It’s Now or Never for Pettine

2020 might be Mike Pettine's last chance with the Packers. 

Matt LaFleur made a gutsy call bringing Mike Pettine back for another year. LaFleur had no ties to Pettine prior to arriving in Green Bay, and no one would have blamed him if he decided to go a different direction. However, LaFleur stuck by his defensive coordinator, even when he had plenty of reasons to part ways. A decision that still feels questionable six months later.
 
Less than a month after seeing the defense get gouged for 285 rushing yards by the San Francisco 49ers, LaFleur made the call to stick with Pettine for another year. Pettine is widely considered a player’s coach who as won over the locker room and clearly the coaching staff as well.
 
One moment that sticks out, in particular, came in 2018 when Aaron Rodgers called one of Pettine’s speeches to the team a “near all-timer.” A former head coach in the NFL, Pettine has plenty of experience as a leader. One would have to assume it’s a large part of why he is still around.
 
Although, leadership aside, a Pettine-led defense hasn’t finished in the top 10 in total defense since 2013 when he was with the Buffalo Bills. The Packers finished 18th in total defense last year. It was nothing to hang their hat on, but it was better than 22nd, which is what they finished in Pettine’s first season in Green Bay. Frankly, Pettine hasn’t made much of a name for himself lately.
 
In his defense, Pettine did not have a great pool of talent to work with in 2018. However, year two he had a tandem of top edge rushers in the league, a new safety in Adrian Amos, a healthy Kevin King, and a multitude of other pieces that probably should have resulted in a better product. For all intended purposes, it didn’t. 
 
Sure, the defense was more opportunistic in creating turnovers, but as far as being able to get stops week after week, it was hard to tell much of a difference from year one and year two. Their pass defense remained penetrable, while the run defense was a good offensive line away from being nonexistent.
 
If the problem really is a lack of talent, it’s hard to imagine much changing next year. Their top run defender Blake Martinez is now a New York Giant. He’s been replaced by Christian Kirksey who is arguably a better fit because of his athleticism, but presents a larger risk given his injury history.
 
Meanwhile, very little was done to strengthen the defensive line. Rather than use their assets to get help for Kenny Clark, the Packers appear hopeful in seeing more impact from lesser-proven guys. Yet another risky gamble.
 
Albeit, the Packers are seemingly pretty comfortable taking risks. After all, they took one in LaFleur, and so far it has paid off. Now LaFleur has taken a risk of his own in hanging onto Pettine for the time being, but his leash may shorten if the defense doesn’t show improvement in his second year at the helm. Before long, LaFleur could choose to find his own defensive coordinator rather than stay content with a guy he practically inherited.

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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stockholder's picture

July 06, 2020 at 06:38 am

Nice read on the Tea Leaves. But I Still don't see the loss of Martinez a problem. The problem has been the Defensive Line. It's been the problem since 2010. And that problem will just get bigger if they lose Clarke. It's hard to blame Pettine. Gutey is responsible. Not Pettine. I just don't get how we can keep getting DL, and make them LBs. A Gravedigger, or another big bodied guy, would benefit every LB more. Not to mention the teammates in the trench. Hey, Gutey had a chance to sign another quality DL. Why can't he see what the whole NFL sees. That the packers DL is not championship material. And not fixing it. Only hurts everyone.

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Coldworld's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:15 am

More importantly, the team seem to see Martinez as part of the problem: a square peg in a round hole. I will certainly be looking to see how this defense is supposed to function in run situations this year, as no doubt our opponents will be as well.

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dobber's picture

July 06, 2020 at 11:31 am

I don't know that Martinez was viewed as part of the problem or just not part of the solution...whether it's because of the things that he couldn't do or because of the $$ he would command to keep. I actually think Martinez will play well for the Giants. I don't think Kirksey will be a revelation, but the uptick in athleticism and cash saved makes him a reasonable replacement (assuming they can keep him on the field) until they can find someone who is.

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greengold's picture

July 07, 2020 at 11:00 am

Gutekunst is a smart guy. He knows he needed veteran DL added to his roster. The price in FA was high, and he has been in "VALUE" mode this offseason, after spending big time last offseason.

