Just how good is Sean Clifford?

Can the 2023 rookie hold off a veteran signing?

 

We are officially less than 30 days from training camp, and while all eyes are on Jordan Love and if he can truly become the face of the franchise, there's another quarterback on the roster who fans might have some concerns about as well. Who? None other than 2023 rookie Sean Clifford out of Penn State.

While the aforementioned Love has been facing questions literally every day of minicamp about if he's "the guy", little notice is being said of the competition for the backup quarterback position. Coaching legend the late John Madden always said a team is only as good as its backup quarterback(if you don't believe it, go look back at the Packers' 2017 season), and should Love falter or get injured, we'll find out just how good this 2023 team is with Clifford under center. 

While we should never expect either Head Coach Matt LaFleur or General Manager Brian Gutekunst to publicly shame Clifford, little has been said about the quarterback room at all, other than the confidence in the personnel currently there. We've also heard no rumors of any veterans or undrafted free agents being brought in for workouts/evaluation, although that could change as teams start to make cuts during their respective training camps and the ensuing preseason.

I wouldn't say Clifford "killed it" during OTAs and minicamp, but he definitely made a play or two when on the field, including an impressive two-minute drill to close out the minicamp. I'm sure he probably took his lumps at times as well, but the coaching staff seemed to have mostly positive reviews about the rookie out of Penn State.

During the lead-up to the 2023 NFL Draft, there were many experts, myself included who didn't envision Clifford as draftable at all. Despite holding multiple Penn State all-time passing records, a career QBR of 70.875, a career passer rating of 143.8, and a resume that included just over 50 games, Clifford didn't impress the scouting community during the pre-draft process. I scouted him for the 2023 Hula Bowl and 2023 NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, and all I got was an athlete who could play the quarterback position in a pinch. His arm strength(or lack thereof) and a tendency to go from red hot to ice cold for lengths in a game stunted my interest in his potential. While Clifford had a masterful performance in the 2023 Rose Bowl with a win over PAC-12 juggernaut Utah, there's no telling when that QB will show up, and for how long he'll stay. Despite being the only Nittany Lion to not receive a Combine invitation, General Manager Brian Gutekunst saw fit to select Sean Clifford in the 5th Round of this year's Draft; although the front office did explain that after a run on quarterbacks that included Jake Haener, Stetson Bennett, Aidan O'Connell, Clayton Tune, and Dorian Thompson-Robinson between the 4th and 5th Rounds, the Packers felt they had no choice but to select a QB and address the obvious vacancy they had on the depth chart in regards to backing up Jordan Love. In the heat of the moment, I was more than a little disappointed; but given the prospects remaining at the time(only 3 QBs would hear their names called after Clifford), it was a sensible decision.

 

What does Clifford have going for him? Jordan Love, Danny Etling, Matt LaFleur, and Brian Gutekunst.

Why Jordan Love?

We all know how this saga began, and with the next chapter having Jordan as the starting quarterback, they will explore every possible avenue for him to be successful. I do not think the Packers would ever begin to think of "tanking" but they have no choice but to see this path to the very end. Barring injury that keeps Love out of games, I don't expect there to be any real concern about who's #2 on the depth chart. Just like the Packers will give Jordan every opportunity to excel, Clifford will have every opportunity to carry a clipboard and learn behind him.

Why Danny Etling? 

Despite hanging around the Packers and seven other teams around the league since being drafted in the 7th Round back in 2018,  Etling has yet to play any meaningful football in the pros. Rather than competition, what I really expect is for the elder statesman in Etling to help Clifford be a true pro in the NFL. Comparing the two, Clifford is the better athlete(the best among all three actually), has a higher football IQ, and fares better under pressure and in the pocket. If what we believe Clifford to be is true, he's decently ahead of Etling, and if Tom Clements can improve upon that, he may have victory drive/formation appeal. 

Why Matt LaFleur?

