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No immediate adjustments coming for Packers' assistant coaches

Don't expect any staff changes in Green Bay -- yet.

Nothing immediate is expected to come of the Packers' assistant coaches, according to ESPN's Rob Demovsky. Members of the coaching staff, who will spend their final day or two in the facility, are expected to be informed on Monday that their services won't be called upon until a new coach is brought on board.

That's a process that could take a good while, considering the only known interviews the Packers have conducted to this point have been with Chuck Pagano and Jim Caldwell. They're expected to give current interim head coach and former offensive coordinator Joe Philbin an interview as well.

Philbin took over as the Packers' interim coach after Mike McCarthy was relieved of his duties following a surprising loss to the Arizona Cardinals earlier this month. During his time holding this post, Philbin was 2-2.

His most recent loss came Sunday at the paws of the Lions, 31-0. It was the Packers' first shutout loss to the Lions since 1970.

One of the more notable assistant coaches, current defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, has received "strong sentiment" to be retained. If he isn't, the Packers would have had three different defensive coordinators in three years by the start of next season.

Demovsky notes that coaches currently under contract with the team, including Pettine, would have to receive permission before exploring opportunities elsewhere.

The Packers are expected to move on from special teams coordinator Ron Zook once this coaching hire is made. Typically, "Black Monday" serves as the day in which coaches and players across the league are notified that they're out of a job. It would seem as if the Packers plan on laying low and doing their research on their next head coach candidate before making any staff decisions.

The next head coach will have full control over his staff, which gives the decision to wait it out merit.

The Packers are expected to pursue Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald, according to several reports that surfaced over the weekend that were later confirmed by ESPN's Adam Schefter

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at jacobsonzach14@gmail.com.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

Sure hope we make aggressive changes. Otherwise, we better get used to having interns do the network play-by-play like we had today.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

It reminded me of two annoying morons at the next highboy over who I wished would just STFU.

Packers0808's picture

Still better than Aikman and a lousy dollar! {Buck}

Gort's picture

The Bevis and Butthead comment got way too many dislikes.

Hawg Hanner's picture

I would tell Ron Zook to get his shit out of the building by 10 am tomorrow morning.

Gort's picture

Should have been 10am a year ago.

Mojo's picture

After listening to Robert Smith complain about how cold the weather was for what seemed like a million times I was considering puncturing my ear-drums.

Samson's picture

At this point, there's really no rush.
The entire staff left behind by MM will be unemployed soon enough.
I'm looking forward to a new coaching regime. -- I've been waiting for this time for several years. -- 1st TT then MM & his cronies. -- Time now to look forward to the future.

Free agent's picture

Agree 100% Samson.... it will be refreshing to watch a GM with high draft picks and plenty of cap space $$, utilize ALL available means to turn this roster around. Gute will get rid of underperforming players and take a chance in free agency. Packers have many holes to fix, draft and develop won’t cut it.

Packers0808's picture

So then Rodgers will have to go, because he sure under performed, right?

Lare's picture

In the words of Forrest Gump- "Stupid is as stupid does".

Packers0808's picture

Yup you know all about stupid, see shoe fits and you wear it.

Lphill's picture

Packers0808 I see your Vikings are out.

Packers0808's picture

I have been a Packer fan before you were born, since 1958 and the Vikings is the team I dislike the most So buddy grow up b put your pants on instead of Mommmmmmmy putting them on you!

Lphill's picture

well than I guess you are just stupid when it comes to football.

Free agent's picture

Cobb, Matthews, Perry, Davis, Graham, Kendrick’s, Spriggs, House, Brice, Williams, to name a few.

reefkeeper's picture

Under performed why? Because he did not carry this shell of a team the front office put around him again.

Packers0808's picture

I was asking, not saying!

jeremyjjbrown's picture

He under performed.

Oppy's picture

All you have to do is isolate player performance.
1- vision- never saw or ignored many targets in progression

2-decisions- threw away more balls than we’ve ever seen before. Despite poor right side OL, held onto ball like it was his security blanket

3-off target throws. A lot of them.

4- many due to poor, sloppy technique and mechanics, which of course, he denied, but the tape says otherwise

Outside of the last two games, and a quarter here and there.. not a great year for arod.

Are there other issues? Yup. But why are some people pretending that #12 wasn’t a contributor to this disaster?

reefkeeper's picture

Ahh now you are now the QB guru.

Oppy's picture

Just have eyes and focus on the players not the outcomes.

Barnacle's picture

The MM staff is still the problem. I hope Murphy will allow all of them to seek employment elsewhere. I also question Gute’s judgement for 1) supporting the Rodgers extension and 2) accepting a GM position with no control of the HC.

Murphy does not seem to understand how to run a team. Lots of education and no street smarts. He had the authority to do something about our defense and our special teams and did nothing for years.

