Mock Draft Monday - The Picks
Looking at the draft with a bunch of big boards and a draft simulator.
It is time to run some final mock drafts using the First Pick simulator while cross checking it against the CHTV draft guide and a few consensus draft boards (Mock Draft Database and Jack Lichtenstein's collection). I am not doing trades for a variety of reasons, including implementing the adage that this year the Packers should let the draft come to them.
Gone means that those were the players selected by other teams. They are in their draft order. POS lists the top two or three players at each position per CHTV's draft guide. CON is the consensus draft board by Mock Data Base, also in order by the ranking assigned by MDB. I have used Jack Lichtenstein's consensus board to look at the rankings by The Athletic (ATH), The Draft Network (TDN), NFL.com and Walter Football (WF) as additional big boards. Due to space limitations, this will be a three round mock.
| First Pick | Picks 1 to 21 |
| Gone: | DE Hutchison, DE Thibodeaux, OT Neal, CB Gardner, DE Walker, OT Ekwonu, QB Willis, OT Cross, QB Ridder, ED Jermaine Johnson, QB Corral, ED Jermaine Jackson, WR Olave, WR London, WR Wilson, S Hamilton, OG Green, DT Davis, ED Karlaftis, CB Stingley, ED Enagbare |
| POS | WR Watson/Williams; OT Penning/Smith; IOL Strange/Salyer; DL Wyatt/Leal; ED Ebiketie/Bonitto; ILB Devin Lloyd/Harris/Dean; CB McDuffie/Booth; S Hill/Cine/Brisker |
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CON |
WR Williams, LB Lloyd, CB McDuffie, OT Penning, WR Burks, CB Booth, OC Linderbaum, DL Wyatt, LB Dean |
| ATH | LB Lloyd, CB McDuffie, WR Jameson Williams, Penning, Linderbaum, Hill |
| TDN | CB Booth, WR Williams, OC Linderbaum, DL Wyatt, Lloyd, Hill |
| NFL | CB McDuffie, OC Linderbaum, WR Burks/Williams, LB Dean, OT Penning |
| WF | WR Williams, CB McDuffie, WR Burks, Watson, ED Ojabo, OC Linderbaum, |
PICK 22:
Let's look at the players the simulator selected for other teams. For the most part, those selections seem reasonably probable to me. I would question the selections of the quarterbacks, Ridder and Corral, that high, but teams have been over-drafting quarterbacks for some time now and I see no reason to believe that behavior will change this year. The other pick I question is Kingsley Enagbare at pick 21, which seems rather too high for him. Enagbare is huge, but that seems like a reach.
There is plenty of talent left, indeed enough to trade back. [I have the same general feeling at each pick: there is plenty of talent from which to choose, if not exactly at the positions desired.] Not every site likes Wyatt, and he may have dropped down or been removed from any number of boards, plus he just turned 24. For purposes of this exercise, I am assuming he is either off the Packers' board entirely or severely downgraded. Devin Lloyd is well-liked option, though he turns 24 in September. Trevor Penning (turns 23 in May) would be a solid choice. McDuffie might be the most talented. He is tall enough though he does not have classic size. It is not a position of need but one can never have too many corner backs. Most sites like Jameson Williams and McDuffie (22 in September). Williams is probably a top-ten talent, but he is injured and likely will miss some or all of 2022. Still, he checks the talent, fit, need and age (just turned 21) boxes. Those are the five prospects I am seriously considering. Since I only questioned three of the selections the simulator made for the other teams, two of them should be there. It is time to make myself popular.
The pick is Jameson Williams. Gute probably takes Penning or Wyatt if he is still on their board. I would take McDuffie.
| Picks 23 To 27 | |
| Gone | CB Booth, CB McDuffie, QB Pickett, CB Elam, CB Jaylen Watson |
| POS | WR Watson/Pickens; OT Penning/Smith; IOL Strange/Salyer; DL Wyatt/Leal; ED Ebiketie/Bonitto; ILB Lloyd/Harris/Dean; CB Kyler Gordon/Roger McCreary; S Hill/Cine/Brisker |
| CON | LB Lloyd, OT Penning, WR Burks, OC Linderbaum, DL Wyatt, LB Dean, S Hill, WR Dotson, S Cine |
| ATH | LB Lloyd, OT Penning, OC Linderbaum, S Hill, Wyatt, Ebiketie |
| TDN | OC Linderbaum, DL Wyatt, Lloyd, Hill, Penning, Dean, Ojabo |
| NFL | Dean, Penning, Raimann, Ojabo, RB Hall, Lloyd |
| WF | WR Burks, Watson, ED Ojabo, OC Linderbaum, WR Robinson, Clark, Pierce, Hill Penning |
PICK 28
The only pick made by the simulator that I question is Jaylen Watson. Pick 27 is just too high for him, and by a lot. He is big with long arms (32.25" or three inches longer than McDuffie's). He tested better than he looked on the field. There was a run on cornerbacks so perhaps that is part of picking Watson so high. At any rate, most of the targets should be there.
Lloyd and Penning (turns 23 in May) are the two prospects listed consistently listed on the big boards. I would love to find upgrades for Henry Black and Krys Barnes, so Lloyd is tempting even if the Packers do not have a history of drafting inside linebackers in the first round. Raimann is also older and a bit of a project. I would be fine with Wyatt, Cine, Hill, or Dean, for that matter.
This pick is OT Trevor Penning. Gute probably runs to the podium to select Penning. I am largely indifferent as to which player is selected out of this group because I think they all make Green Bay better. Which one wants to be great?
| Picks 29 to 52 | |
| Gone |
RB Hall, Linderbaum, ED Boye Mafe, OT Kinnard, LBs Lloyd/Dean, OT Smith, CB Armour-Davis/Emerson, ED Ojabo/Ebiketie/Sanders, DT Mathis, OT Raimann, S Cine, OT Mitchell, WR Burks, QB Howell, OT Faalele, RB Walker, OT Petit-Frere, S Hill, OG Zion Johnson, CB Kyler Gordon, CB McCreary |
| POS | WR Watson/Pickens/Metchie, OT Lucas/Rasheed Walker; IOL Strange/S Rhyan; DL Logan Hall/Travis Jones; ED Bonitto/Cam Thomas/Paschal; ILB Harris, Asomoah, Muma; CB Tariq Woolen, Alontae Taylor; S Brisker/Jalen Pitre |
| CON | WR Dotson, S Pitre, RB Hall, DT Logan Hall/Travis Jones, WR Pickens, Skye Moore, Christian Watson, TE McBride, S Brisker, LB Harris, DT Winfrey |
| ATH | Wyatt, WR Dotson, LB Quay Walker, DT Travis Jones, ED Logan Hall, S Pitre, WR Skye Moore, S Brisker |
| TDN | Wyatt, Dotson, Leal, Brisker, RB Spiller, DT Winfrey, WR David Bell, Skye Moore, Pitre, WR Metchie, ED Cam Thomas, WR C. Watson, ED Logan Hall |
| NFL | S Bryan Cook, Wyatt, IDL Travis Jones, Bonitto, Paschal, TE Cade Otten, ED Sam Williams, TE McBride, ED Dominique Robinson |
| WF | WR Wan Dale Robinson, LB Damone Clark, WR Alec Pierce, Dotson, DL Logan Hall, LB Quay Walker, WR Pickens, IDL Zach Carter |
PICK 53
I would only question the selections of Martin Emerson (another big cornerback), Myjai Sanders (228 pounds seems awfully small for an edge), and I do not love Sam Howell, but quarterbacks will be drafted. I am a little surprised that Zion Johnson lasted until pick 50.
