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Memo To Thompson: Do Not Trade Wells

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Memo To Thompson: Do Not Trade Wells

Rob Demovsky, echoing Tom Silverstein and  Bob McGinn, writes that the Packers are looking to trade Scott Wells. I think this would be a case of the Packers trying to get too cute at cut down time, not quite in the manner they cut their punter on the eve of the season last year, but similar.

Yes, I understand Thompson might be able to fetch a low-to-mid round pick from some team desperate for a quality center (Seattle would def fall into this category) but trading Wells would leave the team precariously thin should Jason Spitz suffer any kind of injury. And it is not only injury at center that having Wells guards against - if injury should strike at almost any other position, the pieces can be moved so that the team still has quality players on the line. For example, an injury to Clifton would see Colledge moving over to LT, with Spitz moving over to LG and Wells at center, etc. Not to mention, it is not out of the realm of possibility to see Wells at guard, a position he played at for a handful of games early in his Packers career.

No, the rewards are too few and the possibility for disaster too great. I'm as high as anyone on rookie T.J. Lang, but he was an unmitigated disaster against the Titans and has had a very lackluster showing in the other preseason games. The last thing we need is Lang inserted before he's ready and have to watch the likes of Pat Williams  or Tommie Harris eat him alive. (I still suspect Lang's best position is out at RT, but the coaches obviously disagree...)

So Ted, please, by all means, trade Tony Moll. But leave Wells on the roster,

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misterj's picture

Agree 100%, I don't know how anyone couldn't.

Rich Beckman's picture

Trading Wells would make last year's punter move look smart.

Ruppert's picture

It's interesting that the staff basically wants to get rid of Moll and Wells. I suppose I should commend them for attempting to remedy a long-standing problem area. But they better make damn sure the cure isn't worse than the disease, like those salad days of Will Whitticker, Adrian Klemm and Matt O'Dwyer. I find it hard to believe Wells won't be around for depth. Moll can go.

DaveK's picture

I agree. It's not like you would have to cut another great OL to make room for him. You also want to retain the ability to move Spitz to guard and Colledge to LT if needed. No way you want Meredith/Moll playing LT or Lang playing G at this point. I think TT knows that. Wells stays put unless someone really offers great value for him.

IronMan's picture

I agree. Especially since Ted has not had good luck picking up free agent offensive linemen.

Keep Wells.

IronMan's picture

It really is a shame that Matt O’Dwyer didn't work out, just for the Billy Madison (O'Doyal rules!) references.

cow42's picture

trade moll?
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what the h*ll do you think you're gonna get for that turnstile?
maybe a couple sets of shoulder pads and some shoelaces?
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just cut his arse. don't even waste the $ it would cost to use the phone looking for a deal.
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he.
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is.
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useless.

WoodyG's picture

"At least two linemen are being shopped by the Packers and presumably one of the others is center Scott Wells..."

.....although indications are they think Wells is too valuable to give up unless they were given a deal they couldn’t refuse."
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The idea of trading Wells is another 'local yokal' media fabrication. Once again, the locals are creating a story instead of just reporting.
One injury to any of 4 OL starters & Wells is back in the starting line-up.
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Wells is not going anywhere.

packeraaron's picture

Woody - actually I can tell you there have def been discussions about moving Wells. Not a made up story whatsoever.

retiredgrampa's picture

If TT is already trying to line up extra draft picks for next year, I find it belongs in the "asinine" category. The only way I trade Wells is if we get another OL in return....and who is going to do that?

nerdmann's picture

If it's true, it's likely because Wells is unhappy at not starting. Maybe get a guy with slightly less ability who can also play guard.

Ron La Canne's picture

I'll believe those three clowns when they actually ever predict anything accurately. I can't wait until this afternoon and we can see how their final 53 predictions hold up.

The only thing that would make sense with a Wells trade is that his injury is still an issue. In that case, he'd flunk the other teams' physical. If he is physically ok, he's the best lineman on the team after the starting five.

There is one possiblity, however. Another team may be having contract issues with a player the Packers would entertain. If that player fits into the GB plan, go for it. Unfortunately any trade would likely be draft choices and not very high draft choices at that.

