Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 2263 - Romeo Doubs Reportedly Upset & Skipping Practices
On today's show, Andy takes a look at the updated injury report and what it could mean for the roster this weekend - plus a full breakdown of the Romeo Doubs situation. Don't miss it!
By AndyHerman
On today's show, Andy takes a look at the updated injury report and what it could mean for the roster this weekend - plus a full breakdown of the Romeo Doubs situation. Don't miss it!
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Comments (37)
Lphill
October 05, 2024 at 05:57 am
Bench his ass let him watch from the sidelines.
Elw00d
October 05, 2024 at 06:50 am
NFL getting as bad as NCAA with transfer portal.
Turophile
October 05, 2024 at 07:40 am
You have no idea about the details of this yet, Lphill. This is a way to early take when you don't know the what/where/how of it all.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:05 pm
what "details" would make doubs' behavior ok with you?
Turophile
October 11, 2024 at 10:14 am
It's a matter of degree, it's a matter of WHY he blew up. Was the coach ignoring his comments, was he (Doubs) under the illusion he was more important than he is ? I don't know. I do believe Doubs was in the wrong to miss practice, but sometimes a hot temper needs time to cool.
As for "Bench his ass", well, they did, but you assumed the problem was all on him before anything becomes clear. coaches or other players may have had a hand in the holdout, we don't know.........or didn't know, when the news first broke.
dblbogey
October 05, 2024 at 02:19 pm
They've rightly suspended him for this week's game. Conduct detrimental to team.
Coldworld
October 05, 2024 at 07:20 am
Swinson is not a receiving TE, he’s a big in line blocker in the late era Lewis mold.
As far as Doubs goes, this is either a misunderstanding by Huber or it’s probably a sign of deeper issues. Doubs is a first contract reveiver with no reputation as a diva in the past and not a league star, just a dependable starter. Absent some medical issues, those guys don’t pull this type of stunt because they don’t have leverage. The team can move on and just leave them hanging suspended with no need to trade them and other teams tend to be wary in future without extreme talent.
If Doubs is indeed that unhappy and mentally OK, then it’s likely this has been festering a while and it’s likely it’s not just him. This is a pretty tight group of young players. Everything to date suggests Doubs is an unlikely rebel, seemingly. Is LaFleur not as esteemed as is generally assumed? Or is this nothing or immaturity?
Unfortunately this was rushed out to the public without any insight or details about the motivations other than a general claim. Perhaps that’s informative to a point, but it may be equally unhelpful for all concerned. If it’s BS, then it will be worthy of censure not praise.
Don’t jump the gun Andy. It may be right, but it may be grossly misleading or false even if the motives are pure. Reporters want scoops naturally and reported get bad or misleading information and are innocently hoodwinked at times. Unless it’s confirmed it’s a rumor and unless the motives are known they remain so even if the bare fact is correct.
This piece is presumptive at best. I hope it doesn’t prove too embarrassing. Maybe stick to football aspects. Nothing you say about Doubs’ usage is wrong, but the more difficult what is known is to reconcile, the more doubt about a discordant conclusion is recommended. If the anxiety attack story is true, doesn’t it seem possible that it could flag a wholly different potential reason for absence than dissatisfaction by a guy with little to no leverage, if relevant at all? Sorry I stopped listening after that.
Oppy
October 05, 2024 at 08:53 am
I have a hunch- nothing more- that this might be an issue with depression.
Mister Chievous
October 05, 2024 at 12:21 pm
that's what I was thinking. I hope it is in a sense because if it
s anything else, he has to go. if it is, hopefully the team can get him the help he needs.
nagawicka
October 05, 2024 at 11:08 am
x1000
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:09 pm
doubs' is on the perfect diva trajectory. receivers don't come into the league as divas. they grow into their princess crowns after experiencing some success.
NFLfan
October 05, 2024 at 09:06 am
Did Bill need to put this out to the greater media? Doubs has been hardworking and reliable to date.
I think we can all sense that Romeo is shy. I am really disappointed in Bill and Andy @ this point and turned this video off.
Let Matt handle this.
nagawicka
October 05, 2024 at 11:25 am
x1000
Romeo Doubs has earned respect on and off the field. Packers 'reporting' does not need to do an autopsy on this when there's no dead body yet. There's no journalistic value in turning every bruise and breakfast cereal choice into a news story, when it's just not news. Worse, inserting the 'reporter' into a not-yet story, actually attempting to debate a thing that's not an event lacks any & all judgment, tilting more brutal than just unseemly. The only thing surprising here is Andy Herman hasn't already been on the field, during games, 'informing' Rasheed Walker in real time that his mechanics are off, offering pointers before the play's finished. Next I spose is Herman providing Russ Ball w realtime bedroom feedback, because contract negotiations are seggsy and no one really wants this. Unless this sh|t's driven by gambling addiction and getting paid another $15. It's not good for the game, or the team, or the reporters, or the roster. I turned it off too.
