Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 2065 - A Deep Dive Into the Packers' Draft Philosophy

On today's show, Andy takes a deep dive into the overall philosophy that guides the Packers through their draft process, and why RAS (relative athletic score) is so important for Packers fans leading up to the draft. You won't want to miss this one!

On today's show, Andy takes a deep dive into the overall philosophy that guides the Packers through their draft process, and why RAS (relative athletic score) is so important for Packers fans leading up to the draft. You won't want to miss this one!

 
 

 

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golfpacker1's picture

March 21, 2024 at 09:17 am

Nubin has a RAS of 2.91 after his pro day and might be off or way down Packers board. What are options
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MooPack's picture

March 21, 2024 at 09:39 am

Packers went above their usual trend in free agency to get Xavier Mckinney. I'm sure they know, as many draft scouts have already said, this is not a good Safety draft class.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 21, 2024 at 12:02 pm

Cole Bishop makes sense at SS. Mustapha in the 4th would work.

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Boothie8739's picture

March 21, 2024 at 09:31 am

Great Episode. I knew it was going to be good when you started off reading "The Packer Way"

I also note that the grades given by the media for the drafts for the Packers are seldom "A"s. But those same media seldom rip the Packers because they have been identified as being wrong in their assessment.

One of the things that Gutekunst is overlooked on is his ability to manufacture draft picks... through trades and compensatory picks.

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MooPack's picture

March 21, 2024 at 09:35 am

Andy, great podcast. Every Packer fan should give it a watch/listen. Packers RAS (PRAS) has worked for them and one reason why they have been one of the best teams in the NFL since Ron Wolf arrived. Packers are well known for their draft and develop philosophy. No reason to start drafting a team of exceptions now.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 21, 2024 at 10:20 am

Not only RAS. The Packers also like guys who had better junior years than senior years. And team captains.

Kiran Amegadajie fits the profile this year.

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michael562's picture

March 21, 2024 at 04:04 pm

Easy for you to say

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 21, 2024 at 05:44 pm

bravo

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golfpacker1's picture

March 21, 2024 at 11:18 am

Todays mock with RAS scores or lack thereof:

traded 25 & 255 for 38, 106, 146, 182

38. Jordan Morgan-OT Arizona-RAS 8.99

41. T'Vondre Sweat-DT Texas-RAS 4.07-His pancake of Zach Frazier @ Combine was a 10.00

58. Trevin Wallace-LB Kentucky-RAS 9.64

Traded 88 &182 for 108, 129, 177

91. Calen Bullock-S USC-No RAS didn't complete drills

106. Jaylen Wright-RB Tennessee-RAS 9.81

108. Brandon Coleman-OG TCU-RAS 9.98

126. Khyree Jackson-CB Oregon-No RAS didn't complete drills

129. Brenden Rice-WR USC-RAS 8.82-surprised its this low-he catches everything ontarget or not

146. Isaac Guerendo-RB Louisville-RAS 9.98

169. Brennan Jackson-EDGE Washington State-RAS 8.47

177.DeCamerion Richardson-CB Mississippi State-RAS 9.80-Big, super fast, had tackle numbers a Safety would envy

202. Frank Crum-OT Wyoming-RAS 9.82-Very experienced developmental OT

219. Nathaniel Watson-LB Mississippi State-RAS 6.87 but he is a great athlete, tackling machine, good in coverage

245. Tyler Owens-S Texas Tech-No RAS-hurt @ Combine-RAS would have been high 9s-was projected to run low 4.3s-he is Tyler Nubin 2.0

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 21, 2024 at 11:39 am

"T'Vondre Sweat-DT Texas-RAS 4.07-His pancake of Zach Frazier @ Combine was a 10.00"

You may have dreamed this. Zach Frazier was less than 10 weeks removed from a broken leg at the Senior Bowl and didn't participate in the contact drills.

I think your thinking of Limmer and he got the best of Sweat a couple times too, like this one:

https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1752410867168067627?t=K4s11giDtcRSw...

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golfpacker1's picture

March 21, 2024 at 12:22 pm

Sorry LL, you are 100% right, I misread the players name on his jersey. It was Limmer.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 21, 2024 at 11:58 am

This is a good group of ball players. I've been focused on the first 91 more than the other picks. If we could get some of the guys you mention on Day 3 that would be fantastic.

You do realize that with this draft, if Jenkins or Rhyan get hurt, our next man up is either the rookie, Coleman, or Newman?

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 21, 2024 at 01:35 pm

Coleman should beat out Rhyan as a Guard. He will be in Rd Three. Can go OT to RG.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 26, 2024 at 07:39 pm

I wouldn't count on a rookie beating out a third year pro, especially in the trenches.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 21, 2024 at 01:37 pm

Cannot complain about this mock. The Simulator is very generous with the trade down compensation. I would still use 2025 picks to load up Rd Two. Get Better.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 21, 2024 at 12:31 pm

Yeah I do Leather, but at least all 4 of those O-Linemen have a lot of playing time under their belts. A grand total of 11,614 snaps combined would give them a fighting chance.

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GregC's picture

March 22, 2024 at 05:49 am

Andy mentions Jayden Reed a few times as an exception, but he isn't really an exception. The Packers had a much faster 40-yard dash time for him than the one he ran at the combine. That's what dragged his RAS score down.

Andy makes a great point about how the Packers certainly have their own formulas and their own criteria, but RAS at least gives us a ballpark idea of what they're looking at.

The Packer Way by Ron Wolf is a really good book. Highly recommended.

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