5-6 years when you could count on the defense to give up a late lead. For this year anyways, they have reliably held late leads. I haven't yet shaken the nervous feeling I have been conditioned to have over those years. But I'm starting to believe that they can get it done.

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porupack's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:39 am

>>>>Sounds like they can finally count on people to make plays late in the game.<<<<

Seems to me that opposing teams such as the Bears just missed on a few 4th down attempts, more than the packers made a play. But, not taking anything away, there were some good defenseive plays made, including the Lancaster INT. We just seem to not have the offense that is capable of putting the game away.

The packers Offense could have put this game away at least 3 times with some injection of some adrenaline in the 4th Q.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:02 am

Game ball to Mike Pettine and this defense.

The final 20 minutes of the game for GBs offense…
6 plays, 13 yards, punt
3 plays, 5 yards, punt
3 plays, -3 yards, punt
3 plays, -5 yards, punt
3 plays, -1 yard, punt

The defense held strong, even creating a turnover to put the offense in scoring position.

#9 in points allowed now this season. The Vikings and 49ers have an extra $20-40M in payroll, and have only allowed 25 fewer points all year. Pettine deserves a big contract extension.

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wildbill's picture

December 16, 2019 at 05:29 pm

About time someone gave Pettine some props. Points are what counts, stats are for agents and fantasy football. We are a top Five team in the red zone, and the defense seems to have won us more games than the offense.

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dobber's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:08 am

I'll go on record as saying that if Terrell Suggs makes it down the waiver wire to this team, they should claim him. I know he's threatened retirement if he's claimed by anyone but Baltimore, but some have said that Tennessee will take a shot because they have his former DC. Maybe--by that logic--he'll want to play with Z. Smith and for Pettine. I could see that move freeing up P. Smith to play some snaps in the middle on run-downs.

There are only a couple teams behind the Packers in waiver claim, but a little keepaway might not hurt.

When you can't fix a weakness, double down on strength.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:31 am

Agree. Very little downside in claiming him and then finding out he's serious that he's retiring if he's not a Raven. Worth a shot.

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porupack's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:49 am

agree. I was thinking the same.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 17, 2019 at 02:20 am

KC claimed him on waivers. The article I read indicated that NO (10-3), Seattle (11-3), and SF (11-3) all tried to claim him, but the 10-4 KC team got him. No mention that GB put in a claim (source SI).

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Packers0808's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:08 am

Don't know what but something VERY big has to change in time for PLAYOFFS or are one and done!

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HankScorpio's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:19 am

"teams that are going deep in the postseason aren't struggling to end that effort. "

The only thing that happens in the regular season that automatically disqualifies a team from making a deep playoff run is missing the playoffs. Once you're in, anything can happen.

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:35 am

Especially this season, upsets every week.

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dobber's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:23 am

Tyler Ervin came out of college with a track record of being small, but dynamic. Between him and Aaron Jones, the Packers really don't have anyone who fits that bill. I wonder how long before we see the Packers trying to work a couple looks per game for him on offense...I certainly don't want to see GMo catching any more flat passes behind the LOS. Why not give those to a guy who can make things happen in space (Jones, Ervin).

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Swisch's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:44 am

Good thoughts, dobber, but I'd add Lazard and MVS. Please let's not give up on MVS so very soon!
How about some jet sweeps, as well, and at least faking the jet sweep more often?
There are running plays that are just predictably sending the ball carrier straight into a wall of defenders; then there are running plays with motions and misdirections and imagination.
I would think that LaFleur and Hackett and Rodgers would have a lot of fun designing as much creativity into our offense as possible. Maybe even a trick play once in a while.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:00 am

Completely agree!

Give those quick hitters a the ball in space!

I wouldn't be surprised if they may try something like that against the Vikings. With an extra day off, and this being a huge game, against a really good team, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to do some different things.

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Lphill's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:30 am

Game ball to Desmond Howard happy to have him back!

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:05 am

Could this be our Howard Green/Andre Rison type of signing?