I'll venture that was one of the reason's for his not drafting NT or DT in April. Add to that his signings of Gerald Willis and Treyvon Hester. The Willis release by the Dolphins the day prior to the draft, and that fact that no other team jumped on him had to have looked pretty special to Gutey. Add the Hester signing shortly after the draft, and they have some potential to work with this camp. Remember, Hester kept CHI out of the playoffs with his blocked FG, and Willis, the brother of Safety Landon Collins, was a projected R3 in the 2019 draft.

Not saying these guys are the answer. More that they are in house for a very close up look to see how they fit Pettine's D needs, and if they don't work out, Gutekunst knows he has signings he can make after roster cuts, along with possible trade before the deadline as remaining avenues to add veteran talent to the DL.

I have zero doubts Gutekunst will be ready to fire away to sign another player at roster cuts or to make a player trade if need be.

Add in the continued development of Kingsley Keke, and that of hopefully Tyler Lancaster and Dean Lowry. I'm writing off Montravius Adams completely, and wished like many we could write off Lancaster and Lowry after their poor showings last season.

>>>> Drafted DL generally take 1-2 years to develop the body strength to handle the NFL game effectively. Seems Gutekunst understood this, and wanted veteran talent that he was able to afford.

I wanted Gutes to sign Michael Pierce in the worst way, but understand he's struggled with conditioning problems while at BAL. Not sure why I was so high on Pierce (hype?) as his stats were nearly identical to those of Lancaster.

Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.
Pierce signed a 3 year $27M contract with Minnesota.

Ho-ly crap. hahahahahahaha. Would YOU pay THAT for Lancaster? No thanks.

VALUE. - I appreciate the hell out of that with Brian Gutekunst in charge as GM of our Packers.

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RCPackerFan's picture

July 06, 2020 at 06:53 am

Before last year I thought it was imperative that they bring back Pettine. At the end of last year I questioned whether or not they would bring him back.

I like Pettine but I really thought there was a chance he wouldn't be back. The defense had one of the best Duo's at OLB. They have one of the best interior DL in the league. They have a pair of very good CB's. They had a solid ILB and other solid players. They should have been better then what they were. They were gashed by the run a lot in the year.

One of the biggest issues with Pettine was that he was slow to react to what was happening on the field. A lot of times it would take until half time for him to really adjust to what is going on in the game. Slow reactions in this league can be the difference in winning or losing games.

One of my biggest questions for Pettine is why haven't the higher draft picks been on the field more. Gary, Jackson, Burks. As well as other players that seemed to play well when they were on the field such as Keke. I get that Burks got hurt. So that is a part of it for him. Jackson had gotten hurt as well. But when Jackson got on the field he looked like he could play. Gary flashed a lot of skills and potential. I get that he had the Smiths in front of him, but was Fackrell that much better then him? I didn't see it. Keke really flashed the skills. Lancaster was having a down year, so why didn't Keke get on the field more? Against the Niners Keke didn't play at all until the 2nd half, and when he got on the field for the first time, the defense stopped the Niners. I remember asking why he wasn't on the field sooner. If nothing else he should have been on the field rotating to keep the other DL fresh and healthy.

After Greene got hurt he should have revamped the defense to play without him. They didn't have another player like Greene that could cover as well as be physical in the box against the run. But Pettine basically tried to plug and play with someone else and it never really worked. The defense suffered the rest of the year and against the physical running teams, they really struggled.

I thought there were a lot of reasons why they maybe wouldn't have brought Pettine back. That being said, especially during this damn pandemic thing, I'm really glad that they did bring him back. Trying to learn a new defense under this situation, would have been very hard. Hopefully Pettine will adapt to the players he has more this year. Hopefully he can find ways to use the talent he has. There are a lot talented players on this roster. Now is the time to start using them the right way and getting our defense back into the top 10 in the league!

