It Wasn’t Pretty, but the Mission Was Accomplished
By Carter Semb

“Whatever it takes. We’ve got to find a way to go and get a win,” Jordan Love said after the game. And that’s exactly what the Packers did.
Everyone can exhale. The Packers won. It wasn’t pretty or smooth, but every win counts the same. The Green Bay Packers (6-3-1) beat the New York Giants (2-9) on Sunday afternoon, 27-20. It was a game filled with self-inflicted mistakes and injuries, but the Packers still found a way to come home with a victory. No one on offense or defense could consistently catch the ball; sometimes it felt like the Packers dropped as many balls as they caught. Not to mention, the Packers’ medical staff was plenty busy. It took everybody - literally everybody - to help win that ball game.
The Packers’ offense managed to score 27 points, despite losing multiple key players to injury. One big reason why is that Jordan Love was superb all game. Despite all of the self-inflicted wounds, Love kept swinging play after play, drive after drive. He had to leave the game for a short time due to a shoulder injury, but Malik Willis came in, and the offense didn’t skip a beat. Once Love was able to return, he picked up right where he left off. Christian Watson finished the day with two touchdown catches. The offense as a whole rushed for 128 yards (5.6 yards per carry), despite not having Josh Jacobs in the second half. Better yet, the offense went 7-for-11 on third downs and 4-for-4 in the red zone. The offense didn’t make life easy on themselves, but they still managed to put together a solid day.
Game balls 👀 pic.twitter.com/7nYXG7r4HZ
— Green Bay Packers (@packers) November 17, 2025
After holding the Eagles offense to just ten points on Monday night, the Packers’ defense had its struggles against New York. The Giants controlled the time of possession throughout the game, 35:56 to just 24:04. New York had more first downs (22), total yards (336), rushing yards (142), and passing yards (194), but they also ran 18 more plays. The Jameis Winston-led Giants offense was 7-14 on third down and 3-4 on fourth down. The one difference in the game was that the Packers were able to force two turnovers - an interception by Evan Williams and a fumble forced by Micah Parsons. The Packers embodied the “bend, but don’t break” philosophy. The Giants moved the ball up and down the field, even though they were without their starting quarterback, top running back, and best two wide receivers. But come crunch time, Green Bay's defense came away with two big plays that sealed the victory.
After the game, Jordan Love stated, “It’s never going to be pretty. It’s the NFL. You’ve got to find ways to go and win these games.” That statement accurately depicts how the Packers won Sunday's game. The Packers made plenty of mistakes. They made life hard on themselves. But on a short week, traveling east, and facing a team with nothing to lose, they found a way to get a win. Should the Packers be satisfied? Absolutely not. There is still plenty to clean up. That said, this was a game the Packers had to win, and they accomplished that mission. “Bottom line is we overcame a lot of adversity and found a way,” Matt LaFleur said. “And that’s sometimes what it takes in this league.”
The MetLife Medical Tent Saw Plenty of Action
The Packers went into Sunday’s contest as the healthier team, but that wasn't the case by the end. The most notable injury of the day was Josh Jacobs (knee). He left the game in the first half but was unable to return. LaFleur didn’t have any updates on Jacobs’ status after the game, but offered more on Monday. "We'll see where he's at. It's a contusion. It's more or less trying to get the swelling down. Unfortunately, that's a pretty hard surface over there, and that's a byproduct of that." Jacobs underwent additional tests earlier today, and all signs showed the knee is generally stable and intact. Jacobs could miss the Week 12 game against Minnesota, but it shouldn't be a long-term issue.
As we reported last night, Josh Jacobs’ knee injury is not major.
Tests today backed that up, a source confirmed. No structural damage and is considered week to week. https://t.co/J3IOp75WFr
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) November 17, 2025
There was also a point during the game where Jordan Love (shoulder) had to leave after taking a hard hit directly to his shoulder. He was signaled off by an official and had to go to the blue medical tent, but eventually had to go to the locker room. Love was able to return after getting evaluated and some treatment. "It happened on the hit. I lowered my shoulder, and he gave me a good pop. I felt it right away," Love said after the game. "It was tough. I went in and got evaluated. Figured it was good enough to come back, so came back in. It's not fun. It's a small injury. We'll reevaluate when we get back, look at it, see what's going on, but it's not fun." The fact that Love was able to return should indicate that it won't be a major issue. The hope is that it's not an injury that lingers. The hit did serve as a good lesson for Love. He shared, "I wish I would have just went out of bounds or tried to slide right there.”
Wide receivers Romeo Doubs and Matthew Golden also got banged up at different times on Sunday. They both had to leave the game for a few plays, but they ended up returning. It’s unclear what exactly Doubs' injury was yesterday, but Doubs suffered an injury in last week's game against Philadelphia. Golden had been dealing with a shoulder injury that forced him to miss the Philadelphia game, and after a deep incompletion that drew pass interference, it appeared Golden was shaken up with the same shoulder issue. Right tackle Zach Tom gingerly walked off the field at one point as well. He appeared to have aggravated the back injury that he had been dealing with throughout the week, but he was able to return a few plays later.