C.D. Angeli's picture

TT isn't going to get anything for Moll. Be serious. Why do we always believe that some other team is going to desperate to pay a big price for our garbage? If Tony Moll were on the verge of being cut from another team, would you want TT to even send a seventh rounder to that team for him?

On the other hand, Wells does have value. He will have more value as we get close to the trade deadline and teams aren't fretting about their final cuts and protecting their prospects. When a center gets injured anywhere in the NFL in Week 3, Scott Wells will be the first name brought up by their (and our) media. Right now, you stash him on the roster and feature him a couple times in early games. If a playoff-caliber-team loses their center and has few options behind him, I would be willing to bet you would see an early-second-day pick offered in exchange for Wells and a late pick.

Is it wise? No. But is it good business practice to let a guy you really don't want fester on the bench when market value comes knocking?

Oppy's picture

...Perhaps Wells has requested the packers investigating a trade? It's a possibility. We're talking about a guy accustomed to starting, who has been relegated to backing up Spitz. Just saying.
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While I'd like to keep him for the obvious depth, it should be noted that Dietrich-Smith has faired well at center. I was shocked the other night during the live blog when I mentioned Dietrich-Smith and Greg Bedard commented that he didn't think the drop off from Scott Wells to Dietrich-Smith was all that great.
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If a team offers up substantial compensation for Wells, the Packers SHOULD investigate those avenues. Due Diligence, and all that.
Although rookies, both Dietrich-Smith and TJ Lang have shown to be useful linemen(Lang at all three interior, D-S at center) and while having a veteran starting center as a backup is a valuable commodity, he is a backup with trade value. If the price is really right, shop him. If it's not really right, retain him. I'm not sweating this one.

WoodyG's picture

" Woody – actually I can tell you there have def been discussions about moving Wells. Not a made up story whatsoever. "

There are varying degrees of discussion when one talks about moving a player..... Only a handful of players on any given NFL roster are probably never discussed as maybe ' a player to move under the right circumstances. ' In example, I doubt AR & C. Woodson ever come up in this type of conversation by Packer brass behind closed doors. During the offseason, moving AK, AJ or Collins or just about anyone else could easily have surfaced in confidential talk. Very few of the discussions lead to anything nor does the public ever hear of these conversations.
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This media conjecture about Wells is just another sensational opinion without merit...... I mean, a scout told them ????...... Trading Wells would be a major snafu by TT & MM.

PackersRS's picture

"maybe a couple sets of shoulder pads and some shoelaces?"
DEAL.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Gotta keep wells. The risk of letting him go and Spitz getting hurt far outweigh the reward of a 5th or 6th round pick. That could really F' up the whole offense, If Spitzy were to go down Wells could go in and the offense theoretically shouldn't skip a beat, BUT the alternative... worrisome to say the least.

GBP 4 LIFE

Oh yeah, and let's trim some fat... MOLL

AdamInEngland's picture

Looks like TT took some of these thoughts into consideration - http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/09/05/1/

Asshalo's picture

TT managed to trade Moll. Bravo, TT, Bravo

PackersRS's picture
AdamInEngland's picture

So far it appears Brian Brohm, Jamon Meridith, Tyrell Sutton, Andrew Hartline, Dean Muhtadi, Dane Randolph, Ronald Talley, Trevor Ford, Cyril Obiozor and Kregg Lumpkin have been cut with Lee and Harrell being placed on IR.

FITZCORE1252's picture

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA... something for Moll. Kudos Ted, Kudos! Looks like all 3 FB might be safe, great for ST, I like it!

GBP 4 LIFE

Ruppert's picture

Now let's hope this guy from Baltimore isn't equally as useless as Moll. Let's hope they don't actually go into the season with 3 FBs. Now that Moll is gone, I'm left to despise only Mike Montgomery.