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Bure9620's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:46 am

Jackson was beat out cleanly by Chandon Sullivan and Burks has a difficult time getting off blocks or he did. Gary was playing behind one of the most disruptive pass rushers in the game in Z. He will get on the field more this season, he just needs more opportunity. He was playing well with the opportunities he had late last year.

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Coldworld's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:27 am

Jackson thus far is on Gute. That’s not a coaching thing, simply got beaten out by Sullivan as Bure said and Redmond. Injury did not help but I’m glad they played the better players not higher pick. He is a player who needs to grab a role fast.

Gary was a pick for the future that they made clear needed to learn some additional roles and had the Smiths in front of him and wasn’t going to take on the Fackrell role.

Burks can’t stay healthy enough. Even when he has played he has been hampered. He is essentially a rookie in his 3rd year, if he earns a roster spot, which is far from certain.

One can blame Pettine for the type of player he wanted but it’s not really credible to blame him for the lack of playing time for any of these three last year.

All drafts have busts. Two possible candidates are Jackson and a Burks. I’m glad there were better players to take their expected roles. Credit Gute for finding Sullivan and Redmond. A prime example of the advantages of a more diverse talent acquisition approach. Now it’s up to Jackson and Burks to prove they are better. Only then should Pettine play them.

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mamasboy's picture

July 06, 2020 at 05:38 pm

Why did Fackrell get more snaps than he did?

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greengold's picture

July 07, 2020 at 10:58 am

Quite honestly, I thought it was Blake Martinez who was slow to react, not Pettine. Granted, Pettine stuck with a severely underperforming Martinez much longer than I would have hoped, but, Blake was late to the party far too often, racking up tackles on the stat sheet after the play was already won by the opposition.

Gary was in pure development mode behind the Smith Bros. and what a luxury that was for him. Jackson was hurt with the foot injury in camp, and he never really got his wheels back. Burks seems like a lost child.

I think Gary is going to be a rock star for this Packers defense in 2020 and beyond. Add in the signing of Christian Kirksey and the drafting of Kamal Martin, and I feel very confident this D will be greatly improved.

Both Kirksey and Martin have great combinations of size and speed, with acumen to instinctively stop both run and pass. Plus, both make a ton of hustle plays, the INTs, FFs, FRs and PDs that can save and win games.

- Those qualities were completely absent last season with Blake Martin at ILB. Can't have that at such an important position on your D.

Losing Raven Greene really hurt Pettine's D last year as well.

Added competition at DL with Keke's development and the Willis & Hester signings, along with some dynamic Safety prospects via draft/UDFA, and there's big potential for improvement in 2020. I like what I see on paper. Another guy at Safety I'm totally stoked for is the UDFA signing Marc-Antoine Dequoy. I think he'll be a beast as a 3rd Safety in Pettine's D. SUPER dynamic player at 6-3 198 4.35... with ALL the range, speed, size and ball skills you could ask for at the position. I'm WAY more confident that this defense will be top tier than I was last year and believe it will surprise many. We'll see.

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Turophile's picture

July 06, 2020 at 07:42 am

I do still like Pettine as the DC.

I loved his hire at the time and although there were problems last year, I'm not giving up on him yet. He is a super-smart guy, but no matter how smart you are, you can make mistakes. My main concern is similar to that of RCPackerFan (see comment above, that I gave a 'like' to), that he needs to work more on tactics than on strategy, ie more moment-to-moment adjustments, in-game.

I'm hoping that the time he has had since last season has been used to try and work out some ways to be better this year. La Fleur had enough confidence in him to keep him on, and so do I. Given how long Ted and McCarthy stuck with Dom Capers, Pettine hasn't been here very long at all.

If the defense makes some strides forward this season, I think he is a lock to stay - but if the defense is bad, it would be likely that La Fleur lets him go at the end of 2020. 16th or better in total defense would be a satisfactory result for this year (though we would all hope that isn't the final improvement), but more specifically, we need to be better stopping the run against San Fran, who we play again this year.

