It's Time for Van Ness to Unleash the Beast
The stage is set for a Lukas Van Ness breakout season
By GregMeinholz

One of the last things a fan wants to hear after their pick is announced in the first round of the draft is, "he'll be a project player." It drains the excitement away of possibly having a contributor the following season and instead, it tells you to be patient, which football fans rarely are. It's like you're a kid and your birthday just rolled around and instead of getting that cool new toy to play with right then and there, your parents gave you a savings bond and your Dad can't stop telling you about how it'll be worth so much money in a couple of years when it matures. As fans of the Green Bay Packers, we're very much used to being given those savings bonds when draft day rolls around. They're dull and unexciting at first, but suddenly after a few years, they're some of the most valuable items in our possession as our patience begins to pay off.
Looking at the past, some of those most notable project picks were names like Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, and Rashan Gary. Rashan Gary might be the most notable "project pick" in recent Packers history as he was taken 12th overall in 2019. Packers fans, including yours truly were very confused by the pick, some were even angry with it. How can you have such a high pick, and spend it on a guy that won't contribute for a few years? Sure it was a little disappointing to think our top-15 pick may not make a difference for another season or two, but after watching Rashan Gary for a bit I began to buy into the fact that if we put him on the field now, he could just be "good" but if we wait a year or so, let him develop and have some patience, he could turn to "great."
That patience has paid off for Packer fans as Rashan Gary is currently one of the best pass rushers in the league. Injuries have derailed the past two seasons for him a bit, but he's a pass rusher who's always right on the cusp of that double-digit sack season. Even if he doesn't have the sack stat, his pressure on the QB is seemingly never-ending and can lead to turnovers. In 2023 the Packers made another Rashan Gary-like move in drafting pass rusher Lukas Van Ness 13th overall to yet again, be another "project player." This time, I was a lot more willing to buy in. And this year may actually be the time to cash in on our patience.
Statistically speaking, Lukas Van Ness actually had a better rookie season than Rashan Gary. Van Ness had 4 sacks to Gary's 2, Van Ness had 8 tackles for loss to Gary's 3, and Van Ness also had 10 QB hits to Gary's 3. But it must be taken into account that Van Ness played one more game than Gary and also had 365 defensive snaps his rookie season to Gary's 244. It was roughly the same situation, but different at the same time. Gary was drafted to sit behind two recently signed free-agent pass rushers, Za'Darius and Preston Smith. Van Ness was behind Preston Smith and Rashan Gary, but he may have benefited a bit from the Packers knowing what they had in Smith and Gary so they knew when to use them and when to give Van Ness a few snaps.

Setting the Stage for 2024
In his rookie season in 2023, Lukas Van Ness had to learn to play off the edge standing up. He was drafted by a team that ran a 3-4 defense, but even then, he still occasionally put his hand in the dirt when coming off the edge. In college at Iowa, Van Ness played defensive end and occasionally defensive tackle, always with his hand in the ground lined up. So, you could say he is back at home in a way. Does that mean his last season of development and learning was a loss because he was learning a different way that he'll no longer use? No, in fact, it may have been beneficial for him to get a taste of some new and different techniques. Coming off the edge in a two-point instead of three can be a little more speed or finesse-oriented trying to get the upper hand on an offensive tackle before they're ready, This can be beneficial to catch a lineman off-guard when they're expecting more power coming out of a three-point stance.
So far, in Training Camp, Lukas Van Ness has been making his presence known. Obviously, with the Quarterbacks wearing the red shirts we can't count true sacks, only potential sacks. But in the world of potential sacks, Van Ness may be second just behind Rashan Gary. Admittedly, a lot of the havoc Van Ness has been wreaking has been on backups. Kadeem Telford has gotten beat up a bit by Van Ness when they've faced each other, as well as Caleb Jones. He's been in the face of Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt often and also has gotten potential sacks on Jordan Love if not at least hurried throws. Put some of those reps against Jordan Love against an opposing team's QB and perhaps they're laying on the ground. Rashan Gary has thoroughly embarrassed Andre Dillard so far in camp, I'd honestly like to see Van Ness lined up against the former first-round tackle to see if he has the same success.
Of course, this all needs to translate to the field on game day.