The outside sources suggest Wyatt or Jahan Dotson. Wyatt might be the pick despite outside issues. Dotson is not a fit for Green Bay at 178 pounds and with Cobb and Amari Rodgers on the roster. Some good talent went off the board with only a few being players who are not fits in Green Bay, but there is still a nice assortment. The defensive tackle, edge positions and cornerback positions are starting to thin out, though. DeMarvin Leal is boom or bust but he has lots of talent and indifferent production. Travis Jones, Perrion Winfrey, and Logan Hall are very tempting. I have a thing for Pitre due to his ability to play the slot. I think he is a nice fit for Green Bay.
I think with Watson and Pickens on the board, the Packers will double up on wide receivers while they can. Putting need ahead of best player (arguably), the nod goes to Christian Watson.
| Picks 54 to 58 | |
| Gone | OGs Ed Ingram and Jamaree Salyer, ED Cam Thomas, WR J. Metchie, DT DeMarvin Leal |
| POS | WR Pickens/Moore/Tolbert, OT Lucas/Rasheed Walker; IOL Strange/Sean Rhyan TE McBride/Likely, DL Logan Hall/Travis Jones; ED Bonitto/Paschal; ILB Harris, Asomoah, Muma; CB Tariq Woolen, Alontae Taylor; S Brisker/Jalen Pitre |
| CON | WR Dotson, S Pitre, RB Hall, DT Logan Hall/Travis Jones, WR Pickens, Skye Moore, TE McBride, S Brisker, LB Christian Harris, DT Perrion Winfrey, LB Quay Walker, Muma, Bonitto, Leo Chanel, CB Woolen |
| ATH | Wyatt, WR Dotson, LB Quay Walker, DT Travis Jones, ED Logan Hall, S Pitre, WR Skye Moore, S Brisker |
| TDN | Wyatt, Dotson, Brisker, RB Spiller, DT Winfrey, WR David Bell, Skye Moore, Pitre, ED Logan Hall, DT Travis Jones, Sean Ryhan |
| NFL | S Bryan Cook, Wyatt, IDL Travis Jones, Bonitto, Paschal, TE Cade Otten, ED Sam Williams, TE McBride, ED Dominique Robinson |
| WF | WR Wan Dale Robinson, LB Damone Clark, WR Alec Pierce, Dotson, DL Logan Hall, LB Quay Walker, WR Pickens, IDL Zach Carter |
PICK 59
I have more issues with the players the simulator selected for other teams. 54 is too high for Ingram. Ditto for Salyer. I was sorry to see Cameron Thomas come off the board. Someone is going to pull the trigger on Leal at some point, and this seems like the right area of the draft. I am not the biggest fan of Metchie, but I also can see his allure.
There is still a lot of talent left. The two top tight ends, two promising defensive linemen, a couple of edge rushers and a couple of safeties with versatility. Sam Williams had charges dropped against him. He checks all the boxes: talent, fit with the scheme, need, and he is a great athlete. Williams does turn 23. Any of Brisker, Winfrey, Travis Jones or Logan Hall would be excellent. I like Pitre's fit with the Packers and one has to consider TE Trey McBride.
The pick is Edge Logan Hall, age 22. I view him as the 5-technique I've coveted for the last several years.
| Picks 60 to 91 | |
| Gone | CB Bryant, DE Harrison, TE Wydermyer, WR Skye Moore, Jahan Dotson, CB Kendrick, LB Clark, Tindall, S Brisker, CB Evans, WR WanDale Robinson, DE Foskey, QB Strong, Armstrong, TE McBride, OC Ford, DE Carter, LB Muma, S Brandon Joseph, DB Alontae Taylor, DT Wyatt, IOL West, IOL Ryhan, DT Winfrey, WR Pierce, S Pitre, WR Doubs, OT Braxton Jones, DT Tyler Davis, ED Sam Williams, DE Alex Wright |
| POS | WR Pickens/Tolbert, OT Lucas/Rasheed Walker; IOL Cole Strange/Dylan Parham, TE Likely, Otten, Ruckert, Kolar, DL Travis Jones; ED Bonitto/Paschal; ILBs C.Harris and Brian Asomoah, CB Tariq Woolen; S Nick Cross, Kerby Joseph |
| CON | RB Breece Hall, DL Travis Jones, WR Pickens, LB C. Harris, Quay Walker, ED Nik Bonitto, LB Chenal |
| ATH | LB Quay Walker, DT Travis Jones, LB C Harris, WR Pickens, OC Jurgens, CB Taylor-Britt, LB Chenal |
| TDN | RB Spiller, DL Travis Jones, CB Woolen, IOL Parham, ILB C Harris, ED Paschal, WR Calvin Austin, Pickens |
| NFL | S Bryan Cook, IDL Travis Jones, Bonitto, Paschal, TE Cade Otten, ED Dominique Robinson, IOL Cole Strange, S Nick Cross, CB Marcus Jones, LB Quay Walker, OT Luke Goedeke, TE Dulcich |
| WF | WR Alec Pierce, LB Quay Walker, WR Pickens, IDL Zach Carter, CB Aykaleb Evans, RB Robinson, RB Spiller, Paschal, OT Rasheed Walker, LB Smith, TE Kolar |
It seems to me that the players the simulator chose for other teams is a pretty solid group. Once again, it leaves plenty of prospects who can improve the Packers' team.
NT Travis Jones and Quay Walker are popular. IOL Cole Strange is a great athlete who checks all of the Packers' requirement, though he turns 24 in July. ILB Brian Asomoah is not listed but he could replace Krys Barnes, which would be a good thing (or just my pet peeve?). ILB Christian Harris continues his slide, but there are some other Will linebackers still on the board. There are some tight ends worthy of pick 92.
I just think Travis Jones should have been selected considerably earlier. He is a little redundant but too good to pass up. He is the pick.
To recapitulate, I picked WR Jameson Williams, OT Trevor Penning, WR Christian Watson, Edge Logan Hall and DL Travis Jones. I missed TE Trey McBride (and Wydermeyer for that matter), but there are a number of tight ends still on the board including Ruckert, Kolar, Jake Ferguson, Jelani Woods, and Dulcich, so perhaps one or more of them will be there at 132 or 140. I had hoped to snag a slot defender, be it a safety or cornerback, but I had my chances.
I have some qualms about Williams and Watson in terms of getting help for the 2022 season. To me, they are attempts to hit a home run. I console myself with the thought that Velus Jones, Danny Gray and Nailor are still available.
It was interesting using these big boards. I included The Draft Network, NFL/Zuerlein, Walter Football, and The Athletic. I do not love all of them, particularly Walter Football, which seems to have enthusiasms for certain players, but those who like WF love it.
If you have you own big board, feel free to lay out your big board in the comments. Just listing your top five or ten players at some or all of the positions could be interesting, especially if you put the round the players becomes good value in parenthesis after the names. Be wary as I might annoy my teenager by asking him yet again how to take and store screen shots!
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Comments (100)
MooPack
April 25, 2022 at 10:04 pm
You may have to redo if Waller gets traded for, since they may lose a pick.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 25, 2022 at 10:48 pm
That is not happening. That is, GB might trade for Waller, but there is no way I am writing this article again. Beside, I still might want to draft a TE in the fourth or fifth even if GB does make that trade.
BirdDogUni
April 25, 2022 at 11:11 pm
Well done Jim...
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 06:29 am
Hilarious. The brutal honesty of those 4 words…
Nice work, TGR.
Not a reflection on you, but, those players being available, especially Williams, Penning, Watson and Jones, seems more fantasy than reality. Williams will require a significant trade up. Penning? With all of those teams ahead of us needing OT? I’d be shocked if he makes it to 22. Trevor Jones with the 93 is kind of a big exclamation point…
This is why I’ll never hit a simulator.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 08:00 am
I agree with you about those players available. One thing about the draft thou is there actually will be some of those players available. That’s because every year there are 3rd round mock draft players actually drafted in round 2 and even some in late round 1 in some years.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 26, 2022 at 08:20 am
Too true. I did try to look at the players selected by the simulator for other teams to see how many reaches there were. Looking at 1 to 21, there is going to be a mighty nice-looking player available at 22 and again at 28. If Penning and Jameson Williams do get selected during the 1-21 pick thing, then I can only hope that Matt Corral/London and Enagbare/Green aren't those guys. But I'd be fine if Karlaftis, Jordan Davis, or Olave got pushed down to GB.