I believe we all expect to see the first true rendition of LaFleur's offense this season, without the interventions of a certain Super Bowl-winning quarterback now playing in the AFC East. We should expect to see plenty of motion, jet, counter, and RPO. These are all things that play into Clifford's strengths, without him exposing much of his weaknesses, which are arm strength and consistency. If Clifford has fewer reads to make, and less to react to, he can make better plays with increased confidence. I don't expect to see too many plays where deep ball placement is critical, except for play action; which I also don't expect to see until the offense is in rhythm well into the 2nd or 3rd quarter. Just like Matt LaFleur's offense will do everything it can to bring out the best in Jordan, it also has key concepts that Clifford can lean to his own talents to find success on the field.

Why Brian Gutekunst?

Looking over the last couple of years of the General Manager's stint at 1265, he just doesn't sign veterans for the sake of signing veterans. While I can't recall every single transaction Gutekunst has ever done for the Packers, I believe it's safe to say that the overwhelming majority of veterans signed were with the intent of them either starting or playing serious snaps as valued role players. Seeing as there is typically only one quarterback on the field for the offense at a time, there's just not room for a wiley veteran in the Packers' quarterback room; plus it would undermine the decision to hand the keys to the franchise to Love. Furthermore, veteran QBs who've had any semblance of either success or capability don't come cheap. With the Packers not completely out of the woods yet in regards to their cap situation a veteran QB would only complicate things. 

However, we could see Gutekunst make some moves during camp to bolster the Practice Squad if the team feels like it's time to move on from Etling. Given most GMs like to stick by their picks for at least a couple of years, I'd say Clifford has until 2025 to cement himself as the permanent #2 QB before the Packers consider making another "relatively high" selection on Draft Day(I do expect at least one or two 7th Rounders though). This is a rough developmental QB market right now, so if I had to throw something against the wall and see if it sticks I'm digging deep, real deep...like say Deandre Francois of the XFL's Orlando Guardians or EJ Perry of the USFL's Michigan Panthers to find another third-string quarterback with athleticism, arm strength, solid game experience, and some slight upside.

 

It's still too early to have any real indicators of the long-term success of Sean Clifford; but based on minicamp and OTAs, there's at least something to work with. Green Bay's got a solid QB coach in Tom Clements and a Head Coach who knows how to get creative with moving the football down the field. I'm not saying the Packers drafted a future star, I was even skeptical back in April myself given my own evaluation. However, it could be that the stars are aligning for Clifford to etch out a career as a quality reserve quarterback in the NFL. He doesn't need to be an All-Pro, he's not expected to be. What he is expected to do is not necessarily win games, but not lose them either. If called on to play he's got what should be a top-tier defense(*rolls eyes*) to keep the score manageable, a WR corps that is far and away an upgrade from anything he's ever had back in University Park, and a rushing attack that will be able to assist him keeping the offense on schedule and not have him shoulder too much all at once(just like Saquon Barkley and Miles Sanders did for him at Penn State). For lack of better words, if there was a team that could enable Sean Clifford to make all the "experts" look silly based on their predictions of his not amounting to much in the NFL, it's the 2023 Green Bay Packers. All Sean Clifford has to do is be his athletically gifted, high-IQ, woefully average self; the other 21 guys who take the field will do the rest.

Agree? Disagree? Feel free to let me know in the comments.

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Joseph has been an avid fan of the Green Bay Packers since 1997, citing an affinity for dairy products during his childhood and his favorite color, green. Born in Jacksonville, FL, Joseph currently is an Active Duty servicemember in the U.S. Armed Forces. Joseph considers himself a lifelong fan of the game of football, competing since his youth well into adulthood. When it comes to the Pack, Joseph is particularly impassioned about the NFL Draft and collegiate scouting process, and will contribute regularly on CHTV.com leading to that year's upcoming Draft. You can follow him on Twitter at @joeyreyallday.

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croatpackfan's picture

June 29, 2023 at 03:21 pm

Joseph, I agree with your fresh opinion on Sean Clifford. He played a lot and it does not matter that was college football. He played well enough that he kept on the bench some top 10 drafted QBs through his career. It tells a lot of him.

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stockholder's picture

June 29, 2023 at 03:59 pm

The packers drafted a future star.
Comparison Matt Flynn? Stronger Arm.