Istanbul
October 06, 2024 at 06:58 am
Romeo has been my favorite player and interview since he joined the team. His style is unique: soft spoken and sincere. Yes, he might have anxiety issues as Andy has referred to and has been referenced in the McGinn story. However, I think Romeo stated that he had terrible food poisoning that week of the combine.
He's not a diva and yet divas are typically handled with kid gloves in this league. Not in Green Bay. The Packers know Romeo's personality and hopefully have done everything they could to make sure he's ok before and after this incident. I'm guessing they know that if the story is blown up, it could be much harder on Romeo as he doesn't come across as one equipped to handle a flurry of hype his way. That's why Green Bay is the perfect fit for him: generally supportive media and team.
Did anyone notice when he threw his helmet down on the ground after missing a catch in the Vikings game? You never see that from him. That might have been a combination of self disappointment and frustration of his role.
Matt always praised him for being the first one on the field, always by his locker studying. Maybe the Packers do need to call more plays his way. He showed a lot his rookie year and Andy was the first on his hype train.
Don't trade him. He's worth a first rounder, second at the worst, but they wouldn't be able to get more than a 4th or 5th for him. He's also Love's most dependable target in the red zone.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:14 pm
"maybe the team needs to call more plays for him"? lol. he is punishing the team and trying to teach the coaches a lesson. if that means losing this game and the next, so what? doubs' clearly thinks he is better and more important than his teammates.
NFLfan
October 05, 2024 at 10:29 am
Bill Huber's 'scoop' is now all over the NY Post where bottom-feeders reside. I am really angry about this. Romeo is a good guy and I hope Bill regrets his decision to put Romeo on blast.
I am very familiar with the NYPost and you can best believe I spent some time
refuting many of the ugly comments. Andy seemed only too happy to discuss Romeo's sensitivities.
dblbogey
October 05, 2024 at 11:25 am
Just stick with the NY Times. They tell the best lies.
NFLfan
October 05, 2024 at 11:32 am
They're both bad.
dblbogey
October 05, 2024 at 02:17 pm
Times pushed the Russian collusion hoax, the Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation hoax, the border is secure hoax and Biden is not senile hoax. The Post reported the truth, then got censored by Twitter, Facebook, etc.
nagawicka
October 05, 2024 at 11:27 am
Thanks for pushing back. Doubs deserves better than Huber or Herman.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:15 pm
Romeo is not a good guy
MitchAnthony
October 05, 2024 at 11:00 am
It may be an uncomfortable story but it is a story. I don't think Bill Huber would risk his professional credibility as a sports reporter to just rush something out there. I didn't get anything from Andy except - peace, love, and understanding - so I'm not seeing the glee. But I watched it to the end and heard words like "grace" being used.
There may or may not be a - none of our business - aspect to the underlying issues of the situation. There may also be issues that are when you're basically discussing the availability of an NFL player in an NFL franchise. A franchise that could really use his talents, right now. If you don't want to be the story, don't make yourself the story.
I hope Doubs and the Packers come out better (whatever that may be) on the other end of this, sooner the better.
nagawicka
October 05, 2024 at 11:41 am
Sure, but reporters are making themselves the story. Packers' WR *storyline* has been the wide receiver room is DEEP, so we don't need a #1 diva. SO WHERE'S THE STORY. Seriously, since we're deeeep, we're not dependent on one WR taking a breather, a break, a back seat. YET here sit, pretending it's a story and he's a diva. FALSE.
That provokes a question: IF there's no #1, and all WRs are truly equal, it's pretty damning Doubs has not been targeted adequately, given he's ACED catch after catch in crucial situations. Facts: #1 Watson's been injured, #4 Wicks hasn't been solid at all. FACT: GB's 'All wide receivers are equal we have no #1' is just a dumb lie and a refusal to play the best, next man up. (aka Doubs) Sure, we all get that you can't lean heavily on one WR, so shutting Doubs down doesn't become the primary goal of opposing Defenses, to avoid wear-&-tear. Sure, we had Willis, not Love. We went 2-2 this way. Now Love's back. Yet apparently there's been no return to what works or to the wide receiver who has in fact made those crucial catches. Not just the # of catches. Difference-making, game-winning catches. Denial is not just a mountain in Alaska.
MitchAnthony
October 05, 2024 at 03:51 pm
Reporters doing what they're paid to do. Report on stories.
So where's the story? Yeah, it could have been real easy to keep a lid on this, say it was a personal matter and keep it all in-house until hopefully it gets worked out. Could have been. Until someone waved a big red flag by deleting all things Green Bay Packers from his own Instagram account and drawing attention to this. When you don't want to be the story, don't make yourself the story. Get it?
I'm disappointed to see this happening. I really like Doubs as a player.
I'll be honest. I'm not getting the idiom. Denial is not just a mountain in Alaska??? Whaaat?
Denali (formerly Mount McKinley) is in Denali National Park, and in Alaska. Denali is also a option package upgrade in a GMC product.
Did you mean to say, denial (de-Nile) isn't just a river in Egypt?