Murphy should have stepped in and benched our best players for the last two meaningless games. Allowing Mathews and Rodgers to decide if they will play or not was poor management and Murphy should have stepped in and not let an interim HC risk our franchise(whether the millionaire players wanted to play or not)

Dean Ticks's picture

Zook shouldve been given his pink slip right after the game. The rest of staff will change soon enough. I'm hoping the Fitzgerald thing is a media induced prank.

splitpea1's picture

I certainly hope it's nothing more than a rumor. The Packers wouldn't dare hire a college coach to fix the myriad of problems on this team...would they?

jeepingmakooi's picture

Oh they will definitely interview him. Murphy hired him when he was ad at Northwest

The TKstinator's picture

I’m thinking a college coach would take too long to adjust to the whole NFL HC “situation”.
A candidate with HC experience will be looked down upon as a “retread”.
I think it’s gotta be a young(ish), innovative former OC. Alpha male. Otherwise, 12 won’t listen.
But time will tell. It always does.

Lare's picture

"The next head coach will have full control over his staff..."

That is, unless Mark Murphy decides that he's going to do it.

Nick Perry's picture

If Murphy saddles the HC with any of the Packers current coaches then expect the Packers to hire a joke of a HC and have a record worse than this until Murphy is gone.

In other words no decent HC capable of getting a team to the SB is going to have his coaches preselected.

flackcatcher's picture

I'm dubious on the Fitzgerald reports. I would fully expect the Packers to reach out, due to the Northwestern connection, just as they did with Caldwell etc. But these national reporters main source for these reports are their coach and players agents. And to say these guys don't have an agenda would be laughable. I am not banging on these guys, it just the NFL is so paranoid it is getting really hard to get accurate information out of the league these days.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

No NFL experience at all. It's tough to imagine that transition happening.

Lare's picture

Lots of these reports and interviews are done as favors to help coaches & agents out in the future. That way they can report that "______ was interviewed and considered for the Packers Head Coaching position" when in reality they were never really in consideration at all.

Personally, I think there are really only 2 or 3 people under consideration, and I think the leader of the pack is Josh McDaniels.

Bure9620's picture

Fitzgerald is the next HC, book it

dobber's picture

I have a hunch you may be right.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I'd love to bring the NE offensive system to GB. I am just not sure about Josh McDaniels' personal failings. That's something the FO will have to sort out via the interview and other due diligence.

Old School's picture

I don’t see any sense in a rookie NFL coach installing a new scheme for Rodgers to learn. It would make more sense to have a veteran NFL coach who is familiar with Rodgers install a scheme Rodgers is familiar with.

dobber's picture

To be honest, bringing in a new offensive minded coach who designs and installs a scheme WITH ARod might be what it takes to focus him and get him excited about playing within an offense again.

buddrow53's picture

Look how many young players we have on the roster. think about adding 8-10 more rookies next year,think about how the nfl is more like college football,look how many young stars are in the league that are doing well.

Maybe just maybe a college coach might work.

Never say never.

Bure9620's picture

Fitz could, but most would not

dobber's picture

I'm wary of college coaches, too, but I think Fitz exudes class and leadership, and he's a smart dude. That's what interests me about him as much as anything else. I could see him being the choice, but I'd rather have a guy who has worked with pro athletes.

splitpea1's picture

That sounds like a prayer, or something to the effect that "nothing is impossible." Asking a college coach with no NFL experience to redesign the offense, deal with a diva QB, turn around an atrocious special teams unit, improve the perennially poor tackling, hire a new training staff to hopefully cut down on the disproportionate number of injuries, etc., etc., is really stretching it (no pun intended) IMHO.

Packers0808's picture

See Rodgers taken to hospital after concussion. Wonder how bad it is, career ending although that seemed to have happened earlier this season!

Bure9620's picture

"Adjustments" make it sound minor, it will be an overhaul

EdsLaces's picture

Ty Montgomery be like ...hey pack I'm going to the playoffs lol.

Bure9620's picture

That's Hilarious

Kb999's picture

Clean house. After today's embarrassing performance no coach should be brought back.

Packer Fan's picture

Yes clean house. It is disgusting that the whole team played poorly. And Zook should be the first one to go. The miserable day started with Scott shanking a 25 yard punt to put the Lions in good field position. Then the fake FG!!! Where was Philbin to call a timeout?? And then let a 25 yard punt return by the Lions. And then a blocking in the back penalty on a return.

PJS6680's picture

Packers need to come up with the heir apparent for Aaron Rogers this off season. He looks done at this point. There is no sugar coating his performance this season.

Tarynfor12's picture

In two years...maybe Lawrence from Clemson.

Oppy's picture

Don’t know who the eventual replacement for Rodgers is, but I know I don’t like or agree with the mindset that the packers “have to” or should go out and draft a QB high ASAP. That’s called chasing, and when you chase, you reach, and when you over extend, you can quickly lose your balance and fall on your face.