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lou's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:14 pm

Nice comparison. Flynn was so valuable, loved it before his first start which was against the Pat's and the Pack was listed as a huge underdog and McCarthy boldly stated, "the Green Bay Packers are no ones underdog". Flynn played well enough to win but a special teams recovery and long run for a TD by a huge lineman at the end lead to a loss.

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Coldworld's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:02 pm

So far he’s clearly been behind Etling from all I’ve heard, but that’s probably more due to system familiarity than anything. Once the pads come on and there is contact and a true rush, then we will start to see whether his mental acuity and extensive college experience make him ready to bridge the gap at this level.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 01:47 am

Concise! I think that's everything we know so far.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:50 pm

We didn’t even activate Love as a rookie, but we’re going to make Clifford the game backup? I don’t think so.

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Rarescope's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:57 pm

I'm putting a pin in that - I could see them going both ways. I'm sure the brass would say something like they're always playing to win the big one, but I see this season as quite different from Love's rookie season. If they view it as developmental as I do, then they may want him in there.

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Coldworld's picture

June 29, 2023 at 05:14 pm

Love was seen as a very high upside project in comments from the team at the time. Here we are looking at a QB that they picked because they thought he had a great chance yo be ready early. We also have a preseason and are looking forward to a full camp and exhibition game scenario. Love had neither in that Covid year.

I think they hope that Clifford is ready to win number 2, that would be the ideal outcome behind grabbing him when they did. However, he’s going to have to show he’s no worse than Etling in pads and preseason games. Unlike some, I don’t think it’s guaranteed without a showing of being ready. It’s also possible that Etling has a say in the matter

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Leatherhead's picture

June 29, 2023 at 06:39 pm

Coldworld,you know as well as I do how conservative the 1265 brass is. I doubt like hell they had a meeting at the big table and said "Our plan is to get a QB on Day 3 of the draft who is so freakin' good that he could be our starter if Love gets hurt".

I'm still thinking we'll be picking up a QB before the season starts. It's the stronger move. I hate to say this, I really do, but Teddy Bilgewater would be a big upgrade as a backup, he's still without a team, he's only 30, and he's started quite a few games, and won his share.

He has a purple taint. As a rule, I avoid the purple taint, and I'm not ever interested in signing players or coaches who have a purple taint. But he's such a much better option than Clifford or Etling that it needs to be considered.

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dobber's picture

June 30, 2023 at 08:26 am

"I'm still thinking we'll be picking up a QB before the season starts."

Agree, if only because they've got 3 QBs on the roster now. They'll need to at least find a camp arm to take some of the volume off these guys so they don't wear themselves out. Rather than finding some ragamuffin D-III guy, they'll find someone who has played--you point to TB, but Nick Foles and Carson Wentz have been linked to the Packers in the past. These guys know that if they want to keep playing ball, they can't stay at home too long in 2023...they'll need to be in a camp as close to the start as possible, and they'll be available for pennies on the dollar.

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JosephR's picture

June 29, 2023 at 05:48 pm

You have to understand that Love and Clifford are on two different trajectories. Love was drafted as the future. There was no rush for him to play whatsoever, the same with Rodgers before him. Clifford's time is now as the potential backup QB. Green Bay/Gutekunst isn't going to likely invest 3 years into him developing into such. Either he will have the tools required, gain them quickly, or be jettisoned for the next young signal caller that they can get out of the Draft. I'm almost certain that for the next 2-3 years Gutekunst will have several players that he likes where if they fall too far he'll snatch them up to challenge Clifford for the spot.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 29, 2023 at 06:43 pm

So, the plan, from that exceptionally conservative front office, is to have a Day 3 rookie start if Love is injured? That's what you believe?

You are correct they aren't going to invest 3 years in him, but they'll invest one, because if Clifford works out, we'll have a quality backup for years. Just not this year. And the problem is that right now, it's Etling or Clifford. What would John Madden say about that? IMO, we should add a guy who has actually played in an NFL game as Love's backup.