I think Travis Jones and Logan Hall go in the forties. Looking at this in print, I like a lot of the players that the simulator actually took, so I am optimistic about talent I love at positions I think GB needs fitting into the center of a Venn diagram on Thursday.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 09:35 am
I can’t even imagine how much work it is for them to figure the draft out beforehand. Having to figure out all the different scenarios that could happen in the draft as a whole much less just round one and two. Regarding scenarios I would think most of that time is spent on the first two rounds, then after that it’s a list of players ranked by who you want.
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 12:20 pm
The way I look at it, there’s ONE Travis Jones. I just can’t really know or say what other teams think about him.
If I were making the picks for GB, it would be Travis Jones and any of Karlaftis, Pickens or Burks - in that order - with my first two.
Saw Prisco mocking Hamilton to GB this morning… that would throw a wrench. Would have ZERO problems with Hamilton at 22. Jones 28…
Gil Brandt, a trusted name in these matters, called Burks & Jones to GB MONTHS AGO.
*** More importantly, he SEES the Packers dire need for talent infusion at DL… as well as WR.
Should Wyatt drop to us, I would consider taking Watt 22 AND Jones at 28. “Take that, Kenny Clark!” I’m sure he’d love it, and such a move could propel GB into an ELITE DEFENSE.
Imagine shutting every down with our D. Both LB and DB units would benefit immensely by this kind of DL talent infusion.
Coldworld
April 25, 2022 at 09:58 pm
Interesting. Picking for post Rodgers with the WRs. Sadly, this draft class doesn’t have much that is convincing “now” talent. You just went to the extreme end of future over now. I like the other picks.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 25, 2022 at 10:45 pm
You might just have been the person I had in mind when i picked Williams and then Watson!
I know some have dumped on Olave, but i am fairly comfortable with the notion that he could come in and put up 750 yards in GB as a rookie. Taking the "safe" pick and then trying for the home run would have been easier.
Do you get the impression that there will be guys with good talent, fit, need and age available at each pick? I didn't think the simulator was too unrealistic. Not sure why Hall and Jones dropped. Stingley went 20th!
Looked to me like 132 was likely to have guys I liked available. That would have been 39 more players, then 7 more for pick 140.
although it was tedious updating the consensus boards for each pick, I think I got a good idea about things going into the draft.
Rokkstar
April 26, 2022 at 12:03 am
Bad simulation. I'm involved in 5-7 simulation sites constantly from February through the draft, and we all see terrible simulations; some sites more than others, but even the best sites have their boner sims.
LLCHESTY
April 26, 2022 at 12:50 am
I think they will be real interested in Tolbert if he's there at 59. He has the size/speed they look for(not the fastest 40 but a real fast 10 yard split) and has run more varied routes than most college players. He seems like the 2nd tier guy that can come in and help right away. The route chart I saw last week showed Pickens mainly running two routes and a lot of the others only running mainly three. Burks was another exception but he ran a ton of short stuff and go routes and not much intermediate stuff.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 08:09 am
Burks is an interesting prospect. One that plays most like Deebo. I really think he fits best with a team that has an offense like Shannohan. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. I checked the top 5 best Mock drafted as rated by the Huddle and 4 out of 5 have the Packers taking Burks with pick 22.
Coldworld
April 26, 2022 at 08:54 am
Will his athleticism suffice? Slowish and lacking short area burst and elusiveness. A guy that tests significantly slower (7.28) than Lazard (7.11) and Tonyan (7.12) in the three cone and declined to retest ought to concern teams. His vertical is poor too and his broad and ten yard split just Ok. That’s where scouting comes in: over to you FO.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 09:39 am
Watson did a 38.5 vertical and broad jumped over 11 feet! Poor??
Wow, you grade hard.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 11:35 am
Think he was talking about Burks, but I'm just guessing.
About now, with the draft only two days away, is the time I quit worrying and just figure Gutey and his guys have done their job and what will be will be.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 01:50 pm
If CW was talking about Burks, got it. And my bad, CW.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 03:14 pm
Yes, CW those are his drills, but when watching tape you see something different. Yes, that is for the FO to figure out.
Leatherhead
April 26, 2022 at 09:11 pm
As regards his jumping ability, have you seen this guy making all those leaping, high-point catches ? That would be the least of my concerns. He’s 225 lbs. and easily the most physical receiver in the draft.
There are several blue chip big guy WR, but I think he’s the best of the bunch.
Lots of guys are slower than Lazard, because he is faster than his critics think he is. When Lazard is in full stride , he’s moving pretty fast.
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 04:56 pm
I think Burks turns out to be the better Pro. Burks is underrated. When Athlon makes him #17 overall? Over Olave, Karlaftis, Penning… Pickens… Davis…McDuffie, Dax, London. Leal…
Watson didn’t make the Top 100…
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 06:19 pm
*They dropped the ball on Watson then. ; )
Burks reminds me of Antwan Bolden, except Bolden ran a 4.71 and Burks ran a 4.55. Different times, but I feel like they're the same player.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 06:25 pm
I think Boldin is the best comp I've heard!
greengold
April 27, 2022 at 06:56 am
Anquan Boldin. Likely, the TOUGHEST WR I’ve ever seen.
I’ve seriously been craving that kind of toughness at WR for the Packers for years. Wanted Deebo or Mecole Hardman… because they reminded me of Boldin.
This year IMO, Erik Ezukanma and Chig Okonkwo are those guys. Maybe adding both, WITH Treylon Burks is the way to go…
Antonio Freeman was tough. That’s what this team needs again.
Inspired by this conversation, here’s what I believe would be a dream improvement to our WR room, our DL, our EDGE depth, our DB depth, our OT depth and our run stop:
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22 WR George Pickens
28 DT Travis Jones
53 EDGE Sam Williams
59 WR Velus Jones
93 WR Erik Ezukanma
132 OT/C Zach Tom
140 TE Chig Okonkwo
171 S Bubba Bolden
228 OT Cordell Volson
249 CB Mario Goodrich
258 EDGE Ali Fayad
Pickens, to me, is too good to pass up, and he’s ranked higher than Burks by Athlon, who I trust. IMO, he may be the only bona fide #1WR walking into this draft. His toughness exemplified by coming back from his Spring ACL to compete at the end of the year. The thing I’m troubled by with Burks is his heavy reception totals behind the LOS on screens. Over the top usage there. Pickens being the better route runner and more diverse, Pro-ready WR talent gets the nod for me.
Adding both VJJ and EZ will help lessen Pickens’ use as he gets back up to speed. Both are TOP #1-2 in After Catch Production = JET.
Chig, his positives are through the roof in being the best blocker coming into this draft in his class, the fastest TE in his class, and more of a pristine perfect, TOUGH receiver/JET facilitator, than that conventional TE we’ve known as a coveted prototype. I don’t care that we have Deguara. He’s not Chig. Having both? HELLS to the YES!
**** I want to see these JET concepts working, non-stop, and not dependent upon just one or two players (blocker/runner). The above additions of VJJ, EZ, Chig insures a steady stream of talent to employ these JET concepts the way LaFleur originally intended. (Side note: Olave would inhibit this, where VJJ-EZ-Chig make them GO!)
**** One other note on VJJ: I believe him to be the next best #1WR candidate in this draft class behind Pickens. He’s effective from anywhere, slot, split, flanker, and can take the top off of ANY defense in the NFL. Proven effectiveness in Power 5 programs. Might need to take him higher. Not a joke.
Bolden a perfect Day 3 add at S. Volson and Goodrich would be absolute steals this late, as is Fayad.
Packers can add RB and OG in UDFA, along with another K, CB to fill things out.