Oppy's picture

RELEASED:
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Released Saturday were wide receiver Jake Allen, quarterback Brian Brohm, cornerback Trevor Ford, guard/tackle Andrew Hartline, wide receiver Kole Heckendorf, linebacker Danny Lansanah, running back Kregg Lumpkin, defensive end Alfred Malone, wide receiver Ruvell Martin, tackle Jamon Meredith, nose tackle Dean Muhtadi, linebacker Cyril Obiozor, cornerback Joe Porter, tackle Dane Randolph, safety Anthony Smith, running back Tyrell Sutton, defensive end Ronald Talley and nose tackle Anthony Toribio.
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IR:
Harrell, P. Lee, Evan Moore, Charlie Peprah
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Someone @ Green Bay Press Gazette is way off on their supposedly confirmed reporting today.. LOTS of surprises here. Anthony Smith, Ruvell Martin?? Really? Geesh. crazy stuff.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/09/05/2/

FITZCORE1252's picture

HOLY SHIT! Smith and Martin GONE??? Didn't see that coming. I wonder if they're not working a trade for another "starting caliber" safety? With as average as Bigby has looked, I sure hope so. I know we picked up that DB from Baltimore, but he sounds more like a ST/project guy. Martin being cut is fine by me, I bet Rodgers is pissed though, they were pretty good friends I hear. I think Swain has a higher ceiling though.

NEVER A DULL MOMENT

GBP 4 LIFE

Oppy's picture

Okay, the comment about someone at the GBPG being way off was alittle overkill. Apologies, they were on target with most of this stuff. I think I'm just completely shocked. Life goes one.

Oppy's picture

If a team attempts to claim a player on waivers, does the original team have the option to sign them to the active roster before they are snatched up? Or not? Is there any possible game playing going on here?

FITZCORE1252's picture

Still wish we'd of made a play for Jim Leonhard, kids a stud!

GBP 4 LIFE

bucky's picture

While I'm disappointed in Sutton being waived, and more than a little surprised (I still think he's light years better than the hapless Wynn), I think the real shocker is the release of Smith. Brohm too, since that means either a) they've already found someone to replace him, or b) Matt Flynn's injury is completely healed. I can't imagine they'd release Brohm with Flynn's status uncertain just hoping to sign someone as a backup QB.

Sometimes I wonder if they simply didn't put the names of all the guys on the bubble onto playing cards, shuffled them and picked the first names off the deck.

FITZCORE1252's picture

I trust Teds decision making. While several of these moves are unexpected, I'm sure they're in the best interest of the team and give us the best chance at winning. He knows truths that we can only speculate about. But man, I sure hope there's a master plan at the safety position, that's scaring me.

GBP 4 LIFE

PackersRS's picture

We must all be too dumb, or too blind, because aparently Bush had an amazing preseason, and Smith sucked with all those ints... Also, prepare, packer fans! MM will reveal his 2 FB set! And also, that 4.8 YPC was just too low to keep Sutton. 2.9 was a much better number... But hey, a running back is paid to block, and not to run the ball, right?

Oppy's picture

Sutton was very interesting and I would have liked to keep him, however, he WAS a project, and I think many of the roster moves made today were different from past years in that the emphasis seems to have been on keeping the best players, not keeping the best projects (Meredith, Brohm, Obiozor, etc released).. Wynn has proven in the past he can play against starters in the NFL, and to be honest, the fact that the Packers released Brohm and appear to possibly be ready to ride with only Flynn as a back-up may have played heavily into the decision to retain Wynn over Sutton. Protect Rodgers at all costs.

FITZCORE1252's picture

PackersRS,

Sutton showed ZERO return ability, very little burst/speed for a kid that size and playing against 3rd and 4th string talent can lead to deceptive numbers such as yards per carry. The more I think about it, the more I like having 2 ST studs like Hall and Kuhn on the team. That is an area that we MUST improve in, and carrying more LB's and FB's will only help, special teams ARE 1/3 of the game yet often take a backseat... I like it, especially in a division with Hester and Harvin.

GBP 4 LIFE

bucky's picture

Sutton showed zero return ability as compared to Wynn, who showed significantly less. As well as significantly less out of the backfield.

Yep, that made sense.

Holly's picture

I find it highly entertaining that there has been nary a peep of outrage about the trading of Tony Moll to BAL. (Although, maybe there will be a tinge of regret now that Daryn Colledge has no one to sing with in the training room...)

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