Ervin has been amazing since becoming a Packer!

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:43 am

Wow, what a difference a speedy return man can make . He greatly improves our return units and makes them a feared weapon.

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Swisch's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:33 am

* If the Packers offense is excellent on opening drives that are apparently scripted by the coaches; and in this game at least excellent at the beginning of the second half also due to scripting; but generally terrible on offense at other times in the game when Aaron Rodgers presumably has more of a role in calling the plays -- what do we make of that?
* As we see Rodgers in somewhat of a decline, yet still stellar in some ways, it seems to make even more sense that he would make adjustments to his game such as not holding onto the ball so long. He would do well to watch the first Vikings game from last year when his leg was injured, and he had to throw quickly, and our offense thrived in rare fashion.
* Please don't keep piling on MVS for dropping one freakin' pass. Perhaps he should be the one who is frustrated for having so few opportunities to catch the ball this season. It amazes me when people give up on young guys like MVS and Rashan Gary so very soon, and seem to forget how long it took some of our better players to develop.
* On a more upbeat note, Aaron Jones is the new Paul Hornung. I was about in kindergarten when Hornung retired -- and thus sadly missed out on his fantastic career -- but my Dad told me he had an uncanny knack for working his way into the end zone. A lot of our 11-3 seems to be Aaron Jones as league MVP.

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December 16, 2019 at 10:37 am

MVS is now on the bottom of the list. That is a missed TD with the drop. The Fourth Quarter, three and out sequence was the result of predictablly, challenging the Bears with a running play on 1st and 2nd, going nowhere. Maybe LaFleur will see the light and get his fullback involved in a power scheme or hit the TE off P/A for the short gains. In that regard the O line did not get movement against the big stack of Hicks, Williams and Goldberg. I would expect to see a wide open game plan on the faster track @ the Shipwreck.

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PeteK's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:53 am

"Shipwreck" funny. Agree, I expected a better run attack against a beat up D, which would have iced the Bears. I'm afraid Vitale is not the blocker and receiver I hoped he would be as he was in for a number of ineffective plays.

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gmeyers1's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:14 pm

I remember Hornung being asked about the scoring and saying "I can lead the league in scoring as long as Jim Taylor keeps putting the ball on the one yard line.

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Swisch's picture

December 16, 2019 at 02:18 pm

Hornung, Taylor and Starr as a hall-of-fame backfield, with Hornung also able to throw the halfback pass.
Sad to say I missed those years of the Lombardi Era, but I really enjoy experiencing them as closely as possible through documentaries and books.
Those Packers transcend sports as a phenomenon of American history. Their story resonates through the decades as a wide diversity of citizens bonding together for common excellence and enduring camaraderie.
They're legendary, and we'd be wise to carry their spirit each year into every manifestation of the Packers.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:42 am

Lame call: Farts After Wins...where are you brother? Hope your intestinal track is OK.

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dobber's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:51 am

He was one of the first posts on "Gut Reactions" (appropriately enough). His post has disappeared...

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:38 am

Conspiracy? Get right on this. FREE “FARTS AFTER WINS”!

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egbertsouse's picture

December 16, 2019 at 12:26 pm

It wasn't his farts after wins that got him banned, it was his sharts after losses.

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sourlemon's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:08 am

Wow, that shot looks really cool.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:23 am

Game Balls:

11-3 - There is no apologizing for this record! They have a winning record for a reason. They are flawed just as are every other team. The 49ers who were supposed to be the 1 seed lost to a team that was 4-9. This team finds ways to win. They make it way more interesting then we want them to be, but they are finding ways. They were playing a team that had momentum. A team that won 3 in a row and 4 of their last 5. A team that just beat the Cowboys. They had momentum.
We control our own Destiny. Win the last 2 and we will have no worse then the 2 seed. Can't ask for more then that.

Ervin - We FINALLY have a return man. A guy that can make people miss and run with speed. Finally!!!

Clark - Beast!

