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Lions 31 Packers 0: Game Balls & Lame Calls

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Lions 31 Packers 0: Game Balls & Lame Calls

The Green Bay Packers ended the 2018 season in God awful fashion with a thumping 31-0 loss to the hapless Detroit Lions at Lambeau Field.

Aaron Rodgers put up one last performance for the home crowd and it was. . . not great.  And then his day ended early in the second quarter when he was evaluated for a concussion. 

The image above says it all: "Here, take this and go run this offense for me, OK?"

On to the final edition of "Game Balls" in 2018.

Game Balls

DeShone Kizer

Coming in to relieve Aaron Rodgers is never an easy task, even in a meaningless game.  Kizer manned up and tried to get the offense going, which is hardly a given this season.

His day wasn't great, but he showed he can run.  The interception was really bad.

I have to show some love to the back up quarterback in Green Bay.  It's been a lot of "clipboard holding" for the past 26 years.

Kizer's future with the team isn't known but at the very least, the team got some tape on him in this game.

Lame Calls

Special Teams

When Matt Prater throws a touchdown pass, this entire unit gets a lame call.  One more horrible look and example of why this area has cost this team time and time again this season.

On the play, the Lions flank a receiver out wide and not a single Packers player moved out to cover.  That's coaching, my friends and don't bring any cockamamie excuse as to why it's not.

If Ron Zook is back in Green Bay after this season, he's got more magic in him than Houdini, Copperfield and Favre combined.

Kentrell Brice

Brice should never have been counted on to play a lot of meaningful snaps but he still lands here for a season of futility.  

Brice missed tackles on so many occasions and was a total zero in coverage.  If he's back next season for anything but special teams, I have to start questioning just how good the Packers want to be defensively.

The Packers should get an honorary lame call for how they handled the safety position this season.

Josh Jackson

Jackson covers, Jackson gets beat.  The fourth quarter touchdown put him on this list.  He's got a lot to learn and improve on from this season.

Whether he stays at cornerback or moves to safety, Jackson needs to regain his nose for the football.  Brutal day against the Lions.

2018

This year was just not the Packers' year.  From the tie against the Vikings to the debacle in Detroit to cutting two players and a 13-year head coach due to performance issues, this season has been abysmal.

We can only hope 2019 is better but after watching this season unfold with Rodgers under center each week, nothing seems a given, does it?

The offseason starts now and there's a lot of work to be done at 1265 Lombardi Avenue.

 

There's not a lot else that can be said about the Packers right now.  By the time you're reading this, there may already be members of the staff that have been let go or moved on.  

Changes are coming and that's a very good thing.

Thanks for reading Game Balls for another season and we'll have more great content this offseason for you all!

Happy new year and Go Pack! 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Pulse of the Pack podcast.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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pacman's picture

You must have started drinking early to give Kizer a game ball.

Regarding drinking early - I don't blame you one bit! This season needs to be washed down, away and forgotten.

Gute on hot seat now to take control. Murphy - just stay out of his way and go build another playground somewhere.

Nick Perry's picture

The problem is Murphy isn't getting out of the way.

Coldworld's picture

Murphy needs to be got out of the way. He presided over the rot and did nothing until it was far too late.

Packerpasty's picture

exactly...Kizer is, if anything, worse than Gummer was, and thats bad...Cobb could do as good..with Rodgers health of late the Pack better start looking for a much better option at backup..

Coldworld's picture

If Kizer had practiced to start, i’d be more critical. Overall he didn’t do worse than Rodgers, so need to consider that. Daft approach to the game by the team selection. Would have liked to blood Donnerson too.

I thought Jackson actually showed positively. He is a rookie, and is going to get fooled, it is the percentage of good coverage that one has to look for.

I thought again that the Browns (CB and DT) showed something to say keep me around on a day where few did.

egbertsouse's picture

You forgot the part where Prater doesn’t get back in the kicking position but stands over the holder and watches the center. Even my wife was screaming “fake!”

ILPackerBacker's picture

I am not sure you should associate your wife and screaming and 'fake' in the same post.

(this is humor)

Packers0808's picture

It seemed like the Packers showed up to play the Ryders Cup yesterday and forgot their golf clubs on the plane!

nostradanus's picture

Game Balls - To the fans who showed up and spent hard earned money to watch a bunch of over paid losers not show up to play a game which they are getting paid thousands and even millions of dollars to play.

Lame calls - The top offenders .....

Ron Zook - Not so Special teams

Offensive Line - very offensive

Defense - is there anyone with a pulse?
How many missed tackles?

JK Scott - wasted fifth round pick

Jimmy Graham - Gute you have some explaining to do, dude is washed up!

DeShone Kiser - he is Brett Hundly II , actually he is not that good. Traded a former first round pick for this guy?

Murphy-Gutekunst
- maybe Thompson-McCarthy weren’t so bad after all. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for!

This team stinks!

That is all.....