PackEyedOptimist
April 27, 2022 at 05:59 am
I know the quality you mean, but it's hard to put the right name on it. "Tough" isn't quite right, because I think a lot of the Packers' receivers are/have been tough, including Lazard, Davante, Cobb, etc. I think what you mean is a combination of "tough" and prone-to-physically-imposing-their-will (choosing contact over eluding, etc.)
I think Jameson Williams and George Pickens both are like that, but both are thinner than one normally pictures for that type.
PackEyedOptimist
April 27, 2022 at 06:38 am
Sam Williams at #53? 23 years old, and had sexual battery charges. Too early for me.
greengold
April 27, 2022 at 06:55 am
Did GB bring him in for a visit? They have done their due diligence prior to that visit. Had there been anything to that, he wouldn’t have been invited. GB has decades of investment in investigative resources.
Williams will not last into R3, IMO.
LLCHESTY
April 26, 2022 at 01:12 am
Here's that route chart. Williams routes were fairly varied too, he also released a video yesterday doing some light running and a couple drills/rehab exercises. Guy has some seriously skinny upper legs!
https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1514751794508877827?t=14fM81Z...
PackEyedOptimist
April 27, 2022 at 06:05 am
Interesting that Pickens is the only one to have run every route. He and Williams are the two who most "look like NFL receivers" on tape. Getting both is one of my dream scenarios.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 08:05 am
I’m not convinced Williams won’t be available at the start of the year. September 10th is 8 months almost the exact time it took Pickens from Georgia to come back from his spring football ACL injury. He started playing in November. Also, it was stated he is ahead of schedule….take that like a grain of salt. I totally agree he is a top 10 talent and would be drafted there if it wasn’t for the injury. He is the most talented WR in the draft IMO. Nothing like a Bama WR who day in and day out has to go up against Bama’s defense in practice.
Coldworld
April 26, 2022 at 08:36 am
Any rookie needs a preseason. He won’t have one. That’s a huge disadvantage. Also, since WRs need to put great stress on the injured area cutting, we shouldn’t assume that he will be fully himself next season even if he gets healthy enough to play. I trust our medical staff to be cautious, but I don’t think he’s a sure bet to be ready. With Rodgers return, the opportunity cost is too high I suspect.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 03:16 pm
I won’t debate that point CW, there is a definite risk in drafting him and not having pre-season is a concern. But, I still think he is head and shoulders above the others talent wise.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 09:47 am
I was talking to my doctor about the Packers and ACL injuries. I asked if what I heard was true...that ACL tears, especially in young adults with todays surgical technology and rehab, the ACL actually heals to be even stronger. He said "absolutely not". There will always be lingering physical and psychological effects".
Hard pass on Williams with an injury and a likely redshirt rookie year...and only one year of solid production.
Same for Ojabo, with his Achilles tear which almost always take a year to heal.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 03:25 pm
Not sure about what type of Doctor you talked to. I read a study by the American Journal of Medicine that states they won’t lose their athletic ability. I’ll take a study over one Doctor. Also, there are many, many examples of young athletics coming back similar to before their surgery. They state it will take anywhere from 4-9 months. Obviously, it can take longer but like with Peterson it was about 5-6 months and he was older. Pickens started playing after 8 months last year.
Coldworld
April 26, 2022 at 08:45 am
TGR, I do get the impression that we can find good WR prospects throughout the draft. The same is true of OL. Rushers too in the top half and, to a lesser extent S. DL is at the top and then late developmental value only. The TE class is one where I’m dubious about the high rated value.
If this was a post Rodgers draft, or Rodgers was ten years younger, I think we’d be in clover. As things stand, the question is are we serious about winning it all? If we are then we need to draft for now at WR. Olave is one who is NFL ready in terms of routes and skill set, but he’s going to need to be used cleverly to offset his need to spend time in the weight room. Can LaFleur come up with a way to handle that? He’s no use if he gets hurt.
At this point I don’t know if we get a top 5 receiver falling to 22. My inclination is to add extra picks If not. The group there offers various permutations that should allow us to put together a viable influx at WR, OLB, S and OL going into round 4. Extra picks in the 2 or third are valuable this year. I think the 4th too, but so might be the ability to move up in the third and 4th.
We will need to focus on players that we think can come in and fill roles now at WR. That means not focusing on making everyone a full route tree receiver from scratch. I’m concerned that we will. It is exactly what we did with Rodgers last year and that was a failure. We should have just worked him in on limited routes and option plays: what he ran in college if we wanted to give him a chance.
We also need to avoid players with a lot of technical issues to straighten out. That’s often seemingly overlooked by many. Get them in, get them comfortable, be willing to change personnel (not a lot of that last year) to match current skill sets and thus maximize the potential to contribute this year.
Pick your developmental initially ST contributors later and restart the pipeline too. There are a number of exciting developmental prospects that we can pick up in the last 2 rounds: no need to do so in the first at a cost of current yards.
It should be fun, personally I’m skeptical about the chances of this draft starting as expected. I’m optimistic Gute will go for contribution now again early. Let’s hope we find more Stokes level contributors early, at whichever positions we pick first.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 04:17 pm
Agree CW. My own top receivers (and ages) are as follows:
10. Jameson Williams | WR Alabama (21)
11. Drake London | WR USC (20)
19. Treylon Burks | WR Arkansas (22)
20. Chris Olave | WR Ohio State (21)
21. Garrett Wilson | WR Ohio State (21)
27. Christian Watson | WR North Dakota State (22)
28. George Pickens | WR Georgia (21)
I'd be fine with BG taking any of them at 22 or 28 if that's where he likes them, but I have a lot of other players who are higher on my board, every time I do a mock-sim.
I've vacillated a lot on where Watson should go, everywhere from 3rd to 7th.
BirdDogUni
April 25, 2022 at 11:15 pm
I could be wrong, but I think if Jameson Williams makes it to 22 Gutey drafts him. Value is too great to pass and as Gutey said today: The draft is about the future of the ball club.
Personally, I don't think Jameson Williams makes it to 22 tbh.
LLCHESTY
April 26, 2022 at 12:15 am
I don't Travis Jones makes it out of the 1st round, if he does l doubt he gets far into the 2nd. Teams that have pushed down or removed Wyatt from their boards will look at Jones as a suitable replacement. I think the media boards look at him as just a NT where teams will view him as more. Plus it gets pretty thin after the top 5 at DT.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 11:44 am
They can't all go in the 1st round, that is simply a fact. If Travis Jones goes in the first round, who of the top rated players falls out of the 1st round? Trent McDuffie? Trevor Penning? Dax Hill? Nakobe Dean? I think Travis Jones goes 33 - 42, but that's just me.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 02:05 pm
I went and revisited my Predict the Pick choices. I think you might be right Chesty...
I have Penning going 22 to the Packers and Kaiir Elam at 28.
I have KC taking Travis Jones at 29 and Christian Watson at 30.
(I wish Gutey would take Jones and Watson, instead of Penning and Elam tbh!)
Coldworld
April 26, 2022 at 08:47 am
Agree with you on Williams. I may not think he’s a wise pick for us, but for teams in more normal circumstances he’s one that should be in demand early, if not as early as he might have been healthy.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 06:28 pm
I agree BDU. I think if Williams is there at 22, BG takes him, and I'm completely good with that. Guy's going to be a superstar.
Rokkstar
April 26, 2022 at 01:39 am
Well, I think Jameson Williams being there at 22 is 50/50; regardless, I think it difficult for Gute to pull that trigger considering the likelihood he sits (maybe til next year) and Rodgers is here for "win now". I understand the pick, and lord knows I would make that pick myself. I just don't see it though. Putting my goggles on, I see ED Karlaftis dropping, and OT Penning being available, both at 22. THIS is what I believe will be the toughest decision of this draft, one that I think will lean towards Penning since edge has an abundance of choices throughout, and if Karlaftis falls this far, he may also just make it to 28, considering the team needs at 23-27. Talking of 28, I see another difficult choice between WR Burks, S Daxton Hill, DL Devonta Wyatt, a falling ED Karlaftis, and a rising WR Pickens. Gute can't believe his luck and chooses Karlaftis, sending me roses the very next day, early morning, and with a card.