Lame Calls:
Dropped passes - The first attempt to MVS should have been caught. May not have been a TD, but he should have caught it. Huge play that was not. Perfect throw and it was not completed. 3rd down same drive Allison drops pass that hits him in the hands. 2 pass plays that should have been caught. Adams dropped 2 passes. One of which would have set them up well on 3rd down. It was 2nd and 20 and would have made it 3rd and 8.

Dropped Interceptions - I can count 2-3 for sure dropped interceptions. Amos could have had one had he not been zeroed in on a hit. Packers DB's were getting their hands on balls, but need to start pulling them in. Savage had one that IMO would have been a pick Six. He read it perfectly and had a clear opening to run it back. Those are the game changing plays this defense needs to start making especially as we get closer to the playoffs.

Notes:
-This game would have looked completely different if MVS brings in that first catch, if Adams doesn't have 2 dropped passes, and if they don't drop 3? interceptions, one of which could have went for a TD.

-It felt like they got conservative in the 4th quarter offensively. But some of that was guys not making plays either. Overall the play calling didn't bother me, but I would have liked on the Packers last possession when it was 3rd and 5 to see them spread the defense out and try and get those 5 yards. If Rodgers didn't have a clear throw he could have taken a knee or something to keep the clocking running. But if they get a first down there the game is over. Why put the defense back on the field.

-To me it felt like the defense got wore out in the 2nd half especially in the 4th quarter. Packers offense didn't give them any breaks and it was noticeable.

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TheBigCheeze's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:49 am

MVS and Allison should not even be on the 53.........practice squad at best....NOT kidding.....they consistently drop passes, and when contested, they fold like a cheap suit....Lazard and Kumerow deserve the #2 and #3 spots.....they've earned it....

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edp1959's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:53 am

Good grief, I can't wait for you dang cry babies to have to live the 80's again. Every damn one of you will deserve it. #12 carried the team for years and now all you want to do is trash him. None of you are true Packers fans, not a damn one of you. Enjoy being 11 - 3 and going back to the playoffs. There is a reason to watch after week 17 this year.

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December 16, 2019 at 10:11 am

Fans defending the bad play is the reason the 80s happened in the 1st place.

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edp1959's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:47 am

"Fans" support or trashing players does't have one damn bit of influence on what happens on the field. Didn't in the 80's and definitely doesn't now. Yes this team still needs work, but some of this crap on here is just plain ridiculous.

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December 16, 2019 at 01:20 pm

B and S

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jasonperone's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:33 am

I'll tell you what I tell the others who throw that 80's line around, and I lived through them - the 80's ain't walking through that door and thank God they're not! New times, new standards. Nothing wrong with that and I can guarantee you a very high percentage of fans who are "cry babies" celebrate just as hard as you do when the Packers win.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 16, 2019 at 05:05 pm

Standards don't win football guys. Phil Bengston, Dan Devine, Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante all had standards. Everybody has them. Nobody wants to lose. Some people just don't know how to win. If the Packers get too many of those types or have them in the wrong places, history can and will repeat itself.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:42 am

Why would they be Packer Fans when they wear purple??

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edp1959's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:49 am

Good point, I agree many of them are Vikings trolls.

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ralm47's picture

December 17, 2019 at 04:46 pm

I've watched the Packers in the'70s & 80's. Some of the teams in the 80's with loosing records was more fun to watch then the team that's now at 11-3. If you're happy to just have a winning season, with out championships, that's your parogative. After 26 years, and 2 HOF QB's, some of us know there should have been more. More championships, and more domanate games.
I like winning seasons too, but there just should have been more.

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porupack's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:53 am

Let's all consider that the only real ugly win is a win but with significant injuries. This team has been incredibly healthy, including an Oline playing its preferred starters 100% of snaps. At least a few wins this season can be attributed to good health, compared to opponents.