Cubbygold's picture

On the Prater TD you can see the GB sideline in the background. Not all of it of course, but you do get a shot of it. Most of the players and staff aren't watching. Obviously it's on the guys on the field to pay attention and make plays, but where was the coaching staff on that play? Why didn't they call a timeout when it was obvious that they were about to get tricked.

Zook being let go should be the easiest decision of the offseason

(also, way too early to make any determination about gute)

Nick Perry's picture

I noticed the same thing. The ENTIRE GB bench was watching it like it was a routine attempt. Never mind the guy in the WHITE shirt sticking out like a sore thumb.

Good Lord....

PeteK's picture

Gute also worries me. I know it takes a few seasons to determine the success of a draft , but right now it doesn't look good.

Coldworld's picture

I disagree completely. Daft to expect rookie skill position players to become (non emergency) starters. Overall, the class contributed more than should have been expected.

Next year will tell whether they will take the next step. At least the playing time some recurved should help their development curve.

Since91's picture

Coldworld I do not know man....If we don’t start spending money and this is what we can expect from the draft we are dead....
Alexander-solid missed games though!
Jackson-ummm I’ll be nice ugh
Moore-nothing
Burks-nothing
Scott-good and bad
Madison-no show
MVS/ESB- there were moments but
All 7th rd picks-nothing
I’m sorry and you have to wait three years to determine if a draft pick is a bust blah blah blah
But if you are an organization that pins everything on the draft this is not good period
I’m worried about Gute big time
Spend some money on real football players or we may end up watching our draft picks stand on the sidelines like cheerleaders

Doug Niemczynski's picture

I think J K Scott is ok

LeotisHarris's picture

Thanks, Doug.

HoLeCrap's picture

right on pal.

Guam's picture

This game should take care of the notion Philbin will be our next HC. The Packers were lifeless which has been the case all too often the last couple of years. Scheme and talent are critical pieces to a football team, but so is emotion. We need a HC that brings scheme and an ability to get players fired up. I am tired of watching lifeless football.

Gort's picture

Nailed it.

Bure9620's picture

Guam, that performance as far as I am concerned WAS Philbins interview. Not too much else to take away from that performance.

Coldworld's picture

That was his swan song.

LeotisHarris's picture

His Waterloo?

dobber's picture

I always thought it was a long, hard road for Philbin to earn the HC position. Even if he went 4-0 over his games, he would also have to have put the Packers at the top of most aggregate stats, saved the OL, got #12 playing like #12 again, and deposited an extra foot of snow on Murphy's sledding hill to really have a shot. It's hard to sell change when you promote from within, and at this point, the organization needs to sell change.

Cubbygold's picture

This game was a perfect summation of the failures of this team and organization.

Off-season - "Pay the man!!!" Guess what, the top 6 highest paid QBs missed the playoffs this year. Paying someone that much has too much of a negative effect on the talent level on the rest of the roster

Packers get eliminated from playoffs - "Play the man!!!" And Rodgers gets a concussion, which anyone who has a slight understanding of CTE knows that this could be a life changing event for 12.

I'm extremely happy that the final score was a goose egg, in a game played in Lambeau. Absolutely no reason why Philbin's name should have been thrown around as a possible head coaching candidate, dude would be a complete pushover and continuity of mediocre offensive strategy. Team needs a fresh approach and a new voice.

HankScorpio's picture

"Packers get eliminated from playoffs - "Play the man!!!" And Rodgers gets a concussion, which anyone who has a slight understanding of CTE knows that this could be a life changing event for 12."

It might not be, too. Rodgers recovered from his last concussion in 2011 ok. Until there is a medical opinion from someone that has examined Rodgers that raises concerns, I'm going to hold off on believing the worst case scenario. NFL players get concussions. They are not all life changing injuries, even if some are.

But I do look forward to an entire off season of over the top predictions from armchair doctors that know nothing about how Rodgers is responding.

Cubbygold's picture

The outcome doesn't change the decision making process. If 12 doesn't have any negative outcome from this, it was still a bad decision to play him in a meaningless game.

scullyitsme's picture

Ya, we know hank. Play everyone at all costs no matter what, no matter how stupid it is. Rah rah, the players, owners and everyone involved know it’s a business, half the teams rosters sat out and didn’t play this week, why? Because they’re wussies? No, because it’s the smart play with lots of people worth millions of dollars. We’d probably have the 5th pick in the draft right now if we play Kizer and Boylle for the jets. We now know we can dump Kizer after last game. What I consider momentum in the off season, drafting a stud that can sack the quarterback. You -warriors- quoting Lombardi will take us back to the 70’s, all about pride. I’m about winning.

Cubbygold's picture

And 12 would be three weeks into offseason strength and conditioning. Heard he might need a knee surgery... could have already had that and been getting rehab work in. The offseason is short, those three weeks aren't meaningless.

dobber's picture

He does not need knee surgery. At least, not for the injury he sustained during the Bears game.

fthisJack's picture

Packers would have had #8 instead of #12...….HUUUUUGE difference. idiots!