No WR's yet?? That's because there is talent deep into this group. At 53, and my biggest draft crush, DL Travis Jones is right there for the taking; ultra athletic (WR in disguise I'm thinkin'??) and could probably keep up with Baktiari in a beer guzzle. He's my man in this draft, watch for his production in 2022. Safety will play into that decision too though, but Jones is just too good of a fit. Woh is me though, passing on Daxton Hill in the 1st, and Pitre in the 2nd, as I've ignored two Safties perfect for the slot role AND taking over for Savage next year (as my roses wilt). But moving on, this draft is deep, and WR Alec Pierce just looks so damn good at 59 (yeah, I seddit), and on top of that, Gute will get roasted for not picking at least 1 WR during the first couple rounds (I'd light the match). Pierce's tape rocks, he's a great fit, and Rodgers will fall in love with the guy after mistakenly referring to him as Jordy for 2 months. He also is much more prepared for the NFL right now than Watson.
Add WR Romeo Doubs at 92 (another draft crush) and I'm happy with my first 3 rounds, actually overjoyed, and I know that I will find quality at TE, S and/or ILB in the 4th round (think TE Ruckert regardless of the Waller sitch, and S Tycen Anderson). Pick 171 would be a great time to take a flyer on ILB Damone Clark, who's gonna sit this year after back surgery, but is much MUCH more talented than a late 5th round pick. I would be jumping up and down heading into Sunday church, while Gute's shaking my hand, if I was making these picks. Gute says "let's toast Rokkstar, and his beloved Weemu the Emu. Gimme the wine!! Hip Hip hooray!!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!!! MORE WINE!!!... Let us be thankful this day that I still have a job, RIGHT GUYS.... right guys?.... guys????........".
22 OT Trevor Penning
28 ED George Karlaftis
53 DT Travis Jones
59 WR Alec Pierce
92 WR Romeo Doubs
132 TE Jeremy Ruckert
140 S Tycen Anderson
171 LB Damone Clark (for next year)
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 08:12 am
Build the trenches and still get a couple of 2nd tier WR’s, I could live with that! I think Karlaftis could be a great pick.
blondy45
April 26, 2022 at 12:35 pm
I am not a Karlaftis fan. I do not care for ANY WR that we would have to trade up for before pick 22. Sign me up for NT Jordan Davis, OT Zion Johnson, S Lewis Cine, OT Trevor Penning, DL Logan Hall, or WR George Pickens in no order for picks 22 & 28. I would prefer we pick players early where the depth is not as deep, such as DL or Safety. I still hope Jax. is in a trading mood for pick 28! Target WR Jalen Tolbert for pick 53-59. Is it Thursday night yet?
Rokkstar
April 27, 2022 at 03:36 am
DL is definitely weak this year, and lacking depth. The late second round just happens to be the sweet spot this draft for DL in that the value will be right. I truly don't expect Travis Jones to be available at 53 like my post says, but it is a possibility, and would be one of those run to the podium times. Safety seems fairly deep to me this year, regardless of what "experts" are saying. Heck, if you count Hill and Pitre as safeties, the 2nd round has a few good ones to choose from, including Cine and Brisker; then 3 more choice picks in the 3rd in Joseph, Cook and Cross... heck, I even like some of the 4th rnd candidates in J.T. Woods, Tycen Anderson, Belton, McKinley and Butler. So I think there's more there than many think. I like the players you've listed though.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 26, 2022 at 08:35 am
Damone Clark was selected with the 66th pick. That is much too high in my estimation. Some sites hold him in high regard and others view him as a day three guy.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 09:58 am
I would take a long look at Clark 92. He would be a great wingman for Campbell and a huge upgrade over Campbell IMO.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 10:10 am
Well, that was an uniformed comment LambeauPlain! I missed that Clark slipped and hurt his back and needed spinal fusion surgery in late March. Never-mind.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 10:48 pm
Once you get past 50, there are going to be a great many surprises, just like always.
Rokkstar
April 27, 2022 at 03:38 am
Back surgery. Won't be available til 2023. That's why I like him in the 5th rnd.
LLCHESTY
April 26, 2022 at 12:55 am
This would be about my ideal draft. I went down a few spots early and got guys right around where I like them. Would've liked a high RAS LB or TE in the 7th for STs but with only one O lineman thought competition there was more important.
28.
Lewis Cine
S Georgia
36.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma
57.
Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati
62.
Jalen Tolbert
WR South Alabama
67.
Nik Bonitto
EDGE Oklahoma
92.
Jelani Woods
TE Virginia
112.
Josh Paschal
EDGE Kentucky
130.
Zach Tom
OT Wake Forest
132.
Darrian Beavers
LB Cincinnati
171.
Bo Melton
WR Rutgers
228.
Jaylen Watson
CB Washington State
249.
Ryan Van Demark
OT Connecticut
258.
Blaise Andries
OG Minnesota
2023 NYG 4th
2023 KC 4th
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 10:09 am
That's a pretty good haul...lots of value.
croatpackfan
April 26, 2022 at 02:43 am
Huge job TGR. Bravo!
If you indeed look at future with your "mock" I do believe you are right.
I'll say that Aaron was looking for trade, but he was not able to find the trading partner (regarding his high requested conditions) and he agreed to play another season for Packers at highest salary. Just to give Packers time to develop Jordan Love under the tutelage of Tom Clements.
I know this is unpopular view, but all what happened logically leads to that conclusion. It is question if Packers can win SB this season with so many holes in the roster, but who can say? More strange things were happened in the past (like Ravens win over Niners in that SB).
After this post season events I truly expect retirement after 2022 season to be announced by Aaron Rodgers.
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 08:15 am
Croat….every team has holes, but I would not describe the Packers as having “so many holes”. They have one of the more complete rosters in the NFL right now.
croatpackfan
April 26, 2022 at 08:46 am
Maybe, but when you look at possible injuries to some positions you'll find a lot of question marks in capabilities of replacements.
Packers have almost complety very good starter group of players, but behind them is what can be worrisome...
murf7777
April 26, 2022 at 09:25 am
Yes, that’s very true….with the cap these days ya just can’t fill’em all.
blondy45
April 26, 2022 at 12:40 pm
True Murf, but with multiple draft picks this year, the Pack needs to "stock up". Cap hell is waiting again next year.
gsd3
April 26, 2022 at 04:47 am
Mock draft simulation boards have wildly different rankings. The only board that really matters is Gute's. I've done mocks where it ends up in fantasyland and others that end up....crappy. I'll just list some guys I would be happy with throughout the draft regardless of position.
OL:
Zach Tom - Has played every position at a high level.
Abraham Lucas
DL:
Winfrey, Wyatt, Jones, Hall - could develop into a good edge.
Edge:
Karlaftis, Ekibeitie, Mafe
Slot corner:
Marcus Jones - Small but had 5 picks and is the best punt return man by far.
Safety:
Hill, Woods, Anderson, Thomas
QB:
If Love is traded on draft day - Carson Strong
RB:
Pierre Strong Jr - Home run hitter
TE:
Woods - younger Lewis
Kolar - big, fast target
LB:
Anderson, Tindall. Late rounds - Campbell and Carpentar
CB:
McCollum, Castro-Fields
WR in order:
Williams, Burks, Pickens, Metchie, Tolbert.
I like Olave. Don't think he will be there at 22 and am not inclined to trade up for him. Long run, think Tolbert will be better.
Watson - Love the raw tools......not before #59 though. Someone else will bite sooner.
Moore - Not opposed to taking him. If he is a better slot than Rodgers or Cobb, so be it.
Later rounds I like Shakir, Thornton, and Velous Jones.