Drafting a premium position like QB In a given year just because you need a QB is a great way to waste a high pick and end up disappointed. I agree, taryn.. you let the player come to you. You can’t force it. Going for the best QB this year might net you a sub par QB.

EdsLaces's picture

I'm with you except for this ....how often we gonna have 2 first round picks?

Oppy's picture

Just because we have two first round picks doesn’t mean there is a QB entering this draft worth spending two first round picks on... or even one first round pick on.

Tarynfor12's picture

If the QB being considered is one that can be another in the Favre-Rodgers line and making a trifecta...I'm trading whatever to get that QB that draft.

Oppy's picture

While I don't want another Favre-Rodgers type (I think the pricetag for QBs has become too high, and I believe there are better ways to build a winner than riding it all on one man's arm), I'm not disagreeing with doing what you must to go get a player you feel strongly about. What I'm saying is, there's a bunch of people who's answer is "We need to draft a QB in the first round this coming draft". They aren't targeting a specific player, they just want the Packers to grab the highest rated QB in this draft, now. Because we need a QB. Talent levels vary from draft to draft and when you chase a position by throwing a high pick at it without regard to the actual talent level present, it's a recipe for disaster.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I have no interest in drafting a QB, and I won't until it becomes crystal clear that AR can't be a top 3 or to 5 QB in the NFL in the future.

That said, I'd never pass on a QB that might become a franchise QB if such a prospect is sitting there on the board when our pick comes up. I'd wait to see if a new HC or OC can get AR back on track first before I'd move up for a QB.

Old School's picture

A few days ago, I researched the last several years to see if Aaron Rodgers has been a Top 5 QB over the last four years.

Not in QB rating, not in completion percentage, not in yards per attempt .

He is an above average QB who is exceptional at protecting the ball, but it’s been a while since he’s been Top 5. That’s already crystal clear.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

With MM as HC and de facto OC, I agree that AR hasn't been a top 5 QB since 2016.

stockholder's picture

Yes Clean House. We picked on Don Capers. And yes Pettine showed he could do more with less. But this defense never fooled the Lions. The bears and the Vikings, even lions, have a better defense. They run the 4-3-4. Bears No. It's time to switch back. Look what happened with the bears and Cowboys. Both drafted a ILB and made the playoffs. We don't have the answer in the middle. Or at Def. End. While Martinez does well. Does well is not good enough. Some say draft offense. But the bears and Cowboys did it with defense. After today defense must be drafted. And your safeties must be veterans that aren't confused by the 3-4-4. The time for change is now.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

The Bears play a 3-4.

I, however, would not be against a move back to a 4-3 as long as it's a 4-3 under defense. I don't think playing a DE over the TE makes sense in this NFL.

stockholder's picture

Then we stay to drafting the OLbs.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

What? Martinez (Will), Morrison/Ryan (Mike) and Burks (Sam) would be fine. Perry might even be motivated playing DE. In any 4-3 trade Fackrell (sell high).

stockholder's picture

Fine? over - Josh Allen OLB , J Polite/Sweat will take a 1 and 3/Perry to trade up. But Oliver and Simmons would be awesome. Both have the talent of Wilkins.

Oppy's picture

“Under” isn’t a fundamentally different defensive scheme, it’s just an alignment shift, so it shouldn’t really be a concern. It’d be like saying I’m good with installing the west coast offense, as long as it’s not a west coast offense in trips formation.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

They also tend to use different body types. Since the strong side OLB is in a better position the DE there can be a faster pass rushing type. He doesn't need to be about 300 lbs.

Oppy's picture

Most 4-3 Defenses have a mix of body types, from large, strong Reggie white 3-down DE's (300lbs) to guys like Aaron Kampman that were 3 down players but more a mix of size and quick (270 lbs) to pass rush specialists like KGB who were quick twitch speed demons (250-ish).

I was actually hoping to see the Packers run more 4-3 fronts this season, seeing as we've never really had true 3-4 body types on this team along the DL. I'm cool with whatever. Just get the most out of what we've got, or build to it.

stockholder's picture

How could anyone stop a DL of Oliver,Daniels,Clark,Simmons. Last year look what was drafted first. Smith ILB bears @8, If a ILB runs 4.5 he will go round 1. The packers have a shot at Oliver. They should draft him. Because Cinn will take Allen before the Packers. And White will go quick too.

rfrank512's picture

Whoever is the Special Teams Coach needs to take his "talents" somewhere else.

marpag1's picture

Why would the Packers "make adjustments" now?? The new HC will hire his staff. And if the new HC does want to retain someone from the current staff like Pettine, then the Packers already have him.

ILPackerBacker's picture

It is really funny and reflective of the worst press in the NFL covering the packers that a comment complains Rodgers holds the ball to long and that he throws it away to much in the same sentence.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Why? One has led to the other.

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