HankScorpio's picture

Everyone understands the difference between 8 and 12, including every GM, HC and owner of each of the 32 professional football teams.

Which begs the question why most teams didn't play the end of the season with that in mind. Perhaps they are just idiots. Perhaps not.

HankScorpio's picture

"Play everyone at all costs no matter what, no matter how stupid it is."

That is what most teams that were out of contention did over the course of the final two weeks. All kinds of teams fought hard to move down in the draft board with valuable long-term assets on the field, exposed to the risks associated with football.

Maybe the guys running all those teams don't see things as clearly as you. Or maybe they see things more clearly. Occam's Razor suggests it is the later. But it is possible you are just smarter than them.

Cubbygold's picture

They're playing because both players and coaches are given short term incentives that encourage them to play hard. Coaches are trying to save their jobs. Players might have contract incentives. What's good for individual players and coaches is not necessarily good for the organization as a whole.

HankScorpio's picture

It's a shame those teams don't have a GM as smart as you to step in and protect their long-term interests.

PeteK's picture

Cubby, I don't think Ryan and Manning had any monetary incentives , except to finish the season on a high note.

PeteK's picture

Hank, good factual rebuttal made without any condescending words. Manning and Ryan played .

scullyitsme's picture

I get It Hank. We disagree, the difference is you have to come on every article and take shots at people who disagree with your perspective, I’m just an occasional rebuttal for those of us that don’t agree with winning at all cost during meaningless games. There are times to do both, I believe you don’t see that because of your one sided posts, that’s all. I’m a use all the tools in the tool box type of guy.

scullyitsme's picture

Well to your point, now we know Kizer isn’t ready, and we sent Rodgers to the hospital because he was playing through a groin, a knee, and a offensive line that sucks. If it’s just a concussion he’ll be fine but that’s not the point, I’m not going to be a doctor, but the point your missing is that it could of been much worse for no apparent reason in my opinion, if you believe differently, fine. That works.

Old School's picture

Yeah. It would be nearly impossible to get a QB by next season that we could win 6 games with.

Ferrari Driver's picture

"...I'm going to hold off on believing the worst case scenario. NFL players get concussions. They are not all life changing injuries, even if some are."

I've watched a couple of the UFC octagon matches and I think there has to be a concussion involved in most every match. Football: max head protection.
UFC: no head protection

PeteK's picture

Never happy with a goose egg, especially to a divisional rival at end the season.

4thand10's picture

Its all about the fans that pay money as season ticket holders and buy #12 Jerseys. They don’t spend all that money to see Kizer.

Lare's picture

I think the "concussion" and its timing were convenient for the Packers & Rodgers. First he's limping after the hit and then a few series later we're told it's a concussion.

Personally, I think one way or another the Packers decided Rodgers was going to have an injury that removed him from this game. It helps him save face by not letting the team down and allows them to sit others like Bakhtiari. And evaluation for a concussion also means Rodgers doesn't have to face the media after the game.

Regardless, it's over, time to move on.

PeteK's picture

That thought did enter my mind, especially after Bak never came back. Your right the bad dream is over. I've had enough BS drama to fill a decade of seasons.

stockholder's picture

Game Balls- Crosby for sitting the bench. Lame calls- Ronyan for dropping a 4th down pass that was perfectly thrown. WRs, MVS can't leave his feet. Defense Line.

Cubbygold's picture

When he did I was thinking 'that's a costly drop'. We know GB is going to be looking at all options at TE next year, and that's just not the way to head into the offseason. Tough one, hopefully he proves it was a fluke over time.

Flow49's picture

Game Ball: Lions - for putting this season down quickly. Was able to go home from BWW’s early and get some house work done

Bure9620's picture

Game Balls- Antonio Morrisson, the only Packer on the field I saw playing with passion and a sense of urgency, he played the run well, I counted 3 tackles for a loss. He seems to be the only player on the team that can tackle and was willing to do so. He was playing his ass off for his job. I love that.
-The fans doing the Wave and all of them sticking around for that performance.
-The announcers saying "Jim Bob Cooter" over and over

Lame Calls- All other players, coaches, staff and the Front office of 1265 Lombardi

Cubbygold's picture

the wave sucks

Coldworld's picture

I forgot to credit Morrison earlier: very good point.

Gort's picture

Jason, thanks for starting the fire after every game so we can throw some gasoline on it.

Tundraboy's picture

Not a good year at all. State of this team now, in the performance on the field, and the level of play on the field for the whole season, painfully highlights what Thompson ,McCarthy and ultimately Murphy did to this team. Rode the coat-tails of a rising quarterback smugly hoping that they would once again win the lottery like they did with Rodgers. The false Kings of draft n develop. I'm more convinced than ever that Murphy's got to go as well.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Jackson needs to move to safety immediately. The Packers just don't and shouldn't play the type of zone coverages Jackson is good at often enough. Jackson excells with the ball in front of him, he stinks at matching a reciever in man. Let's not make another Hyde mistake with him.