Last year was just the beginning. This year I think Van Ness will be a bit more comfortable in his role and that will lead to lots of success. We saw a few stunts run with Devonte Wyatt last season, one notable one leading to a sack of Buccaneers Quarterback Baker Mayfield. With Van Ness now putting his hand in the dirt, I think we're going to see a lot more of those stunts, and hopefully, they will lead to more sacks on the stat sheet for both players. One thing that I think needs to happen is that Lukas Van Ness needs to find his attitude.
Something that's sorely needed out of any pass rusher is that dawg mentality, that ruthless aggression to destroy anything that lays between you and taking down the Quarterback. Over the years, we've seen that in several Packers pass rushers. The most notable to me, both wear or have worn number 52 in Rashan Gary and Clay Matthews. Van Ness is lucky to have Rashan Gary to model after. Lukas Van Ness was advertised to have a high motor, and a relentlessness to make the play. We've seen that on the stat sheet, but haven't as much felt that relentlessness in a game. We don't just want the opposing team to realize Lukas Van Ness is playing, we want them to feel it too. Through sacks, big hits, and also celebration. Make a play, get the crowd fired up and on your side.
No time is better than the present for a Lukas Van Ness breakout. It's time to unleash the beast within and team up with Rashan Gary to wreak havoc on opposing QB's.
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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.
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Comments (22)
Bearmeat
August 04, 2024 at 06:48 am
Yeah. We’ll see. I hope so too. But our backup OTs are…ahem… a work in progress. If you look at the snap breakdown from family night, Gary and Preston got 23 snaps and LVN 3…
TKWorldWide
August 04, 2024 at 07:39 am
It’ll be interesting to see how the snaps this are divided between Gary, LVN, Preston Smith, and to a lesser extent Enagbare.
LLCHESTY
August 04, 2024 at 01:23 pm
Gary and Smith might not play at all in the 1st preseason game so they got more snaps last night.
TKWorldWide
August 05, 2024 at 06:19 am
Ok, cool, thanks!
(But I meant during the regular season.)
LLCHESTY
August 05, 2024 at 11:07 am
I'm hoping the top three all get between 600-650 and Enagbare gets 350-400 but I could see Gray getting 700-750 and LVN getting 500-550. Assuming health keeping them as fresh as possible for the playoffs should be the goal.
Oppy
August 05, 2024 at 04:39 pm
If LVN really has the inside-out versatility he was purported to have coming out of the draft, it’s feasible he could get nearly as many snaps as Gary in 2024 if he’s developed. That kind or versatility can make you a chess piece and keep you on the field in multiple situations and personnel groups.
That being said, I’m actually not sold on LVN at this point. I wouldn’t say I’m not a fan or have negativity towards him, I’d just say that I haven’t seen what all the hubbub is about quite yet. I don’t see the power or athleticism that everyone raves about yet. I think he still has more growing to do before he’s a major contributor.
Hope I’m wrong.
Ferrari-Driver
August 04, 2024 at 09:34 am
How can the author get a "-1" vote count when the only option I see is to vote positive? I don't believe I have ever seen that on this website before.
HawkPacker
August 04, 2024 at 10:02 am
I just wiped that out.
TKWorldWide
August 06, 2024 at 08:28 am
I’d say it’s achieved through pad level, stacking success, and buying into the system.
Packerpasty
August 04, 2024 at 09:54 am
Good perspective...a higher first round draft choice should not take 2/3 years before contributing significantly...sure hope he "busts out" this year...he has all the tools...
HawkPacker
August 04, 2024 at 10:03 am
Those have been my thoughts as well but it more than likely is the position that takes this long to adjust to at the NFL level.
TKWorldWide
August 05, 2024 at 06:22 am
Agreed. Edge seems to be one of the positions that requires time to adjust. In my simplistic mind, it comes down to a great college rusher being able to dominate physically, whereas in the NFL that physical advantage largely disappears, so they gotta learn techniques. (Just my one and a half cents.)
Ok, so, adjusting isn’t really a thing?
Oppy
August 04, 2024 at 10:38 am
Short sightedness can leadsto long term roster problems.
There’s thousands of nfl players who were NFL ready but didn’t have the long-term upside for growth required to become special players.