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Handsback's picture

July 06, 2020 at 07:59 am

I doubt I will ever re-watch that 49ers game from last year. Maybe I should just to see what changes Pettine tried to implement during the game to slow down that running game. My eyes still burn seeing the Pack's Dline being pushed back 2-3 yards and runners going yards before being touched.
My point is Pettine's a good defensive coach, but....you can't coach around poor play which is what I saw against the 49ers.

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Stroh's picture

July 06, 2020 at 12:43 pm

The DL wasn't getting pushed back 2 yds. The front 7 wasn't playing w/ good gap discipline. There is a very big difference. Stopping the run for Pettine's D is on the front 7 all playing w/ gap discipline and last year that didn't happen enough. Its not a matter or bigger DL its a matter or each front 7 player not losing or giving up his gap. That was partly be design to allow the front 7 to attack the QB. If they maintain better discipline in gaps they can stop the run. The problem is that will result in getting less pressure on the QB. Which do you want? You have to play one way or the other. You don't get both. Either give up some run yds or you give up on some pressure on the QB. Make up your mind.

If you play and are more conscious of gaps its slows you getting to the QB.

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jannes bjornson's picture

July 07, 2020 at 12:15 am

Keke should have been starting that Game. That is on Pettine. THe DC has to put the best performers out there based upon their contibution on the field. Their D line had no penetration. They were moved about like toy soldiers. Some times you have to counter the flow and try to disrupt. The Players were lost, slow to the spot and uninspired.

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Stroh's picture

July 07, 2020 at 11:59 am

I certainly don't know, and neither can you that Keke was better than anyone on the DL, especially as a rookie. For all we know he didn't study the playbook and didn't know where to go or what to do. Keke will get his chance in training camp to show if he deserves more playing time this upcoming year. Its not like he wasn't playing because there was a 1st rd pick ahead of him that Keke outplayed but they had to let the 1st rd pick play. Clearly Pettine and the DL coach didn't think Keke was better.

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murf7777's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:04 am

He made progress last year taking the points allowed from 25 to 20.7. It’s year three for Pettine, IMO he needs to get this D to top 10, preferably in the top 5 or its time to move on. He has the players, now coach them up. Injuries or not, no excuses, just get the job done.

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Coldworld's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:29 am

A deeper linebacker/hybrid pool would help. Obviously more so if better. Ridiculous lack of depth last year.

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dobber's picture

July 06, 2020 at 02:39 pm

Health and consistency...a must at any position.

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Oppy's picture

July 06, 2020 at 07:23 pm

Depth is definitely an issue at DL and ILB.

We have good depth at OLB, Corner, and Safety (health providing.)

We desperately need options at ILB, and Kenny Clark can not be playing 83.5% of the defensive snaps next season. Need to find someone on the line to step up and help spell the big guy from time to time.

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MemphoMike's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:12 am

I'd call moving from #22 to #18 rank D as progress, but that (those two) 9er games are simply too hard to ignore. Shannahan knew exactly how to exploit our weakest link on D and they ran all over us. That game wasn't a fluke...Kenny Clark can't play 85% of snaps for the season again, he needs help....

The hiring of Jerry Gray this off season should be a clear message that if Coach P struggles this year, they are prepared to make a change. Gray's hiring is a huge win for the Packers, especially the DBs, but his presence/voice in the D room is going to make an immediate impact on this unit. I love this move by Gute.....Gray's hiring is way more than a solid backup plan.

Barring any FA signings for our DL, Kingsley's ascension at the end of last year will likely place him next to Clark as a starter. If he can continue his productivity from last season, it will make Coach P's life much easier and should elevate this D where it needs the most help.

It will also be interesting to see if Coach P gets creative in using Gary and Smith Bros on the DL. All three will be in their second year in his system, which should allow Coach to open things up more with these guys. If they could productively unleash Gary and Smith Bros, it could be a nightmare for opposing teams. Finally, if they can somehow get Adams to produce, it would significantly add some much needed athletic depth to the DL. However, at this point, Adams (and possibly Burks) could find themselves as potential training camp cuts.

Whatever the case, this should be very interesting to watch how it all comes together this year!