Bure9620's picture

Agreed or a Damarious Randall mistake.....

PeteK's picture

Bure, in retrospect, but lets be fair, most were glad to get rid of his poor attitude. Some players respond to being shown the door and realizing that it might be the end of their playing career.

Bure9620's picture

Yes I agree PeteK, I was more referencing the Packers playing him out of position at corner rather than Safety.

PeteK's picture

Excellent research Bure, did not know he was switched to safety. Another damning indictment of Capers.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Totally agree. Jackson is a solid player.

jhalwas611.com's picture

Jackson made his reputation against Big 10 QB's. Not a ringing endorsement. Maybe the move to safety would help but I doubt it. This team lacks speed at all positions.

Coldworld's picture

Simply not true. Not even true of Jackson really. Tons of speed around but not enough savvy to make it pay dividends.

dobber's picture

If the safety market is anywhere near as depressed as it was last off-season, and given that CB talent is hard to find, I would be reluctant to move Jackson to S, yet. Still a rookie, after all.

Cubbygold's picture

lots of those guys signed one year deals too... hopefully this time around we grab one

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Gute is definitely on the HOT SEAT

M.Wilkerson - Failure
J.Graham -Failure
M.Lewis - Failure
D. Kizer - Failure
K.Mack - Not Signed
A.Robinson - Not Signed
M.Burnett - Not Resigned
Trey Burton - Not Signed
J. Landry - Not Signed

Almost All offseason moves FAILURES!!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Bryon Bell - Failure

The list goes on!!!

Coldworld's picture

Laughable comment. Inherited roster = failure.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Wut? These are holdovers. Gute went and got (or passed) on most of these players. Certainly his FA acquisitions don't look good based on a bang versus buck basis. Now I do think Morrison, Breeland, Campbell, Lancaster, Tony Brown, and Kumerow were good acquisitions, with Tramon being a decent signing, so far.

Bure9620's picture

Who TF is Robinson? Allen Robinson plays for the Bears. Do you mean Antonio Morrison? He's the only player that played well yesterday. He played the run well all year. Wilkerson only played 2 1/4 games and played the run well, our run defense suffered after his gruesome injury. Hard to call that a failure.

The others were failed signings.

PeteK's picture

Hey Boorish, one little mistake on Robinson while agreeing with most of comment.

Bure9620's picture

I stand corrected....

Bedrock's picture

Mack wasn’t going to GB no matter what. Oakland said no to any overture from Gutekunst.
Wilkerson got injured. That cannot be pinned on Gute or an off-season failure.
Jimmy went to a MM offense that doesn’t know how to use the TE despite his (MM) claim of needing or wanting a TE that can split the middle.
It was a World Series of unfortunate events.
By season’s end, an entire DL on IR, two “starting” linebackers (Perry/Ryan), and how many in the secondary? Crazy.

Since91's picture

You r wrong bedrock....Gute had the cap space and the draft capital to get the Mack deal done...he choked let’s just hope it’s not the start of a trend....but no doubt he screwed us

Coldworld's picture

Mathematically yes, but not realistically given wider needs for the future.

Coldworld's picture

Mathematically yes, but not realistically given wider needs for the future.

PeteK's picture

I can't agree on that Since 61, at the beginning of the season Bears were predicted to bring back higher draft picks.

Gort's picture

I think you flagged the wrong "since". Only one of them makes sense in their comments.

Packers0808's picture

What is your take on the big contract on Rodgers, seems to fit your category somewhat at this juncture!

Since '61's picture

Game Balls: 0 same as the Packers score yesterday.

Lame Call: the entire 2018 season starting with Murphy all the way down to a very poor product on the field for most of the season ending with an embarrassing non-performance at home against a division rival.

Many of us believe that Gute had a good first year as a GM but it hasn't translated to success on the field, at least not yet. The problem is that right now we don't know how much is Gute and how much is Murphy.
"The times they are a changing." Thanks, Since '61

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Allen Robinson was a free agent and the Packers FAILED to sign him, do he went to the Bears.

Cubbygold's picture

Allen Robinson - #34 WR in yards, tied for #50 in receiving TDs. #12 in salary cap hit... yeah really wish he was in GB

Bure9620's picture

Just saw that, they did. It makes me wonder why Robinson would rather play with Trubisky than Rodgers??? Has to be something to it, the organization?

Since '61's picture

Sorry Doug but I didn't mention anything about Allen Robinson in my post, so I am not sure what you are responding to and many of your posts seem to come out of left field.

Based on what I know about Robinson I would rather take my chances with either MVS or ESB than waste the cap space on Robinson. Thanks, Since '61

Gort's picture

Since 61 - Nailed it!

Since '61's picture

Thanks Gort!

fthisJack's picture

there should have been a total housecleaning of the coaching staff last year. now....instead of having a year of experience with a new coaching staff, they may be looking at learning new schemes on O and D.