The thing with Williams or Metchie is that it would pay off long run but it's a must that another wideout that is ready to play is taken as well.
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 01:59 pm
gsd3
OL - I like Tom and Lucas a lot for the Packers. Trevor Penning, Tyler Smith, Darian Kinnard, Braxton Jones, Thayer Munford, Obinna Eze, Cordell Volson, Bam Olaseni and Rosenthal for OT. Zion Johnson, Jamaree Salyer, Lecitus Smith , Jason Poe OG
DL - liking all plus DT Phidarian Mathis & NTs Neil Ferrell Jr., Noah Elliss
EDGE - Like Karlaftis, Ebiketie, Cam Thomas, Sam Williams, Alex Wright, DeAngelo Williams and Michael Clemons
S - Hamilton, Cine, Pitre Cook, Cross, Brisker, Bolden
RB - Breece Hall, Rachaad White, Pierre Strong, Zamir White
TE - Woods, Dulcich, Okonkwo, Kolar, McBride - could reverse that order..
LB - Lloyd, Muma, Andersen, Tindall, DeMarco Jackson
CB - Mario Goodrich, Zyon McCollum, Cobie Durant, Joshua Williams - all of these players are super special
WR - Pickens, Jones, Ezukanma, Burks, Olave, Pierce, Watson, Bell, Thornton, Melton, Covey
Those are most of my favs.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 06:08 am
TGR:
22. WR Jameson Williams
28. OT Trevor Penning
53. WR Christian Watson
58. Edge Logan Hall
92. DL Travis Jones
Wow, I'd be OVERJOYED if this was what we had on the roster on Saturday morning
Hall and Jones at 58 and 92 would be crazy lucky.
Williams is without question in my mind the best WR in this draft, and will at least probably play late this year, which is plenty soon enough. He MAY end up better than Justin Jefferson--I like him more than I liked Jefferson going into his draft.
stockholder
April 26, 2022 at 07:34 am
The NFL has a Green room. The Best get to show up. It's stopping at 20 so far. So enter Brendan Donahue. Rated the most accurate, when it comes to mock draft success.
@22 he has Treylon Burks. He's the fit. A Durable WR with game changing ability. And then @28 he has Devonte Wyatt.
Sharp Football Analysis even gives yo the odds. And now you now who Gutey should pick. @22 Burks works.
But his testing numbers suggest for how long. My worry is the three cone. And he should have been invited to the green room.
Next; same with Wyatt. He was the second best DL on the board. But the numbers just don’t say he’s first round. I know we need one. But why get trapped taking him. If Christian Watson isn’t selected in front of KC. They’ll grasp at straws the rest of the draft.
The plan has to be Wrs.
jannesbjornson
April 26, 2022 at 10:14 am
That analysis moves to the front of the line and avoid the naysayers getting their pockets lined to sabotage the Team. Burks is not a Deebo guy. I would take London over him if push came to shove, but the Pack has Lazard and Watkins. Watson rises above the other stiffs with his ability to break down while in motion, like Olave. His hips are fluid and when they doubled him, he blew past the coverage, demonstrating big time RAC. He took punts and kickoffs to the House. Speed (4.36) at 6'-4 209, 38.5 elevation and a long jumper like Lofton equates to explosion.
These are the Fans that liked the Vonnie Holiday selection, (not re-signed another mistake) over MOSS.
MooPack
April 26, 2022 at 04:31 pm
Yeah, JB I remember that clearly. I wanted "the one who cannot be named" from Marshall in the worst way. Vonnie was serviceable, but I can't imagine anyone would want that choice again. Marshall, huh, a smaller school with no competition where he looked like a man among boys. Now where have we heard that again...?
It was a gut punch when he went to the Vikings. I hated the Vikings more than the Bears. I grew up in the 70's. Vikings gave me fits. And I hated him while he was there, but I believe the Packers would have had at least another trophy in the case with him. Then I got a second gut punch when Ol' Ted 'what's free agency' Thompson lowballed a draft contract for him and Belichick rope-a-doped him at the last minute. Another time a SB would have happened.
I would hope they don't make the same mistake again, this time with the Bears sitting at #39. Seen a couple of mocks with him taken there.
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 04:47 pm
Randy Moss was the pick. Supposed to be… A shame Ron Wolf failed to step aside, or agree Holmgren should be the successor, and make plans with Holmgren for that smooth transition. Could have been, should have been … magic.
Instead… The wheels came off, freaking bounding away in all directions. Started before SB XXXII during the media sessions. Bing! There goes a wheel. Boom! There goes another… It was a long ride down from greatness.
You pass on Randy Moss kinda darkness…
Jesus Christ. How the F did this even get started? I hope I didn’t do it…lol…!
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 08:05 am
PackEyedOptimists 2022 Big Board (Who I would take) followed by age
1. Evan Neal | OT Alabama 22
Ikem Ekwonu | OT North Carolina State 21
Charles Cross | OT Mississippi State 21
Kayvon Thibodeaux | ED Oregon 21
Aidan Hutchinson | ED Michigan 22
Kyle Hamilton | S Notre Dame 21
Travon Walker | DE Georgia 21
Devin Lloyd | LB Utah 23
Jordan Davis | DT Georgia 22
10. Jameson Williams | WR Alabama 21
Drake London | WR USC 20
Nakobe Dean | ILB Georgia 21
Derek Stingley Jr. | CBLSU 20
Kaiir Elam | CB Florida 20
Daxton Hill | S Michigan 22
Jermaine Johnson II | ED Florida State 23
Jalen Pitre | S Baylor 23
Lewis Cine | S Georgia 23
Treylon Burks | WR Arkansas 22
20. Chris Olave | WR Ohio State 21
Garrett Wilson | WR Ohio State 21
22. Ahmad Gardner | CB Cincinnati 21
Andrew Booth Jr. | CB Clemson 22
Trevor Penning | OT Northern Iowa 22
George Karlaftis | ED Purdue 21
Kenyon Green | G Texas A&M 21
Christian Watson | WR North Dakota State 22
28. George Pickens | WR Georgia 21
Tyler Linderbaum | C Iowa 22
30. Travis Jones | DT UConn 23
Bernhard Raimann | OT Central Michigan 25
Jaquan Brisker | S Penn State 23
Nick Cross | S Maryland 21
Leo Chenal | LB Wisconsin 22
David Ojabo | ED Michigan 21
Drake Jackson | ED USC 21
Quay Walker | LB Georgia 21
Christian Harris | LB Alabama 21
Zion Johnson | G Boston College 22
40. Tyler Smith OT Tulsa 21
Abraham Lucas | OT Washington State 23
Trey McBride | TE Colorado State 22
Chad Muma | LB Wyoming 22
Alec Pierce | WR Cincinnati 21
Logan Hall | DT Houston 22
Khalil Shakir | WR Boise State 22
Troy Andersen | LB Montana State 23
Channing Tindall | LB Georgia 22
Brian Asamoah | LB Oklahoma 22
50. Boye Mafe | ED Minnesota 23
Devonte Wyatt | DT Georgia 24
Perrion Winfrey | DT Oklahoma 22
53. Arnold Ebiketie | ED Penn State 23
Jalen Tolbert | WR South Alabama 23
Jahan Dotson | WR Penn State 22
Trent McDuffie | CB Washington 22
Roger McCreary | CB Auburn 22
Kyler Gordon | CB Washington 22
59. Greg Dulcich | TE UCLA 22
60. Jelani Woods | TE Virginia 23
Sean Rhyan | OT UCLA 22
Nicholas Petit-Frere OT Ohio State 23
Cole Strange | G Chattanooga 24
Matt Waletzko | OT North Dakota 23
Cade Otton | TE Washington 23
Nik Bonitto | ED Oklahoma 23
Skyy Moore | WR Western Michigan 22
Bo Melton | WR Rutgers 22
David Bell | WR Purdue 21
70. Isaiah Spiller | RB Texas A&M 21
Kenneth Walker III | RB Michigan State 22
Kenny Pickett | QB Pittsburgh 24
Desmond Ridder | QB Cincinnati 23
Sam Howell | QB North Carolina 22
Velus Jones WR Tennessee 24
Jeremy Ruckert | TE Ohio State 22
Isaiah Likely | TE Coastal Carolina 22
Charlie Kolar | TE Iowa State 23
Breece Hall | RB Iowa State 21
80. Kyren Williams | RB Notre Dame 22
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 08:07 am
It's possible I'll make adjustments before Thursday, but this should be close. It is not a prediction; it is "PEO as GM of the Packers." I heavily consider age and locker room fit as best I can. It's tempting to take anyone who will be a 24 or 25 year old rookie off my top 100; there is a huge amount of growth every year in the 20-25 age span.