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dobber's picture

June 30, 2023 at 08:42 am

Agreed. He's someone who--unless he's lights out in the preseason--is just another late-round QB. Clifford has PS written all over him and should be easy to get there. He's going to need work and time...everyone else will be happy to let the Packers make that investment.

We seem to be ignoring the fact that a woefully underprepared passer stunts the growth of all the pieces around him--the Packers will likely be forced to run 55% of the time (or more), the downfield routes will likely become an afterthought, and the lack of arm talent and decision making on a young and inexperienced QB will mean a plethora of errant throws and poor reads.

The development of all these young pieces will require at least a competent NFL passer.

And for those out there who want to talk Brock Purdy--how many Purdy's have we seen in the last 20 years? And I'm still convinced he'll be exposed (if he makes it back) as a less than average passer in 2023.

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Rarescope's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:54 pm

Joseph, I always look forward to reading your articles since watching you on CHTV's draft coverage in 2022. I might get flamed for some of this but here goes:

"Coaching legend the late John Madden always said a team is only as good as its backup quarterback"

Nice sound bite but if your starting QB doesn't get hurt your backup QB has next to zero impact on the game and the only reason it is next to zero and not zero is because he's there practicing with the team throughout the season helping them get better, and he is there as a resource for the starting QB. Maybe he notices something the defense is doing that he can pass on or something like that. Nick Foles and Brock Purdy are both great stories that I followed with glee but they are the exception that makes the rule.

I get that it is the offseason but this just isn't that big of a deal - unless you're one of those people writing into Insider Inbox every day asking Mike and Wes if they think GB will sign a veteran QB (*rolls eyes*)

"Barring injury that keeps Love out of games, I don't expect there to be any real concern about who's #2 on the depth chart."

Exactly. I'm as excited as the next guy to see how this season goes but my expectation is for a decent developmental year - nothing more, nothing less. If Sean has to go in more power to him and I hope he balls out because I love an underdog story. But other than that our backup QB is pretty far down my priority list.

"If called on to play he's got what should be a top-tier defense(*rolls eyes*) to keep the score manageable"

Ha! Well played sir ;)

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JosephR's picture

June 29, 2023 at 06:14 pm

For the 2023 team, the backup quarterback isn't necessarily a high priority. But for teams that believe they are ready to make a push, they absolutely are.

Going back to the 2017 example. Brett Hundley lost 70% of the games he started, plummeting the Packers to a 7-9 record. Had Aaron Rodgers been healthy, that team probably finishes 12-4 and wins the NFC North. If Hundley had played just 25 percent better, the Packers probably sneak into the playoffs at 10-6 and possibly upset the Vikings, Saints, or even the eventual Super Bowl Champion Eagles in the playoffs.

So maybe not this year, but in 2024 and beyond I'd say the #2 QB absolutely matters.

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splitpea1's picture

June 29, 2023 at 07:12 pm

The backup QB should be a high priority. Suppose Love were to go down for an extended period? We still have a young offense to develop, and you would hate to see that stalled by unacceptable QB play. That's not a knock on Clifford or anyone else, but an acknowledgment that we'll be navigating through a fair amount of unknowns this season.

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Coldworld's picture

June 30, 2023 at 11:02 am

The reality is that we can’t and we’re never going to be able to afford a good FA back up this year. There aren’t any out there who are affordable and likely to carry a young team to notable success. QBs that are thought to be able to do that are not cheap and are probably looking for an opportunity to be starting now or in the medium term. An aging rental, even if successful, just likely worsens out draft position next year and slows out cap recovery.

We are going to do what we did with Rodgers, as I see it. Let him be the man through camp and develop (Flynn and Brohm) behind him. Unless the season goes crazily above expectations, that’s unlikely to change because we want Love to grow and will give him every chance. If injury derails that, unless we really think we can compete in the New Year, we will just ride with Clifford or Etling (who was surprisingly good in preseason last year).