CanPackFan
October 05, 2024 at 11:03 am
This sure seems strange given what many say about Doubs? But I have wondered when some receiver on this talented group would pull a Diggs, and request more passes? I always thought it would be Watson - if he ever stayed healthy enough? But bottom line - even without Doubs, there are a lot of good receivers on this team who wouldn't mind his role. Let's hope this is just another NYPost BS/rumor article...
Mister Chievous
October 05, 2024 at 12:25 pm
I don't think this "receiver group" is as talented as you think it is
NFLfan
October 05, 2024 at 11:26 am
I have held the Green Bay media to higher standards. My impression with this piece is that Andy is trying to score points with Huber.
If this story is talked about on Monday by the national sports media, I can't imagine it won't have a deleterious effect on Doubs.
What happened to restraint, long-term implications, character? I can't imagine Matt La fleur is happy with Huber creating this massive distraction.. Most casual fans would not know anything about Romeo and whether he practiced or not but the NFL announcers will likely bring it to everyone's attention, especially since Watson is out.
Huber knew what he was doing and so does Andy. They have both lost character points with me and character is really all I care about.
nagawicka
October 05, 2024 at 11:51 am
Yeah, this goes to character. Not Doubs, whose character is clear to see.
LeFleur's character, 1265 media room's* character, the franchise character, all showing some realy ugly. *I mean, Spoff & Wes & Larry allowed this?!? Their rep's taking a rare and indelible hit. It's left a mark. Cry all you want 'they can't control reporter's' blahblah blah, NFL franchises control access and negotiate coverage all. the. time. Let's see if they've got anything to say for themselves. Or if they've been told to clam up, predictably, on pain of news 'stories' smearing them as problem children.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:19 pm
doubs' deleted every mention of green bay from his social media. what does that say? you are the one without character
Racingdad
October 05, 2024 at 11:48 am
Doubs has been one of my favorites since we drafted him in 22 ( I remember listening to the draft and begging gb to pick him and felt joy when they did ) since reading Taylor dunnes story about him I liked him even more . That’s why all this seems schockingly out of character for him . I hope he and the team can figure it out. But if not I’m going to be sad if he’s traded . Rumors flying - Steelers, chiefs, chargers ? If he is traded I hope gb can land a second rd pick - no less than a third for sure.Guess we now wait to see how it plays out ?
NFLfan
October 05, 2024 at 11:52 am
Diggs is a narcissistic Prima Donna-he has caused problems everywhere he goes
Romeo Doubs is nothing like Diggs. Please stop the comparisons.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:22 pm
he's something like diggs
BruceC1960
October 05, 2024 at 04:51 pm
Could surely understand Romeo’s frustration while Love was out. Last week Love wasn’t sharp. I hate to think Romeo is using the last 3 games as the basis for his disappointment.
Major Snafu
October 05, 2024 at 09:13 pm
Hey he has seen a pattern, start bitching and they get rid of you. Douglas, Savage, others. He wants out. I mean we go twvelve or thirteen, they use one less receiver in formation.
He apparently is that guy.
They all have incentive clauses too and when their time is cut jeopardizing the Benjamin's, some guys get pissy.
Let's hope they get something for him.
4thand10
October 06, 2024 at 08:33 am
Even IF everything is true on Doubs I would never fault a receiver for wanting the ball more. Especially when you have won games with him. Not to play the devils advocate too much but we have been waiting 3 seasons for a #1 pick to get healthy and get his hands right ( Watson) at the detriment to other WRs.
Also, Doubs , Reed, Heath and arguably Melton all have just as good of hands as Wicks and yet he gets more opportunities. JMO.
So what if they have to pull aside Doubs and say “ hey, youll get your opportunities. Id rather have a WR that wants the ball than a # 1 pick who I can’t even remember the last time he played a full game and when he does play… its less than stellar, but yet gets coddled because of his draft status. The issues with Doubs can be fixed. I wont be quick to jump and say “ premadonna” because obviously the dude wants the ball and just likes to play football. Who the hell doesn’t want someone like that on your team. How many #1 picks did Belecheck let fade away to make room for the Wes Welkers of the world? Not comparing, but football is separated by players that produce vs ones that dont and Doubs has a very high catch rate….so why not play players with better hands in traffic?? Letting a possession type receiver go from some is just silly talk.
Mister Chievous
October 06, 2024 at 12:03 pm
the most telling thing is the team went to his home and found him on Thursday, talked to him about it, and the next day he did it again. that's a big eff you to the team and his teammates. the amount of people on here that support Doubs is confounding. I have to assume they are younger and from the generations that never feel they should be held accountable, no matter what terrible thing they do. as a coach of 35 years (not football), I can tell you that when a player does this, it is very divisive, undermines the coach's authority, and throws a wrench into everything the team hopes to achieve. unless Doubs has a mental illness that needs treatment, he has to go, and he has to go now. an interesting development is the promotion of Rochelle to the roster. he can't go back down so there is no room on the roster for Doubs next week unless the team lets someone go. the writing on the wall?
4thand10
October 06, 2024 at 02:12 pm
Older call out stuff just as much