Game ball: the trainer and stretch instructor

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HankScorpio's picture

December 16, 2019 at 09:02 pm

I wish you wouldn't have made that observation. It's like talking about a no-hitter in the middle of the 7th. :)

You are, of course, quite correct in making the observation, tho. The one injury of significance was Lane Taylor, which just cleared the way for a talented rookie that won't be giving the job back next year.

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cpabandit's picture

December 16, 2019 at 03:42 pm

Jason, one of the best articles you have ever written, perhaps because I agree with everything you wrote (though I am not sure you can say certain things without being ripped apart by blindfolded Packer fans). The Packers' safeties and corners are athletic, fast and strong but are clearly stupid or don't know their job. Holding at the wrong time, allowing tight ends to wonder alone for long completions, trying for a pick instead of knocking a pass down and how many more picks could the Packers have had yesterday if they did their job? As for Rodgers, he continues to hold the ball too long, not see open receivers far enough to get the first down yet close enough to get the completion but chooses instead to throw the ball down field to a receiver covered by three players, runs out of time because of the 0:00 clock at the snap and is getting more false start calls on his own players than off sides calls. He is playing like a scared pouting rookie and being outplayed by the opposing QB in almost every game regardless of whether Packers win. I cheered Rodgers when he was the greatest of all time (f*^k Brady) but I'm entitled to trash him when he's hurting the team. I was there during the 80's Packers, even the 70's Packers. The biggest problem the Packers will have advancing in the playoffs is getting Rodgers head back to being screwed on straight.

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psu8284's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:46 am

At 11-3 are the Packers the best team in football....the answer is no........right now. But they are 11-3. They take care of the football and win the turnover battle normally (+14 and 2nd in the league on that) and they play good red zone defense (top 10 in ppg). Those two statistics are the most important in the recipe for success in any football game. Rodgers getting a lot of heat for not being what he once was, but gosh darn he takes care of the football better than anyone. And the reality is in the past he had 3 guys he could trust to make a catch (Nelson, Jones, Cobb). Today he has one (Adams) although I believe Lazard has grown into that role and the LeFleur needs to turn more to Kumerow and the young TEs, but that will come. Rodgers is I believe reluctant to throw down the middle unless wide open because of the turnovers associated with dropped and/or tipped balls. This will come either this year (later) or next year. Running game is solid especially when the backs are used in pass game (which they do). As Rodgers said, I like this team...and I like their chances. THe more time in this offense...the more the young guys grow...the more dangerous they will become.

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Swisch's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:47 am

I've been loyal to the Packers since the times when Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton tormented us with his twisting escapes in the Seventies; and while living in Bears country during the heyday of Coach Ditka in the Eighties.
I'm also a big fan of Brett Favre to this day -- but watched him, after the glory years of three straight MVPs and a Super Bowl triumph, seemingly hinder the team in latter seasons to the extent that he put himself above coaching.
We do have to be careful not to overdo the negativity with the Packers; but constructive criticism in a caring way is necessary for a team to reach its full potential.
If a bad driver somehow got me home safely, I'd count it as a win -- but still not get back in that car until there were real signs of major improvements.
I'm truly glad for all of the Packers victories of 2019, and yet the ride has often been clunky and bumpy and nerve racking. Let's correct things before suffering a crash.

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TheBigCheeze's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:29 pm

wow....I could not disagree with you more.....just the OPPOSITE of what you stated, is what needs to be done....STOP CODDLING THE PLAYERS!!!!!......Lombardi always had his players scared.....scared that they could lose their job at any time...."improvement by subtraction", he used to say.....you cannot tell me, with a straight face, that MVS and Allison deserve to start over Lazard and Kumerow....and yet....that's exactly the case.....btw.....that's just ONE example of the poor coaching that is going on right now.....mark my words.....the status quo, will NOT get the Pack to the Super Bowl.......

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:48 am

Game: Defense allowed 13 points despite total plays/TOP lopsided. In 2 games, Bears scored a total of 1 TD.