Since '61's picture

I agree, but that might not be a bad thing either. Thanks, Since '61

edp1959's picture

There should have been a total house cleaning 4 years ago. Fixing this mess would have been complete by now.

dobber's picture

...or they could have spun so far down into the shithole that they can't see the top.

I think, for the first time in awhile, we're seeing people here recognize that when you make changes, there's no guarantee that things will immediately get better. That was the opinion 4 years ago and mostly since: anyone could have made more of the situation than MM/TT did. Change is always leading you down an unknown path, and we can hope for the best, but it's a white-knuckle ride most of the time.

PeteK's picture

Monday morning QBs ? He won 3 playoff games and lost his QB last year. This year the firing was justified as losing to Cards proved that he lost the team.

Pack12's picture

You have to hit rock bottom before you can be good again. The question is, was this rock bottom?

Doug Niemczynski's picture

No. Not until the Packers organization and the fans on this site stop beefing up the Packers as a good team.

Just like when February - September come along the exact same people will be stating in 2019 we are going to the SuperBowl.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

And, I will consistently be given a thumbs down by all the fans on this forum.

Bedrock's picture

By FANS, yes.
Fans look forward to the next game with optimism.
Find some...it’s a healthier way to live. Football is a game, after all.

Gort's picture

Doug, couldn't resist giving you a dislike for that comment!

Packers0808's picture

Same here! They don;t like anything negative, oh well rose colored glasses are fine!

dobber's picture

No...we downvote Doug because he regularly has ongoing, rambling conversations--and sometimes arguments--with himself.

Bure9620's picture

So you take issue with Schizophrenics??

dobber's picture

Yes, I do...and so do I.

Since stockholder claims we am one, it's a dicey area for us.

...and apologies to those who live with mental illness.

CheesyTex's picture

Five stars to dobber. Hilarious!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

No I don't
Yes i do
No
yes
well maybe
Deny
Deny
Deny

dobber's picture

You're a good sport, Doug!

Gort's picture

And there are no dislikes to Doug's last comment!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Allen Robinson had 754 Yards 13.7 YAC and 4TDs.
that would have been 2nd best on the Packers next to D.Adams had 12.7 YAC.

fthisJack's picture

the Packer receivers weren't the problem this year.

Since91's picture

Sorry! But yes they were....outside of Adams we have none

Coldworld's picture

... Yet ready to start or healthy. He is very much on point in saying that the problems were far deeper than just the WR corps though.

PeteK's picture

Receivers certainly didn't help as witnessed by all the dropped passes.

Bedrock's picture

Which receivers? The injured ones? Or the rookies?

Old School's picture

And yet we entered the final week of the season with the #8 passing offense.

All because of the greatness of Rodgers, no doubt.

Old School's picture

And yet we entered the final week of the season with the #8 passing offense.

All because of the greatness of Rodgers, no doubt.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Hooray

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

We did well with the style points. You too can rack up big yardage numbers if you pass 70% of the time. it made some folks think Stafford was an exceptional passer.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

This year in the 2019 draft maybe we can go all offense the first 4 rounds,.

HankScorpio's picture

I'd get that edge rusher at 12. I think an elite one will be available and that is where elite edge rushers come from.

After that, I'm on board with going heavy on offense with their remaining 4 picks in the first 80.

PeteK's picture

I hope so, we could certainly use a pass rusher, but after that a top safety would be tempting.

Gort's picture

So, because I am a loser with nothing better to do on New Year's eve, I am watching the breaking news on the NFL network. Would someone please explain why there have been no new firings at 1265?

Packers0808's picture

Because Rodgers may still be in the hospital and hasn't okayed any firings with Murphy or Gute yet!

dobber's picture

I would argue that firing assistants doesn't make any sense until they hire an HC. They'll want to give that HC the opportunity to retain anyone they covet rather than turning them loose first. I don't think the Packers will deny many of the assistants the opportunity to interview somewhere else, though. My expectation is that anyone they hire as HC will dismiss virtually all of the old staff, but you never know.

Gort's picture

I get it, but all of us want our pound of flesh, starting with Zook!

dobber's picture

Ron Zook will be a punching bag around here for generations to come.

flackcatcher's picture

At least Zook hasn't run over anybody's dog.....yet.

HankScorpio's picture

Patience. We have 3 months for getting pounds of flesh, first with coaches and then players.

Gort's picture

Okay, but I ain't getting any younger.

dobber's picture

Yes, this public vivisection will be a marathon, not a sprint.

Coldworld's picture

Such decisions are normally made by the incoming HC. Nothing surprising.

CheesyTex's picture

It is possible that the new H.C. will come from the college ranks. While change is the order of the day, not just NFL experience but also continuity become more valuable.

PeteK's picture

This is getting medieval, Im glad I'm in the safety of my home and not in the parking lot after a game. I just formed a pict. of fans with pitchforks and torches chasing Zook around.

