Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 2294 - Will the Packers Make a Trade?!
On today's show, Andy is joined by Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing to discuss potential trades, Luke Musgrave's injury, Packers/Lions, and much more. Don't miss it!
By AndyHerman
On today's show, Andy is joined by Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing to discuss potential trades, Luke Musgrave's injury, Packers/Lions, and much more. Don't miss it!
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Comments (10)
NJ-RICK
November 05, 2024 at 07:25 am
Pass Rush Gentlemen. The Defensive line is not putting enough pressure on the opposing QB's. The Packers need help on the D Line... 1st round pick Lucas-Vaness is not the answer. The DB's would look much better if the D Line could put more pressure on the QB.... LB play is weak also.. The problem with the Packers is DEFENSE. The offense and Jordan Love will eventually play better this season. The Lions clearly won the game in the trenches.... Again another physical aggressive team, very similar to the 49ers. Packers have trouble matching up against these types of teams.
Coldworld
November 05, 2024 at 09:31 am
So far, I’d say the D has been our better phase for most of the year. It’s not perfect by any means. I agree the pass rush is an issue. I found it interesting that Mosby was used last week and had an impact. Why? Because he’s the one lineman who is a different kind of player. Does he have more untapped upside?
I also don’t feel we have the right preferences at ILB based on play, but more often than not it’s the indiscipline on O and failure to convert on third down or in the red zone that have killed us, along with turnovers.
This O is operating far below the level we did last year. Thats despite Jacobs being available and the WRs a year more experienced. Love has really never settled, partly that’s due to injury. Partly I think to the game plans and calling. The best this team has looked is with Willis, not because he’s better, but I think it forced a more detailed approach to tactics and on field management. LaFleur and the team would be better if they approached planning for Love more similarly.
Getting Williams and Alexander back will help. Williams has already become a key cog. That will mean more if it doesn’t lead to Nixon outside. He’s less good deep than Valentine or Stokes. I think we need to take our lumps with Cooper, move Walker away from the dot and Mike role.
We have to be willing to both recognize poor play and to risk inexperienced talent over it. Reward good play regardless of status or preseason evaluation. We need to learn from the impact of no Myers on Jacobs first half performance last week. The film is there. We have to stop putting Wicks out there on key downs until he demonstrates he can turn it around. More Watson, Melton, even Heath. Thats how we get better and also how we send a message and focus players. Just doing the same things with the same results is a recipe for more if the same.
Leatherhead
November 05, 2024 at 09:53 am
So we're back on the "LaFleur sucks" narrative.'
The "O" had a bad stretch in the middle of the season last year, as it went 7 games in a row without scoring over 20. We were 3-6. The offense improved and we made the playoffs.
Now, we're 6-3. It is entirely within the realm of possibility that we'll come off the bye week and beat Chicago, and then win two games at home against SF and Miami. Then we'd be 9-3 when we have the rematch with the Lions.
Look,it's not LaFleur's fault that Doubs jumps offside or Kraft drops a pass. This is the youngest team in the league, and they're going to make mistakes, but IMO,some of these players need to take a good, hard, look at themselves, because they aren't focused as much as they should be. It's the middle of the season, we should be in mid-season form, and we aren't, and most of the time it's individual mistakes that are hurting us.
Three weeks, then the rematch with the Lions, then the stretch run. Go ahead and continue to shovel crap on LaFleur, Steno, Butkus, Myers, and whoever else you feel like.
Coldworld
November 05, 2024 at 10:24 am
I didn’t mention LaFleur at all. Rather I pointed out that although our D is not perfect, it’s not been the weak link this year taking the season to date as a whole. That is true in terms of stats but also relative to expectations.
I did reference a wider pint that we need to stop ignoring sub par play and start rewarding good play, referencing examples on both sides of the ball.
If I want to critique LaFleur, I’m not shy of doing so nor short of ammunition. In this instance, I was simply rebutting a claim that the D is the reason we are performing below expectations.
That you read those observations and immediately infered an Indictment of LaFleur is perhaps more revealing than you might wish in light of your desired narrative.