On the defensive side of the ball, the Packers lost Quay Walker due to a stinger. While he doesn’t believe it should take him long to recover, he doesn't believe it should be a long-term issue. He shared it was an “intense discomfort” after delivering a hit, but it shouldn’t be a long-term injury. Arron Mosby was also knocked out of the game due to what looked like a shoulder/stinger injury, but he was able to return. Keisean Nixon also appeared to get banged up, but never left the game to receive any medical attention.
#Packers linebacker Quay Walker said he suffered a stinger in his shoulder and should recover quickly. He said he was in intense discomfort after the hit he delivered but was confident there was nothing long-term about his injury.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 16, 2025
Love Gets by With a (Very) Little Help From His Friends
“He played his a– off,” Xavier McKinney said after the game. He’s right. The box score won’t tell the whole story, but Jordan Love played one of the most impressive games of his career. Love was frequently navigating the pocket to buy time and throwing the ball with tremendous accuracy. He finished the day 13/24 for 174 yards, two touchdowns, and a 105.2 passer rating.
The rest of the team didn’t do Love any favors. The Packers dropped 11 balls total - seven by the offense, four by the defense. Offensively, Doubs, Fitzpatrick, Musgrave, Wicks, and Watson all recorded drops. Drops happen from time to time, but seven? It’s also the same issue that plagued the Packers throughout last season. Doubs, who is usually sure-handed, was anything but and had three of the drops. Luke Musgrave was even less sure-handed, dropping one and fumbling another. Love was frequently putting the ball is a prime spot to be caught, but his “pass-catchers” repeatedly let him down.
strong hands
— Ross Uglem (@RossUglem) November 2, 2025
The Packers’ inability to catch the ball was also evident on defense. Once Jameis Winston was named the starter early last week, it was a given that the Packers’ defense would have opportunities for interceptions. Winston gave them five total opportunities - the Packers dropped four of them. Carrington Valentine, Javon Bullard, and Keisean Nixon all dropped their opportunities. The scoreboard might not have been so close throughout the game had the Packers come away with any of those opportunities.
Love remained calm, cool, and collected throughout the game, despite not getting much help from his teammates. “It’s a team sport. It takes everybody out there making plays. You’ve just got to stay confident in these guys,” Love shared after the game. “I always stay confident in my guys that we’ll find ways to make the next play. Like I said, it’s not going to be perfect. You want to go out there and make every play. Sometimes it doesn’t go right. Sometimes I’ll throw an interception and have a turnover, and I’ve got to have that same mindset to be able to flush it, move on, and the opportunities are going to keep coming, so you’ve got to make that next one.”
Despite all of the drops, the Packers made some really tough catches when it mattered the most. Both of Watson’s touchdowns were incredibly tough, contested catches. Savion Williams came down with a big-time catch on third down that led to the go-ahead touchdown. And to ice the game, Evan Williams made an athletic grab in the end zone to finally intercept Jameis Winston. Love continued to put his teammates in advantageous situations, and they eventually came through for him.
With Jordan Love’s ball placement today, I for one am ecstatic about what’s to come with this group; especially with Reed returning, and an increased use of Golden!
Folks, he was throwing dots into swirling winds… #9 wasn’t bad either… But I still don’t think y‘all have yet…
— Tazim Wajid Wajed (@NFLHitman33) November 16, 2025
Several Notable Players Were MIA
It was Kingsley Enagbare, not Rashan Gary, who operated as the Packers' second edge rusher on Sunday. Gary played fewer snaps (39) than Enagbare (40) for the first time this season. Neither player was particularly productive. Gary generated two pressures and two tackles. Many people hoped that Rashan Gary would benefit from the addition of Micah Parsons. Parsons draws most of the attention from opposing offenses, allowing Gary and the other defensive linemen to have more favorable matchups. That was the case against the Giants. Parsons was seeing a lot of double- and triple-teams, giving Gary plenty of one-on-one pass rush opportunities. Gary was unable to take advantage.
Rashan Gary's production isn't matching his contract. He has 7.5 sacks on the season, but only 33 pressures, which would rank 35th amongst all NFL pass rushers. His win percentage is only 11.4%. Gary's contract accounts for $25.78 million in cap space this season and another $28.02 million next season. Not only is Gary lacking consistent production, but now he's seeing fewer snaps than some of his counterparts. Green Bay is going to have to take a long, hard look at Gary's contract in the offseason if things don't turn around soon.
Enagbare out-snapping Gary is a problem. If Rashan isn’t in good enough shape, that’s a problem. If he’s hurt, that’s also a problem.
Parsons played 45% of snaps 4 minutes after being traded, weighs 30 fewer pounds and had a back injury. pic.twitter.com/TFqmRid2n4
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) November 17, 2025
The other notable player who was missing for much of the day was Luke Musgrave. When Tucker Kraft went down with a season-ending knee injury, it was expected that Musgrave would be the next man up. That hasn't been the case. In two games as the starting tight end, Musgrave has only caught four passes for 22 yards. No one expected him to fill the shoes of Tucker Kraft, but it was hard to envision him being this bad.