Bure9620's picture

I agree with Aaron Nagler. The Lame call today was the organization trotting out Philbin to the media this morning. That looks quite cowardly by Murphy. GuteMurph should face the music after yesterday's performance, and accept a bit if responsibility at least. Make themselves available to the media. Heck, the CEO of ANY public company would do as much.

Coldworld's picture

Yes indeed. Murphy’s ability to dodge responsibility for the decline is baffling.

Gute is a different question all together. Got to give him time to fix the depth of inadequacy that this season has so clearly evidenced had developed. Clear out and upgrade. Rebuilding has begun but is far from finished it is clear.

PeteK's picture

They're too busy interviewing McDaniels.

ILPackerBacker's picture

The only guy on the packers to earn a game ball should have been 44, he came to play and he came with attitude.

The carpet bagger is lame and a coward and this is not news to any packer fan who keeps up to date.

The amazing thing is that we have a 'culture' of winning where coaches are never held accountable. Zook should never have been hired, once hired at least 13 time per season he earned firing.

NO MORE FRIENDS.
NONE.
ZERO.

No more friends at WR, none in Gms office, none on the coaching staff.

BearsFan's picture

Now, is it just me, or was giving a aging quarterback.. (35) 90 million for three more years ? His age was on display this season, and lightning doesn't strike three times. Welcome to the basement Green Bay

Since91's picture

Who’s better than him bears fan? Who you want in free agency? Who you drafting from college have you watched some of these kids try to play qb...90 million is cheap for a guy with his accomplishments....the cap keeps going up 90 million like all Viking fans are complaining about today will be nothing in a couple of years....just like his last contract became terribly unfair

dobber's picture

Don't feed the troll.

But I give you thumbs up for the Vikings comment! Big money for a QB that couldn't make them forget Case Keenum.

BearsFan's picture

Not trolling, QBs are not wine, they do not get better with age.The exception is Tom Brady, (who's done) and look what he put him self thru to stay there in his 40's some hippie vegan/pillates/yoga routine? Rodgers gonna adopt that?

White _tornado's picture

This is where Dash is going to come in and tell us knce again that Boyle is the next great Packers QB.

HankScorpio's picture

Don't worry, the Packers won't be in the basement that long. We'll leave it just like you have known if for so long. Things will be nice and comfortable when the Bears are back there next year.

BearsFan's picture

Keep dreaming, what, you gonna give Majewski a call? Maybe you can get Lindy back to head coach? Contrary to your pride, the NFL is cyclic, teams rise and fall, (except Detroit) the Vikings are rising, the Bears are rising, your witnessing the fall

Lare's picture

If your Bears were so good, you wouldn't be spending your time on a Packers site seeing what it takes to be a real fan.

JimR_in_SoCal's picture

Bears will be one-and-done in the playoffs as "the Bears still suck."

HankScorpio's picture

The NFL sure is all about teams rising and falling. In very compressed time frames. Just ask the Vikes, who are most definitely not rising. They are a non-playoff team, barely above .500. One year after winning the division behind the best defense in football.

Enjoy your time at the top. You never know when it is going to end.

John Kirk's picture

I actually agree with this guy. I do feel for him though as I think his Bears made a major tactical error by beating Minnesota. Now, they get Philly and if Foles is healthy, they're going one and done.

The Packers need a miracle hire at HC. I doubt very much Magic Mark is going to find the right guy. It'll be some guy that is nice and comfortable and fits right into the buddy club. It won't be about what's best for the football product on the field, but for them behind the scenes.

Give me a guy who is hard to work with that is a winner than a guy easy to work with who can't get it done. Guess which way THIS org is going to choose? They'll pick the nice comfort zone guy and sell the crap out of him that he was the "right fit" and also the BEST candidate. Half of that will be true.

Bure9620's picture

Likely true, the right fit and a communicator.

Since91's picture

Ok Ok Ok I get that Arod did not put this not very good team on his back and win the last five games in a row like he has done in the past by throwing 20 TDS and 0 Ints and get us into the playoffs.....but take the anger and emotion out of this....Rodgers is good real good....we are lucky to have him...in fact he is the only reason why we have a chance in the next three years....did he have a tough year? I say yes....I saw the missed passes the holding onto the ball too long the injury....but when it is all over who else would you want driving the ship? He has subpar talent all around him and there is no arguing that...The powers that be have ignored the offense for a few years now because of our terrible defense and that’s ok because Rodgers will keep the engine running even though the teams in our division have been gearing up to stop him for years look at minny and chic decisions with money and draft capital...I hope our front office realizes that the days of him doing this on his own are getting slimmer so let’s surround him with a real offensive line a real receiving core....Rodgers has screwed himself because of his ungodly play and now a lot of people are killing him for it... that’s not fair....this team has zero chance without him!