Only if there are injuries or both do a Brohm (Flynn was always the number 2) will that change before the season and only a rip-roaring start might change that in the event Love goes down and is expected to be out a while. Sorry, but absent a too-good-to-miss affordable cut, I don’t see much chance of a vet number 2 otherwise. It is possible they’d pick up an alternative 3rd if a better one shakes free.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 01:57 am

JosephR,

yes, I think this is one year there's no expectations on the team. We should enjoy it! If every player gives 100% effort on every play all season long, that would be a HUGE difference from last season and could set the team identity for the next decade +.

How much of that is on coaches vs players? We'll find out a lot about all these individuals this year, they have more development to do in the "draft and develop" pipeline than we've seen in a very long time. I hope they've been excelling at it, and with the whole 90 man roster ...

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dobber's picture

June 30, 2023 at 08:33 am

25% of a dollar is only a quarter--and that still doesn't buy you anything of note. I don't know what "playing 25% better" means for a QB, but Hundley was horrible...couldn't set his feet, panic throws falling backward--he was a mess. 25% better means he moves from horrible to awful.

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Swisch's picture

June 29, 2023 at 04:59 pm

This may be kind of a free season for the Packers as far as not having much in the way of expectations other than to play hard, play smart, and show good progress.
In that case, maybe we go with Clifford as the backup instead of a veteran.
If Love is injured, we would see what we have in Clifford.
If all the experience Clifford has from Penn State has him looking like a competent NFL quarterback in training camp -- then maybe we are willing to test him on the field, if need be, like a Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud (in contrast to a rawer talent like Anthony Richardson).
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I'm still hoping the Packers contend for the playoffs this season at about 9-8, but it's also a season of development for the players as individuals and as a team.
Always play to win, but not necessarily at all costs.
This season of 2023 is a balance of playing to win and playing for development.
It's a season more for evaluating whether or not to keep our coaches, over expecting too much from our players other than promise and enthusiasm.
The season of 2024 is about the players breaking out.
The season of 2025 is about winning the Super Bowl.
Of course, along with wanting to be patient, I'm all for getting better as soon as possible.

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T7Steve's picture

June 30, 2023 at 08:14 am

"I'm still hoping the Packers contend for the playoffs this season"

Yes!

They are competing for a playoff spot this season. What no one seems to be saying is that even if they sneak in, (I think they can win the division) the playoffs start a whole new season. Love and this young team's second as starters. Their health at the end of the season will dictate more than anything else.

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Swisch's picture

June 30, 2023 at 01:11 pm

That was the way to a title in 2010, although it was in Rodgers' third season as a starter, whereas Love is in his first.
Even if the Packers don't seek to win at all costs, I want them to go all out to win.
Try to get into the postseason, then try to keep winning the next game.
Go as far as possible, even if it means -- like the 2001 Patriots -- winning the Super Bowl. Why not?

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GregC's picture

June 29, 2023 at 05:41 pm

Nice article, but nobody every writes anything about Danny Etling. He looked pretty good in the preseason last year. I think the battle for the #2 QB spot will be one of the most interesting battles in training camp, because the backup QBs always get lots of playing time in the preseason games. This one looks pretty even. May the best man win!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 02:00 am

Greg, I'm hoping preseason games are handled entirely differently this year. Not just JL10 but a lot of known starters need the reps. There are rare exceptions to that. It'll be interesting to see how they distribute playing time among the three QBs ...

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2023 at 05:42 pm

You're only as good as your backups, especially at QB. Backups need to know their jobs, and coaches need to know the limitations of those backups. How can in-game adjustments be made when starters get hurt, which IMO, was part of the issue with MLF and his assistants. In-game adjustments were horrible, and not just last season, but from his first season.

The better the backups and the coaches knowing the limits of each, will cut the probability of a loss. Although, the signing of basement furniture level players makes much of the former moot. There are a lot of new young players so where each are at this time is a question, and yes, that includes Jordan Love, because we simply don't really know what he is, yet, and that makes the backup QB important ASAP, not later.

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T7Steve's picture

June 30, 2023 at 09:29 am

"In-game adjustments were horrible, and not just last season, but from his first season."