If you think you’ve identified a player with the talent ceiling to become a game changer, sometimes the wait is worth it vs. taking the player who can contribute immediately but might not have the aptitude for growth.
LambeauPlain
August 04, 2024 at 10:12 am
I feel Van Ness is on the cusp of breaking out in a big way. He and Enagbare are going to get many snaps in the new Pack Attack Defense. I don't think he will be the starter this season.
Preston still stands in his way to be a starter and continues to play at a very high level. Preston is not flashy but he dependably sets up a wall of steel edge the LBs appreciate. Solid and productive football player.
HawkPacker
August 04, 2024 at 10:12 am
I remember when Gary was drafted. Being a Big 10 fan, I had never heard much about him and was a bit disappointed. And after seeing him take so long to develop I was more confused. Apparently it takes some time to adjust to this position at the NFL level. I am now very happy with the selection as most are in Packerland.
Now fast forward to LVN. I am a Hawkeye fan in addition to a Packer fan so I have been very familiar with LVN. Yes, he was special at Iowa and I was happy he was selected by the Packers. He, like Gary, is taking some time to adjust the the NFL.
When he came out, the only move he really had was the Bull Rush and he needed time to develop more moves at this position. I did see his speed on display when he ran down a pretty fast QB last season and got the sack/tackle. I can't remember which QB it was but I am thinking that QB from the Bears that is no longer with the team or quite possibly Mahomes as shown in the picture in the article.
I am looking forward to seeing him play more this year and really excited about Enagbare as well.
jont
August 04, 2024 at 11:45 am
Yes, it was Fields, and it was a big play.
In the CHTV survey I picked LVN as the potential break-out player. He has all the size, skills, and measurables you can hope for, a year's experience, Gary to draw teh double teams, and, now, an aggressive coach who should put him in a position to succeed.
NickPerry
August 04, 2024 at 11:47 am
I still like the Van Ness pick and think he'll be BETTER than Gary one day. D-Line is a position even high draft picks normally don't really stand out right away. It takes time. I'm really excited about this defense this year. The Packers have DEPTH up front, IMO a D-Line that is going to be a problem for opposing O-Lines this year.
I was watching a You-Tube video yesterday and they flashed a stat I had no idea about last season. The stat they flashed was Davante Wyatt had 45 HURRIES to go along with his 5.5 sacks. Now I think that's exciting. If he was able to put up those numbers in Barry's defense, what might he be able to do when rotating inside with LVN, Brooks, and Clark? LVN is a DE who was MOVED to OLB, but he's best in a 4-3. He can play inside and out which is extremely valuable.
LVN knows...It Is Time!
LambeauPlain
August 04, 2024 at 12:34 pm
CHTV has me login in again after 5 minutes of pause?
huh.
Spock
August 05, 2024 at 10:17 am
You're lucky you got five. Yesterday I gave up after being kicked off in less than THREE minutes (I know that because my screen saver is set at 3 minutes and I'd gone to put a dish into the sink) three times. It's been especially frustrating watching videos as I've been kicked off multiple times for "inactivity". Maybe I need to start juggling balls while watching, LOL.
splitpea1
August 04, 2024 at 12:35 pm
Glad to finally see an article about Van Ness. It seems he's been a little under the radar in recent discussions due to the Love signing and some of the new defensive players we'll be counting on this season. But this is a guy we should be really looking forward to with taking that second-year leap.
There's a little more to it, though, than simply letting him loose.
From one of the podcasts right here on Cheesehead TV, areas of improvement include showing a better ability to disengage from blocks (especially from TEs), recognizing the need for run containment by not being fooled by motion and gadgets, and developing a repertoire of pass rush moves. The coaching staff can also help him out by lining him up out wider more often so he's dealing with less traffic and taking advantage of his speed.
Starrbrite
August 04, 2024 at 01:42 pm
Let the Big Dog Eat!!
Go Packers!!!
Packer_Fan
August 04, 2024 at 01:52 pm
Until real tackling begins, it is hard to determine if Van Ness is making a big step forward. I watched the family night scrimmage and very little contact. I did notice that Heath made some nice contested catches and Love makes a difference with the 1 on 1's.