*Note that Drake London will be a TWENTY year old rookie!
jannesbjornson
April 26, 2022 at 10:33 am
The older rookies have better training and one would hope a bit more Confidence and Maturity. No one trashed WWII vets coming back and playing Pro Ball after their tours, or Rocky Blier.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 26, 2022 at 10:43 am
Thanks for this. I gather you didn't like McDuffie at 22? LOL. No worries, I would have taken Sauce Gardner. Clearly this is a GB only big board, which is fine and maybe better since it is more useful anyway. I figured that out because there are no QBs until Howell (and I assume he isn't your top-graded QB) and no RBs until 70. Frankly, under that scenario, there would be no QBs in my top 150.
greengold
April 26, 2022 at 10:58 am
If I had set up a big board, I’d certainly share with you, TGR. I just have never done that. Simply compile my notes per position groups, a separate group for sleepers, and pretty much have pick ranges committed to memory…
Leatherhead
April 26, 2022 at 08:28 am
After way too many simulations, I'm sticking with what works for me:
1) Take Treylon Burks at #22.
2) Trade #28 to Minnesota for #46 and #77
3) At #46, take the best offensive lineman I can get. Probably Tyler Smith
4) At #53, take an Edge, like Mafe or Jackson
5) At #59, take a safety or Dlineman, like Pitre or Winfrey.
6) At #77, take the best offensive lineman I can get, probably Petite-Frere
7) At #92, take your TE. I like Ruckert, but others would work.
That's six picks in the top 92.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 09:33 am
I like your concepts, but for predictions I don't like trading. It's too much of an easy way out. I'm not taking Mafe until 92--he's too old for a project.
LambeauPlain
April 26, 2022 at 10:23 am
What day is it? Three days until the simulators begin to wane?
With the disruption of the Covid and corresponding lack of video and on field production, I see a roller coaster 3 days. I see more players dropping and being reached for than usual.
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 10:36 am
C'mon people! Post YOUR Big Boards!
I'm going to ignore anyone who says "I would have picked __" after the draft, if they didn't post a Big Board first! 2020 hindsight is the coward's play; don't be a coward!
:-)
Leatherhead
April 26, 2022 at 11:24 am
I go mostly by TheHuddleReport's Value Board.
I want the best player we can get at #22, and IMO, that's likely to be Treylon Burks. He can do more to help us than any other player that will be on the board at #22. More than any defender, more than any lineman. And by everything I've read and heard and watched, he's a good guy who'd be a good fit in Green Bay.
I would trade down from #28 to Minnesota in exchange for #46 and #77. So I'm done for the first day, and all I got was Burks.
But I come back on Day 2 armed with picks at #46, #53, #59, #77, and #92. At #46, the best OL on the board is probably going to be Tyler Smith. He'll start at RT.
At #53 and #59, I'm getting defenders. Pitre and Cam Thomas? Leal and Mafe? Lots of good defenders are on the board at that point.
At #77, I'm looking for a guy who can play center or guard. We don't know if Myers can hold up for a full season, and we don't have any real quality interior backups. So I'd look for a versatile interior guy like Jamaree Salyer.
And at #92, there's always a TE I like available. Sometimes it's Ruckert, or Woods, or Dulcich, but there's always a good TE available at #92.
That's my haul for the first three rounds: Burks and Ruckert, Pitre and Cam Thomas, Smith and Salyer. I still have two picks in the fourth, as well as picks in the 5th and 7th rounds.
stockholder
April 26, 2022 at 11:33 am
I would go with his board too. It's up to date. But I wouldn't take a player just because someone is rated higher.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 11:49 am
No way do I trade with viks. Ever. I'm taking BPA or trading with an AFC team. Never the viks.
Leatherhead
April 26, 2022 at 12:28 pm
I would relish the opportunity to screw the Purple in a trade.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 26, 2022 at 11:31 am
it is harder than i thought it would be! I will return to spruce it up if only because I am not truly honest. I am going to adopt your way and just write a list in order of the guys I would draft for GB rather than list guys who may be more talented or in demand but who are guys I would not take for GB.
blondy45
April 26, 2022 at 01:42 pm
My list for me to refer to later when few or none are picked by the Pack.
22. NT Jordan Davis, WR Treylon Burks, or WR Chris Olave
28. any above & S Lewis Cine, Edge Arnold Ebiketie, DL Logan Hall, or WR George Pickens.
53. any above & WR Jalen Tolbert, WR Christian Watson, DL Travis Jones, or S Jaquan Brisker.
59 any above & OG Tyler Smith, OT Daniel Faalele, WR John Metchie, or DL DeMarvin Leal.
92. any above & TE Greg Dulcich, WR Calvin Austin, OT Abraham Lucas, WR Alex Pierce.
132. any above & TE Jelani Woods, OT Zach Tom, RB Rachaad White, or OT Kellen Diesch
140. any above & CB Akeyleb Evans, WR Romeo Doubs, or Edge Dominique Robinson
171.any above & WR Velus Jones, OT Mike Waletzko, Edge Amare Barno, or WR Tyquan Thorton.
228. any above & WR Dontario Drummond, RB Zamir White, or OLB Jesse Luketa
249. any above & P Matt Ariza, P Jordan Stout, S Cordale Flott, or ILB D'Marko Jackson,
258. any above & OLB Mike Rose, WR Jalen Nailor, Edge Isaiah Thomas.
I hope to trade Jax. 28 for: 33-106-180.
PackEyedOptimist
April 27, 2022 at 06:54 am
Made some changes at the top of my BB:
1. Evan Neal | OT Alabama 22
Ikem Ekwonu | OT North Carolina State 21
Charles Cross | OT Mississippi State 21
Kayvon Thibodeaux | ED Oregon 21
Aidan Hutchinson | ED Michigan 22
Kyle Hamilton | S Notre Dame 21
Travon Walker | DE Georgia 21
Devin Lloyd | LB Utah 23
Jordan Davis | DT Georgia 22
10. Jameson Williams | WR Alabama 21
Drake London | WR USC 20
Nakobe Dean | ILB Georgia 21
Derek Stingley Jr. | CBLSU 20
Kaiir Elam | CB Florida 20
Daxton Hill | S Michigan 22
Jermaine Johnson II | ED Florida State 23
Jalen Pitre | S Baylor 23
Lewis Cine | S Georgia 23
Treylon Burks | WR Arkansas 22
20. Christian Watson | WR North Dakota State 22
George Pickens | WR Georgia 21
22. Ahmad Gardner | CB Cincinnati 21
Andrew Booth Jr. | CB Clemson 22
Trevor Penning | OT Northern Iowa 22
George Karlaftis | ED Purdue 21
Kenyon Green | G Texas A&M 21
Chris Olave | WR Ohio State 21
28. Garrett Wilson | WR Ohio State 21
Thegreatreynoldo
April 28, 2022 at 02:01 pm
Wow, I really don't like what I've written below. I am going to save it for now and go back and edit it. I don't really like Linderbaum, but I was thinking about draft order and not who I as GM would take. I would not consider him at 22 or 28.