In-game adjustments were/or seemed non-existent and through the first four seasons, were able to be overcome, till the playoffs against the playoff caliber coaching/adjusting.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 30, 2023 at 10:05 am

If you cannot make the adjustments against the quality teams, are you really overcoming the issue, if only against the obvious lesser teams and coaches, and who was it that made the difference against the lesser? Perhaps he who is no longer here, or will MLF be exposed as McCarthy was and still is in Dallas.

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beerandbrats's picture

June 29, 2023 at 05:51 pm

Nice write up Joseph. The Clifford pick was definitely a head scratcher but nobody expected Brock Purdy to be starting material either. I like his big game experience in the Big Ten. He definitely has some potential.

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LLCHESTY's picture

June 29, 2023 at 06:53 pm

Going to voice ads was bad enough but now there's voice ads with no way to cancel them? This site is just about unusable on a mobile device. Started up when I was at a sit down restaurant for lunch. Unbelievably annoying.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 29, 2023 at 08:51 pm

Weird!
My iPhone is old and my iPad is pretty new and I never get that!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 02:03 am

What browser are you using? Brave has adblocker, I'm sure there are better.

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T7Steve's picture

June 30, 2023 at 08:20 am

"Annoying" is sitting at lunch with someone on their phone. Get takeout and sit in your car if you want to be on your devise.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 30, 2023 at 11:07 am

I’ve been tempted to join in on the conversation if the person is close enough and loud enough. I’ve never DONE it, but it has crossed my mind.

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TxFred's picture

June 29, 2023 at 08:34 pm

I think Clifford is a good fit. Major school experience. Fits with offense. Relates & communicates with the squad. Etting has an age gap, can be uneasy. Clements can get Clifford to where he needs to be. Hopefully JL stays healthy. Long season, teams will take shots at JL, to see what he's got. Clifford will be ready. Worse thing would be older, cast off QB
Not smart for this young, energized offense. Sends a no confidence message. MLF & Clements can get Clifford ready. The team will respond. GPG!!!!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 02:05 am

Fred, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out! How will they manage playing time in preseason games among the three QBs?

At every position, I'm hoping the entire coaching staff is creating real competition and merit determines the roster.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 29, 2023 at 08:53 pm

Job number one would be “no TJ Rubley style audibles”.

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Since'61's picture

June 30, 2023 at 07:30 am

Cookie! Thanks, Since '61

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 30, 2023 at 11:08 am

WooHoo! Thanks, Since 61!

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Oppy's picture

June 29, 2023 at 09:10 pm

Sean Clifford was drafted because the Packers don't have a valid back up QB. They have Danny Etling, who's a camp arm and would likely be out the league if it wasn't for the new rules applied during covid that change how players are deemed eligible for PS.

He seems like a bright young man who knows how to play football. Arm talent doesn't seem to be there. He's the definition of a back up QB most likely. Maybe a good one.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 02:07 am

Oppy, once Clifford knows the offense well enough I think he'll be a perfect fit! I'm assuming his short range accuracy can be fixed with a pro schedule, and he's working with such a great QB coach.

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GregC's picture

June 30, 2023 at 04:25 am

In the preseason last year, Etling was 17 of 22 for 220 yards and a TD, plus he had a 51-yard TD run. That's pretty darn good!

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Coldworld's picture

June 30, 2023 at 11:16 am

I think Etling is more highly rated than many here believe. I think the Packers see him as a credible contender to start if needed, if not an optimal one. They could easily have swapped him out for a Benkert or other free agent.

Yes, he’s bounced around, but he’s smart and did well in preseason last year and is not old by QB standards. He’s back for a reason and that’s to compete with Clifford. Clifford was simply the best remaining draft prospect in their eyes still on the board, as they pretty clearly stated. They need two for depth and to compete.

