Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 1146 - Packers Postgame Show (Some Much Needed Packers' Therapy)

On today's show, join Andy Herman & Perri Goldstein for some good old fashioned Packers' therapy and airing of grievances after the Saints stole the Packers' soul in Jacksonville and handed the Packers a 38-3 loss. Don't miss it.

On today's show, join Andy Herman & Perri Goldstein for some good old fashioned Packers' therapy and airing of grievances after the Saints stole the Packers' soul in Jacksonville and handed the Packers a 38-3 loss. Don't miss it.
 

 

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Andy is a graduate of UW-Oshkosh and owns & operates the Pack-A-Day Podcast. Andy has taken multiple courses in NFL scouting and is an Editor for Packer Report. You can find him on WFRV's Green Bay Nation and every Friday on the Friday Film Room on WDUZ . Andy grew up in Green Bay and is a lifelong season ticket holder - follow him on Twitter @AndyHermanNFL!

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Lphill's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:54 am

Unfortunately things won’t be fixed in time for the Lions , Jamal Williams will run all over the Packers get ready for 0 snd 2 .

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Hornungfan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 10:22 am

I'm noticing the apparent weight that it seems Aaron Rodgers lost. My impression is that he is on a long term body cleanse type diet. I'm wondering, in addition to his self absorbed behavior and thought process that is harmful to the team in my view, whether the apparent weight loss has thrown Rodgers off his normal physical nature creating a disequilibriam, or more simply put, a loss of physical strength, affecting his ability to throw and among other.

Also, I'm still not convinced that his young fiance doesn't have something to do with the mixed feelings he has projected regarding staying in Green Bay. What young actress wants to live in Green Bay instead of Los Angeles or some other more interesting or convenient location as it also, presumably, would affect her career as well.

Anyway, these are just some thoughts.

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Harold Drake's picture

September 14, 2021 at 02:00 am

Perhaps there was an editing error, but three minutes or so of ads around the 15 minute mark of this podcast is very annoying and it seemed to interrupt the podcast mid-sentence. With respect to the criticism of Rodgers being unable to counter cover 2 shell defensive formations, it would seem that the responsibility for devising offensive schemes that can thwart C2 (i.e. running the ball and taking advantage of quick slant routes and other short passing plays) lies with MLF and not Rodgers. AR12 did of course look hesitant indecisive but on the interception of the pass intended for DA he was jostled as he was releasing the ball which obviously caused him to miss his target (AR12 does not undershoot receivers by three yards on a ten yard pass!) The deep ball to MVS that was intercepted was Rodgers' worst pass although it was good to see that he can still throw with velocity a ball that travels 65 yds in the air.

But it is utter nonsense for Goldstein to reverse engineer explanations for AR12's overall lacklustre performance by implying that his off-season anti-management agitation and trumpeting of his MVP skill set ipso facto required him to play at the highest level when the underlying cause of the Packers' woeful performance was a terrible defense combined with MLF's staggeringly wrong-headed offensive game plan. Better to criticize empty backfield spread formations of the McCarthy era than to attribute Rodgers' indifferent play to his off-season Zen training and romantic bliss the way some fans are implying. There are so many variables at play that it is impossible to identify any precise causal framework that does not amount to ad hominem speculation. Of course, we can observe that Rodgers looked ill-prepared for the kind of defense that was thrown at him but how much was that due to a bad MLF game plan vs the Saints' C2 scheme that double-covered MVS and DA for much of the game? What is obvious is that MLF has still not shown an ability to make the kinds of in-game adjustments that Don Shula was so brilliant at devising and that Bill Belicheat continues to deploy.

Otherwise, Herman and Goldstein delivered an excellent analysis of Apocalypse Packers. I personally subscribe to the "Herman Tilt Theory" of events which runs as follows: GB panics after falling behind and overreacts by abandoning the run and going vertical on the assumption that the defense is so incompetent that the other side will continue to score on lengthy drives and therefore the Packers need to score at a faster rate to stem the hemorrhaging.

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September 15, 2021 at 04:53 am

The fourth and seven issue might be valid. IDK, though. Plenty of plays by the Saints hadn't worked, so there was a decent chance of going for it backfiring. Definitely a jugular shot. It was 4th and 7 from the GB 41 with 5:08 left in the 2nd quarter with the Saints up 10-0. Too long for a FG. It was 90 degrees. GB had only had 12 plays. Success on the play let the Saints use up another 4 minutes. GB got the ball back with 1:07 left - the goal might have been to leave no time. As it happened, GB was able to put up a field goal in that 1:07 left. I view it as keeping the foot to the gas, at least get the defense gassed, and the temperature and humidity. It might be that both coaches thought this game was going to be a track meet - witness LaFleur going for it on 4th and one from the GB 34 yard line with 8:53 left in the first quarter and down just 3-0.

Joe Barry's defense looked a lot different to me. 2.5 true DL/play, 1.77 ILBs/play, and just 4.61 DBs/play. Almost no dime, moderate nickel. On offense, 2.8 WRs/play, 1 RB/play, and 1.1 TE/play. A lot of 11 personnel. Not what I expected. Demario Davis is good. Kwon Alexander has strengths.

A good article from Doug Farrar on the two high safety being AR's kryptonite. I don't really agree. Per his stats, against single high, AR had a 123.5 passer rating in 2020. Against 2 high, it was 101.4. That's a lot less, but QBs would love to have a 101.4 passer rating. Personally, I think GB has trouble against quick ILBs and really good ILBs. Here is a link to that article.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/aaron-rodgers-saints-two-deep-p...

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