My big board:
1. Huchison, Neal, Ekwonu, Thibodeaux, Gardner
6. Cross, Walker, Johnson, Stingley, Willis
11. McDuffie, Williams, Jordan Davis, Wilson, Olave
16. Karlaftis, Lloyd, Penning, Pickett, London
21. Hill, Cine, Elam, Wyatt, Green
26. Dean, Linderbaum, Booth, Corral, Zion Johnson
31. Raimann, Ridder, Ebiketie, Travis Jones, Ojabo
36. Pitre, Mafe, Kenneth Walker, Logan Hall, Brisker
41. Watson, McBride, Breece Hall, Burks, Leal
46. Muma, Howell, Cam Thomas, Pickens, McCreary
51. Drake Jackson, Bonitto, Kinnard, Winfrey, Skye Moore
56. Tolbert, Mathis, Pierce, Sam Williams, Abe Lucas
61. Quay Walker, Jahan Dotson,
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 01:29 pm
The more I look at this draft class, the more I think 5 years from now we'll look back and say, I can't believe how many guys didn't turn out. (I mean, that's every year really, but I think this class will really be underwhelming down the road.)
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 06:52 pm
I think Linderbaum would be a fine pick; he is supposed to be better than Creed Humphrey (my crush last year) and you just move Myers to guard. I'd take him before Corral, that's for sure! I've got Jones, Watson, Pickens and Pitre before those three guys.
Wildcomet
April 26, 2022 at 12:27 pm
I'll be really interested to see how the abnormal variety of ages impacts this draft. Will superior talents drop on account of being 23-24 years old and priority being given to youth, or will some teams deem the older players as more 'game ready' or mature and move them up the board? Across the league it'll be a mix of both I'm sure, but it's a dynamic that's never existed to this degree before so I'll be watching to see how that shakes out. The Packers seem to prefer youth to me if everything else is equal, but if a top prospect falls because of their age it may be too good to pass up.
I'd personally like to see a WR in both Rd's 1 & 2 (and possibly a 3rd in Rd 5 or later), and a OL & Edge with the other Rd 1/2 picks- if the value is there of course. One pick I really like that works out in most of my simulations is CB Marcus Jones from Houston in Round 3. Smaller than the typical Packers CB preferences for sure, but could be a real good cover guy in the slot and is one of the best Punt & Kick Returners in the draft. He even got some snaps on offense similar to Tyler Ervin and the Packers do love players with versatility.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 01:47 pm
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BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 06:35 pm
Still only 9 guys signed up. As many guys think they know the draft I'm surprised on 9 guys have signed up... : )
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 06:45 pm
I'm having trouble joining. I don't have an "NFL account"
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 07:42 pm
I think I would swallow my tongue if Gutey came away with this draft without trading once.
Round 1 Pick 22: Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia
Round 1 Pick 28: Devin Lloyd, ILB/OLB, Utah
Round 2 Pick 22: Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College
Round 2 Pick 28: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Round 3 Pick 28: Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut
Round 4 Pick 28: Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Bryan Cook, FS/SS, Cincinnati
Round 5 Pick 28: Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State
Round 7 Pick 7: Danny Gray, WR, SMU
Round 7 Pick 28: Tyler Goodson, RB, Iowa
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Greg Dulcich, TE, UCLA
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 08:10 pm
Are you just making up things now? :-D
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 08:41 pm
No, lol... I was using First-Pick and they're rankings are crap... Lol
Rokkstar
April 27, 2022 at 03:48 am
Almost every player you've listed will be picked higher than what you've projected.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 07:49 pm
Your score is: 56911 (GRADE: A)
Round 1 Pick 22: Derek Stingley, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 28: Devin Lloyd, ILB/OLB, Utah (A+)
Round 2 Pick 22: Boye Mafe, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 2 Pick 28: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28: Perrion Winfrey, DT, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 28: Bryan Cook, FS/SS, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Cade Otton, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 7: Danny Gray, WR, SMU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Erik Ezukanma, WR, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Tyler Goodson, RB, Iowa (A+)
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 08:07 pm
Thought I'd see what happened if I cheated and picked using the Huddle Report Board.
Got 22 S Daxton Hill, 28 DL Travis Jones, 53 WR Christian Watson, 59 OT Abraham Lucas, 91 WR Khalil Shakir, 132 RB Kyren Williams, 140 TE Chig Ogonkwo, 171 WR Danny Gray,
No edge, but everything else looks great.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 08:53 pm
PFN
22. Devin Lloyd LB Utah
28. Travis Jones DT Connecticut
53. Breece Hall RB Iowa State
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
92. Jelani Woods TE Virginia
132. Zach Tom OT Wake Forest
140. Alex Wright EDGE UAB
171. Danny Gray WR SMU
228. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee
249. Tariq Carpenter S Georgia Tech
258. Thomas Booker DT Stanford
PackEyedOptimist
April 26, 2022 at 09:11 pm
Love it, except no way I'm taking a RB before the fourth round. Makes me wonder who else was still available...
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 11:33 pm
He was by far the BPA. No way I pass on him if he's the BPA.
BirdDogUni
April 26, 2022 at 11:47 pm
PFN
22. Devin Lloyd LB Utah 6' 2" 237lbs RAS: 9.58
28. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 6' 4" 208lbs RAS: 9.96
53. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia 6' 2" 304lbs RAS: 9.58
59. Myjai Sanders EDGE Cincinnati 6' 5" 258lbs RAS: 8.73
92. Abraham Lucas OT Washington State 6' 6" 315lbs RAS: 9.73
132. Charlie Kolar TE Iowa State 6' 6" 252lbs RAS: 9.11
140. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State 6' 2" 199lbs RAS: 10
171. Pierre Strong Jr. RB South Dakota State 5' 11" 202lbs RAS: 9.34
228. Eyioma Uwazurike DT Iowa State 6' 6" 316lbs RAS: 6.51
249. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee 5' 11" 204lbs RAS: 7.14
258. Tariq Carpenter S Georgia Tech 6' 2" 230lbs RAS: 8.91
I know I'm probably the only one who would love this draft. I missed out on Jelani Woods, who is a draft crush of mine. He went one pick ahead of Kolar in this simulation. Would love for Pierre Strong to be a Packer. Jones is a pipe dream in the 7th, but if he was there, I have no doubt Gutey would draft him.
gsd3
April 27, 2022 at 04:54 am
Last mock. Not super happy with it. Top 5 WR were gone by 22. Watson, Pierce,Moore, and Tolbert gone by 59. I could live with it though.
22. Hill S
28. Pickens WR
53. Winfrey DT
59. Lucas OT
92. Tom OL
132. Ruckert TE
140. Wright Edge
171. Strong Jr RB
228. Austin WR
249. Heiligh WR
258. Adomitis LS
PackEyedOptimist
April 27, 2022 at 06:07 am
I've had the same thing happen with a lot of my recent mocks. The WRs are never close to the BPA when it's our turn to pick.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 28, 2022 at 02:43 pm
Okay, here is my Green Bay Packers Big Board:
1. Hutchinson, Neal, Ekwonu, Walker, Gardner
6. Cross, Thibodeax, Walker, Johnson, Stingley
11. Jordan Davis, Olave, Karlaftis, Lloyd, Penning,
16. Williams, Wilson, Dean, Hill, Cine
21. Elam, Wyatt, Booth, Green, Ebiketie
26. London, Hall, Travis Jones, Wyatt, Zion Johnson
31. Watson, Pickens, Pitre, Brisker, McBride
36. McBride, Burks, Leal, Cam Thomas, D Jackson
46. Smith, Petit-Frere, Bonitto, Muma, Kinnard,
51. Winfrey, Pierce, Mathis, Sam Williams, A Lucas
56. Dotson, Quay Walker, Enagbare, Nick Cross, Mafe
61. Raimann, Woolen, Asomoah, Dulchich, Moore,
66. Alontae Taylor, Otten, Gordon, Tindall, Barno,
71. Paschal, Chenal