Lame: Final GB drive—Total elapsed time 0.58

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Qoojo's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:05 pm

I agree with the the Rodgers assessment. It was clear that he's not the same QB of yesteryear. Always have to qualify it with "He is still very good" but just not as good as he used to be. There's a reason why mid-30s and up is old for the NFL.

Super-Lame: That offensive performance after the Lowry INT was beyond lame. How times a defense have to "kill" an offense? The offense should have put it away right there, but due to Rodgers' mental mistake, didn't even get a FG attempt from it.

I have a difficult time giving Adams a game ball for half-game performance and so many drops.

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edp1959's picture

December 16, 2019 at 02:21 pm

Rodgers mental mistake my ass. He is not the one that missed on the pass protection.

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Qoojo's picture

December 16, 2019 at 02:43 pm

The guy that sacked him rushed him right in front of his face. He has to avoid the sack there. It pushed them out of FG range, and the game remained a 1 score game. That's a huge mental mistake on his part.

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December 16, 2019 at 03:10 pm

Rodgers is not performing at an MVP level:

1. Except in the 1st Quarter...he is excellent....Matt is very good with Hackett and Aaron scripting the attack plan for the Ds weaknesses in the first 15-20 plays....and Aaron and the O are prepared and disciplined.

2. Quarters 2-4 for the most part are dysfunctional, haphazard, and head scratching. Except the 3rd quarter yesterday was encouraging....then came the 4th qtr....ugh.

3. #12 seems very indecisive after the script is done. Feet of clay or receiver corps that is “not OK”? He doesn’t have Jennings, Jordy, Jones, Driver, Finley, Cobb...Adams, Lazzard, Kumerow, MVS, Allison and those TEs don’t match up. But neither does the #12 in his 20’s to todays version.

4. Coach Matt is learning, the D is Red Zone strong and bend and often break until then....STs are maybe becoming not awful...perhaps a good QB for the playoffs can get it done.

Pack has beat some good, solid teams. They are not dominant...but they too are good and solid. There are no lucky paths to 11 wins...with a chance for 13 in the NFL.

Let’s roll!

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December 16, 2019 at 05:09 pm

Game Balls: Kenny Clark with a huge game, Tyler Ervin saving our ST returns, Lowry, Amos and Savage.

Lame Calls: MVS who has no idea of how to catch a pass. Back in the Lombardi era the Packers had a backup WR named Bob Long. He may have been the fastest receiver that ever played for Lombardi. In any case Starr threw a perfect deep shot, similar to Rodgers throw to MVS yesterday, and Long let it get threw his hands. After the play he comes back to the Packers sidelines and Lombardi says to him, ""Mister, what are you doing here? Long knows he blew the play and is sheepish. "Lombardi growls and says I pay you to do exactly one thing and that thing is to catch the ball!!! If you can't do that one thing I don't need you. The next time it happens just keep running right out of the stadium because that's where you belong." That's how MVS should be handled for yesterday. In fact he should have been chucked by now and his spot given to Ryan Grant.

Other Lame Calls: T. Williams for a bad holding call on 3rd and 15 and keeping the Bear's drive alive.

Notable mention: Davante Adams for his extra effort TD run (good) and then for running out of bounds (lame) with no one around him after receiving a pass from Rodgers on a crossing pattern. He should have run for another 5 to 10 yards on that play. Also Aaron Rodgers. He is taking plenty of heat for the performance of the offense, some of which is deserved. However, we should remember that he carried the team from 2011 until his injury in 2017 and everyone was fine with that while the defense gave away leads and games. IMO it is about time the team carried him for a while especially as long as he is not throwing picks or costing us games like the defense did for many years. Besides the MVS non-catch he had at least 3 other passes that were dropped. Then there is Graham who runs like Diver Dan if not worse. On to the Vikings. Thanks, Since '61

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carpo823@yahoo.com's picture

December 16, 2019 at 08:04 pm

Gotta piggy back off a lot of you guys. The mental errors from AR are just baffling. Taking the sack in FG territory especially got to me. Let’s hope he cuts down ASAP.

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