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Stroh's picture

July 06, 2020 at 12:53 pm

Gutey didn't hire Gray. LaFleur did. LaFleur hires the asst coaches, Gutey hires the presonnel staff. This is pretty basic stuff guys.

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MemphoMike's picture

July 07, 2020 at 02:44 pm

Nice job making sure you step in to correct the trivial, Stroh. Aside from your invaluable input on the back end administrative side of things, the point is that the hiring of Gray was not only a strong one (by MLF, of course) but could be a sign of things to come if Coach P falters.....

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jannes bjornson's picture

July 07, 2020 at 12:19 am

Aranda would have been a better choice, but he is on the ascent with HC gig at Baylor. He would only come to the NFL as a Head Coach. Just a Solid guy, also Wilcox.

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mrtundra's picture

July 06, 2020 at 08:11 am

Stopping the run is a must for the Packers, if they want to go far in the playoffs. Doing so, means Keke, Adams, Gary and Lowry all have to step up their games. Of those four, I think Keke, Gary and Lowry can do the most to stop the run game. Keke and Gary need more time on the field if they are to get "better" at their jobs. Who is in charge of getting those guys more playing time? Adams is a puzzle. I hope he gets his head on straight and plays up to his potential. Then, maybe, be have a shot of advancing,in the playoffs.

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murf7777's picture

July 06, 2020 at 12:00 pm

Stopping the run is also on the Smith brothers as they are responsible to set the edge so RB’s don’t get around the corner and to push them inside so the LB’s and/or DL make the tackle preferably at the LOS. They did a terrible job against the niners and readily admitted it. That is coaching and players ability. I think they have the players, they just need to be coached up and do their job.

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Stroh's picture

July 06, 2020 at 12:59 pm

Stopping the run is on the entire front 7. They each have a gap they are responsible for. Each front 7 player has to maintain his gap. Last year we got a lot of pressure on the QB precisely because they rushed the QB almost w/o regard for gap discipline. If you increase gap discipline it'll result in less pressure on the QB. Pick your poison.

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 06, 2020 at 01:41 pm

This is Pettine’s 3rd year as D.C., I am expecting big things from his group this season.

~year 1 he was working with bad safeties and Dix was traded mid-season.
~he had Clay Mathews (who was a shell of his former self)
~Burks got hurt early
~Alexander and Jackson were rookies
~Clark was only in his 2nd season

~year 2 Pettine had an influx of talent with the Smiths and Amos, Alexander in his 2nd year and Clark in year 3.
~Burks again got hurt along with Raven Green
~Savage & Gary were rookies
~The Packers defense clearly improved in many areas and were opportunistic with turnovers, sacks and red zone defense as well as improving 4 spots.

~Building a top defense takes years, it took Fangio 3 years with the Bears, the Packers are headed in the right direction. If Pettine is let go prematurely then they have to start over again and that could take another 3 years, stay the course!

~year 3 of Mike Pettine’s defense is upon us soon (hopefully) and I am predicting a top ten defense!

That is all

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murf7777's picture

July 06, 2020 at 12:02 pm

Agree about coaching consistency, but how will you feel about Pettine if he still has an average D?

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 06, 2020 at 01:39 pm

Statistics Can be misleading sometimes, if Pettine‘s defense can get off the field on third down and still be a top 10 Red zone defense I will be happy.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

July 06, 2020 at 09:34 am

Why are people penalizing Pettine for having 2 top OLBers? The Smiths both had career years in GB. Shouldn't Pettine get credit for that rather than chastised? Brandon's "article" hangs it's hat on not having a top 10 overall defense.

Pettine had our defense post elite pressures, turnovers, amd red zone defense numbers. I think a better look at improvement and decline would have made for a decent article. Instead we barely got speculation. I'm excited to see what Pettine can do year 3 but as others have said DL is a big ?

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PatrickGB's picture

July 06, 2020 at 10:27 am

Prior to Pettine and to my (uneducated eye) most of the teams we have faced have often beaten us with the pass. When he arrived his goal was to end that. He has done well with that. And prior to the niners games the team has held up well against other teams that tried to run on us. Unfortunately we no longer have a lot of big bodies inside to help out Clark so the niners knew our weakness. I don’t blame Pettine’s defense as much as I blame the lack of run stoppers.