Dick-theBruiser-Afflis
November 05, 2024 at 10:57 am
Hey Gutekunst paid propagandist/"public relations" arm and Gutekunst Cheesehead TV policing monitor, "Coldworld", are you attacking and scapegoating the coaches again this morning in order to shield Jordan for the ultimate purpose of protecting your "Gute"?
Yup.
First Lafleur earlier this morning in "Cory's Corner: We've Seen this Movie Before" and again here:
"Partly I think to the game plans and calling. The best this team has looked is with Willis, not because he’s better, but I think it forced a more detailed approach to tactics and on field management. LaFleur and the team would be better if they approached planning for Love more similarly."
and other offensive and defensive coaches in other comments. Same stuff over and over.
No surprise.
Back to your Packer General Manager Office/Gutekunst propaganda/"public relations" work I see.
Your first comment on Cheesehead TV was not "well before 'Gute' was made GM"
Your first comment on Cheeshead TV was on November 7th, 2017 at 5:39 am in the weeks before Gutekunst was officially given the General Manager title, after having been lobbying for the job and acting as defacto GM since at least the beginning of 2017.
As Gutekunst - waiting in the wings to be announced as GM - was readying to have McCarthy fire Capers, you were criticizing Capers in the November 7, 2017 Cheesehead TV article "A Look at the Numbers: Dom Capers Has to Go" and then the dying Ted Thompson claiming Ted was going to give the job to his favorite Russ Ball.
Your comments since Gutekunst was put in place are all the same:
1) Never critical of Gutekunst
2) Always complimentary of Gutekunst
3) Always critical of whatever player or coach Gutekunst is readying to release, not resign, trade, or fire.
4) Always diverting appropriate criticism of your "Gute" and his dealings with players onto coaches and assistant coaches and players as scape goats.
5) Attempts to shut down criticism of your "Gute".
In addition, no one with a life would spend the time on this site carry out #1, #2, #3 , #4 and #5 unless paid to do so.
There is no commenter here on the Cheesehead TV site with the number of comments you have made - 18,688 - from the late 2017/early 2018 period through 2024 period. Even those commenters that have been commenting since the earliest Cheesehead TV articles going back to March 2010 have not made as many comments as you and all your comments are of the same theme - complimentary of your "Gute" and attacks on those that criticize your "Gute". It would be sickly obsessive, if it were not compensated.
Many of us long time Packer fans going back to the late 40s saw this ASSURED current Packer CRISIS coming the moment your "Gute" drafted Jordan, ironically right after Aaron Rodgers set the record in 2018-19 season for fewest interceptions in a season with just 2 for a QB with greater than 500 pass attempts and then nearly equaled the record in the 2019-20 season with just 4 in 2019-20.
We have gone from the most situationally aware QB in football to one of the least situationally aware QBs in football because the "Gute" - a man who was never in the arena on the field and in the fight in any meaningful way and whose entry into football was through the nepotism of his father - was trying to compensate for the rightful insecurity this novice has around veteran players - who have been in that area - with his multiple maverick, contrarian, idiotic choices, including the choice of the QB who led all of college football in interceptions in 2019-20 and now leads the entire NFL in interceptions, despite playing 2 fewer games than other starting quarterbacks.
The fact is that long time veteran gladiators - the men in the arena whose faces have been marred by blood, dust, and sweat - know far more about football than these suits and other arm chair quarterbacks do - and know "it is all about the people" - and a great coach knows the leadership of these veteran players in the locker room and on the field interpreting opposition setups and executing plays and maintaining the team camaraderie and chemistry on and off the filed are far more knowledgeable as to what will succeed and what will not succeed and far more important than anything that great coach can do.
Humility and respect for veteran player leadership is a great coach's greatest asset. Lafleur has that.
Humility and respect for veteran players is also a general manager's greatest asset and Gutekunst has neither - the cancer in the locker room and at 1265 Lombardi is "Gute".
Jordan Love deserves our support and love when he is in the arena.