4thand10's picture

This 1000%. Cobb should have been gone, No replacement was drafted or acquired for Nelson. A legit WR should have been Drafted or a free agent. Jeffrey was out there, Robinson was out there and others. Good WRs were to be had in rounds 2-3 were there. Not getting a WR in the 2nd was a mistake. The only surprise was I was NOT expecting the TE position to be less than stellar. You protect the franchise....how the Oline was handled was pretty bad. They knew Chicago D was good even before Mack....I would have kept a FB . They have a shit ton of stuff to look at this offseason and I hope it gets fixed.

Since91's picture

Agreed an oline man should of been a high priority
But nope Taylor McCray Patrick Bulaga Bell they will hold up
Dead wrong
It all starts up front boys

Old School's picture

12th in total offense, 8th in passing offense, 2nd in yards per rush. Obviously, people were getting blocked.

stockholder's picture

Couldn't keep Fb with7 wrs. This will change. Cut Cobb/Davis. The replacement is Paris Cambell. Adams #1. StBrown #2. MVS #3. Kumerow #4 Paris Campbell would be #5. Moore beats out Allison for #6. I still see them drafting Cobbs replacement. Allison & Davis are a long shot if they get CampBell.

PeteK's picture

Didn't see anything from Moore, but Allison was productive when playing. Campbell is great ,but don't want to use a high draft pick on another rec when we have more important needs in pass rusher and o line.

Gort's picture

You guys do realize that there are 31 other teams out there. All 32 are essentially looking for the same thing. Each team is awarded a chance to select 1 guy in each of 7 rounds. Choose your 1 guy then wait for the other 31 to choose 1 guy before another choice comes up. Yeah, I understand trades, compensatory picks, blah blah blah. Now throw in injuries, underachievers, overachievers, etc. and the whole process is a crap shoot.

CheesyTex's picture

It is baffling why such little attention has been paid to the absolute lack of O line talent. Reminds of when TT let Wahle and Rivera walk then tried to replace with cream puffs -- much more pounding on Favre, and far more hurried, bad QB decisions.

Give #12 even an average NFL line and he will be #12 again.

stockholder's picture

The trouble is OG. All project 2nd round. You then have to take a OT as an option. And move him. Spriggs was a LT. and couldn't do it. Bulaga made the switch. Just not many on the board in the first & 2nd rounds that can replace Bulaga. Do we move Bahk and Taylor? I wouldn't.

Old School's picture

Footballoutsiders ranks the line as well above average. PFF too.

LeotisHarris's picture

Old School, you're quoting PFF, and referencing rank for rushing and passing offense in prior posts. Just curious, were you able to watch the games this season? Yes, at times "people were getting blocked", but our offense was consistently an inconsistent cluster f*ck. It was bad, as in ineffective, as in the viewer screaming in his head "don't these guys practice?" How does an O-line with a RG who plays like a Bop-It clown on ice skates rank as above average?

Old School's picture

Yes I watch all the games and I record them and stour you what’s happening, just like I did for many years when I coached HS football here in Texas.

But I don’t watch every play of all32 teams. That why I think statistical rankings are a way to compare

RG is the least important position on offense, and it was the weakest part of our offense. But not the reason that our offense struggled. And overall, by any objective analysis, outline did a pretty decent job.

LeotisHarris's picture

You're a better man than I am, being able to watch this Packers teams' games more than once.

HankScorpio's picture

Maybe his experience as a Texas high school coach taught him how to be able to watch tape of his team getting destroyed.

Old School's picture

You know Hank, I had some good teams and some bad ones. Maybe that's why I understand that you are never as good, or as bad, as you looked.

I listen to people here who are allegedly Packer fans say our President sucks, our past GM sucks, our past HC sucks our interim Hc sucks, our offensive line sucks, Williams sucks, Graham sucks, our pass rush sucks, Perry and Martinez and Fackrell suck...........

The blathering know it alls don't have a fraction of the acumen of the professionals who run this Very Well Run organization. So I throw some facts out thereto are what blowhards like you will say. You rarely disappoint me.

The Packers had some bad luck with injuies and the bounce of the ball. Ithappens. But the nonsensical finger pointing that people like you are doing .....I Find it very insulting to a team I've cheered for over a halfcentury. If YOU are what being sLacker can is about, then I guess I don't belong.

But if you seriously believe for even one second that you know as much as the people who run this team....then seek help, because you don't.

PeteK's picture

Ahh ,some sensibility, thanks 91. I'm not always a big fan of free agency, but we need to take some chances and spend some money on some free agents. I remember Wolf saying that he wished that he surrounded Favre with more talent.