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gkarl's picture

July 06, 2020 at 11:03 am

I like Pettine as DC, hes starting to get some experienced talent to work within his scheme and I think we'll see more improvement for the defense TY. That being said I think the DL needs more help from the players other than Clark, we just couldn't hold up against the run consistently. The OLB need to contribute more to help with the run also. Rush the QB yes, but not to the total detriment of stopping the run, we need a more balance D to compete with the elite teams in the NFL.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

July 06, 2020 at 11:32 am

It's hard to believe any DC can give up 285 yards on the ground and keep their job. I think two things bought Pettine another year.

1. Complete ownership of this issue by him, no excuses.
2. The offense sucked for the first 25 minutes and could not hold onto the football which played right into the hands of the 49ers ball control plan.

If that happens again on Nov 5 Pettine will be gone.

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 06, 2020 at 01:48 pm

Yes they had a bad game against the 49ers, it happens

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 06, 2020 at 01:50 pm

Sometimes you just get outplayed by a better team, doesn't mean everyone should just be fired.
They had a pretty damn good season 14 & 4. I'll take that

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PhantomII's picture

July 06, 2020 at 09:29 pm

2 bad games and that can't happen......this year.

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GLM's picture

July 06, 2020 at 07:50 pm

I wanted a plugger in FA, or the draft. we didn't get one. That doesn't mean all is lost. It really does tie into the team's dedication to their own program and players. That has to work, though. They signed Lowry to an extension, which was a bit of a surprise, so they must see some long-term potential. Now, he needs to prove that investment right.

Adams is probably gone... big surprise if he makes the team, but I hope he hasn't given up on his career.

Keke bulked up in college, and actually performed well at a heavier weight. We'll see where he comes into camp.

Lancaster is a run defender. With some progression there, he could be a solid contributor.

Gary is big enough to swing inside on passing downs.

Lots of potential here... they just need to make it happen...

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PhantomII's picture

July 06, 2020 at 09:25 pm

The worst matchup for the Packers is ironically what they are trying to be. A heavy run team with play action passing. The SF 49ers. Gute still does not have a starting level DT next to K. Clark, who is double teamed constantly. Pettine is very slow to react to changes on the field as mentioned. Maybe Keke ends up being the starter. Then things improve a lot. Pettine has not had the best talent on the DL to work with. The 2 Smiths did a great job on passing teams creating pressure. Now they need to do better setting the edge for run plays.
We also picked up a new DB coach who was also a DC. That is a big plus. I think our secondary gets much better. If we stay relatively injury free and a few DL players get better I think we move up from 18 to top 10 "D".

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 07, 2020 at 04:54 am

I am not sold on the notion that LaFleur brought back Pettine. I think it was Murphy. I remember LaFleur's initial non-committal response to a question about Pettine's future, which changed within a day or so.

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Rudedawg67's picture

July 08, 2020 at 01:07 pm

Defensively the Packers need to make improvements in a much bigger way or they should consider changing defensive coordinators next year. They haven’t improved any since the 2017 season although because of more sacks last season the appearence is that they did. If you compare the 2019 stats against the 2018 stats you can really see there is no improvement. Also if you remember the 2017 season, Rodgers was out most of the year and the inept offense is what caused the defensive stats to look worse than what they really were.

2019 - Rushing Yards 1921 / Passing Yards 3721/ First Downs 310
2018 - Rushing Yards 1918/ Passing Yards 3752/ First Downs 331

2019- Points per game 19.6
2018- Points per game 19

As a matter of fact the most improved defensive stat might be that the offense held onto the ball about three minutes more in 2019 than in 2018.

Just don’t do a Capers and hold on to a DC for 10+ years if things aren’t improving.

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Lphill's picture

July 09, 2020 at 03:43 pm

I think he should have been gone after that embarrassment in the championship game and all those rushing yards given up.

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