That said, Packer teams have made NFC Championship games and Super Bowls when they MVP quarterbacks - that is the common denominator. Even made NFC Championship games when they didn't have top defenses or even top 10 defenses, when that MVP quarterback's interception to pass attempt ratio was the best in the NFL or near best - 2014 (lowest interception rate 1.0 , 13th ranked defense ), 2016 (5th lowest interception rate, 21st ranked defense), 2019 (lowest interception rate 0.7, 9th ranked defense), 2020 (lowest interception rate 1.0, 13th ranked defense) nor the quality receivers, tight ends or running backs it has now.
Gutekunst has Lafleur by the balls because Gutekunst supplies him with the means to win. Thus Lafleur does what Gutekunst wants. Gutekunst has the power and Gutekunst's reputation and survival as GM is inextricably tied to his selection of the QB that led all of college football in interceptions at a time the Packers were on the brink of Super Bowls and needed most a star receiver to complement Davante - AND EVEN THE MOST CASUAL FOOTBALL FAN KNOWS THIS.
Unlike Howie Roseman who selected Carson Wentz 2nd overall and then extended his rookie contract in spring 2019 and then 2 months later gave Wentz a then NFL record long term contract, "Gutey" cannot move on from Jordan, as Roseman did less than 2 years after Roseman gave Wentz that record long term contract, because unlike Roseman, who had won a super bowl at that time, Gutekunst has won nothing - in fact Gutekunst has taken the team on the brink of the Super Bowl that McCarthy then Lafleur coached - 13-3, 13-3, 13-4 and 3-1 until Rodgers broke and quickly disrespected and destroyed its veteran leadership and thus the team.
Gutekunst deserves nothing but disdain for his disrespect of veteran players and wrecking this franchise.
As for you, you are just paid to be here for "public relations"/propaganda purposes to protect the suits, no different than on any other political or business blog where those in control attempt to manipulate the mind of the public to retain control.
crayzpackfan
November 05, 2024 at 01:33 pm
Posting a novel like this I bet equals at least 43 post separately. I thought somebody went and copied and pasted the Old Testament in here. ;)
NFLfan
November 05, 2024 at 10:36 am
GB needs Pass Rushers.
Dick-theBruiser-Afflis
November 05, 2024 at 11:34 am
We Packer fans will be most fortunate if "Gutey" doesn't trade Jaire, Romeo, Christian Watson, Malik Heath, Bo Melton, Eric Stokes, Kenny Clark, Emanuel Wilson, Chris Brooks, or Preston Smith for a bag of potato chips.
Last year it was the Packers best corner other than Jaire - Rasul - 38.6 passer rating and 51.3% completion rate and 4 interceptions against Rasul last year in the 9 games Rasul played for the Bills and 59.4% completion rate against Rasul this year - which is even lower than Jordan's 61.3% completion percentage, which at 30th, is just 2 short of being the worst in the NFL. And Rasul doesn't miss tackles!!
Leatherhead
November 05, 2024 at 12:05 pm
You brought some receipts.
As to the future of the people you mentioned, quite a few of those will be economically driven. Many of them will be gone.
Dick-theBruiser-Afflis
November 05, 2024 at 12:57 pm
Yup always bring receipts and other evidence when available, and see my response to the Gutekunst propagandist/"public relations" arm just above.
My reference to trades were as to what might happen TODAY in particular and most of them will not be driven by economics but Gutekunst fear and disrespect for quality - and young - veterans that have "Gutey" pegged for what he is - incompetent and insensitive and insecure as he his start in football management was spawned in nepotism - based on these vet players observing Gutey's past treatment and disrespect of Jordy, Davante, Rodgers, Rasul, Aaron Rodgers and others they came to respect as locker room leaders.
Humility and respect for veteran player leadership is a great coach's greatest asset. Lafleur has that.
Humility and respect for veteran players is also a general manager's greatest asset and Gutekunst has neither - the cancer in the locker room and at 1265 Lombardi is "Gute".
Jordan Love deserves our support and love when he is in the arena.
Gutekunst deserves nothing but disdain for his disrespect of veteran players and wrecking this franchise.