Archie's picture

You don't go from the GOAT at 33 years old to the trash heap 2 years later. Sure Rodgers had a bad year in 2018. So what. The point that two of the best defenses in football are now in our division has something to do with that. As does an OL that is not what it was, as does a set of WRs that is mostly rookies, two undrafted free agents and one old guy well past his prime (Graham). We have one prime time WR (Adams) - and he had not a career year with Rodgers this year but an ALL-TIME GREAT YEAR. Throw in a medieval/primitive offensive scheme that relies on each offensive player playing a near-perfect game and it is easy to see why Rodgers was not Rodgers this year. Hire a new HC, install an innovative offensive scheme ala LARams, and restock the offensive talent around Rodgers and I would almost guarantee you that Rodgers would be Rodgers again. Fans who think running Rodgers out-of-town at this point in his career know nothing about football.

Saw the Wildcats game last night. Two different games. Utes dominated first half and WolfCats dominated the 2nd half to gain easy win. Fitzgerald announced at the awards ceremony that he wasn't going anywhere, he was a WildCat for life. So that puts an end to that speculation.

Looks like the Pats OC to me.

EddieLeeIvory's picture

The Packers need more players who are self-motivated, who play with passion, who don't get hurt or nicked up ALL THE TIME like Kevin Queen.

Antonio Morrison needs to be back.
Nick Perry needs to be gone.

Would any team trade us anything for Kevin Queen?
I'll take a 6-pack of beer for his worthless $ stealing skinny punk.
Such a shame as 99% of us would have just drafted TJ Watt, but senile Ted had to show the World just how brilliant he was yet again, like his double play of Damarious Randall & Quinten Rollins who were both head-scratchers the moment they were selected.

PeteK's picture

Disappointing, I was happy when Jones and King were drafted because I thought their size would fit into the black and blue divisional play.

tincada's picture

There are one or two guys on this team that anyone is afraid of or cares about, AR and DA. That's it. This group needs a total rebuild.. They might get it together about the time AR calls it quits.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I like Morrison and would be happy to take him back as the #3 ILB. Not if he is the #2 ILB guy. He has significant limitations.

stockholder's picture

Move on Keep Ryan. Draft at least 1.

EddieLeeIvory's picture

The Packers need more players who are self-motivated, who play with passion, who don't get hurt or nicked up ALL THE TIME like Kevin Queen.

Antonio Morrison needs to be back.
Nick Perry needs to be gone.

Would any team trade us anything for Kevin Queen?
I'll take a 6-pack of beer for his worthless $ stealing skinny punk.
Such a shame as 99% of us would have just drafted TJ Watt, but senile Ted had to show the World just how brilliant he was yet again, like his double play of Damarious Randall & Quinten Rollins who were both head-scratchers the moment they were selected.

Since91's picture

We cannot rely on the draft to fix this....we need to spend wisely on veteran football players who have proven themselves
Fitzgerald
D Jackson
Cook
Saffold
Boston
Gilchrist
Graham
Collins
Clowney
Mosley
Spend it!

CheesyTex's picture

Love Larry Fitzgerald, but at 35 (now) and considering retirement after this season it would be really dicey to spend it on him.

Since91's picture

Can Rodgers complain about his route running?
Fitzgerald has 60 catches and six tds this year with a rookie
Fitzgerald is the perfect available number two option opposite Adams
I don’t care if he’s forty he’s better than what we have

PeteK's picture

Add Ford from KC to that list.

Since91's picture

Clowney Ford and Graham and Clark would be my top edge guys
Please Clowney don’t get franchised

tincada's picture

Game Balls

DeShone Kizer! Who the hell are you kidding? Might as well hand one to the janitors / clean up crew. The only good thing that came out of this "game" was to find out that Kizer / Hundley aren't back up QB levels guys. This game was a disgrace.

PeteK's picture

I thought he had his good moments. He could break a pane of glass unlike Huntley.

Go Bears's picture

He is washed up. He gave up on his team. Signed him for 6 years and all that money. Packturds better find a more reliable QB to back up Sharon Rodgers!!

jasonperone's picture

This team sucked yesterday. No one was trying hard, none more lollygagging than the O line. But yes, Kizer blew it, OK. Insert eye roll.

He was the only one out there trying! It's not a game ball for what he did. It's for his effort compared to the other 21 guys on the field.

HoLeCrap's picture

Game ball to Kizer who came in on short notice and only tossed one pick. Almost three but lucky the lions guys dropped them. Good Job.

Game ball to the guy who hit rodgers and left his head outside the helmit.

Game ball to the fans who never gave up. Matter of fact some are still there demanding their money back and throwing up beer all over the place

Lame calls - the coaches thinking the Packers could win against that vaunted LIons offense. I mean the pass D is the worst in football, has been for several years so how can you think you have a chance.

Lame call for anyone who thought Philbin is the guy. This team needs a disciplinatian who will get rid of the crap on this team and suffer through it

Curt's picture

Anybody that says they overprotect Rodgers is nuts - about pulled his head off ( got just the helmet) then landed on his head and doesn't even get penalized. AR gets a concussion.

BearsFan's picture

Rodgers should start doing Aflac commercials

Doug Niemczynski's picture

We have to get that OL in better shape. Can't have Rodgers get destroyed. Everything starts with the Offensive Line.

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