It’s notable that they’ve not signed a 4th camp arm. They apparently want all getting as many snaps as possible, which suggests either that all 3 may be here in season across the active and PS squads or that they want Etling and Clifford to show whose the best option now if Love were to go down,

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Swisch's picture

June 30, 2023 at 12:06 pm

In a way, Etling is a veteran quarterback, although lacking in game experience.
It does seem reasonable he and Clifford could both be kept throughout this upcoming season as backups for Love.
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A big variable is what other veterans may be out there at quarterback, how much they cost, how okay they are in the role of backup.
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I'm looking forward to seeing in the preseason whether or not Clifford shows glimpses of having at least a little of the likes of Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, and other QBs drafted in later rounds.
Clifford may be overwhelmed by the NFL; but then again, he may be a guy who actually does better in the pros than in college.

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Oppy's picture

June 30, 2023 at 09:05 pm

Etling is the camp arm assuming they like what they got in Clifford. They will place him on PS and let him throw to PS players.

Yes, there's a reason Etling has bounced around the league. There's a reason why he made an attempt at converting to RB in his second year in the pros.

If the Packers thought Etling was backup QB material, they most likely wouldn't have spent draft capital on Clifford.

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Oppy's picture

June 30, 2023 at 09:11 pm

Yes, largely against other teams' 3rd stringers and PS types.

Etling has been with 8 different teams in 5 years including a CFL team (he was with Seattle twice, Packers twice) and has never made a 53 man roster on cut down day.

He's an athletic football player, and had a nice college career.

I am truly sorry, but anyone who thinks he's a viable backup QB in the NFL is fooling themselves. What he is, is a guy who now knows the system and can save wear and tear on QB1 and QB2's arms.

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PackfanNY's picture

June 29, 2023 at 10:18 pm

My son went to Penn State. I probably watched almost every game of Clifford’s College career. He may well turn into a serviceable NFL backup. He has a decent arm and good athleticism. He is NOT ready to step in should Love get injured. No way. I am pretty surprised that Gute hasn’t traded for a veteran backup QB. I think he might be waiting to see what he’s got in camp. Maybe Etling is the #2. My guess is they will add someone as teams cut down.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 29, 2023 at 10:38 pm

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 02:09 am

I hope they don't have to add a veteran backup QB. FO told us if they were going to, they'd do it right away after mini camp.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

June 30, 2023 at 01:46 am

Joe, we've discussed this here a lot. You didn't mention that he kept Will Levis off the field. While our WRs get a lot of attention, it makes sense for this offense to mainly use RB & TE, especially early in the season. If they can establish dink and dunk proficiency and gain confidence and momentum, somebody's gotta get open downfield. We haven't seen JL10 find them yet, it's too early to be worried about a backup QB without a cannon.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Etling keeps the #2 spot for a while until the rookie learns the playbook better. In terms of "relying on athleticism," that mostly depends on an O line like a sieve; we're hoping they'll dominate! That's also key to keeping JL10 healthy. If he were to go down to injury, we might wind up with 3 wins. Not only is the team committed to JL10 this season (and probably next) FO has told us if they were to add a veteran backup QB they'd start the process immediately after mini camp. Since we've seen no indication of a search we should take that as Gutey and MLF being content with the current room, and I think the consensus here agrees.

Personally, I think the rookie is about as perfect as you can get for the role. Remember that Favre was starved of deep threats to prevent him risking turnovers on long pass attempts. Jimmy G levels of competence should be all we need. If JL10 can add some deep throws to a WR wide open, he still doesn't need to achieve AR12 skill at threading the needle to have a more successful career.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 30, 2023 at 11:10 am

How big a rarity is Brock Purdy? Last pick in the draft, yes, but great team around him. Gives us all hope.

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Packers0808's picture

June 30, 2023 at 09:50 am

Clifford almost sounds like a young Bart Starr description in many ways!

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10ve 💚's picture

June 30, 2023 at 10:59 am

"All Sean Clifford has to do is be his athletically gifted, high-IQ, woefully average self; the other 21 guys who take the field will do the rest."

Rich Bisaccia may not be happy with the slight 😀

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Starrbrite's picture

June 30, 2023 at 10:16 pm

I believe we should sign Carson Wentz as a backup, dump Etling, and develop Clifford.
Go Packers!!!

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PatrickGB's picture

July 01, 2023 at 07:45 am

The new third QB rule might be why he sticks.

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