Musgrave's performance on Sunday was discouraging, to say the least. He was targeted twice, but dropped one pass and fumbled the other. This led to a decrease in snaps. He played only 19 snaps on Sunday, but just two in the second half. The Packers chose to roll with John FitzPatrick (35) and Josh Whyle (20) over Musgrave down the stretch.
Another Chapter in the Kicking Saga
Sunday served as another chapter in the Packers’ never-ending kicking conundrum. The Packers were forced to go with Lukas Havrisik as the kicker after Brandon McManus was added to the injury report on Saturday after experiencing tightness in his quad. Havrisik, who hadn’t missed a kick yet as a Packer, went 1-3 on his extra point attempts.
The weather conditions weren’t ideal for kickers. The wind was blowing hard in every direction. Havrisik had his share of struggles by badly missing two of his kicks. Giants kicker Younghoe Koo also missed an extra point, proving it wasn’t just a Green Bay issue. After the game, LaFleur said, “I still don’t know which way the wind was blowing. It was all over the place.”
Havrisik struggled, without a doubt. His two missed kicks weren’t even close. The one kick that he converted was still shaky. Is it all Havrisik’s fault? That’s hard to say. The wind was a huge wild card and impossible to gauge. Long snapper Matt Orzech was inconsistent with his snaps all day. Daniel Whelan spun one of the holds so the laces were facing Havrisik, forcing him to kick to the laces. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but at the end of the day, extra points need to be converted.
Wind is legit nuts here today. https://t.co/92Yn9t7Uc2
— Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) November 16, 2025
Havrisik’s performance just further complicates and already murky kicker situation. McManus had missed a kick in seven out of his last eight games, but the Packers remained committed to the 34-year-old veteran. As of Thursday, he was supposedly healthy again, and the Packers were planning for McManus to be their kicker moving forward. “Definitely healthy now,” McManus said on Thursday. “I was healthy enough to play, and it was our decision from the medical, how I was feeling at practice, and I look forward to performing the way I know how to.”
McManus doesn’t usually kick on consecutive days. Since the Packers played on Monday night, they practiced on a shortened week. That led to McManus kicking on both Thursday and Friday. The Packers had removed him from the injury report after practice on Friday, indicating that he was good to go. When McManus showed up on Saturday, he reported some quad discomfort, forcing the Packers to pivot to Havrisik.
It’s impossible to predict who the kicker will be next weekend. Had Havrisik gone out and made all of his kicks without any issues, the Packers may have let McManus have extra time to heal his quad, but Havrisik’s struggles in New York may force the Packers to rush McManus back sooner rather than later. Either way, this kicking conundrum is getting a little old.
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Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb.
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Comments (11)
Alberta_Packer
November 17, 2025 at 03:12 pm
Looming epitaph for the Packers season - "It Wasn't Pretty."
Bitternotsour
November 17, 2025 at 04:33 pm
... but the Lombardi is home where it belongs
LLCHESTY
November 17, 2025 at 08:29 pm
There nothing I've seen in the last two months that points in that direction. But hey, they definitely won the 1st two weeks of the season.
Snap the ball
November 17, 2025 at 04:35 pm
Giants are not that bad of a team. It’s hard to win in New York for whatever reason.
Got the job done. Time to win division games .
Offensive needs to control the ball and time.
When Lloyd back ?
TOMMY'63
November 17, 2025 at 04:53 pm
Don't know mate! He hasn't played in two years now! He suffered some very grave injuries, the media and fc never tell the truth. Like with lvn a foot injury, no? He missed 5 matches now,probably fractured his foot, who the fuck knows what injuries the players truly have
NitschkeFromTheGrave
November 17, 2025 at 04:43 pm
I can't remember the end of a game on a win, and it didn't feel like a win. It still doesn't.
LLCHESTY
November 17, 2025 at 08:30 pm
?? There's been three of those this season.
Vachio
November 17, 2025 at 07:09 pm
In other news...both Wooden and Brooks had more snaps than Wyatt. That seems...odd.
Snap the ball
November 17, 2025 at 08:27 pm
I’m not worried about Gary. Down the stretch when it matters he will get home.
When they pass quick hard to get home.
The Vikings will psss quick this week.
Would like to see the hands go up a bit more.
The giants game not surprising the result.
We beat the chiefs a few years back on Sunday or Monday night then played the giants and Danny Devito beat us.
On to the Vikings. Not the lions. The Vikings first.
The Vikings will want to start fast like last year.
Need good Tackling and linebacker play
mrtundra
November 18, 2025 at 08:42 am
The vikings always play us tough, so there is no reason, whatsoever, to help them out, by shooting ourselves in the foot. Let's make this a get right game for all phases --Offense, Defense and STs! Stop their run game, cover their receivers and put pressure on their QB. Give the Lambeau grounds crew some work by having them remove the purple smears, postgame, from the turf! GO PACK, GO!!!
mjbrogno
November 18, 2025 at 09:09 am
MLF coaching future is now. Players play and Coaches coach. This stretch run will decide is fate.